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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 20:08:45 2017 No.89385136 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>89385305 >>89388465 >>89389745 >>89392336 >>89393222 >>89393449 >>89394048 >>89395540

>be a mediocre artist with a stale sense of humor
>create something totally unoriginal & insipid
>turn it into a multi-billion dollar franchise with multiple movies, cartoons & a metric fuckload of merchandise

What's stopping you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:15:31 No.89385248 Report

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fuck you i love Garfield

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:18:25 No.89385292 Report

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They're pretty great when they're just John talking to his cat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:18:45 No.89385298 Report

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I took 10+ years of effort and a pre-internet era of syndication and merchandising to occur. Ain't as easy as you think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:19:06 No.89385305 Report

Quoted By: >>89385315

>>89385136
>create something totally unoriginal & insipid
maybe it's unoriginal because you live on a times were stuff like this are not original anymore?
goddamn why /co/ never thinks about how things where on the times where some stuff were created?

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:19:30 No.89385314 Report

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>the 4chan life

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:19:42 No.89385315 Report

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>>89385305
It wasn't original when it came out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:24:58 No.89385407 Report

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>>89385315
yes it was fucking asshole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:27:14 No.89385451 Report

Quoted By: >>89385481 >>89385534

>>89385315
but it was

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:28:58 No.89385481 Report

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>>89385407
>>89385451
It wasn't original (read some of Davis's commentary, he even says as much), but it was consistently good and extremely marketable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:29:53 No.89385499 Report

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I'm not near as good as business and marketing as Jim Davis is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:30:40 No.89385505 Report

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>>89385407
do you even know heith cliff is new fag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:32:11 No.89385534 Report

Quoted By: >>89385612 >>89386914

>>89385407
>>89385451
What aspect of Garfield was original when it came out?

Being a 'joke a day' comic? Obviously wasn't the first
Being about an owner and his pet? Marmaduke & others predate it by decades
Being about an owner and his CAT? Badnews.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:36:56 No.89385612 Report

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>>89385534
Even if Hearthcliffe predated it, Garfield was miles funnier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 20:54:37 No.89385986 Report

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The less effort you put into something the more you rely on luck to succeed.

It may be infuriating that some talentless lazy hacks make bank off of complete shit, but they're an extremely lucky minority. You may as well forgo the low-effort art and just play the lottery. Your odds are no worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 21:26:53 No.89386663 Report

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fat cat eat food lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 21:28:09 No.89386688 Report

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Cat owners are autistic, same thing happened with Simon's cat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 21:34:13 No.89386806 Report

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>>89385315
Nothing under the sun is original. Garfield was a great comic strip for over 20 years, and the fact that it's gotten stale is to be expected since it's coming up on 40.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 21:39:09 No.89386908 Report

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>>89386806
>Nothing under the sun is original
What a cop out. There are degrees of originality and Garfield is much closer to the 'unoriginal' side of that spectrum than many of its peers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 21:39:27 No.89386914 Report

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>>89385534
Garfield was original by being a newspaper comic that actually tried to make a joke
with an actual pointe

everything else was just fever dreams

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Anonymous Tue 24 Jan 2017 22:56:48 No.89388465 Report

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>>89385136
You are removing all the effort and luck from the equation.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:03:22 No.89389745 Report

Quoted By: >>89389805 >>89390135 >>89390289 >>89390605 >>89392654 >>89397146

>>89385136
Once I saw another mediocre artist with a stale sense of humor get popular and become associated with a bunch of the industries top dogs I gave up all hope within myself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:06:19 No.89389805 Report

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>>89389745
Don't fucking talk shit about life with kurami, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:07:59 No.89389851 Report

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>>89389805
not that guy but it's a garbage comic for boring people

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:11:40 No.89389928 Report

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>>89385315
You weren't alive when it came out, kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:22:26 No.89390135 Report

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>>89389745
It's a pretty alright strip. Simple, cute humor just meant to get a quick smile out of people. It gives me that "Rose is Rose" vibe.

I'd take that over the #RELATABLE and "I CAN'T ADULT" comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:26:33 No.89390213 Report

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>>89389805
>>89389851
it really is
you only like it because fat mom

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:30:21 No.89390289 Report

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>>89389745
Why? If anything it should be inspiring. If mediocre people can make it just imagine how far people with actual talent can go. Are so easily discouraged that ANY kind of success is enough to make you quit?

