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Batman: The Animated Series

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 20:05:21 2017 No.95540353 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>95540399 >>95540862 >>95541380 >>95543434 >>95543914 >>95544725 >>95546065 >>95546136 >>95546284 >>95546555 >>95546738 >>95548398 >>95549067 >>95551932 >>95553290 >>95554533 >>95557283

Does this show still hold? Can it be enjoyed by an adult?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:06:14 No.95540374 Report

Quoted By: >>95541205 >>95541373 >>95543170 >>95545759

It's overall fine but you can't marathon it because at least 40% of the episodes are dogshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:07:33 No.95540399 Report

Quoted By: >>95540575 >>95544370 >>95549236 >>95549396 >>95557282

>>95540353
It's good but Batman Beyond and Justice League are waaay better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:10:12 No.95540459 Report

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yeah. It's still good on the whole

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:17:17 No.95540575 Report

Quoted By: >>95540776

>>95540399
>Batman Beyond
Hell god baby damn no.
>Justice League
It's really different. Hard to compare.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:27:34 No.95540776 Report

Quoted By: >>95541311 >>95549294 >>95549405

>>95540575
Terry was a badass, he was swimming in pussy throughout the entire show, he got an entirely original rouges gallery all to his own, all of which were awesome, the show had wonderful continuity with BTAS while having better animation and design work, and the show was WAY more violent and lethal than any other WB cartoon show.

By the time they got to Justice League all of the crew were in top form as story tellers, especially by season three, the whole Cadmus arc.

BTAS will always be more recognized for basically revolutionizing western animation, but the shows they did after just kept getting better.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:31:42 No.95540862 Report

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>>95540353
The Batman is better in so many ways it's ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:38:31 No.95540974 Report

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>>95540862
Can you just stop? It's embarrassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:48:04 No.95541175 Report

Quoted By: >>95544156 >>95544286

>>95540862
It's massively underrated because it followed directly after B:TAS, but better? Please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:49:08 No.95541205 Report

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>>95540374
>at least 40% of the episodes are dogshit
Maybe, but the episodes that were good were god-tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:54:00 No.95541311 Report

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>>95540776
>badass
Really? Bruce always had more charisma.
> he was swimming in pussy throughout the entire show
How is that an argument? Also the romance with ten is a fucking waste.
>an entirely original rouges gallery all to his own
No way near BTAS level. And it's usually some copy paste of BATS ones.
>better animation
i agree
>design work
Thats your taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:57:18 No.95541373 Report

Quoted By: >>95544338

>>95540374
Just because not every episode was Heart Of Ice doesn't mean they were also Batman In My Basement-tier

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Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:57:35 No.95541380 Report

Quoted By: >>95543170 >>95543197 >>95544019 >>95544264

>>95540353
Short Answer: Yes.
Long Answer: The artwork aged spectacularly and the voice actors were top notch. The stories tend to drop from time to time, but the better stories are excellent.

Superman is better, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 20:59:45 No.95541420 Report

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It's good, has some really great episodes. If you can deal with some silly episodes throw into the midst, give it a go. Watch the movies, and Beyond afterwards too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 22:24:39 No.95543170 Report

Quoted By: >>95543216 >>95543323 >>95543877 >>95544245 >>95544556 >>95545950

>>95540374
>at least 40% of the episodes are dogshit.
>>95541380
>The stories tend to drop from time to time

Is there a guide or something about what the most essential to watch episodes are?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 22:25:36 No.95543197 Report

Quoted By: >>95557268

>>95541380
>superman is better
Fuck off, the show was as good as the N64 Game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 22:26:33 No.95543216 Report

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>>95543170
Just watch like 2-5 minutes of an episode and you can generally tell how it's going to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 22:32:08 No.95543323 Report

Quoted By: >>95543877

>>95543170
Every villains origin episode is pretty well done.
The ninja one.
Mask of the Phantasm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 22:37:10 No.95543434 Report

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>>95540353
I have had the desire to marathon the entire thing
How do I go about doing so?
Any site that actually has the entire series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 22:38:57 No.95543466 Report

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its good until season 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:01:47 No.95543877 Report

