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September 2017 Comic Book Sales Report - Top 10's

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 15:02:36 2017 No.95823950 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>95824033 >>95824061 >>95824193 >>95824275 >>95824456 >>95824577 >>95824727 >>95824766 >>95824810 >>95824999 >>95825165 >>95825292 >>95825301 >>95827820 >>95828034 >>95828325 >>95829529 >>95839014

TOP 10 COMIC BOOKS
> 1. MARVEL LEGACY #1 (MAR)
> 2. DARK NIGHTS: METAL #2 (DC)
> 3. VENOMVERSE #1 (MAR)
> 4. BATMAN #30 (DC)
> 5. BATMAN #31 (DC)
> 6. HARLEY QUINN 25TH-ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL #1 (DC)
> 7. THE WALKING DEAD #171 (MR) (IMA)
> 8. BATMAN: THE RED DEATH #1 (DC)
> 9. BATMAN: THE MURDER MACHINE #1 (DC)
> 10. ACTION COMICS #987 LENTICULAR EDITION (DC)

TOP 10 GRAPHIC NOVELS & TRADE PAPERBACKS
> 1. THE WALKING DEAD VOLUME 28 TP (MR) (IMA)
> 2. BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT III: MASTER RACE HC (DC)
> 3. STAR WARS: DARTH MAUL TP (MAR)
> 4. EAST OF WEST VOLUME 7 TP (MR) (IMA)
> 5. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS VOL. 4: PAST TIMES AT SUPER HERO HIGH TP (DC)
> 6. SEX CRIMINALS VOLUME 4: FOURGY TP (MR) (IMA)
> 7. ALL-STAR BATMAN VOL. 1: MY OWN WORST ENEMY TP (DC)
> 8. ROYAL CITY VOL. 1: NEXT OF KIN TP (IMA)
> 9. HARLEY QUINN VOL. 3: RED MEAT TP (DC)
> 10. WOLVERINE: OLD MAN LOGAN VOL. 5: PAST LIVES TP (MAR)

>Among the premier publishers, Star Wars Adventures #1 was IDW Publishing's top book at #33, while Neil Gaiman's American Gods: Shadows #7 was Dark Horse Comics' top-ranked book at #115.

TOP COMIC BOOK PUBLISHERS
>>RETAIL MARKET SHARE
> 1. MARVEL COMICS (37.97%)
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT (30.21%)
> 3. IMAGE COMICS (9.55%)
> 4. IDW PUBLISHING (4.30%)
> 5. DARK HORSE COMICS (2.44%)
> 6. BOOM! STUDIOS (1.99%)
> 7. DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT (1.94%)
> 8. VIZ MEDIA (1.40%)
> 9. TITAN COMICS (1.16%)
> 10. ONI PRESS (1.10%)
> OTHER NON-TOP 20 (7.94%)

>>UNIT MARKET SHARE
> 1. MARVEL COMICS (38.13%)
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT (36.68%)
> 3. IMAGE COMICS (8.81%)
> 4. IDW PUBLISHING (3.67%)
> 5. DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT (1.91%)
> 6. BOOM! STUDIOS (1.77%)
> 7. DARK HORSE COMICS (1.70%)
> 8. VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC (0.93%)
> 9. TITAN COMICS (0.85%)
> 10. AFTERSHOCK COMICS (0.75%)
> OTHER NON-TOP 10 (4.80%)

Sauce: https://www.diamondcomics.com/Home/1/1/3/597?articleID=102212

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:05:45 No.95824006 Report

Quoted By: >>95824919 >>95824931 >>95827611

DC literally flooded the market with events and Batman #1s and still got BTFO

Will DC ever win?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:07:13 No.95824033 Report

Quoted By: >>95824076

>>95823950
>> 10. ACTION COMICS #987 LENTICULAR EDITION (DC)
What was this? Oz revelation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:07:52 No.95824045 Report

Quoted By: >>95824076 >>95824086 >>95824758

Does the list reflect top sales or shipped to retailers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:08:54 No.95824061 Report

Quoted By: >>95824103 >>95824117 >>95824121 >>95824178 >>95824395

>>95823950
>1. MARVEL LEGACY #1 (MAR)

RETAIL MARKET SHARE
> 1. MARVEL COMICS (37.97%)
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT (30.21%)

UNIT MARKET SHARE
> 1. MARVEL COMICS (38.13%)
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT (36.68%)

Jeez DC just give up this is almost as embarrassing as how bad we beat you at movies, TV shows, cartoons, video games, music, toys, and everything else under the sun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:09:43 No.95824076 Report

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>it's "another comic book sales are down again" episode but with a twist this time: only units were up if only by a little from last August

>>95824033
Yes

>>95824045
Shipped to retailers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:10:04 No.95824086 Report

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>>95824045
Shipped.

I know that because a week before Legacy was available to customers, Marvel was already congratulating themselves for the 350,000 issues sold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:11:03 No.95824103 Report

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>>95824061
SJW Marvel strikes again!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:11:54 No.95824117 Report

Quoted By: >>95824170 >>95824389 >>95824605 >>95824636

>>95824061
>RETAIL MARKET SHARE
>> 1. MARVEL COMICS (37.97%)
>> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT (30.21%)
>UNIT MARKET SHARE
>> 1. MARVEL COMICS (38.13%)
>> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT (36.68%)

I literally find this very difficult to believe / understand, given the state of Marvel Comics. So there IS a market for them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:12:09 No.95824121 Report

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>>95824061
>we
You almost had me. 6/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:15:20 No.95824170 Report

Quoted By: >>95824284

>>95824117
They publish more books and their books are 33% more expensive than DC's.

As long as people are willing to pay 5 books on Venomverse, Marvel will dominate the market share.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:15:36 No.95824178 Report

Quoted By: >>95824332

>>95824061
>movies
>TV shows, cartoons, video games, music, toys, and everything else under the sun

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:16:25 No.95824193 Report

Quoted By: >>95824260 >>95824313

>>95823950
>> 1. THE WALKING DEAD VOLUME 28 TP (MR) (IMA)
>> 4. EAST OF WEST VOLUME 7 TP (MR) (IMA)
>> 6. SEX CRIMINALS VOLUME 4: FOURGY TP (MR) (IMA)
>> 8. ROYAL CITY VOL. 1: NEXT OF KIN TP (IMA)

Every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:21:34 No.95824260 Report

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>>95824193
rich bastards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:22:23 No.95824275 Report

Quoted By: >>95826293 >>95826400

>>95823950
>1. Event
>2. Event
>3. Event
>6. Special #1 1-shot
>8. Event
>9. Event
>10. Variant cover

Gee, and people wonder why they keep doing this shit
>8. #1
>9. #1

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:22:54 No.95824284 Report

Quoted By: >>95824293 >>95824418 >>95825544

>>95824170
>They publish more books and their books are 33% more expensive than DC's.

> 2. DARK NIGHTS: METAL #2 (DC) $3.99
> 6. HARLEY QUINN 25TH-ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL #1 (DC) $4.99
>8. BATMAN: THE RED DEATH #1 (DC) $3.99
> 9. BATMAN: THE MURDER MACHINE #1 (DC) $3.99
> 10. ACTION COMICS #987 LENTICULAR EDITION (DC) $3.99

How many DC books are still $2.99?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:23:34 No.95824293 Report

Quoted By: >>95824331 >>95824347

>>95824284
All of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:24:55 No.95824313 Report

Quoted By: >>95824532

>>95824193
Liefeld looks like a fucking child there. Crazy that he's only 3 years younger than Jim Lee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:25:45 No.95824330 Report

Quoted By: >>95824360 >>95825566

Hard to believe DC weren't #1 last month with all the Batman #1's

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:25:48 No.95824331 Report

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>>95824293

Maybe if you have your DKEK Special Internet Defense Force membership card they all are

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:25:47 No.95824332 Report

Quoted By: >>95824367 >>95824383 >>95824438 >>95824637 >>95828674 >>95828960 >>95828984

>>95824178
Name ONE successful DC show not on CW

Name ONE DC cartoon other than TTG

Name ONE other DC video game coming out this year

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:26:17 No.95824347 Report

Quoted By: >>95824400

>>95824293
Untrue. Monthlies are 3.99.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:27:05 No.95824360 Report

Quoted By: >>95824780 >>95824909 >>95827687

>>95824330
DC hasn't been number one ANY MONTH

Why would they start now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:27:47 No.95824367 Report

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>>95824332
Anyone posting 3 year old information is a fucking retard. Anyone doing it to defend sales of a company is a shill or just sadly, painfully pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:28:37 No.95824383 Report

Quoted By: >>95824415 >>95824487 >>95824569 >>95828307

>>95824332
Name ONE successful Marvel show not on Netflix (even on Netflix they are all still behind fucking "Arrow")

Name ONE current Marvel cartoon that isn't trash.

