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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 07:50:35 2017 No.96895430 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>96900329 >>96902298 >>96904296 >>96906799 >>96915484

>what do you care about some leggy dame in nylons
>or have I answered my own question?
Why is Zatanna so great yet so underrated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 07:51:32 No.96895454 Report

Quoted By: >>96896853 >>96896854 >>96906711 >>96925414 >>96928461

It feels like she's one good pop culture moment away from breaking out into normalfag awareness. I think she's got Harley Quinn potential, it's just that nobody's tapped it yet.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:00:57 No.96896755 Report

Quoted By: >>96896948

Oh shut up, Paul Dini (You are right though).

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:07:34 No.96896853 Report

Quoted By: >>96896864 >>96906711 >>96919533

>>96895454
She needs a tv series that's all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:07:38 No.96896854 Report

Quoted By: >>96896864 >>96896927 >>96917170 >>96920784 >>96925277

>>96895454
Harley Quinn is only as big as she is right now because she resonates perfectly with the trashy tumblr thot "spank me daddy" crowd, and the remnants of the pop punk crowd.

Zatanna is just a sexy magician girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:08:53 No.96896864 Report

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>>96896853
wrong

see
>>96896854

She needs to become super trashy, quirky and compatible with the latest soundcloud hiphop trends first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:15:18 No.96896927 Report

Quoted By: >>96896949

>>96896854
Yeah but that wasn't even Harley's original character. If they wanted to make Zatanna popular with certain crowds, I think they could. I wouldn't necessarily want them to, but they could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:17:32 No.96896948 Report

Quoted By: >>96896963

>>96896755
>giant bimbo tits
shit like this is why there's so little good Zatanna art

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:17:32 No.96896949 Report

Quoted By: >>96897000

>>96896927
And as I said, it would take a trashy redesign for that to occur

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:19:54 No.96896963 Report

Quoted By: >>96898967 >>96902322

>>96896948
Do tits trigger you?

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 09:23:55 No.96897000 Report

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>>96896949
There we go.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 13:05:00 No.96898967 Report

Quoted By: >>96900666 >>96902522

>>96896963
don't bimboify Zatanna

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 14:47:40 No.96900329 Report

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>>96895430
Because magicians are pure shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 14:53:38 No.96900407 Report

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I'd like to put my white rabbit into her magic hat if you know what I mean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 15:11:51 No.96900666 Report

Quoted By: >>96928147

>>96898967
But she does have big boobs, its not bimbofying her, its accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 16:48:56 No.96902298 Report

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>>96895430

She essentially going to co-lead her own magic based comic book. Plus she features in DC Super Hero Girls comics, which is making a huge inroad into young girls. The new comic should help and if WB ever gets their thumbs out of their asses and green lies a proper Dark Universe film, she should also co-lead that.

How much more do you want their to be of a Zatanna push?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 16:50:02 No.96902322 Report

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>>96896963
I would love to make her strip naked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 16:59:26 No.96902522 Report

Quoted By: >>96903446

>>96898967
Zatanna canonically has a big rack though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 17:01:15 No.96902565 Report

Quoted By: >>96912578

She probably doesn't wear panties with her costume.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 17:45:02 No.96903446 Report

Quoted By: >>96905349

>>96902522
citation needed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 18:23:35 No.96904296 Report

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>>96895430
Overpowered Constantine Fuck toy.
Robin tier irrelevant.
Nice legs thou.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 19:04:54 No.96905349 Report

Quoted By: >>96905394 >>96910708 >>96911690

>>96903446
Did you manage to miss her solo series?

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 19:06:32 No.96905394 Report

Quoted By: >>96905453

>>96905349

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 19:08:19 No.96905453 Report

Quoted By: >>96905627

>>96905394
I would love to help her relax with sex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 19:15:56 No.96905627 Report

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>>96905453
you would not survive it
and if you dissapoint her in bed, you can kiss your dick goodbye

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 19:22:44 No.96905797 Report

Quoted By: >>96917192 >>96920202 >>96924371

I think she has a very deep fundamental problem in that her powers are hard to comprehend on screen. You can see the effects, but thinking through what she just said backwards is pretty much exclusive to a written medium

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 20:06:07 No.96906711 Report

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>>96895454
>>96896853
She needs an iconic comic book run and a tv show or movie.