Quoted By: >>95543920 >>95543936

>>95543170
>>95543323
the episodes where all the major villains meet is my fav

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:03:33 No.95543914 Report

Quoted By: >>95543953

>>95540353
I watched a few early episodes recently and I still liked it. Dunno how much of that is the nostalgia though. I loved this so much as a kid when it was airing on Fox 11.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:04:10 No.95543920 Report

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>>95543877
When they play cards and Batman is undercover? yea it's one of the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:05:00 No.95543936 Report

Quoted By: >>95543992

>>95543877
Soooo (and this is from memory) Almost Got Him, The Trial aaaand...the one with Hugo Strange?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:05:50 No.95543953 Report

Quoted By: >>95543973 >>95544245

>>95543914
Is it true that each episode were cut by commercials?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:06:52 No.95543973 Report

Quoted By: >>95544245

>>95543953
was*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:07:46 No.95543992 Report

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>>95543936
was thinking the first one, but The Trial was great too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:09:23 No.95544019 Report

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>>95541380
Superman feels more contemporary,and the characters are written/acted far more naturally. BTAS is by no means dated or immature, but there is so growing pains that come from jumping out of the era of cheesy 80's action cartoons to something more nuanced. The acting is a bit more melodramatic and stilted. I think thats why the post STAS shows resonate a lot more with /co/'s younger audience.

The sow as a whole is pretty great but I think a lot of it is more enjoyable from an aesthetic standpoint than just storywise, like the Fleischer Superman cartoons. While theres great episodes, the standalone quality somewhat hurts it from feeling like a whole, and you don't get the satisfaction of seeing things build up over arcs, and the few arcs there are aren't particularly notable. Still, one of the best Batman adaptations, and one of the few "pure" ones since they were drawing mainly from the comics, not mixing in the movies(besides superficial things like Penguin/Catwoman's designs) or other animation or video games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:15:44 No.95544156 Report

Quoted By: >>95547177

>>95541175
It’s not even the most underrated, that’s Beware the Batman. TB is just...there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:20:42 No.95544244 Report

Quoted By: >>95544277 >>95544453

it's SUPER hit and miss.

The good episodes(baby doll, heart of ice, mad love, etc) are fucking incredible, but a huge portion of episodes are 'just okay' or godawful shit like 'batman in my basement'.

I feel that batman beyond, while never getting AS good as BTAS, maintains a far more consistent quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:20:42 No.95544245 Report

Quoted By: >>95544401

>>95543953
>>95543973

What do you mean, exactly?

>>95543170

Yeah, there are tons of lists out there on BTAS, but honestly I think most of it is worth watching.

There are some "BEST OF" lists that put some really lame episodes in there, and then some "WORST OF" lists that write out some great episodes (I remember seeing Baby Doll on a couple of "worst episodes" lists, and that's just a crime). So really, you're better off just watching it yourself. Some episodes are great all the way through, some start great and end on a weird note, some start out slow but get really good near the end, etc. There's no real way to know how much you'll like it until you give it a go.

Watch the first 15 episodes or so, at least, without skipping.

If you like what you're seeing, you'll enjoy the rest. If not, you can drop the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:21:55 No.95544264 Report

Quoted By: >>95545957

>>95541380
>the artwork aged spectacularly
it really didn't. the hand-drawn nature is especially evident if you ever look in the backgrounds and see just how many still images there are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:22:32 No.95544277 Report

Quoted By: >>95544368

>>95544244
>I feel that batman beyond, while never getting AS good as BTAS, maintains a far more consistent quality.

Definitely. I actually honestly think beyond goes above and beyond BTAS, but that's just my personal preference. It's undeniable that the quality is consistently good, and never dips into silly territory like BTAS usually did. It has a much more consistent tone.

Also Return of the Joker is on par if not better than Mask of the Phantasm, two 10/10 films.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:23:11 No.95544286 Report

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>>95540862
>>95541175
See, I watched both but I liked B:TAS more, but I'm honestly not sure if it's a matter of personal taste, actual quality or just me nostalgia-fagging for B:TAS.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:24:29 No.95544311 Report

Quoted By: >>95545085

I think the worst villain portrayed on the show was Penguin. Chalk that up with writers not knowing what to do with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:25:53 No.95544338 Report

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>>95541373
What about 'Heart of Steel' and 'His Silicon Soul'?
And, frankly, I loved any episode that had Clayface in it.

