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Anonymous Tue 23 May 15:06:32 2017 No.92634186 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>92634755 >>92634845 >>92634885 >>92635064

Which is worse, being a plot device with little agency but having a fair amount of impact, or being a prop character with more agency but pretty much no impact on the story?

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:11:56 No.92634282 Report

Quoted By: >>92634344

Wendy was involved with the supernatural adventure of the week a grand total of once during the entire first season. Even Stan got more than that, and there was an actual reason for him not to be involved instead of just "she doesn't really give a shit lol"

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:14:42 No.92634344 Report

Quoted By: >>92634369 >>92634501

>>92634282
I'm just convinced that people don't know how to write chill characters like Wendy and Jackie, and that's why they're hardly ever involved.

Why do people use that archetype then?

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:15:58 No.92634369 Report

Quoted By: >>92634406

>>92634344
In Alex's case, it's possible he just doesn't know how to write tomboys

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:17:54 No.92634406 Report

Quoted By: >>92634427

>>92634369
Looking at Roadaide attraction, I think he just doesn't know to write females in general. I mean seriously, the Pne female Character people actually liked for having depth he got right by accident as he had planned to have her be a hate sponge.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:18:47 No.92634427 Report

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>>92634406
And I think we've already discussed the problems with the main female character at length.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:22:41 No.92634501 Report

Quoted By: >>92634517 >>92634544

>>92634344
Because you cannot give female characters flaws or make them suffer from their own shortcomings without getting called sexist. So all that's left is make them "chill" and keep them in the background.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:23:30 No.92634517 Report

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>>92634501
Either that or make them quirky and obnoxious

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:25:06 No.92634544 Report

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>>92634501
That doesn't make sense in the case of Star vs. I think for Jackie it's just a case of viewing her through the lens of Marco.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:37:26 No.92634755 Report

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>>92634186
Prop

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:44:08 No.92634845 Report

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>>92634186
Wendy because she was billed as a main character and never did anything except be the cool girl that Dipper has a crush on.

Jackie is a minor character and has no purpose other than to make Marco spill spaghetti and make Star jealous, she'll probably be written out of the show eventually.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:46:42 No.92634885 Report

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>>92634186
Does /co/ even know what PLOT DEVICE even is?

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:54:04 No.92634988 Report

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>>92634885
Yes, Jackie.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 15:58:52 No.92635064 Report

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>>92634186
Wendy got a lot more screentime in the second season, so far I'm worried about Jackie's character but I have trust because unlike Sugar and Hisch, Nefcy seems to know what she's doing.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 16:07:05 No.92635210 Report

Quoted By: >>92635471

>>92635064
>Nefcy seems to know what she's doing.
We all said the same thing about Genndy and however good SJ5 was, it didn't manage to reach the heights of the season's first three episodes.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 16:23:22 No.92635471 Report

Quoted By: >>92635690

>>92635210
But the difference is no one cares about Jackie. If Nefcy screws her over only a fraction of a fraction of the fanbase will care

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 16:24:46 No.92635490 Report

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>>92634427
Yes, but not the side female characters.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 16:37:12 No.92635690 Report

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>>92635471
I love Jackie and her dynamic with Marco. She needs more screentime to develop though.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 16:55:43 No.92636014 Report

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>>92635690
Agreed, they're too damn cute

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 17:29:27 No.92636644 Report

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>>92635690

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 17:33:13 No.92636714 Report

Quoted By: >>92636783 >>92636814 >>92637224

>this thread again
Which is worse, being a Starcofag or being a Padippicafag?

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 17:36:55 No.92636783 Report

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>>92636714
Padippica
Because at least Starco has a 100% chance of happening

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 17:38:16 No.92636814 Report

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>>92636714
>being a Starcofag or being a Padippicafag?
At least one of those has more than one episode of basis and incredibly high chances of happening.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 17:51:13 No.92637085 Report

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>>92636814
But the smugness of Starco fans is what puts many off
Its a fucking fictional ship, calm down

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 17:53:53 No.92637133 Report

Quoted By: >>92637753 >>92638046

>>92635690
>>92636014
>>92636644
So cute.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 17:58:59 No.92637224 Report

Quoted By: >>92637245

>>92636714
At least those ones have some sort of basis to go off of.

Vicky from FOP fags have gotten even more obnoxious somehow than either of those I mean where did this even come from she hasn't appeared on that shit show in years.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 18:00:05 No.92637245 Report

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>>92637224
Wat

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 18:27:22 No.92637753 Report

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>>92637133

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 18:44:00 No.92638046 Report

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>>92637133
Do you have the webm?
You know the one

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 18:46:07 No.92638088 Report

Quoted By: >>92638164

>>92634http://boards.4chan.org/hc/186
>with little agency
>implying any characters have agency ant aren't a slave to their masters writing ability
"plot device" is a bullshit reductionist term to call out bad writing without saying the writing is bad just in case you're wrong and the writing is not bad.

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Anonymous Tue 23 May 2017 18:49:28 No.92638164 Report

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>>92638088
Except Jackie actually is one while Wendy is not. That's why she is called a prop.

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