And LWK is great, fuck you.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:33:06 No.89390335 Report

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>>89390213
>Only liking it for the main character

Isn't that the reason why half of /co/ likes the shit they make threads of?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 00:45:40 No.89390605 Report

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>>89389745
>tfw I'll never get fan art from people like Jim Davis, Chris Savino, or other people I look up to for my own works

Just fuck my life up, man

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:29:19 No.89391739 Report

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if you can't appreciate Binky the fucking clown then I don't care what you have to say

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:32:33 No.89391834 Report

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>>89388465

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:42:49 No.89392103 Report

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>>89391739
Binky is probably the best /co/ clown

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:51:11 No.89392336 Report

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>>89385136
>>be a mediocre artist with a stale sense of humor
>classic garfield is fucking great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:53:25 No.89392399 Report

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>>89392336
Did he even write those? Thought he paid people to write his strips by that time.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:55:42 No.89392459 Report

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:56:45 No.89392488 Report

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>>89392459

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:56:45 No.89392489 Report

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>>89392399
I think by at least the late 90s-early 00s was when others started writing the strip

But the beginning through at least partially the creation of PAWS. Inc was when that happened.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:58:02 No.89392529 Report

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>>89392488

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:59:07 No.89392562 Report

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>>89392529

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 01:59:17 No.89392566 Report

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boy does the 3 panel format become formulaic quickfast

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:00:08 No.89392593 Report

Quoted By: >>89392699

>>89385315
There weren't many comics back in 1978 like Garfield. Even Heathcliff which came before him had a different format and told it's jokes differently.

Also to get it out of the way, original Heathcliff under George Gately is nothing like the weird as shit modern Heathcliff.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:00:11 No.89392597 Report

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>>89392562

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:01:17 No.89392637 Report

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>>89392597

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:01:42 No.89392654 Report

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>>89389745
>>89389851
>>89390213

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:02:20 No.89392669 Report

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>>89392637

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:03:24 No.89392696 Report

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>>89392669

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:03:25 No.89392699 Report

Quoted By: >>89393033 >>89393056

>>89392593
>There weren't many comics back in 1978 like Garfield

What do you mean 'like garfield'? Because all the first strips are the same old 'joke a day' format that had been around for decades with essentially the same premise as Marmaduke (owner living with a bad-tempered pet) What aspect of original Garfield was blazing trails?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:05:35 No.89392760 Report

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>>89392459
>>89392488
>>89392529
>>89392562
>>89392597
>>89392637
>>89392669
>>89392696
LOL

We're bachelors, baby

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We're bachelors, baby Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:07:59 No.89392834 Report

Quoted By: >>89392921 >>89392950 >>89392975

>>89392459
>>89392488
>>89392529
>>89392562
>>89392597
>>89392637
>>89392669
>>89392696
We're bachelors, baby

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:11:04 No.89392921 Report

Quoted By: >>89392975

>>89392834
I have a feeling "we're bachelors, baby" could end every Garfield strip

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:12:17 No.89392950 Report

Quoted By: >>89392975

>>89392834
We're bachelors, baby

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:13:13 No.89392975 Report

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>>89392834
>>89392921
>>89392950

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:15:11 No.89393033 Report

Quoted By: >>89393226

>>89392699
We're not talking "joke a day".

Garfield was a huge asshole, negative, and kinda a dick... well, compared to every other comic out there at the time.

We remember but a few from that earlier era (Peanuts, etc.)... but the vast majority were tame, milquetoast and static.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:16:29 No.89393056 Report

Quoted By: >>89393226

>>89392699
Garfield talked and had his own personality and the strips weren't like Marmaduke, Heathcliff, and the like where the entire premise was "animal does something and people react". Garfield's personality of being a fat lazy slob with disdain for just about everything that isn't himself and an inclination of violence towards any animal/human/object that annoyed him was pretty unique.
Granted it was basically just taking a lazy midget and making him a cat but it still worked for a good 15-20 years before the comic went to shit.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:18:30 No.89393108 Report

Quoted By: >>89393143 >>89393146

>>89392975
Do you think the bachelorhood strips are what's holding back Jon and Liz from marrying?

They've been dating since 2006

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:19:50 No.89393131 Report

Quoted By: >>89393151

>>89385292
Realfield is superior to Garfield without Garfield in EVERYWAY!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:20:26 No.89393143 Report

Quoted By: >>89393273

>>89393108
>wanting them to move the relationship that quickly when it just started.

It took them from the early 80s to 2006 to finally hook up. Don't rush things.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:20:28 No.89393146 Report

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>>89393108
Liz probably has fetishes too fucked up even for Jon and Garfield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:20:51 No.89393151 Report

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>>89393131
>Realfield will never get a book published with the help of Jim Davis

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:23:28 No.89393222 Report

Quoted By: >>89393264 >>89393499

>>89385136
>>create something totally unoriginal & insipid

That was on purpose though; his previous comic was shot down by a national syndicate because nobody could relate to bugs so Davis went with a cat instead.