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 20:10:24 No.96906799 Report

Quoted By: >>96907083

>>96895430
I kind of want someone other then Dini to write some stories with her.
I feel like he never really does as much as he could with the magic angle. Zatanna stories shouldn't always be very straightforward fight the bad guy stories. Her magic can work in different ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 20:24:22 No.96907083 Report

Quoted By: >>96907370

>>96906799
Dini isn't really a good Zatanna writer. His work with her is actually generally REALLY boring. I feel like a Zatanna book should be batshit insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 20:37:24 No.96907370 Report

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>>96907083
No, Dini can write her but like all capeshit he has to let her be written by people with other ideas. Dini makes her a great and fun person but in Hellblazers she can swear and be mean. Zee can have different interpretations just like all other cd and marvel characters. Her popularity is growing as she becomes both more kid friendly like JLA and Adult like Bendis' book

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 21:24:39 No.96908505 Report

Quoted By: >>96921079

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Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 21:44:49 No.96908967 Report

Quoted By: >>96912665

Overpowered and overrated. She was only good in B:TAS when she had no powers and was just a simple stage magician.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 23:01:47 No.96910708 Report

Quoted By:

>>96905349
>that
>bimbo big
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Nov 2017 23:43:40 No.96911690 Report

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>>96905349
I just wanted to get you to post pics of her with giant cans.
Please post more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 00:20:27 No.96912578 Report

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>>96902565
her costume is panties though

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 00:23:55 No.96912665 Report

Quoted By: >>96920044

>>96908967
>he didn't like JLU Zatanna
It was by far one of the better episodes in no small part due to Zatanna

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 02:18:31 No.96915484 Report

Quoted By: >>96917226 >>96920202 >>96921289

>>96895430

I love Zatanna but am afraid she will forever be associated with part of the extended Bat-cast, nevermind the Constantine stink on her.

Her backwards-talking spells simply do not play anywhere other than word-ballooned comics. That shtick has got to go and just let her be a spellcaster in cartoons and movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 03:24:55 No.96917170 Report

Quoted By: >>96923084

>>96896854
She is a legacy of a character as old as superman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 03:25:23 No.96917182 Report

Quoted By: >>96920044

Zatanna was probably the most over-represented cosplay at SD Comic Con 2017 this year. It really was a little too much and nauseating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 03:25:56 No.96917192 Report

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>>96905797
Yep. That's the big advantage she has in novels and comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 03:27:24 No.96917226 Report

Quoted By: >>96920202

>>96915484
>Her backwards-talking spells simply do not play anywhere other than word-ballooned comics
What about novels?
Honestly maybe she can discard the backwards talk outside of comics though.
But if they ever remove it from comics that are not direct tie ins to other media I will screach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 05:05:13 No.96919533 Report

Quoted By: >>96919592 >>96919786

>>96896853
a cw show of zatanna would suck, but I'm really curious about how much they would fuck up in a fun cringe way or a rage inducing way

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Boco !sCZ24qY6KY Mon 20 Nov 2017 05:07:40 No.96919592 Report

Quoted By: >>96920912 >>96925343

>>96919533

She'd be in high school, never wear her outfit, and I dunno, probably be blonde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 05:17:37 No.96919786 Report

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>>96919533
CW has apparently ordered a pilot for a Doctor 13 series, and I wouldn't be surprised if Zatanna appeared in it as a mentor for Traci

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 05:31:13 No.96920044 Report

Quoted By: >>96920627 >>96920887

>>96912665
I'm still kind of sour that they wasted her on that one episode.

>"Hey, we have this magical chick who can do almost anything aside from full on reality-warping so long as she says it backwards."
>"Alright, let's waste her on this shitty episode romantic comedy episode where Wonder Woman gets turned into a pig."