I honestly think that series made Clayface and Riddler my favorite Batman villains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:27:17 No.95544368 Report

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>>95544277
eeeh...the good parts of return are the death of the joker and the climax. mask is consistently good and made me actually LIKE bruce wayne.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:27:18 No.95544370 Report

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>>95540399
Justice league:
"OH GOD MY HEADACHE"
"Raaaaa I'm gonna ignore you because fuckin angry"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:28:43 No.95544401 Report

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>>95544245
>seeing Baby Doll on a couple of "worst episodes" lists
No fucking way. I refuse to believe it.

BTAS was great. Yea, you have shit episodes, but the series were great. batman, Alfred, and a few villains that were less "criminally insane" and more "utterly broken people". Mad Hatter, Baby Doll, Mr. Freeze... they were like walking ebmbodiments of "shit happens" and life had trounced them. And fuck that contrarian stuff, it was great. Not everybody must be jokertime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:31:51 No.95544453 Report

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>>95544244
That seems fair, actually. Its high notes were never quite as high as BTAS, but its low notes were also never as low. Plus, I liked the Hunter.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:34:38 No.95544499 Report

Quoted By: >>95544613

I'd like to remind everyone that BTAS had the only good Mad Hatter, sadly. I'm tired of Jervis getting shit on by writers, he can be both a legitimate threat and a heartbreaking metaphor for escapism. But no, he's often written as a weird pedophile with a serious hat fetish

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:38:41 No.95544556 Report

Quoted By: >>95553239

>>95543170
Yeah, it's called 'don't listen to nitpicking neckbeards on /co/, just watch every episode and enjoy yourself'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:41:45 No.95544613 Report

Quoted By: >>95544803

>>95544499
jervis seemed to age horribly during BTAS

in his first ep he's like late 20s/early 30s

when we see him in the episode he's hiding out as a clown he looks like an old man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:48:07 No.95544725 Report

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>>95540353
I'd say so but I find it weaker than JLU and BB. Hell a lot better than STAS though. Also Dick in this is a complete waste of time and space
>New Adventures of Batman and Robin
>just shows Robin on his motorcycle since he had no cools scenes
>never does anything
>whiny and bitchy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:52:12 No.95544803 Report

Quoted By: >>95544897

>>95544613
Was that in season 4? Because a lot of characters got a horrible makeover during that final season. Jervis became a damn gremlin

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Sep 2017 23:56:52 No.95544897 Report

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>>95544803
yeah the clown one was after the redesign

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:06:09 No.95545085 Report

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>>95544311
Absolutely not.
The worst handled character was objectively Catwoman and you can chalk that up to Sean Derek's mishandling of the character. They also butchered Hugo Strange.
While Oswald did have an abysmal introduction episode and conceptual complications, TAS Penguin is still one of the best versions. They quickly redeemed themselves with Birds Of A Feather (one of the best episodes) and he still made great appearences in episodes like Almost Got Im and Second Chance.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:36:40 No.95545759 Report

Quoted By: >>95548952 >>95549620

>>95540374
The "dogshit" episodes that people generally agree to be terrible in TAS are: Batman In My Basement, The Underdwellers, Cape and Cowl Conspiracy, any episode Sean Derek was involved in (POV, The Forgotten, Prophecy of Doom, and the 4 Catwoman episodes she wrote), Lock-Up, Tyger Tyger, The Terrible Trio and Moon of the Wolf. And let's add The Mechanic and Christmas With The Joker while we are at it because people don't seem to like those episodes either.

That's 16 "dogshit" episodes. In a series of 85 episodes. That isn't even enough to reach 20% of the total series.

I'm not saying TAS was perfect (no one is) but it seems like you and plenty others in this thread are overblowing the amount of bad episodes to make the series seem worse than it really was. Not surprising because every mention of TAS in /co/ is immediately followed by autists like >>95540862 coming out of the woodwork to complain about [insert any other Batman or DC cartoon] is better and how TAS was overrated dogshit that clubbed their dog to death with the Heart of Ice Emmy, usually using this same argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:40:43 No.95545852 Report

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u5Cdguyut8s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:44:55 No.95545950 Report

Quoted By: >>95546032 >>95546259 >>95546415 >>95546441 >>95549590 >>95555259

>>95543170

Personal list:

Essentials:

Two Face, Part 1 and 2
Heart of Ice
Beware the Gray Ghost
Feat of Clay, Part 1 and 2
Joker's Favor
Vendetta
The Clock King
Perchance to Dream
Robin's Reckoning, Part 1 and 2
Night of the Ninja
If You're So Smart, Why Aren't You Rich?
Almost Got 'Im
Birds of a Feather
The Man Who Killed Batman
The Demon's Quest, part 1 and 2
His Silicon Soul
Baby Doll
Showdown
Harley's Holiday
Mask of the Phantasm

Recommended:

On Leather Wings
Nothing to Fear
The Last Laugh
Pretty Poison
P.O.V.
Be a Clown
It's Never Too Late
Fear of Victory
Appointment at Crime Alley
Mad As a Hatter
Dreams in Darkness
The Laughing Fish
Heart of Steel, part 1 and 2
Joker's Wild
Day of the Samurai
Terror in the Sky
I am the Night
Mudslide
Paging the Crime Doctor
Zatanna
Harley and Ivy
Shadow of the Bat, part 1 and 2
Read My Lips
Sideshow
A Bullet for Bullock
Trial
Harleyquinade
Time Out of Joint
Bane
Riddler's Return
Second Chance
Deep Freeze
Batgirl Returns
Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero

Mixed bag but worth watching:

Christmas with the Joker
The Forgotten
Eternal Youth
What is Reality?
The Mechanic
Avatar
Time Out of Joint
Lock Up
Make 'Em Laugh

Ehhh...

The Cat and Claw, Part 1 and 2
See No Evil
The Cape and Cowl Conspiracy
The Strange Secret of Bruce Wayne
Moon of the Wolf
Off Balance
Blind as a Bat
Fire from Olympus
House & Garden
Catwalk
The Lion and the Unicorn

Completionists only:

The Underdwellers
I've Got Batman in My Basement
Prophecy of Doom
Cat Scratch Fever
Tyger Tyger
The Worry Men
The Terrible Trio

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:45:22 No.95545957 Report

Quoted By: >>95545986

>>95544264
Reread your post and please tell me if you can see whats wrong woth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:46:44 No.95545986 Report

Quoted By: >>95546092

>>95545957
the art is hand drawn and the backgrounds are stilted and shitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:49:03 No.95546032 Report

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>>95545950
Good list, though I really like Fire from Olympus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:50:57 No.95546065 Report

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>>95540353
It's still good. I still view this characterization as THE Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:52:38 No.95546092 Report

Quoted By: >>95546127 >>95546312

>>95545986
There you go, theres an actual complaint instead of "the backgrounds are still images" like in literally every fucking thing ever.
Now tell us why they feel stilted and shitty other than "they are".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:54:12 No.95546127 Report

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>>95546092
they're incredibly jarring compared to the generally smooth foreground animations.

You can also notice just how inactive most scenes are, with only one or two details actually moving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 00:54:38 No.95546136 Report

Quoted By: >>95546312

>>95540353
It's still good, but the animation is definitely dated.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:01:56 No.95546259 Report

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>>95545950
I agree with most of these but I think Blind As A Bat is a great episode.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:02:50 No.95546277 Report

Quoted By: >>95546426

One thing I really enjoy about TAS is that it was made before Kevin Conroy started phoning it in. You wouldn't know it from the way he does Batman in his later work, where he uses the same monotone voice for everything, but back in TAS, he played Bruce Wayne and Batman as two entirely distinct characters. Bruce actually came off like the wealthy, carefree socialite he's trying to appear to be, and Batman came off like the gritty, frightening living shadow he wanted criminals to think he was (without going into full Christian Bale territory). I guess you could chalk that up to TAS being comparatively early in his career, though- maybe by the time JLU rolls around, he's pretty much given up on maintaining two identities.

Also, one thing you're going to notice about TAS is that the action is much, much slower. It's not just that TAS is a show with less conflict- the more detailed nature of the show's art direction and the stricter Standards & Practices meant that for a show ostensibly about a crimefighting superhero, there just wasn't much actual fighting compared to the shows you see today. No long, drawn out fight scenes, no choreography- just a couple of simple punches, maybe he throws a Batarang, and it's all over. It's not bad, per se, but it's definitely different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:03:28 No.95546284 Report

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>>95540353

Batman TAS and Mask of the Phantasm are simply fantastic. They still hold up. They are brilliant.
The music too, is brilliant.

