/co/ - Comics & Cartoons » Thread #93585106

1MiB, 2000x1521, 4395971-secret_wars_001.jpg

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 02:47:45 2017 No.93585106 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>93585125 >>93585131 >>93585299 >>93585407 >>93585853 >>93586031 >>93586113 >>93587721 >>93588104 >>93588523 >>93590859 >>93591693

Is Jonathan Hickman the best writer in comics today?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 02:48:54 No.93585125 Report

Quoted By: >>93587797

>>93585106
fuck no, he doesn't even know what human emotion is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 02:49:21 No.93585131 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585106
by default, yes

mr zedex

mr zedex Sun 02 Jul 2017 02:51:20 No.93585174 Report

Quoted By:

preffer the first version of secret wars :v

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 02:57:06 No.93585299 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585106
he was good enough, a real ot miss guy who missed snd hit hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 02:59:21 No.93585361 Report

Quoted By: >>93585853

Comics as in cape comics? Probably.
Comics as in the entire medium? Definitely not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 03:01:10 No.93585407 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585106
if secret wars had actually looked like that image, and post-secret wars actually had repaired the marvel universe, instead of doubling down on the sjw bullshit, yes. yes he would be the best.

but that didn't happen, so he's just pretty good. better than anything marvel has now for sure though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 03:17:55 No.93585853 Report

Quoted By: >>93586170 >>93586213

>>93585106
Lapham, Brubaker and Ennis are still writing. Ellis would be there as well if he was doing any longer runs without a lot of delays. And those are just the mainstream writers.

>>93585361
He doesn't even write Cape comics now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 03:24:10 No.93585981 Report

Quoted By:

Not even close.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 03:26:20 No.93586031 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585106
I loved his fantastic four run

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 03:29:40 No.93586113 Report

Quoted By: >>93586140

>>93585106
Did they ever explain what happened to superior ironman during secret wars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 03:30:53 No.93586140 Report

Quoted By: >>93586988

>>93586113
Nigga he ded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 03:32:12 No.93586170 Report

Quoted By: >>93589391

>>93585853
Brubaker's boring as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 03:34:12 No.93586213 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585853
>He doesn't even write Cape comics now.
Yeah, now he's writing sci-fi.
He's fun, but he still writes nothing but vapid cape and genre fiction-tier shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:06:01 No.93586988 Report

Quoted By: >>93594328

>>93586140
Yeh but how

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:10:26 No.93587107 Report

Quoted By: >>93587183

Loved his whole marvel run and stand as the best capeshit run.

But i know that i'm absolutely biased because i hoped in the train with him and when he finished Secret Wars i stopped giving a fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:13:21 No.93587183 Report

Quoted By: >>93587580 >>93589249 >>93589391

>>93587107
Secret Wars was absolutely horrendous, the last good thing Hickman did was his Fantastic Four run.

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO 1497775833196.png, 50KiB, 255x204

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:14:51 No.93587224 Report

Quoted By:

It was all worth it because of his Fantastic Four run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:30:01 No.93587580 Report

Quoted By: >>93589880

>>93587183
secret wars was bad, but all the avengers books he did leading up to that were great, fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:35:01 No.93587721 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585106
is he even still writing

none of your vanity projects please

what serious publisher is carrying regular material from this former author

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO file.png, 614KiB, 597x597

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:36:10 No.93587750 Report

Quoted By: >>93587831 >>93587989

Hickman fucked up by not including The Beyonder in his run, the entity was vital on his whole stuff and the fact that he never made an appearance was reallly odd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:37:30 No.93587797 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585125
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:37:35 No.93587799 Report

Quoted By: >>93587837

If Marvel had any fucking sense they would've given him a raise to stay with them to write a Black Panther solo w/Ribic art

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:39:10 No.93587831 Report

Quoted By: >>93587855

>>93587750
the aliens who created everything in his run were the beyonders, idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:39:23 No.93587837 Report

Quoted By: >>93587907

>>93587799
>Hickman Black Panther solo w/Ribic art
Why must you hurt me like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:40:25 No.93587855 Report

Quoted By:

>>93587831
I know that that's why i made the distiction of The Beyonder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:43:07 No.93587907 Report

Quoted By:

>>93587837
If you'd like to hurt yourself even more, read Coates' dogshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:46:12 No.93587989 Report

Quoted By:

>>93587750
>everyone is retarded dicks
It was standard modern Marvel in pretty packaging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:50:58 No.93588104 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585106
If he gets the Legion of Super Heroes he will be

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 04:53:57 No.93588178 Report

Quoted By: >>93588362

Say what you will about Hickman but Avengers/New Avengers was the most fun I've ever had reading Marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 05:01:52 No.93588362 Report

Quoted By: >>93588410

>>93588178
You must not have read much Marvel then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 05:03:24 No.93588410 Report

Quoted By: >>93589153

>>93588362
I've read tons of Marvel. Weekly discussion with /co/ and other forums about what the fuck was going on made Hickman's run really fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 05:08:15 No.93588523 Report

Quoted By: >>93588560

>>93585106
He's has the best ideas. but he's not the best writer. He's not even great.