Name ONE well-received Marvel game that came this year (you know you can't)

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:28:48 No.95824389 Report

Quoted By: >>95824527 >>95824628

>>95824117
It’s Marvel’s dirty, underhanded business tactics as usual.
>overship product so that retailers are forced to buy more than they can sell
>no returns allowed on surplus product. Retailers are stuck with stacks of unsellable books.
>charge twice as much as your main competitor for a lesser product, often having less pages of actual reading material
>fire a majority of Marvel staff members, mostly editors, and have the remainder pick up the slack despite exhaustion
>focus on quantity of books produced rather than any sort of quality. Who cares? Idiots will buy it anyway
>idiots buy it anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:29:08 No.95824395 Report

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>>95824061
>Video games
Kek good one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:29:22 No.95824400 Report

Quoted By: >>95824475

>>95824347
No one reads the monthly DC series

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:30:24 No.95824415 Report

Quoted By: >>95824434

>>95824383
Marvel vs Capcom

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:30:34 No.95824418 Report

Quoted By: >>95824451 >>95824693

>>95824284
>They publish more books and their books are 33% more expensive than DC's
Can't speak for September, but in August Marvel had 29 books in the top 50, DC had 19. 54 in the top 100 vs 42 for DC.

They may publish more books, but they also dominate the top of the charts.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:31:27 No.95824434 Report

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>>95824415

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:31:36 No.95824438 Report

Quoted By: >>95824450

>>95824332
>Name ONE successful DC show not on CW
Pretty sure Gotham is successful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:32:14 No.95824450 Report

Quoted By: >>95824504 >>95824512

>>95824438
Have you seen the ratings? It would take a miracle to get another season

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:32:17 No.95824451 Report

Quoted By: >>95824522

>>95824418
>They may publish more books, but they also dominate the top of the charts.
Maybe that’s because they publish more books.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:32:26 No.95824456 Report

Quoted By: >>95824497 >>95824936 >>95824982

>>95823950
>that top ten

Why are comic book readers professional trash eaters? Every comic on there sucks dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:33:22 No.95824474 Report

Quoted By:

Good to know that Venomfags are even more whipped than xfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:33:24 No.95824475 Report

Quoted By: >>95824679

>>95824400
I pull two copies of Super Sons, Aquaman and Future Quest Presents. Please, though, continue speaking directly from the stinky bowels of your gut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:34:18 No.95824487 Report

Quoted By: >>95824509 >>95824535 >>95824542 >>95824557

>>95824383
>Name ONE successful Marvel show not on Netflix (even on Netflix they are all still behind fucking "Arrow")
Agents of SHIELD

>Name ONE current Marvel cartoon that isn't trash.
most of them just because you have shit taste doesn't mean they're trash

>Name ONE well-received Marvel game that came this year (you know you can't)
We still have Spiderman and Lego marvel super heroes 2 coming out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:34:52 No.95824497 Report

Quoted By: >>95824528 >>95824549

>>95824456
>I only read Zines and newsprint drawings from my art college roommates
Look at this scholar of taste right here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:35:20 No.95824504 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824450
Meanwhile Disney is FORCING ABC to keep producing Marvel's shows, since the series get no audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:35:33 No.95824509 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824487
>Agents of Kek
It’s turned into a spinoff of Inhumans

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:35:37 No.95824512 Report

Quoted By: >>95824525

>>95824450
The most recent season of Gotham had more average viewers than the most recent Agents of Shield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:36:39 No.95824522 Report

Quoted By: >>95824566 >>95825639

>>95824451
More books doesn't automatically mean more success. Their books, on average, are doing better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:36:54 No.95824525 Report

Quoted By: >>95824560 >>95831602

>>95824512
And yet Agents of Shield got a fifth season something Gotham won't

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:36:57 No.95824527 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824389

Oh, ok. This makes sense in a vomit-in-my-mouth kind of way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:36:59 No.95824528 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824497
You don't need to be an indiefag to think that list is trash, bro. There are way better capecomics on the market that have shit sales compared to this mediocrity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:37:10 No.95824532 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824313
he still looks like a child cause he is a child. His early autism onset prevented him from aging past 15

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:37:18 No.95824535 Report

Quoted By: >>95824574 >>95824656

>>95824487
>Agents of MEDIOCRE
Not an answer.

>most of them
NOT an answer.

>We still have Spiderman and Lego marvel super heroes 2 coming out
Notice how this isn’t an answer either. Learn to read questions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:37:42 No.95824542 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824487
>Agents of SHIELD
Fewer viewers than Gotham, barely more viewers than Flash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:38:08 No.95824549 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824497
Legacy was pure trash, Batman (in particular Kingbats) is boring and basic as fuck, Harley Quinn is a meme without substance and The Walking Dead is overdone and has overstayed its welcome for the longest time now. There are much better comics out there, both cape and indie, but the average comic reader is a stupid manchild who sucks Batman and Spiderman's dicks every day so they wouldn't know that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:38:39 No.95824557 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824487
>Agents of SHIELD
>Successful

https://mcuexchange.com/abc-cancel-agents-shield-disney/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:38:41 No.95824559 Report

Quoted By:

>sales figure threads are always filled with /v/irgins

Must be hard to pretend you're a fan in actual comic threads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:38:44 No.95824560 Report

Quoted By: >>95824593

>>95824525
Arrow got a sixth season. What's your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:39:13 No.95824566 Report

Quoted By: >>95824625

>>95824522
If you throw enough shit on the wall, enough of it is bound to stick. “Doing better” is meaningless when most of Marvel’s books are selling indie numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:39:27 No.95824569 Report

Quoted By: >>95824603

>>95824383
>Name ONE successful Marvel show not on Netflix (even on Netflix they are all still behind fucking "Arrow")
>behind Arrow
kek, AoS, Legion and The Gifted are so far past Arrow in every regard
>Name ONE current Marvel cartoon that isn't trash.
....the new Spider-Man isn't too bad...not trash at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:39:46 No.95824574 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824535
(different anon)

To be fair, Agents of SHIELD is at least an answer, even if you disagree with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:40:07 No.95824577 Report

Quoted By: >>95824601 >>95824648

>>95823950
>> 1. MARVEL LEGACY #1 (MAR)
/co/ on suicide watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:42:05 No.95824593 Report

Quoted By: >>95824607 >>95824643

>>95824560
Arrow's on the CW they're used to having shot ratings

Agentsof Shield is on ABC aka one of the big 3 networks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:42:34 No.95824601 Report

Quoted By: >>95825667

>>95824577
Everyone knew this was coming because this only shows how much Marvel shipped not how much they sold. They were bragging about 335k shipped but did they sell out like DC Rebirth did? That's more uncertain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:42:37 No.95824603 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824569
>kek, AoS, Legion and The Gifted are so far past Arrow in every regard
Except in success.

http://www.businessinsider.com/most-popular-tv-shows-2016-12/#4-hbos-westworld-with-35-million-demand-expressions-per-day-just-what-the-network-needs-as-game-of-thrones-approaches-its-end-note-that-this-average-might-be-inflated-since-the-show-has-only-been-around-for-a-few-months-4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:42:41 No.95824605 Report

Quoted By: >>95824635

>>95824117
No, it means that's what stores are ordering/what Marvel is shipping to stores. Marvel does all kinds of scammy shit to make sure their books get into stores (shipping cancelled orders, shipping books if you order other books, etc.) and thus have their stuff show up nicely on the rankings and so they can crow about having to go into second printings.

Point of sale, most of those just shit on shelves collecting dust in the shops and taking up space. Retailers have been pretty universal in saying that there's mediocre interest in Legacy at their stores.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:43:00 No.95824607 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824593
And ABC wanted to cancel it, but was forced by Disney to keep it going.

They also had Agent Carter cancelled after 2 seasons, and Inhumans is off to a shit start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:43:37 No.95824622 Report

Quoted By: >>95824676

Okey, but seriously, can anyone tell me why someone would feel compelled to buy Legacy? I used to be a huge marvelfag before the cancelled every book I liked, but there was literally nothing compelling in that comic (which I did not buy and only read because people said it was so awful).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:44:02 No.95824625 Report

Quoted By: >>95824657

>>95824566
>most are selling indie numbers
Most are doing just as well, if not better, than DC. What are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:44:22 No.95824628 Report

Quoted By: >>95824672

>>95824389
>charge twice as much as your main competitor for a lesser product, often having less pages of actual reading material
Remember when Marvel used that as an excuse for why DC was abusing the retailers and got promptly told to fuck off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:45:04 No.95824635 Report

Quoted By: >>95824657

>>95824605
People say this in every thread, but comic shops wouldn't stay open by continually buying shit that doesn't sell.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:45:05 No.95824636 Report

Quoted By: >>95824672 >>95824709 >>95824962

>>95824117
>I literally find this very difficult to believe / understand, given the state of Marvel Comics.
Not that hard to believe. This month had Legacy, Venomverse and lots of Generations issues. That's a lot of expensive issues while DC has largely maintained $2.99 for basic issues and $3.99 for monthlies and even specials. So that accounts for the retail gap.