Davis really missed his calling by not going into horror comics though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:23:43 No.89393226 Report

Quoted By: >>89393314 >>89393351

>>89393033
>Garfield was a huge asshole, negative, and kinda a dick
Marmaduke was all of these things

>>89393056
>animal does something and people react
Garfield could talk but strips like this still comprised a good deal of earliest work. Garfield was a fat bad-tempered cat and he caused problems for Jon. The premise is entirely derivative even if it went on to solidify its own style years down the line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:25:17 No.89393264 Report

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>>89393222
I remember reading somewhere where Davis wished that last strip wasn't done like that as he got sick of questions regarding what was 'real' or Garfield's imagination in the comics and if the cat actually was dead or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:25:50 No.89393273 Report

Quoted By: >>89393296 >>89393322

>>89393143
>It took 25 years for them to date
>It's going to take another 25 years for them to get married

It's nuts knowing Garfield could outlive PEANUTS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:26:49 No.89393296 Report

Quoted By: >>89393314

>>89393273
Will most likely become one of those zombie strips like Blondie where the original creators are long since died but the syndicate refuses to end it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:27:27 No.89393314 Report

Quoted By: >>89393359

>>89393226
personally, I'd consider 3-panel strips different from one-panel ones. "funny picture +caption" isn't the same as "setup+punchline+reaction"

>>89393296
it already is, in a way. it's not like Davis is really involved in any fashion anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:27:51 No.89393322 Report

Quoted By: >>89393377

>>89393273
Will newspapers still be around by then though?

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:28:59 No.89393351 Report

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>>89393226
>Marmaduke was all of these things

Marmadick was long since toned down by the time Garfield rolled around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:29:20 No.89393359 Report

Quoted By: >>89393771

>>89393314
>"funny picture +caption" isn't the same as "setup+punchline+reaction"
Ok, but Garfield wasn't one of the first to do this either. Peanuts for one was doing this like 2 decades before Garfield started and I'm sure there were dozens of others before that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:29:54 No.89393377 Report

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>>89393322
Garfield's already pushing 40 and newspapers haven't died out yet, so anything's possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:32:51 No.89393449 Report

Quoted By: >>89393671

>>89385136
>hates Mondays and spiders
>loves sleeping and lasagna

Garfield is the most relatable character ever created.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:34:40 No.89393499 Report

Quoted By: >>89393836

>>89393222
I liked that little arc.

It's kind of reminiscent of Garfield and His Nine Lives.
Does anyone else remember that? I had that book as a kid--wish I still had it so I could storytime it or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:38:10 No.89393581 Report

Quoted By: >>89393700 >>89393714

>>89385505
Heathcliff debuted in 1984, Garfield was first published in 1978

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:41:53 No.89393671 Report

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>>89393449
That's why he became popular, so yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:43:00 No.89393700 Report

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>>89393581
Heathcliff debuted in 1973 you crustacean.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:43:32 No.89393714 Report

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>>89393581

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:45:45 No.89393771 Report

Quoted By: >>89393868

>>89393359

Most Peanut strips were built around four panels though; that's because the syndicate wanted Schulz to make strips that could be laid out horizontally, vertically, or in a square with two panels on two rows.

He broke out of that later on but he did it for so long that it was natural for him to do those strips.

So it was usually:

Setup
Buildup/Beat Panel
Punchline
Reaction

or

Setup
Buildup
Buildup/Beat Panel
Punchline

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:48:17 No.89393836 Report

Quoted By: >>89394083

>>89393499

Primal Self is what I was thinking of when I wrote that Davis being a horror writer though the Garfield alone page is a better illustration of that in a single image.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:49:41 No.89393868 Report

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>>89393771
Be that as it may, Garfield most definitely did not pioneer the 3 panel formula

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:53:23 No.89393970 Report

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I eat, Jon.
It's what I do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:56:32 No.89394048 Report

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>>89385136
>Jim Davis a mediocre artist
I agree his sense of humor is drab, but he's a good artist, stylistically speaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:57:40 No.89394083 Report

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>>89393836
I remember being disappointed that this wasn't in the TV special.
Garfield's 9 Lives is underrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 02:59:12 No.89394130 Report

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GOTTA HAVE A GOOD MEAL

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 03:01:34 No.89394190 Report

Quoted By: >>89394205

>>89392459
>>89392488
>>89392529
>>89392562
>>89392597
>>89392637
>>89392669
>>89392696
>>89392975
fresh OC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 03:02:07 No.89394205 Report

Quoted By: >>89394325

>>89394190
should have used Realfield.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 03:04:47 No.89394265 Report

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>>89392669
i want to photoshop bachelor garfield on other comics

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 03:07:06 No.89394321 Report

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This is demeaning

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 03:07:16 No.89394325 Report

Quoted By: >>89394348

>>89394205
someone else can shoop him in cos I can't find a good realfield graphic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 03:08:22 No.89394348 Report

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>>89394325
Actually that picture looks good as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 04:01:10 No.89395540 Report

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>>89385136
This difference is that Garfield was good for the first 15 years.

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Anonymous Wed 25 Jan 2017 05:20:15 No.89397146 Report

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>>89389745
LWK is pretty cute though. Not the best thing out there, mind you, but it's nice for what it is.

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