To me, the batman and robin theme is THE batman theme.
It captures the heroism and tragedy of the character best.

For me, it is the standard setter.

If you haven't watched it already, I'd strongly suggest watching it.
It might be worth asking people to name the best episodes and watching that and then branching out from there, some are more "tv" than others.

This show had a massive impact on me growing up and I feel that maybe todays youth are at a disadvantage because they don't have a show like this to introduce them to such serious and mature themes.

p.s

Another important thing to remember about this series is that "boy wonder" was actually depicted as a serious and interesting character. He was actually pretty cool. He was his own man, with his own problems, who eventually went his own way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:04:37 No.95546312 Report

Quoted By: >>95548793

>>95546092
Not to be that guy but they just are. You're asking why blue is blue, and why blue is different from red. It just is. The backgrounds are a different artistic style than the foreground. I like the contrast, some don't, but to pretend it doesn't exist is idiotic.

>>95546136
I think it's possible to be dated while also being timeless. They have a very clear and strong art-deco style in the show, but their consistency with that actually helps to make it more timeless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:09:51 No.95546415 Report

Quoted By: >>95546722 >>95549423

>>95545950
no Mad Love?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:10:30 No.95546426 Report

Quoted By: >>95546563

>>95546277
>he's pretty much given up on maintaining two identities.
I think it's more of a problem with the scripts themselves and not Conroy.
He's not being allowed to make the distinction anymore because the scripts call for a constant serious Batman and they forget Bruce Wayne is supposed to be an act.
TAS had moments of levity that allowed the Bruce Wayne persona to come through naturally, and it made for some pretty great moments like at the end of Second Chance or in the "I didn't plan on being happy" scene from Phantasm where he just talks normally, neither as phony socialite Wayne or grim and tough Batman.

Compare it to Arkham where his job is to basically mumble and grunt his way across levels and you see how restricted he's become.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:11:07 No.95546441 Report

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>>95545950

Pretty much brilliant assessment of the series, but, even the "ehh" category contains some brilliant stuff.

Really shows you how powerful this series was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:16:26 No.95546555 Report

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>>95540353
I watched it for the first time as an adult and I did so "yes"

I didn't binge it though. It's a show that I enjoyed one or two episodes of before going to bed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:16:45 No.95546563 Report

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>>95546426

I see it more as a less is more style of being bruce wayne. Bruce wayne isn't a bad guy, just kind of reserved and a bit of a stiff. Maybe a little goofy and too polite. He won't have an answer for everything etc.

Batman has an answer for everything. Even if he doesn't know what's going on. He's got a level of self confidence and cynicism that Bruce doesn't really express.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:23:54 No.95546722 Report

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>>95546415

I just did the BTAS episodes and not the TNBA; partly because I haven't seen those as much as the earlier ones and partly because of the massive shift in art and tone.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:24:33 No.95546738 Report

Quoted By: >>95546817

>>95540353
>Does this show still hold? Can it be enjoyed by an adult?
Only the first season. Seasons two and three are downhill, and season four is a very mixed bag.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:28:09 No.95546817 Report

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>>95546738
>Only the first season. Seasons two and three are downhill

A lot of 90s cartoons, even the best ones, had the problem of having great 1st seasons but going downhill afterwards. I suppose the constant threat of cancellation made them put in all their A-game early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 01:44:19 No.95547177 Report

Quoted By: >>95554510

>>95544156
BtB is massively underrated too. I wish there had been more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 02:48:26 No.95548398 Report

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>>95540353

The New Adventures hasn't aged too good for me, feels pretty bleh after a few episodes in but Nightwing is still cool to see.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 02:57:59 No.95548608 Report

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Yes to both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:04:38 No.95548793 Report

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>>95546312
I don't mean the animation style, but the animation itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:09:12 No.95548952 Report

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>>95545759
>The Forgotten
>bad
What?
I thought it was pretty decent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjFRF6Li_Wo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:12:38 No.95549067 Report

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>>95540353
Yes. It had a lot of really polished gems like "Perchance to Dream," "Almost Got 'im" and "Joker's Favor."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:16:55 No.95549236 Report

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>>95540399
t. Child

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:18:27 No.95549294 Report

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>>95540776
>this show was good because the hero was a mary sue i could self-insert as and feel cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:21:12 No.95549396 Report

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>>95540399
Batman beyond sucks, though. And so does JL season 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:21:30 No.95549405 Report

Quoted By: >>95549465 >>95553478

>>95540776
I enjoyed the fuck out of Beyond...but let’s face it. He had Spider-Man’s rogues gallery for the most part.