If you want to talk about falling Marvel sales, look at the unit gap. Last month Marvel came in at 39.5% and DC at 30%. Now they're neck and neck. That's crazy considering the above books from Marvel and even crazier if Marvel's 350k figure is true, because that's an EXTREME figure. If Marvel shipped that much Legacy and DC is neck and neck with them, then there's some combination of massive Marvel sales drop and massive DC sales increase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:45:09 No.95824637 Report

Quoted By: >>95824652

>>95824332
>Name ONE successful DC show not on CW

Lucifer, Gotham and that should be added to this year but it's not fair to say since there is no way of knowing if they will be successful. The Adam West Batman and Linda Carter are still very popular in syndication and the only Marvel based show that even comes close (and not really) is the Bixby Hulk. WB Animation collects plenty of money from streams of things like Young Justice and the JL/JLU episodes from Netflix and Amazon Prime, and WB Television still continues to make money from, for example, Smallville via Hulu and Amazon Prime. That's not say that Disney XD isn't transferring money to Marvel or that Marvel isn't collecting a decent licensing fee from Netflix for their line up there, but the only reason AoS is saying on ABC this year is that Disney refused to let the network cancel it which is what they network wanted to do. And do you really want to talk in defense of Inhumans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:45:32 No.95824643 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824593
And Disney forced them to keep airing the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:46:08 No.95824648 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824577
To be fair, I thought everyone expected it to be on the number one spot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:46:25 No.95824652 Report

Quoted By: >>95824744

>>95824637
>The Adam West Batman and Linda Carter are still very popular in syndication and the only Marvel based show that even comes close (and not really) is the Bixby Hulk
>bringing up 40 year old shows to talk about the current state of these companies
fucking kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:46:37 No.95824656 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824535
You're one to talk seeing as you couldn't even answer the original questions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:46:44 No.95824657 Report

Quoted By: >>95824745 >>95824977

>>95824635
That's why they are closing.

>>95824625
Of course Marvel has more books in the Top 100, they have more books than DC, this is to be expected.

Marvel also has way more books selling under 20k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:48:05 No.95824672 Report

Quoted By: >>95824869 >>95829905

>>95824628
I vaguely remember this. Please remind me.

>>95824636
>Generations
Those books came out? I remember the Hulk, Wolverine, and Phoenix issues, but that's all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:48:29 No.95824676 Report

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>>95824622
they didn't know they could pirate it and read it before buying it. These kind of books are traps cause readers think they need to buy it in order to know what's going on

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:48:34 No.95824679 Report

Quoted By: >>95824696 >>95824708 >>95824713 >>95829187

I honestly can't believe people buy Harley Quinn comics, they're pretty bad.
>>95824475
Aquaman is monthly now? Since when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:49:32 No.95824693 Report

Quoted By: >>95824714

>>95824418
but they also have more books performing below 30-20K don't they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:49:42 No.95824696 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824679
Its DC’s Deadpool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:50:29 No.95824708 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824679
issue 26 they went monthly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:50:32 No.95824709 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824636
>350k figure is true

It's not a measure of sales. Not at all.

And retainability isn't an actual issue because Marvel literally shipped multiple numbers of those 350K to Diamond retailers that don't have to pay for them, or literally pay for most of them, beyond what they order.

It's true that some of those LCSs, to be fair, might sell some of that over shipment, but it's not like they are going to turn around and send that money to Diamond or Marvel. There is no reason for them to do so, since they didn't order nor have ANY legal requirement to pay for them. They could toss them in the dumpster next month and not suffer any financial loss, except if their sanitation company wants to charge them for hauling away more garbage than usual.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:50:51 No.95824713 Report

Quoted By: >>95824741 >>95824757 >>95824776

Marvel Legacy Week One BTFO On Day One comiXology Sales

Source: https://twitter.com/AmyZiegfeld/status/915981323226955776

>>95824679
>Aquaman is monthly now? Since when?
Last July

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:50:55 No.95824714 Report

Quoted By: >>95837903

>>95824693
Prove it.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:51:29 No.95824720 Report

Quoted By: >>95824771 >>95824862

>Marvel has more books on the market!
It's not just about having more books on the market, it's about literally requiring LCS to over-order books in order to participate in advertised promotions like variant covers.
>Advertise Hip Hop variants because black liquidity matters
>You order of Avengers #1 must exceed 150% of your Old Man Logan #1 order
Ever wonder why variant covers are $50? You're paying for all the A-covers the LCS had to order just to stock the variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:52:23 No.95824727 Report

Quoted By: >>95824746 >>95824781 >>95824838

>>95823950
>1. MARVEL LEGACY #1 (MAR)
I don't understand. It had fuck all digital sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:53:39 No.95824741 Report

Quoted By: >>95824757 >>95824765

>>95824713
And yet marvel will still win the month

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:53:42 No.95824744 Report

Quoted By: >>95824800

>>95824652

You are stupid if you don't think that syndication matters.

You are even more pathetic if you don't think that libraries, residuals and catalogue sales matter to companies like DC and Marvel, Warner Brothers and Disney, or their shareholders.

DO you think that if anyone were interested in watching those POS Captain America serials or other shitty old Marvel films before Marvel was forced to sell all those IPs off, that Marvel wouldn't be making money from them?

Do you even have a concept of how businesses operate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:53:45 No.95824745 Report

Quoted By: >>95824812 >>95824832

>>95824657
>Marvel has way more books selling under 20k
Under 20k:
Marvel - 42
DC - 28

Which sounds like a lot, until you do some actual thinking and notice that nine of those Marvel books are $1 "True Believer" reprints.

So the real 20k total:
Marvel - 33
DC - 28

Is that really "way more"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:53:48 No.95824746 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824727
Diamond is what gets shipped to retailers, not what gets bought by customers. And according to retailers they're having a hard time selling what they got.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:54:26 No.95824757 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824713
Ah, haven't been into Aquaman lately since they're doing him losing the crown shit again.
>>95824741
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:54:28 No.95824758 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824045
Shipped to retailers.
A lot of marvels strategy is to have schemes that force shops to order more comics then they need to shore up there rankings. You can't trust that number one spot for legacy at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:54:45 No.95824765 Report

Quoted By: >>95824863

>>95824741
in terms of sell-through to Diamond accounts

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:54:50 No.95824766 Report

Quoted By:

>>95823950
>1. MARVEL COMICS (37.97%)
>2. DC ENTERTAINMENT (30.21%)
>1. MARVEL COMICS (38.13%)
>2. DC ENTERTAINMENT (36.68%)
Really jogs my noggin

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:55:01 No.95824771 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824720
With that page, you barely even have to single out the Hip Hop variant. Just look at the incentive barriers for every other variant cover.

Is a single Alex Ross variant cover worth upwards of $1,000 in ANAL Avengers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:55:20 No.95824776 Report

Quoted By: >>95824814

>>95824713
>Everyone BTFW by Walking Dead
Why is everyone so focused on more Marvel vs DC company wars bullshit when this shitty comic is the most popular comic book in America?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:55:33 No.95824780 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824360
They were for several months when New 52 started, and the first two months of Rebirth, and whenever they did gimmick months like Villain's Month and even years back they had the odd month they'd be on top like when Brightest Day ended. Time to face facts, Rebirth is just cancer, all this Batman and they have nothing to show for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:55:35 No.95824781 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824727
SJW Marvel Strikes Back!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:56:57 No.95824800 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824744
This is a discussion of the current states of both companies.

If you're really concerned about the business as a whole, why are we even talking about comics and TV when we could just look at the box office?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:57:45 No.95824810 Report

Quoted By: >>95824962

>>95823950
>that jump between Retail Market Share and Unit Market Share for DC
Wait... what? I'm having trouble understanding why this would be the case. Unit being significantly higher than Retail is usually a result of overshipping (as was the case for Marvel for the past year) but as far as I'm aware, DC doesn't overship.

Is it just because Marvel Legacy was a $6 book? That's really the only reason I can think of that would explain it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:57:50 No.95824812 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824745
Yes, because to DC you are counting "digital first" books like Injustice and DC Comics Bombshell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:57:54 No.95824814 Report

Quoted By: >>95824847 >>95824848

Man, is Legacy really selling well? Just went to my LCS and a lot of the lenticular covers (which normally run out fast) are still on the shelves.
>>95824776
It's pretty popular because of the show Anon, my ex used to only buy that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:59:01 No.95824832 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824745
A percentage of releases is a better way to compare here. How many total books did each company release in that time period?

