>>96851742Do you really think that you need photo IDs to do tracking and monitoring?
Let's go back to your first example:
>No, they don't. You can literally pile 20 people into a one bedroom apartment, or put on various fake mustaches and claim to be 20 people in a one bedroom apartment, and vote as many times as you want.If you've registered to vote in the US, you'd know that you need to provide an address. That address gets added to the voter registration list. Those lists are monitored. If they see 20 people registered to a single apartment, there's going to be some investigation. Oh, and if you've registered to vote you would also know that you need to provide proof that you live at that address, as well as proof that you're a US citizen who's eligible to vote, so to even get to that point you'd have a lot of forging to do. But hey, if we're going that far, we might as well just forge some IDs as well....
Add to that the fact that the districts that you vote in are actually really small, in my small town of around 10,000 I have to specify which of 16 districts that I live in. It helps the poll workers to find you more quickly, but it's also data that can get pretty granular when you know how many people live in a district vs how many votes came in from it, then compare that with past, average, and expected voter turnout, and it becomes pretty easy to sniff out something fishy.
And that's just the stuff off the top of my head.
That's the actual mechanism stopping people from doing voter fraud. I've seen fake ID's fool bouncers who are basically professional ID checkers. If people are already somehow getting around all the monitoring being done, then a voter ID law is pittance.
So, no, I'm not "completely destroying my own argument." I've gone and explained why because apparently I have nothing better to do. So now I hope you feel free to respond to this or the rest of my "shitpost," though I suspect you can't and won't.