Stalker = Kraven
Spellbinder = Mysterio
Shriek = Shocker

Sure he has some stand out originals, but he Terry was a bit Spider-Bat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:22:02 No.95549423 Report

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>>95546415
The comic version came first and was superior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:23:23 No.95549465 Report

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>>95549405
The only Beyond villains worth a shit were Blight and Inque, the former dead after Season 1 and the latter appearing too little to matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:26:31 No.95549590 Report

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>>95545950
I liked "Off Balance". The final fight with Count Vertigo was interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:27:29 No.95549620 Report

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>>95545759
I think it's perfect, every episode is awesome. You guys are just little bitches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:31:43 No.95549756 Report

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>>95549620
*except batman in my basement
FTFY

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:54:10 No.95550568 Report

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>>95549756
After google no it, I've realized I've never seen that one. I was thinking of the one where the black guy is talking to Batman and says something about the basement, and it tips Batman off that he's in trouble.

I may have seen it when i was really young, because I vaguely remember Batman being out of commission in someone's house, but it's mostly a blank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 03:57:25 No.95550671 Report

Quoted By: >>95552965 >>95553004 >>95556818

You notice how most of the poorer episodes were Penguin-centric?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 04:36:13 No.95551932 Report

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>>95540353
IMO, yes. This Series was Harley's debut. The episodes with Mad Hatter, Mr Freeze & Two Face are the best. Very few episodes were bad. I picked up all 4 seasons of TAS at costco a while back. You won't regret it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 05:11:21 No.95552965 Report

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>>95550671

Going by the production book, Fox hit the staff with a lot of requirements for Penguin that they actively resented more some of the other network meddling.

TNBA Penguin was much closer to what they actually wanted to do with the character from the start but weren't allowed to.

Not that I think they deliberately set out to make bad episodes with the Penguin, just that they weren't really comfortable with using him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 05:12:45 No.95553004 Report

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>>95550671
Him and Catwoman. You could tell they weren't too thrilled about using them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 05:20:48 No.95553239 Report

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>>95544556
>don't listen to neckbeards
>advocates binge watching television

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 05:23:05 No.95553290 Report

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>>95540353
>Does this show still hold? Can it be enjoyed by an adult?

My dad hates all cartoons, but one of the few he could enjoy were Batman TAS (because it was significantly more serious than everything else at the time) and Swat Kats (he loved the high-tech jet and the gadgets).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 05:23:54 No.95553311 Report

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>>95553004
Well, Batman Returns was still very recent and putting them at the center of attention. FOX wanted that cross-marketing from Penguin and Catwoman, even going so far as to have them look like their movie selves.

To be fair, though, Not-Michelle Catwoman looked a hell of a lot better than the drowned zombie she became in TNBA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 05:29:53 No.95553478 Report

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>>95549405
I liked the new royal flush gang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 06:15:35 No.95554510 Report

Quoted By: >>95555381 >>95556792

>>95547177
It's frustrating, because it was the closest to get to B:TAS in terms of tone. I liked the gloomyness of it and the minimalism of the flashy gadgets, in favor of focusing more on detective cases and character arcs.

The things that really fucked it over (besides CN shitting on DC cartoons that aren't TTGo) are WBA's insistence on CGI, which killed a lot of the atmosphere, and the unrealistic guns, which again, killed a lot of the immersion in a show that was otherwise pretty grounded show.