The amount of total books at or below 20K divided by the amount of total books released will give you the percentages to compare.

If they released the same amount of books this wouldn't be necessary but Marvel generally releases more per month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:59:25 No.95824838 Report

Quoted By: >>95824867 >>95824871 >>95824900

>>95824727

Marvel Unlimited

Marvel has a service where you pay a one time yearly fee and can read all their current comics on a 6 month delay. This cuts severely into Marvel's digital sales.

It's also funny how nobody gives Marvel credit for this cheap way to read all their comics while DC still charges cover for their digital books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 15:59:55 No.95824847 Report

Quoted By: >>95824871 >>95825112 >>95825139 >>95825230

>>95824814
>It's pretty popular because of the show Anon, my ex used to only buy that.
I know WHY it's popular. I'm saying it's fucking stupid that it's #1.

Hell, I even read the book still; I just got vol 28 in the mail yesterday. It entertains me just enough. But it's barely even a good book, let alone a great one. There's so much better shit that even normies should love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:00:00 No.95824848 Report

Quoted By: >>95824871

>>95824814
These are only the orders by the shops.
Not the actual sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:00:55 No.95824862 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824720
The big point here too is this isn't just for variants. If a shop decided that they wanted to boycott Marvel for a month to make a point there's a good chance they don't get to order any more marvel. Which I'm pretty sure can jeopardize their standing with Diamond which can affect their DC orders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:01:00 No.95824863 Report

Quoted By: >>95825025

>>95824765
Also in terms of money in their pockets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:01:11 No.95824867 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824838
>"Legacy" didn't sell digitally because readers can read it 6 months from now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:01:28 No.95824869 Report

Quoted By: >>95824962

>>95824672
>Those books came out? I remember the Hulk, Wolverine, and Phoenix issues, but that's all.
5/10 came out in September, $4.99 each. Venomverse is $4.99. Legacy is $5.99, etc. All the Metal issues up there are $3.99, Batman is $2.99. etc. Marvel is selling 88/42 comics/trades to DC's 77/44 at a higher price point but unit sales are just about even.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:01:30 No.95824871 Report

Quoted By: >>95824918 >>95824929 >>95824932 >>95824964

>>95824838
To be fair DC gives free digital codes for the monthlies you buy and they only had the price bump of a dollar.
>>95824847
I don't get it man, I never liked the comic since it was bland.
>>95824848
Ah, I see. Also I tried checking out the Lenticular effect and it wasn't changing image, did they fuck up or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:03:16 No.95824900 Report

Quoted By: >>95824932 >>95825015 >>95828285

>>95824838
DC was giving free codes for floppies. Marvel has basically incentivized/fostered trade waiting as it's the same time frames as the digi releases there.

I don't do digital at all because I like to own something and not have to use/pay for a fucking app to read things. Quite frankly the only people that would praise marvel for that are plebs, poorfags and casuals. It's not good for the industry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:03:58 No.95824909 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824360
>DC hasn't been number one ANY MONTH
Not true. They were #1 the first two months of New 52, there were also #1 the third month of Rebirth, and they were #1 the month that Death of Superman came out in the 90s.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:04:18 No.95824918 Report

Quoted By: >>95825045

>>95824871
>did they fuck up or something?
That should be the slogan we use for Marvel from now on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:04:23 No.95824919 Report

Quoted By: >>95824935

>>95824006
>DC literally flooded the market with events

Its one single event you doofus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:05:16 No.95824929 Report

Quoted By: >>95825045

>>95824871
>I don't get it man, I never liked the comic since it was bland.
Lowest common denominator. It happened to be one of the first big things at the front of the zombie trend, and it's the only thing that really survived it.

And honestly, it started off pretty solid imo. It was never amazing by any means, but the first several arcs were really enjoyable. It's also been possibly the most consistent book in the market in terms of release. I'm not sure they've ever dropped a month since Adlard took over, and they even double shipped for All Out War. That's kept it coming out consistently, and the trades hit the shelf every 6 months like clockwork, so it's really easy to stay caught up on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:05:19 No.95824931 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824006
>only two comics in the top ten
>DC got BTFO

you're retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:05:23 No.95824932 Report

Quoted By: >>95824938 >>95824963

>>95824871
>>95824900

Marvel gives free codes will all floppies, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:05:39 No.95824935 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824919
Don’t fall for obvious bait, chum.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:05:50 No.95824936 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824456
>edgy Batman event tie-ins sell better than Priestroke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:05:54 No.95824938 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824932
No they don't. Stop spreading lies, shill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:07:26 No.95824962 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824810
>Wait... what? I'm having trouble understanding why this would be the case. Unit being significantly higher than Retail is usually a result of overshipping (as was the case for Marvel for the past year) but as far as I'm aware, DC doesn't overship.
See >>95824636 and >>95824869. Keep in mind this is percentages, not raw numbers. Marvel books are typically priced between 25%-35% higher on average between all books compared to DC. So the retail gap is about right considering the unit gamp is pretty even.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:07:34 No.95824963 Report

Quoted By: >>95824981

>>95824932
>DC still charges cover for their digital books.
What does that matter. The claim was:
>DC still charges cover for their digital books.
The answers were DC was giving "free codes for floppies" and "To be fair DC gives free digital codes for the monthlies you buy and they only had the price bump of a dollar."

None of that disputes the fact that marvel has done the same (for more money)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:07:39 No.95824964 Report

Quoted By: >>95824981

>>95824871
>To be fair DC gives free digital codes for the monthlies you buy and they only had the price bump of a dollar.
Hasn't Marvel been giving free digital codes for all their comics for the past like 5 years?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:08:24 No.95824977 Report

Quoted By: >>95824988

>>95824657
>Marvel also has way more books selling under 20k.
Of course. Because they publish more books. See how your shitty "argument" can be used against you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:08:37 No.95824981 Report

Quoted By: >>95825013

>>95824964
see
>>95824963

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:08:41 No.95824982 Report

Quoted By: >>95826103

>>95824456
Factually incorrect. Murder Machine was alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:09:18 No.95824988 Report

Quoted By: >>95825246

>>95824977
It is exactly what I said, retard.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:09:38 No.95824999 Report

Quoted By:

>>95823950
That's amazing! Sensational! Lentacular!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:10:25 No.95825013 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824981
But the logic of "we're charging $1 more because you get a "free" digital copy" to justify bumping from 2.99 to 3.99 for their monthlies is the exact same justification Marvel used for going from 2.99 to 3.99 in the early-00s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:10:28 No.95825015 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824900
I don't subscribe to Marvel Unlimited, and if I'm going to buy a comic I want the physical copy. That said, Marvel Unlimited is great. Why wouldn't you want more ways to access content? It's smart cause instead of people pirating these books they can easily go there and read a bunch of old comics. It's not expensive and it's not a hassle, thus is one of the few content creators that actually makes a product that is better than a pirated version. Games, tv, movies are all better versions if you pirate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:11:13 No.95825025 Report

Quoted By: >>95825096

>>95824863
not really, Diamond estimates the money they make based on copies shipped. But if Marvel ships copies for free, Diamond still counts those copies as sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:12:24 No.95825045 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824929
I don't know man, I was always burned out on the ideas of zombies so it never went for me.
>>95824918
Legit tho, the cover is supposed to transition to black and white I believe but when I was shifting the cover right to left it was still colored, I mean fuck the whole point of lenticular is the cool cover effect change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:16:11 No.95825096 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825025
You have no reason to think otherwise, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:17:00 No.95825112 Report

Quoted By: >>95825134

>>95824847
If you're buying it then you have no right to complain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:19:03 No.95825134 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825112
Oh okay in that case I'll let you get back to you company wars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:19:16 No.95825139 Report

Quoted By: >>95825167

>>95824847
>Why are people buying this shit book that I also buy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:20:33 No.95825165 Report

Quoted By: >>95825251 >>95825283

>>95823950
Comic book industry is officially dead.
Prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:20:40 No.95825167 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825139
It's not the only book I buy, though, but it's clearly the only book a lot of other people buy. I'm not saying people shouldn't buy it - it's just a bummer that it's the most popular.