Seriously, come on.

>>96917182
She was everywhere at MegaCon 2013 iirc. I wish I could get a qt Zatanna-cosplaying gf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 05:38:22 No.96920202 Report

Quoted By:

>>96905797
>>96915484
>>96917226
I always imagined that she'd just say her magical words (that would be backwards) and if the audience had a good ear or were clever enough, they could tell that she'd just be speaking backwards. Or there could be closed captioning/subtitle bonus where you could see that she were speaking backwards.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 05:42:55 No.96920290 Report

Quoted By: >>96920342 >>96920718 >>96921911 >>96923019

I'm worried that if/when Zee gets a movie appearance, they'll butcher her costume because some idiot will call it "problematic". It's not sexist, it's fucking classy. Zatanna without the magician getup just isn't Zatanna. Even worse is if they decide to give her that terrible Nu52 goth attire

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 05:45:45 No.96920342 Report

Quoted By: >>96927329

>>96920290
>low-cut
that's the first step of butchering an outfit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 05:58:30 No.96920627 Report

Quoted By: >>96920887

>>96920044
I wouldn't say they wasted her on that episode, as she featured well in it. What they really wasted was only using her on that episode. Especially as one of the founding members of the original JLA

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:03:26 No.96920718 Report

Quoted By: >>96920740 >>96921637 >>96923110

>>96920290
If it's about being "problematic" then they might give her pants. But given that WW, Harley, and Mera all have similar aesthetic to comics I don't think they'd fuck with the iconic look too much on that basis. They could still fuck it up like with Enchantress, but it would be that kind of artsy shit not because they're worried that she'd be too sexy.

But even Smallville got it right, it's mostly normal clothes. Not hard to adapt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:05:03 No.96920740 Report

Quoted By: >>96927329

>>96920718
>low-cut
>got it right

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:07:10 No.96920784 Report

Quoted By: >>96920827

>>96896854
>trashy tumblr thot "spank me daddy" crowd, and the remnants of the pop punk crowd
Well thank them for existing then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:09:28 No.96920827 Report

Quoted By:

>>96920784
thank them for butchering Harley?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:13:11 No.96920887 Report

Quoted By:

>>96920044

That's Timm for you

>>96920627
>Especially as one of the founding members of the original JLA

Ah, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:14:30 No.96920912 Report

Quoted By: >>96920980 >>96920986

>>96919592
I wouldn't mind it (sans blonde part) if it would be Gotham High style show with all the other cast.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:18:20 No.96920980 Report

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>>96920912
>Gotham High
Why does that sound familiar
>mfw I googled it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:18:37 No.96920986 Report

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>>96920912
She's getting that mini soon where she's going to be young. Wouldn't mind an adaption like that if they needed it to be a school setting.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:25:02 No.96921079 Report

Quoted By: >>96921108

>>96908505
Almost as good as this, but much easier to fap to.
God, why did Mystic U never happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:26:05 No.96921108 Report

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>>96921079
Mystik U is literally happening this month. It's about her as a student instead though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:37:14 No.96921289 Report

Quoted By: >>96923182

>>96915484
It's not impossible to do it visually in other mediums, in the shitty mobile game she has some phrases show up on screen when she does her actions as part of the spell animation.

But even without that people accepted Harry Potter kids shouting nonsense. It's harder to recognize when you only have the audio, but it's still a fine gimmick to me. No point in trashing it.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 06:59:31 No.96921637 Report

Quoted By: >>96921815

>>96920718
I'd settle for this with a top hat. As long as its stage magician, I'm good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 07:10:29 No.96921815 Report

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>>96921637
Not nearly sexy enough. This is the kind of thing Ezra Miller would wear.

Anonymous?