Big "dick" Lenny

Big "dick" Lenny Sun 24 Sep 2017 06:16:53 No.95554533 Report

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>>95540353
I asked myself the same thing, so I picked the episode 'jokers favor' and dove right in.
Damned fine choice, the episode was brilliant. I'd watch it OP

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Big "dick" Lenny Sun 24 Sep 2017 06:47:30 No.95555259 Report

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>>95545950
Why am I the only one that has love for Underdwellers.
This one and heart of Ice are the ONLY episodes that stuck in my mind. I was sad to find the shitty underlord dude or whatever was just a one off little nobody, his shtick was great to me as a kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 06:51:59 No.95555381 Report

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>>95554510
But it had the worst rogue gallery ever created for Batman. Mr. Toad, Cypher, Junkyard Dog, are you fucking kidding me? And even when they actually picked an interesting enemy they found a way to make them boring, like turning Pyg into an eco-terrorist. League of Assassins were the only enemy worth a damn, and I guess I kind of liked Magpie but only for 34 reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 06:53:12 No.95555411 Report

Quoted By: >>95556026

>>95555259
I really liked that episode too and was surprised to find out how much the internet hated it. But I guess Killer Croc already does the Sewer Villain schtick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 07:08:42 No.95555759 Report

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>>95555381
>like turning Pyg into an eco-terrorist

At face value. He and Toad were basically a twisted foil to the usual Batman/Bruce Wayne dynamic. Their concern for animals was an evil version of Bruce's charity. Their second appearance had them use ground-up frogs for their bomb that's supposedly for animals. Their third appearance had little to do with animals and more to just get Toad laid with a furry. Honestly, it would've been better if they had focused more on Pyg being a mad scientist obsessed with turning people into animal freaks.

Killer Croc was pretty cool, and Magpie worked as a villain that was sympathetic, but still vicious and strictly a villain, especially in a age where female villains get pussified and redeemed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 07:25:59 No.95556026 Report

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>>95555259
>>95555411
Same, I think the episode has great pacing and atmosphere. I think most people only dislike it because the staff said it was bad and internet is so insecure they need to always validate their taste relying on others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 08:25:00 No.95556792 Report

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>>95554510

Following The Brave and the Bold didn't do it any favors really; especially since it wasn't too far off from the grim, gritty reboot Batmite was making fun of.

>>95555259

I don't dislike The Underdwellers or any of the episodes I put there at the bottom really; it's just that those episodes didn't really a whole lot that wasn't done in another episode but better as far as I was concerned.

On top of that, there's really not much in there that you lose out on by skipping them since most of them aren't connected in any way to any other story. None of them introduce recurring characters for instance.

The Ehhh... episodes had elements that stood out to me even if I wasn't that big a fan of them.

House & Garden had a particularly creepy sequence of body horror. Fire from Olympus was probably the episode from the show that felt most like a Fleischer Superman short to me.

The bottom list didn't have moments like that for me; I can remember all of the plots but there wasn't anything that particularly wowed me about any of them. Sure, Batman Meets Encyclopedia Brown is a cute idea but not much more than that.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 08:27:42 No.95556818 Report

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>>95550671
>most of the poorer episodes
You mean 2 of them ?
Penguin only "stars" in 5 episodes of the show and 3 of them aren't even really about him. Batman In My Basement could have featured any rogue and it still would have been bad, and The Mechanic just throws him in for the sake of referencing his hijacking of the Batmobile in Batman Returns. Blind As A Bat is a better episode and it is partially based on The Penguin Affair, but it's still not exactly about him, it's about Bruce overcoming a disability. And Almost Got Im juggles 3 other rogues.
Really, the only episode of the show that is about Penguin is Birds Of A Feather. And it's damn good episode. But it's only one.

It seems like they were mostly comfortable letting him make smaller appearences in other storylines (as most writers seem to do these days) rather than giving him spotlight.
People insist it was just because they hated the Batman Returns design but honestly their original plans for Penguin (making him a Norman Bates type who Batman called mama's boy) weren't that great either.
To the point that when they redesigned him in TNBA to fit their previous plans, they consequently stripped him of all personality and relegated him to cameos.

He was great whenever they actually did incorporate him into episodes naturally instead of forcing themselves to do it.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 09:24:28 No.95557268 Report

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>>95543197
Don't say things you can't take back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 09:26:26 No.95557282 Report

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>>95540399
Beyond is different thing all together.

Beyond is great despite premise being "Batman in high school", to this day I do not know how it worked out so well, it should have sucked.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 09:26:26 No.95557283 Report

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>>95540353
Least favorite episode?
For me, it was "The Terrible Trio".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Sep 2017 09:52:25 No.95557436 Report

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>>95555259
I like that episode. seeing alfred handle that kid was fun, and seeing batman get PISSED was also great. But i love it most for

>Here! Take my hand!

>NEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!

>*gets eaten by crocodiles*

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