Jesus, how hard is it to read?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:24:17 No.95825230 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824847
>But it's barely even a good book, let alone a great one.
Most books in the Top 10 month to month are actually pretty shitty and only sell so high because:
>Batman
>Event
>#1
>Gimmick Covers
So a "barely good" comic getting into the Top 10 is still better than most high selling books. Comics rarely sell on quality, but rather on recognizability. Batman comics sell great because of Batman, not because of the quality of the book. Events sell great because they get hyped up as "super important," not because of the quality of the book. Likewise, Walking Dead sells great because it's the most well-known non-cape book thanks to the TV show and as such, sells great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:25:11 No.95825246 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824988
Retard, your "argument" is shit. They publish more comics in the top 50 because they simply sell better and because of this they can afford to publish a lot of titles under 20k.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:25:27 No.95825251 Report

Quoted By: >>95825273 >>95825287 >>95825407

>>95825165
Comic book movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:26:39 No.95825273 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825251
Movies =/= Comics
They can exist without each other.
Try harder next time, kiddo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:27:21 No.95825283 Report

Quoted By: >>95825322 >>95825394

>>95825165
I hope DC and Marvel crash the industry by this time next year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:27:41 No.95825287 Report

Quoted By: >>95825492

>>95825251
Well the DC is definitely dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:28:01 No.95825292 Report

Quoted By: >>95825414

>>95823950
WOW there is no Marvel hero book in top 10
Only event

And they got there ass saved by over shipping ,firsts and the 5,99$

Big "dick" Lenny

Big "dick" Lenny Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:28:36 No.95825301 Report

Quoted By:

>>95823950
>normies are actually reading legacy
Sad!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:29:33 No.95825322 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825283
This year not. But look out for next year for sure.
I feel both dead inside, but also relieved

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:30:51 No.95825346 Report

Quoted By:

as much as i like DC, I'm now always reminded of this when we see "DC literally saving comics; Marvel keeps fucking things up for everyone!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7zmjyhSpbs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:31:24 No.95825354 Report

Quoted By: >>95825370 >>95826398

STOP BUYING SUPERHERO COMICS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:32:19 No.95825370 Report

Quoted By: >>95825395

>>95825354
I stopped. Does Usagi, Dylan dog, Hellboy count as superhero comics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:33:54 No.95825394 Report

Quoted By: >>95825405 >>95825430 >>95825451

>>95825283
>He said in 2005, 2010, 2015, and every year inbetween

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:33:58 No.95825395 Report

Quoted By: >>95825405

>>95825370
Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:34:26 No.95825405 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825394
>Why must I suffer for so long

>>95825395
Then, I can't

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:34:30 No.95825407 Report

Quoted By: >>95825425 >>95825453

>>95825251
>Print media is dying prove me wrong
>Films are doing well

you're a fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:34:56 No.95825414 Report

Quoted By: >>95825463 >>95825465 >>95825666

>>95825292
And Batman is the only non-event DC book. This is par for the course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:35:29 No.95825425 Report

Quoted By: >>95825584

>>95825407
Let's not insult each other, because this is what marlel expects of us. We should be insulting marlel instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:35:45 No.95825430 Report

Quoted By: >>95825480 >>95825489

>>95825394
No, just now. The events, the variants, the fucking unironically lenticular covers, the price bumping, the tie ins... And between it all? Garbage, pure unfiltered, creatively bankrupt garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:36:41 No.95825451 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825394
2005 and 2010 were pretty good, fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:36:46 No.95825453 Report

Quoted By: >>95825467 >>95825479 >>95825584

>>95825407
No print media means no more ideas for Hollywood to ripoff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:37:31 No.95825463 Report

Quoted By: >>95825494 >>95825992

>>95825414
Don't give DC too much credit, the event itself is a Batman event and the special tie in one shots are literally Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:37:44 No.95825465 Report

Quoted By: >>95825505

>>95825414
Are you blind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:38:05 No.95825467 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825453
Diff. anon, let's compare movie Civil war to comic book Civil war. Or comic book DOFP, to movie DOFP There is over 50 years of comic books, and frankly, hollywood is doing their own stories.

OR, they can employ people like Ellis to write a plot for the next movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:38:44 No.95825479 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825453
Usually Hollywood takes old stories and adapts them, not new ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:38:45 No.95825480 Report

Quoted By: >>95825503 >>95825523

>>95825430
Literally all of that was said in 2005

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:39:12 No.95825489 Report

Quoted By: >>95825608

>>95825430
Maybe you should try making your own comic, m8.

Oh yeah, most of those guys blaming the lack of originality don't do shit when there is actual originality because "muh nostalgia" and "not muh way to see comics". So, that's why comics will be in such an endless cycle until either fans die for good or the companies fall due to unexpected shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:39:14 No.95825492 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825287
All of their DCEU critical failures were still commercial successes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:39:23 No.95825494 Report

Quoted By: >>95825698

>>95825463
You know, I used to be a massive batfag in the 90s, but this is ridiculous. All of that shit literally made me a superfag and greenlanternfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:39:47 No.95825503 Report

Quoted By: >>95825524

>>95825480
Nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:39:53 No.95825505 Report

Quoted By: >>95825519

>>95825465
If you're referring to action comics, that's a fucking event issue. Batman #30 and 31 are the only normal issues in the top 10 other than TWD.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:40:38 No.95825519 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825505
Do you know what an event is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:40:55 No.95825523 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825480
It wasn't. Variants became a thing after Alonso came to power, which was 2012

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:40:55 No.95825524 Report

Quoted By: >>95825549 >>95825725

>>95825503
>people weren't complaining about events 10 years ago
k

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:42:02 No.95825544 Report

Quoted By: >>95826099

>>95824284
>How many DC books are still $2.99?
How many Marvel books were $4.99 or $5.99?

Yeah there are fewer $3 DC books. But there are more and more premium-priced Marvel books. Marvel is still more expensive by quite a margin overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:42:17 No.95825549 Report

Quoted By: >>95825610

>>95825524
>Events
>10 years ago
Name me ten marvel events of 2000s

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:43:16 No.95825566 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824330
We'll never know actual comparisons anymore because Marvel overships like mad.

My local shop only stacks one or a maximum two wall copies of anything. Even Batman only has two wall copies. This shop had 20 wall copies of Legacy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:44:35 No.95825584 Report

Quoted By: >>95825606

>>95825425
Anon tried to prove that a niche of print media was not dying by answering that movies based on a specific genre of a niche market doing well. It's not an insult to tell him he's retarded. It's factual.

>>95825453
What does that have to do with proving comics aren't dying by telling someone adaptations are doing well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:45:56 No.95825606 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825584
> It's factual.
Yes, but this one time, instead of being factual to each other, we should insult the real problem. Marvel and their current "creative" people.

Marvel can still be a behemoth, but not under current reign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:45:58 No.95825608 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825489
You gonna publish me? Come on m8, I don't even want you to pay me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:46:05 No.95825610 Report

Quoted By: >>95825672

>>95825549
Maximum Security, Disassembled, House of M, Civil War, Secret Invasion, Siege, Annihilation, War of Kings, the Messiah Trilogy, World War Hulk

And then you had shit that was basically "event-lite" like Dark Reign, the Initiative, and Decimation,

And that's just Marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:48:05 No.95825639 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824522
>Their books, on average, are doing better.
How do you even know anymore? We've seen images of comic shop sales receipts showing that the owner wanted to downgrade his Guardians of the Galaxy order from 12 to 8 copies, and Marvel ended up sending him 24 copies. These count as "sales" on the Diamond charts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:49:32 No.95825666 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825414
At least he is a DC hero

Where is your heros marvel ??

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:49:39 No.95825667 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824601
Rebirth #1 was a $2.99 comic that sold for like $15 on eBay within a week of it being out.
Because there was actual demand for it.
Marvel Legacy is being given away for free at many shops, and they still have 30 extra complimentary copies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:50:00 No.95825672 Report

Quoted By: >>95825862 >>95825865 >>95825895

>>95825610
Dissasembled wasn't an event, same with Messiah Trilogy. Otherwise you are correct. So, you have 8 "Events", over the first decade.