Anonymous? Mon 20 Nov 2017 07:17:58 No.96921911 Report

Quoted By: >>96922018 >>96922268 >>96925414

>>96920290
the part they have a problem with isn't the magician getup, it's the fishnet stockings
can you staight-facedly tell me those aren't sexual?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 07:24:50 No.96922018 Report

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>>96921911
They could just be regular stockings

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 07:41:13 No.96922268 Report

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>>96921911
She's gone with leather pants and fishnet gloves. But I prefer the leggings. Very sexy.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 08:36:40 No.96923019 Report

Quoted By: >>96926088

>>96920290
I still like her Pre-Crisis outfit, myself. Strikes a good balance between sexy and cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 08:40:55 No.96923084 Report

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>>96917170
It's still wierd to think zatara debued in the same issue as supes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 08:43:41 No.96923110 Report

Quoted By: >>96923238

>>96920718
Wait is that why they dressed enchantress like that? They thought it was artsy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 08:48:57 No.96923182 Report

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>>96921289
>people accepted Harry Potter kids shouting nonsense
You raise a valid point.
I guess it comes down to will knowing there is something understandable in there that they can't work out bother people?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 08:54:53 No.96923238 Report

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>>96923110
Doubtful, if anything the real reason is that most of Enchantress' outfits have been lackluster or self-aware on the part of the designer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 11:31:48 No.96924371 Report

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>>96905797
Yeah, all of the most successful characters have clearly defined powers. Zatanna's magic doesn't even have a sense of scale, sometimes it's trivial and sometimes it's completely broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 13:22:38 No.96925277 Report

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>>96896854
Harley is for Stacy and Stacy-wannabes
Zatanna could be for thots and 30 something cunts that think they are classy and "too good for this shit" (i.e. stuck in a shit job or with some shit bf) .
She could be the everywoman element of DCU, has freaking magic powers but still gets nerves over dates "ohh so relatable and real" the bitches would say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 13:28:19 No.96925343 Report

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>>96919592
fuck it, just make her the Gothy girl into magic that goes to the same school as Sabrina

shit you could even risk her being a season antagonist who Sabrina redeems

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 13:32:09 No.96925389 Report

Quoted By: >>96925426 >>96925636 >>96926959

>joke characters that's only a walking pair of tits
how many of these characters does DC have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 13:34:09 No.96925414 Report

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>>96921911
They're only as sexual as the cuture around them thinks they are. What you perceive as sexual is conditioned into you.Same reason why someone 150 years ago may find calves sexual when it's a none thing today. If people were realy concerned, as anglo puritans generally are, dark pantyhose do the job just as well, IMO

>>96895454
She's really popular as a supporting character, but she doesn't have strong anchor like Harley does with Joker. It's hard to introduce her as someone's support and it'd be even harder to give her a solo for no reason. She's definitely popular with the comic book reading fraternity, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 13:35:05 No.96925426 Report

Quoted By:

>>96925389
not enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 13:54:34 No.96925636 Report

Quoted By:

>>96925389
weak bait
kys marveldrone

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 14:37:07 No.96926088 Report

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>>96923019
The way her hair was and the triangle behind her,
It almost looked like Supergirl had triple pigtails.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 15:40:19 No.96926959 Report

Quoted By:

>>96925389
>Marvelfag
>Complaing about joke characters
Dude your entire lineup is a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 16:07:46 No.96927329 Report

Quoted By:

>>96920342
>>96920740
Calm down autismo, it's a necessary compromise if you want to see Zatanna outside of comics. If her outfit is low-cut AND she's wearing fishnets, she will be too sexy for the public and they will reject her. We need to be willing to make this small sacrifice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 16:55:05 No.96928147 Report

Quoted By:

>>96900666
TRIPS OF TRUTH

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 17:01:14 No.96928245 Report

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What's the best Zatanna recc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Nov 2017 17:13:12 No.96928461 Report

Quoted By:

>>96895454
God I hope not.
There are characters in Marvel and DC that have potential but the gamble of turning them into shit or being burdened with a bunch of socio-political shit is too high. Zatanna on tv as a supporting role would "probably" be okay but in the movies holy fuck I can see the crabs in a bucket tearing into the character because of her attire alone.

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