He's a B+ player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 05:09:46 No.93588560 Report

Quoted By: >>93588631

>>93588523
so, you make him do the plot. who does the writing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 05:12:43 No.93588631 Report

Quoted By:

>>93588560
Me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 05:37:52 No.93589153 Report

Quoted By:

>>93588410
Yeah but shitposting isn't quality otherwise Darkseid Wars is the pinnacle of modern capeshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 05:42:42 No.93589249 Report

Quoted By:

>>93587183
Look, I'm not going to defend the entirety of Secret Wars, but it was a nice send-off to the Fantastic Four since they were going to disappear anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 05:49:28 No.93589391 Report

Quoted By: >>93589576

>>93586170
Oh, right. Hickman is so exciting.
>>93587183
His Fantastic Four was awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 06:00:17 No.93589576 Report

Quoted By: >>93589753 >>93590042

>>93589391
>His Fantastic Four was awful.
Care to explain why? Seriously, Hickman has been the first guy in years to get that Fantastic Four isn't really a superhero team. There's a bunch of issues where there's no requisite fight scene like you see in most other superhero comics.

For what it's worth, I do think his Fantastic Four is better to read in trades than when it came out as single issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 06:08:04 No.93589753 Report

Quoted By: >>93590790

>>93589576
Fantastic Four is inherently character-driven and writing actual characters is Hickman's greatest weakness. Everything feels absolutely unnatural and fake when he even attempts to have humanizing moments. Not that he cares much about that, he prefers to waste time on boring cosmic level-shit that keeps on dragging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 06:14:46 No.93589880 Report

Quoted By:

>>93587580
>all the avengers books he did leading up to that were great
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 06:22:17 No.93590042 Report

Quoted By:

>>93589576
Hickman can't pace a story to save his life. He's good for world building but that only underlines how weak he is on plot (see: every ending he's ever written.)

Haven't read his FF run in ages but I remember him being really bad about team interactions. Which is a bit of an issue for a series that relies on the Swiss Family Robinson/Lost in Space style family adventures. I'd put Claremont's run above Hickman's, to be honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 07:05:50 No.93590790 Report

Quoted By: >>93591610

>>93589753
His FF is the last time his characters were real. For all it's worth, his FF is the best post 2000 FF run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 07:11:19 No.93590859 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585106

Secret Wars was an overrated and unsolicitedly ambitious event supposed to cap that era's Avengers run but instead showed he never really left the Fantastic Four comic that doesn't exist anymore, so I'd say read his FF instead. If you like the trend of event remakes like Civil War II or Secret Umpire you can thank its sales boost as well. Ribic is a great artist but time will vindicate his Thor run as better.

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO file.png, 606KiB, 683x683

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 07:15:37 No.93590916 Report

Quoted By: >>93591611

The start of his Ultimates run was one of the most hype stuff i've been around to witness.

Forever butthurt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:00:26 No.93591493 Report

Quoted By:

Hickmeme

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:14:46 No.93591610 Report

Quoted By: >>93591934

>>93590790
>His FF is the last time his characters were real.
No. There was nothing real about the way Hickman writes characters.
>his FF is the best post 2000 FF run.
No x2

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO RAGE.jpg, 89KiB, 480x355

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:14:48 No.93591611 Report

Quoted By: >>93591654

>>93590916
Oh the good old days, a new reading order image every Weds and oh the excitement. FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Anonymous

View Same Google iqdb SauceNAO breh2.jpg, 6KiB, 280x275

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:18:17 No.93591654 Report

Quoted By:

>>93591611
>All that people asking the reading order to hop in the Maker's wild ride beacuse of the monthly hype.
Where the fuck did monday go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:22:49 No.93591693 Report

Quoted By:

>>93585106
>Is Jonathan Hickman the best writer in comics today?
Roberto Recchioni is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:50:55 No.93591934 Report

Quoted By: >>93591973

>>93591610
>No. There was nothing real about the way Hickman writes characters.
Disagree. They had personality and emotions, they had their human struggles. Nothing that has been in a Hickman comic since.
>No x2
Then tell me which is better and please don't say Waid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:55:36 No.93591973 Report

Quoted By: >>93592003

>>93591934
Aguirre-Sacasa
Grant Morrison

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:58:57 No.93591995 Report

Quoted By: >>93592012

No. That's Chris Ware.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 09:00:43 No.93592003 Report

Quoted By: >>93592035

>>93591973
>not a run
>not a run
So nothing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 09:02:45 No.93592012 Report

Quoted By: >>93592084

>>93591995
That's a funny way of spelling Adrian Tomine anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 09:06:05 No.93592035 Report

Quoted By: >>93592122

>>93592003
>lasted for 27 issues with several arcs
>not a run
Ok.
I give you Morrison's mini, though. Still, if we're going by the logic of "only mainline comic counts" you have trash like Millar's run being better than which is a really low bar to set.
>let my edgy Gary Stu OC kill Aunt Petunia for the sake of cheap shock value
Fuck, man. Why did you make me remember it? I was trying to erase it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 09:14:17 No.93592084 Report

Quoted By:

>>93592012
I dunno. Tomine's probably a better writer just in terms of narrative sense and prose, but I feel like Ware does more with the medium.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 09:19:42 No.93592122 Report

Quoted By: >>93594256

>>93592035
I actually haven't read Aguirre-Sacasa's run so I can't comment on the quality but I've read Waid, Straczynski, McDuffie, Millar, Hickman, Fraction and Robinson and Hickman is easily the best out of all these guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 14:00:49 No.93594256 Report

Quoted By:

>>93592122
Uh no, I already told you, Hickman is bad and can't write real characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 02 Jul 2017 14:08:54 No.93594328 Report

Quoted By:

>>93586988
Helicarrier fell on him and Old Vet Steve slugging it out.

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

Your latest searches