Dark Reign, wasn't an event, nor a crossver.
Anyway, let's just count 2016-2017 marvel events, shall we?
>Standoff
>Apocalypse Wars
>Civil War
>Last Days of Magic
>Clone Conspiracy
>Inhumans vs X-Men
>Monsters Unleashed
>Secret Empire
>Venomverse
I am 100% certain that I missed something out, but I just lost track

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:50:56 No.95825698 Report

Quoted By: >>95825730

>>95825494
I'm still a batfag but I was never a mindless fanboy so when DC are going to publish a good Batman comic I'll read it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:52:23 No.95825725 Report

Quoted By: >>95825752

>>95825524
People were complaint about sjws taking over the industry 20 years ago too, what's your point? Fact is, event spamming has just gotten worse and worse with each year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:52:42 No.95825730 Report

Quoted By: >>95825803

>>95825698
I envy you. I still probably have a better knowledge in regards to the villains. I just can't get into batman, because he is shilled too much. It's scary, because it feels like someone like me got to write batman, which is a huge mistake, btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:53:46 No.95825752 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825725
Back then, they weren't called SJWS. The fact remains, people were complaining, and the readership was diminishing. 20k was a cancel point for marvel. Nowadays, they keep publishing books selling 10k or less points, because trades (bullshit).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:56:18 No.95825803 Report

Quoted By: >>95825838

>>95825730
Like I said, I don't read the garbage so despite the fact that DC is shitting out a million Batman comics there's still a batvoid left in my life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:56:19 No.95825805 Report

Quoted By: >>95825869

My local store doesn't carry new Marvel. They are not comic book exclusive though. Lots of DC and others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:57:42 No.95825838 Report

Quoted By: >>95825889

>>95825803
Frankly, nowadays I mostly read DC imprints. But I started loving superman. Batman is noir pulp, while Superman is sci-fi pulp. But batman always was cooler. Batman and X-Men ruled the 90s

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:58:33 No.95825862 Report

Quoted By: >>95825915 >>95825942 >>95825946 >>95825968

>>95825672
>Disassembled wasn't an event despite tying into several different ongoings
>Messiah Trilogy wasn't an event despite tying into every X-Book and having several extra issues

>Apocalypse Wars is a crossover between 3 ongoings with no extra issues
>Standoff has 2 oneshots and a single issue in several different books
>Last Days of Magic is one arc and a miniseries
>Clone Conspiracy has less tie-ins than Disassembled

Stop being fucking stupid. There might be more events now, I'm not doubting that, but you're clearly creating double standards here. By those rules, we should count shit like Secret War too, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:58:45 No.95825865 Report

Quoted By: >>95825968

>>95825672
Technically Monsters Unleashed wasn't really an event per se, as it wasn't really a big crossover nor affected the books involved (like what Metal should be), but then again
>Batgod fanwankers
Have made the event go crazy in numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 16:59:02 No.95825869 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825805
Good for them. Other shop owners like to badmouth marvel online but still stock their shelves with marvel comucs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:00:05 No.95825889 Report

Quoted By: >>95825968

>>95825838
X-Men were garbage in the 90s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:00:11 No.95825895 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825672
>Dissasembled not an event
>Messiah Complex not an event
>Messiah War not an event
>Second Coming not an event
OK, sure, but then how in the ever loving FUCK are Apocalypse Wars, Standoff, or Last Days of Magic events?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:01:29 No.95825915 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825862
>>Apocalypse Wars is a crossover between 3 ongoings with no extra issues
It's not even that. The three ongoings had nothing to do with each other. It was just "these three books are having arcs about apocalypse independent of each other at the same time." There was no crossover there. None of the three books were remotely related plotwise. It was just an arc about Genesis, an arc about Archangel, and an arc about Apocalypse in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:02:21 No.95825942 Report

Quoted By: >>95825994

>>95825862
>>Standoff has 2 oneshots and a single issue in several different books
How is this not an even if it crossed over with several titles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:02:31 No.95825946 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825862
>Last Days of Magic is one arc and a miniseries
Not even. It was one arc with a single one-shot tie-in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:03:43 No.95825968 Report

Quoted By: >>95826003 >>95826013 >>95826048 >>95826061 >>95826073

>>95825889
AoA. Opinion discarded

>>95825862
Dissasembled was an Avengers story. I don't remember any other book participating in Avengers story.

Standoff included Illuminati. What Illuminati have to do with Avengers?

Apocalypse Wars was actually called an event. But okay, let's say that it wasn't.

>>Last Days of Magic is one arc and a miniseries
shieeet. If it wasn't an event, why it did have a one-shot?

Clone Conspiracy was a spider-man event, but an event nonetheless.

Messiah Trilogy wasn't even called Messiah Trilogy, it was three different stories.

You should have said Age of X, but you didn't, because you fucked up.

>>95825865
Monsters Unleashed had special issues

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:04:29 No.95825992 Report

Quoted By: >>95826042

>>95825463
It take only one DC hero to flush all marvel's shitty hero down !!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:04:31 No.95825994 Report

Quoted By: >>95826049

>>95825942
I'm not saying it wasn't, but if Dissasembled and the 3 Messiah storylines don't count, then neither does Standoff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:04:59 No.95826003 Report

Quoted By: >>95826074

>>95825968
>AoA. Opinion discarded
Have you... actually read AoA? It was ambitious and had some good ideas, but almost all of the books were actually pretty bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:05:24 No.95826013 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825968
Shit taste detected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:06:37 No.95826042 Report

Quoted By: >>95826169 >>95826254

>>95825992
Numbers say DC is getting buttfucked by marvel. Again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:06:44 No.95826048 Report

Quoted By:

>>95825968
>What Illuminati have to do with Avengers?
Illuminati was a Masters of Evil book. How is a book about Avengers villains not an Avengers book? That's like saying Magneto wasn't an X-book or Loki: Agent of Asgard wasn't a Thor book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:06:46 No.95826049 Report

Quoted By: >>95826112

>>95825994
Standoff had 3 special issues, plus it included non-avengers books, like Shield, Howling Commandos and Illuminati

Disassembled was exclusively Avengers Stories, and Messiah was X-Men stuff. Clone Conspiracy had massive spin-offs (including Prowler), and they had a special mini-series with the main event, none of the messiah trilogy had such.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:07:30 No.95826061 Report

Quoted By: >>95826120

>>95825968
Yeah, but it was like Metal is, those special events didn't affect at all the stories like most crossovers do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:07:50 No.95826073 Report

Quoted By: >>95826120

>>95825968
>Dissasembled was an Avengers story. I don't remember any other book participating in Avengers story.
Then you're willfully ignorant.

>shieeet. If it wasn't an event, why it did have a one-shot?
So did all three Messiah events.

>Clone Conspiracy was a spider-man event, but an event nonetheless.
You just said Disassembled didn't count because it was only Avengers...

>Messiah Trilogy wasn't even called Messiah Trilogy, it was three different stories.
And each of the three was an event.

>Age of X
I would've said it, because it was an event, but it was in 2011.
What's ironic, though, is that it was even less of a crossover than the Messiah stories. Yet here you're counting it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:07:52 No.95826074 Report

Quoted By: >>95826105 >>95826106

>>95826003
I did. It was good. If anything, it's one of the few X-men stories that even detractors agree that was good. Of course, being /co/ntrarian is the norm, so have a (you), but don't reply to me, because you are too young to know anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:08:58 No.95826099 Report

Quoted By: >>95826321 >>95826357

>>95825544
>>How many DC books are still $2.99?How many Marvel books were $4.99 or $5.99?Yeah there are fewer $3 DC books. But there are more and more premium-priced Marvel books. Marvel is still more expensive by quite a margin overall.

Marvel legacy 68 pages $5,99
Harley anniversary 48 pages $4.99

20 more pages for a buck

Most "premium" marvel books have more content to justify the price. So just because a book costs more doesn't mean it's a rip-off.

If Marvel split Legacy into two issues at $2.99 apiece would it make /co/ feel better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:09:14 No.95826103 Report

Quoted By: >>95826129

>>95824982
So we're settling for mediocrity, huhh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:09:15 No.95826105 Report

Quoted By: >>95826145

>>95826074
>/co/ntrarian
Opinion discarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:09:16 No.95826106 Report

Quoted By: >>95826145 >>95833016

>>95826074
Look, I read it at the time and thought it was great. I went back and tried rereading all of it a couple years ago and found that not only did it not age very well, but was overall a pretty poor experience. There's stuff I like about it, sure, but it's still not particularly good. Hell, I think Onslaught Saga holds up better as far as X-related 90s events.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:09:30 No.95826112 Report

Quoted By: >>95826172

>>95826049
>Disassembled was exclusively Avengers Stories
If SHIELD, HC, and Illuminati don't count as Avengers stories, then neither do Cap&Falcon, Thor, and Iron Man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:09:43 No.95826120 Report

Quoted By: >>95826223

>>95826061
>didn't affect
It's a shitty argument, and you know it.
If a title is involved then it is affected.

>>95826073
>Then you're willfully ignorant.
How?

>So did all three Messiah events.
You mean, reprints?

>You just said Disassembled didn't count because it was only Avengers...
I don't remember being Avengers Dissasembled #1, or Alpha.

>Yet here you're counting it?
Using your template, it was more of an event than what you counted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:10:18 No.95826129 Report

Quoted By: >>95828173

>>95826103
You claimed they all sucked dick. Something that's mediocre doesn't suck dick. It only stares longingly at the dick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:10:46 No.95826145 Report

Quoted By: >>95826200

>>95826105
And fuck you too

>>95826106
Okay. Well, everything you like is shit. Watchmen is shit. I re-read it and it's so edgy and cringe that it makes me feel that it's complete shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:11:36 No.95826169 Report

Quoted By: >>95826264

>>95826042
Well when you sell your books with 2,99$

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:11:49 No.95826172 Report

Quoted By: >>95826261

>>95826112
You mean that "disassembled tag"? What did it have to do with the main avengers story?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:13:00 No.95826200 Report

Quoted By: >>95826215

>>95826145
Did you seriously just compare AoA with Watchmen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:13:26 No.95826215 Report

Quoted By: >>95826287 >>95826295 >>95826348

>>95826200
Did you seriously get triggered?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:13:45 No.95826223 Report

Quoted By: >>95826322

>>95826120
>How?
Because several ongoing series tied in to that story.

>You mean, reprints?
>X-Men: Messiah Complex #1
>X-Men: Messiah War One-Shot
>X-Men: Second Coming #1 and #2

Seriously, just use google if you're unsure about something.

>I don't remember being Avengers Dissasembled #1, or Alpha.
I guess you forgot about Avengers Finale then.

>Using your template, it was more of an event than what you counted.
It's the exact same setup as the Messiah books, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:15:15 No.95826254 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826042
And again THERE IS NO MARVEL HERO WHO CAN RAKE THE BAT GOD DOWN

So don't warry buddy I will recommend a good Urologist for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:15:25 No.95826261 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826172
>You mean that "disassembled tag"? What did it have to do with the main avengers story?
The Cap book is literally about him dealing with the end of the Avengers. The F4 arc takes place at the same time as Disassembled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:15:33 No.95826264 Report

Quoted By: >>95826397

>>95826169
DC has very few 2.99 books left and they come out twice in a month anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:16:12 No.95826287 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826215
Snowflake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:16:31 No.95826293 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824275
The lenticular's the main cover, not a variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:16:36 No.95826295 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826215
I'm not the one that unironically used the word "contrarian" nor am I the one that got booty blasted and just said "f-fuck you!".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:17:56 No.95826321 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826099
yes, cause then I would have only read the first half

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:18:00 No.95826322 Report

Quoted By: >>95826344 >>95826419

>>95826223
>Because several ongoing series tied in to that story.
How? Dissasembled was Avengers story leading into House of M

Still, even IF I count all that you posted, it is less than TEN. In ten years of previous decades. Meanwhile, I mentioned few crossovers in TWO years.

>Avengers Finale then.
It had nothing to do with Disassembled, there was also New Avengers finale as well. So what. There was GLA disassembled, should I count is as part of the event?

Messiah trilogy is a different beast, and it hurts me, because I love it, but it was a long narrative. Dumbing it down to an "event" tier just hurts me.

Anyway, because I want to go outside to have some fun. Let's say that I lost the argument, and you actually are correct. It wasn't easy to name 10 events of the 00s? Because there weren't that much going on in the 00s. Meanwhile, in the past 7 years, we had so much shit going on, that it's mind-boggling and no one is really following it on.

Only in 2018, we will have X-Men/Venom Crossover, Phoenix Resurrection, Avengers event, Infinity War event.

Let that sink for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:19:14 No.95826344 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826322
Oh, I don't count Disassembled. That makes it 9 events of 00s. I'm out, feel free to eviscerate me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:19:23 No.95826348 Report

Quoted By: >>95826377

>>95826215
that you compared AoA to Watchmen. You bet your fucking life I'm triggered. GET OFF MY BOARD!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:19:49 No.95826357 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826099
Marvel legacy 68 pages $5,99
DC Universe Rebirth 80 pages $2,99

Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:20:52 No.95826377 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826348
To be fair, Watchmen are.... ___edgy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:22:10 No.95826397 Report

Quoted By: >>95826479

>>95826264
>>Few

You mean almost every book is 2,99$ the only book thats higher than that is the monthly book and its like 5 or 7 books

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:22:14 No.95826398 Report

Quoted By: >>95826455

>>95825354
I'm trying, but Doom Patrol, Deathstroke, and Mister Miracle are too good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:22:15 No.95826400 Report

Quoted By: >>95826415 >>95826965

>>95824275
>Legacy
>Event

Then i assume Rebirth was an even too, just like All New All Different?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:22:52 No.95826415 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826400
Rebirth was a masterpiece

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:23:01 No.95826419 Report

Quoted By: >>95826465

>>95826322
I never denied there being more going on. I said people have been complaining about events for over a decade, which is true. Civil War is still pretty much the poster child for events that are too much (though I'd say Secret Wars is on a similar level).

Most of the events that you posted were either just glorified storylines (Last Days of Magic) or well-contained events (Monsters Unleashed, Clone Conspiracy).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:24:56 No.95826455 Report

Quoted By: >>95826489

>>95826398
at least you have good taste in superhero comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:25:42 No.95826465 Report

Quoted By: >>95826528 >>95826585

>>95826419
Different anon, to be fair, I think that we will all agree that we miss the times, when the books had their own arcs going on, and more importantly, their own supporting cast. Had anyone noticed that basically the characters appear everywhere? You have Avengers, Spider-Men, X-Men, Inhumans Defenders appearing in every book. Only few years ago, each book had their own cast and it was great. What happened to that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:26:27 No.95826479 Report

Quoted By: >>95826829

>>95826397
>You mean almost every book
Are you retarded? They've gir something like 10 comics at 2.99... out of 70 or so that they publish each month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:26:45 No.95826489 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826455
It's extremely easy to like Doom Patrol and Deathstroke. Mister Miracle, now that's... interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:28:21 No.95826528 Report

Quoted By: >>95826559

>>95826465
It started with Wolverine at Marvel and Batman at DC. It's why I wish Logan had stayed dead for a few more years

At least with Spider-Man he was usually used as a guest star, just show up for an arc and would go again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:29:49 No.95826559 Report

Quoted By: >>95826811

>>95826528
Yeah, fuck Wolverine. And to think that so many people want Wolverine to be back. I remember the jokes, where Wolverine inspired Uncle Ben about Power and Responsibility, or when Wolverine was the truck driver with the chemicals that blinder Matt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:31:31 No.95826585 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826465
Yeah, I totally agree with that. To be honest, I haven't read cape books much since Secret Wars, because I was just burnt out. I feel like there's a middle ground that allows crossovers and single stories both, but they never seem to do it. I like the setup of something like Monsters Unleashed, where all the "tie-ins" are special issues that don't actually impact the main series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:42:40 No.95826811 Report

Quoted By: >>95826822

>>95826559
>want Wolverine to be back
He's already back, bitchbub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:43:20 No.95826822 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826811
Are you happy about that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:43:47 No.95826829 Report

Quoted By: >>95827487

>>95826479
No buddy seriously

Every justice league member's book is 2,99$ JLA ,Nightwing ,GA, Detective comics and Action comics, HQ , TT andT are 2,99$ what left is monthly and it's 3,99$ NOT 4,99$

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:51:09 No.95826965 Report

Quoted By: >>95827050 >>95827079

>>95826400
Rebirth was a reboot where every single book got a new creative team even Batman that had the best art DC can offer aka Capullo. DC understood N52 wasn't going well, the readers didn't like most of it and they did everything to make something better for the readers.

Legacy is the same shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:55:20 No.95827050 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826965
>Legacy is the same shit.
AMEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 17:56:46 No.95827079 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826965
>Legacy is the same shit.
>All the books are largely the same team with only a few new series and team changes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:21:15 No.95827487 Report

Quoted By: >>95827530

>>95826829
>JLA ,Nightwing ,GA, Detective comics and Action comics, HQ , TT andT
So that's 8. 10 with Batman and Superman. So... I was right all along, though I think Titans is now monthly, could be wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:23:34 No.95827530 Report

Quoted By: >>95827583

>>95827487
>I was right all along
no .. no you were not

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:26:37 No.95827583 Report

Quoted By:

>>95827530
explain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:28:39 No.95827611 Report

Quoted By: >>95827687

>>95824006
>#1
Last month, Dark Nights Metal #1 sold 262,000

In July, Dark Days The Casting #1 (DC) - 128,261

In may, when the Lenticular ed and the regular ed of batman #22 added up 186,000 against "the most sold" Secret Empire #1 (157,000)

In April, when both Batman #22 Ed. sold 220,000 against Secret Empire #0 (162,000)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:32:44 No.95827687 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824360
they began a while ago >>95827611

Batowl

Batowl Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:38:14 No.95827793 Report

Quoted By:

Based marvel and DC

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:39:28 No.95827820 Report

Quoted By:

>>95823950
>> 2. DARK NIGHTS: METAL #2 (DC)
>> 4. BATMAN #30 (DC)
>> 5. BATMAN #31 (DC)
>> 6. HARLEY QUINN 25TH-ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL #1 (DC)
>> 8. BATMAN: THE RED DEATH #1 (DC)
>> 9. BATMAN: THE MURDER MACHINE #1 (DC)
>> 10. ACTION COMICS #987 LENTICULAR EDITION (DC)
Our lucky number, always.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:49:39 No.95828034 Report

Quoted By: >>95828330

>>95823950
> 1. MARVEL LEGACY #1 (MAR)

DCucks BTFO. Comeback begins here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 18:56:09 No.95828173 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826129
Fair enough. I just expect more from you guys, you know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:00:52 No.95828285 Report

Quoted By: >>95828333 >>95828335

>>95824900
>Marvel has basically incentivized/fostered trade waiting
But Marvel's trades sell like shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:01:55 No.95828307 Report

Quoted By: >>95828318 >>95829578

>>95824383
Every thing on netflix is 1000 times better then arrow. You have to be retard to think cw shows are any good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:02:24 No.95828318 Report

Quoted By:

>>95828307
Or 12yrs old

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:02:35 No.95828325 Report

Quoted By:

>>95823950
Yes, I've seen all those "sold" Marvel Legacy #1s sitting in giant unsold piles on the shelves of comic books stores. Diamond's figures are total nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:02:48 No.95828330 Report

Quoted By: >>95828404

>>95828034
Buddy it's no.1 because it cost 5,99$ and it's the only Marvel book in the top ten

so keep eating your shit quietly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:02:55 No.95828333 Report

Quoted By:

>>95828285
They print a load of stuff each year, but only once, and then fuck you for not buying it immediately

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:03:00 No.95828335 Report

Quoted By:

>>95828285
that anon is an idiot. Image is the top seller of trades, followed by DC. I assume even Dark Horse would outsell Marvel in trades/graphic novels cause Dark Horse does very high quality omnibus's and stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:06:19 No.95828404 Report

Quoted By: >>95829566

>>95828330
>it's #1 because it's so expensive
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:19:36 No.95828674 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824332

>Name ONE successful DC show not on CW
So you admit that DC win
>Name ONE DC cartoon other than TTG
So you admit that TTG win
>Name ONE other DC video game coming out this year
So you admit that Arkhan series won
Cherrypicking because otherwise DC btfo Marvel, also outdated graphics

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:35:19 No.95828960 Report

Quoted By: >>95829371

>>95824332
>Name ONE successful DC show not on CW
preacher, normies like it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:36:21 No.95828984 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824332
>Name ONE other DC video game coming out this year
injustice 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:46:53 No.95829187 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824679
>I honestly can't believe people buy Harley Quinn comics, they're pretty bad.

She's deadpool but she isn't selling so much now, usually 38Ks, September however was her 25th anniversay and all those people watched Suicide Squad, normies bought that special. DC managed to print something couldn't offend the normies while gave some fags fanservice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 19:56:14 No.95829371 Report

Quoted By: >>95829559

>>95828960
>preacher, normies like it
i mean....if they are only watching it for Cassidy I can understand. But there isn't any other reason to watch it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:05:03 No.95829529 Report

Quoted By: >>95829560 >>95832738

>>95823950
>OVERSHIPPING

How long can Marvel do this gimmick till papa disney comes knocking on the door?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:06:39 No.95829559 Report

Quoted By:

>>95829371
Cass is so fucking good.

The rest of the show had some serious promise, but season 2 dragged on like crazy. I don't even care about the changes to the source... I just wish it had fucking done something. Also the Arseface storyline is legitimately retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:06:55 No.95829560 Report

Quoted By: >>95829690

>>95829529
I think the bigger threat is retailers having a mutiny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:07:21 No.95829566 Report

Quoted By: >>95829780

>>95828404
learn to read, he said that is because is a number 1 issue, number 1 issues always sell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:08:06 No.95829578 Report

Quoted By: >>95829798

>>95828307
Arrow and Flash are fun superhero shows. Netflix stuff is edgy political comedy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:13:21 No.95829690 Report

Quoted By:

>>95829560
I think that is part of the issue.

The major power here is still Disney, if they decide to move ship to Calli instead of NY they have an excuse to clean house. Which is probably the reason Marvel is so fucking desperate. They could all lose their jobs if they moved.

This is why they have to gimmick their way to create "fake" success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:17:48 No.95829780 Report

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>>95829566
It literally says "it's no.1 because it cost 5,99$"

Don't jump into defend another anon if you're not going to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:18:50 No.95829798 Report

Quoted By: >>95829938

>>95829578
>Marvel Netflix
>edgy political comedy
what are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:25:17 No.95829905 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824672
>I vaguely remember this. Please remind me.
At work so I don't have the link handy but basically it was around the same time as the "diversity is why we're not selling comics" thing. Basically Marvel (through a sychophant retailer mouthpiece) made some defense against unreturnable books saying how it harmed them. My LCS owner (Rick Shea) actually wrote a piece in response on BC blowing that fuck out of the water along with Marvel's entire failed business strategy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:26:50 No.95829938 Report

Quoted By: >>95830333

>>95829798
punisher and daredevil had almost an entire episode debating politics of crime fighting. Why that anon thinks that's bad is beyond me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:29:13 No.95829989 Report

Quoted By: >>95830563

What numbers Legacy will have? Will it outsell Rebirth #1?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:37:02 No.95830178 Report

Quoted By: >>95830371 >>95830479 >>95830578 >>95830637

wait, how come this post says viz is the biggest market share?

https://twitter.com/Comixace/status/916041619752730624

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:43:52 No.95830333 Report

Quoted By:

>>95829938
That's not political comedy though, nor is it edgy.
And yeah, it was the best episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:45:46 No.95830371 Report

Quoted By:

>>95830178
Fake news

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:49:43 No.95830479 Report

Quoted By: >>95830699

>>95830178
wow, that is the shittiest math I have ever scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:53:06 No.95830563 Report

Quoted By: >>95830986 >>95834738

>>95829989
Legacy has a very simple numbering system. As you know, Legacy starts off by taking us back to the original numbers. Then, on Oct. 11, the various books will switch over to "Legacy Numbers" -- the original number MINUS whatever number the books were at under the New-new system. That is, until the Phoenix returns. Then "Legacy Numbers" become "Rising Dark Legacy Numbers" -- which will be assigned according to the number of letters used in each panel of the new Amadeus Cho book, Super Genius With No Real Problems, which will be on shelves early Nov. with 12 lenticular variants. Then, in December, all Marvel numbering will revert back to the pre-Legacy numbers, until the numbers are replaced by "Secret Legacy" colors. Finally, on Dec. 13, all future Marvel books will be assigned one number, probably #18... forever.

Hope that clears it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:53:41 No.95830578 Report

Quoted By:

>>95830178
"book channel", so trades for bookstores and such, not direct to market monthly comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:56:38 No.95830637 Report

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>>95830178
Book channel, as in books sold at bookstores

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 20:59:25 No.95830699 Report

Quoted By: >>95830724

>>95830479
Wow, that is the shittiest grammar I've ever seen!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 21:00:36 No.95830724 Report

Quoted By: >>95830981

>>95830699
>one spelling error
>shittiest grammar you've ever seen
Good one, mate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 21:12:23 No.95830981 Report

Quoted By: >>95831080

>>95830724
If we're gonna be autists about it, it also doesn't have the proper capitalization at the start.

But the thing is that it's just a joke, because he made fun of the maths while making a pretty awful spelling mistake. You know jokes, don't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 21:12:32 No.95830986 Report

Quoted By:

>>95830563
kek, I appreciate the work you put into this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 21:17:22 No.95831080 Report

Quoted By: >>95831645

>>95830981
people use the grammer of the social media they are on. Do you use 'kek' on facebook (if you use that shitty site)? Or for another example, do you speak the same to your coworkers, your family and your bar-friends. No. I drop some grammar and spelling when on this site. Is it a good practice? Probably not, but in the sake of speed I do.

I'm not sure if I consider myself more of a math person or not, but the math in that twitter really triggers me cause A) no source B) doesn't add to any number that means anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 21:39:57 No.95831602 Report

Quoted By:

>>95824525
Disney had to literally force ABC to renew AoS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 21:42:39 No.95831645 Report

Quoted By:

>>95831080
>Autism alert

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 22:32:54 No.95832738 Report

Quoted By:

>>95829529
>what are discounts for X copies ordered by a retailer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 22:42:56 No.95833016 Report

Quoted By:

>>95826106
>Hell, I think Onslaught Saga holds up better as far as X-related 90s events.

Opinion discarded. Say what you will about AoA, but it's objectively better than that trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2017 23:52:56 No.95834738 Report

Quoted By:

>>95830563
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2017 01:03:19 No.95836641 Report

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Bump

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2017 01:54:00 No.95837903 Report

Quoted By: >>95837934

>>95824714
Last month's Top 300 Numbers for Marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 07 Oct 2017 01:55:04 No.95837934 Report

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>>95837903
Give a few more for DC with the Hanna Barbera books and Vertigo

Anonymous

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>>95823950
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