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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 17:31:49 2016 No.87223828 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>87223852 >>87223907 >>87223914 >>87223990 >>87224005 >>87224564

>shit product fails to sell
>blame the fans

Can't believe we actually liked this guy once

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:32:48 No.87223852 Report

Quoted By: >>87224040

>>87223828
But he is right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:32:59 No.87223859 Report

Quoted By: >>87223896 >>87224112

Can't belive we're having this thread again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:34:37 No.87223893 Report

Quoted By: >>87224220

Can't believe I like his writing but still think he's an idiot on twitter.

Oh wait, yes I can, because work quality!=how biased a person you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:34:54 No.87223896 Report

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>>87223859
>not expecting /v/ tier console wars every hour on the hour now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:35:11 No.87223907 Report

Quoted By: >>87224240

>>87223828
What variety is he talking about? Another event? Another legacy hero?

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:35:37 No.87223914 Report

Quoted By: >>87224008 >>87225087

>>87223828
Brubaker was right!

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:38:13 No.87223965 Report

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:39:25 No.87223990 Report

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>>87223828
Thing is, he still blames the 'old fans' leaving instead of the 'new' fans for never showing up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:40:23 No.87224005 Report

Quoted By: >>87224020 >>87224040 >>87224226 >>87224298 >>87224358 >>87224544 >>87224635

>>87223828
He's right though. Rebirth is nothing but boring by-the-numbers shit. The only DC stuff I'm reading is the Young Animal line and we all now thise will sell like shit cause capefags only ever want the same old thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:40:34 No.87224008 Report

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>>87223914
It pains to admit...yes he was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:41:17 No.87224020 Report

Quoted By: >>87224140

>>87224005
Weak bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:42:16 No.87224040 Report

Quoted By: >>87224140 >>87224150 >>87224180 >>87224225

>>87223852
>>87224005
>Rebirth is nothing but boring by-the-numbers shit.

Money talks so take your bullshit and walk faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:46:48 No.87224112 Report

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>>87223859
Cry about it Nutshack fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:48:30 No.87224140 Report

Quoted By: >>87224222 >>87224285 >>87224309 >>87224455

>>87224020
>>87224040

DC fags are so angry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:49:07 No.87224150 Report

Quoted By: >>87224205 >>87224208 >>87224256 >>87224265

>>87224040
This is a weird paradox with /co/ and comics fans in general, though. We all say we want change and stories to matter, but then when it happens, we start clamoring for things to go back to their "core concepts" which always is code for "how I liked it back in the day."

I'm happy with Rebirth, but I'm at least aware of the cycle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:51:17 No.87224180 Report

Quoted By: >>87224275 >>87224335

>>87224040

Wait, wasn't your whole argument as DC shills, when Marvel was beating the absolute pants off DC in sales for YEARS, that money was no indicator of quality and that the majority of comic buyers are stupid idiots with no taste?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:52:23 No.87224205 Report

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>>87224150
Temporary status quo shits are not different or innovative. Hydra Cap isn't different, it just has shock value, other than that it's a boring by the numbers cape comic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:52:32 No.87224208 Report

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>>87224150
It's not a paradox because we know it's not going to matter. Riri isn't going to matter.

Hell, remember how Blade was going to have a daughter? That didn't even make it to publication. How's that for a big sweeping change that matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:53:03 No.87224220 Report

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>>87223893
I can't and won't consume the work of a person I don't respect. It's like having sex with a person who killed your family. You're essentially saying "yes, I hate you, but despite that I will continue to support you financially so you can continue being a piece of shit in social circles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:53:16 No.87224222 Report

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>>87224140
Angry and rich lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:53:22 No.87224225 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224040
>Never changing status quo is not boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:53:23 No.87224226 Report

Quoted By: >>87224254 >>87224283

>>87224005
>boring by-the-numbers shit

in other words, GOOD COMICS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:54:15 No.87224239 Report

Quoted By: >>87225170

MODs please stop this twitter spam posting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:54:27 No.87224240 Report

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>>87223907
more SJW pandering and insulting the fans

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:55:00 No.87224254 Report

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>>87224226
Sure thing, buddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:55:01 No.87224256 Report

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>>87224150
There is nothing different in Marvel. Hawkguy was different for it's time for Marvel, but they have been poorly trying to copy the formula. Same for Civil war and minority legacy heroes. It stops being different after the Nth time. At least DC has it's imprints for out of the box stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:55:28 No.87224265 Report

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>>87224150
>We all say we want change and stories to matter, but then when it happens, we start clamoring for things to go back to their "core concepts"
It's almost like a population of people is composed of individuals with different opinions. Wow!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:55:58 No.87224275 Report

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>>87224180
>Wait, wasn't your whole argument as DC shills, when Marvel was beating the absolute pants off DC in sales for YEARS, that money was no indicator of quality and that the majority of comic buyers are stupid idiots with no taste?
But now DC has better comics AND better sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:56:19 No.87224283 Report

Quoted By: >>87224357

>>87224226
You can't possibly believe this. All the DC classics are renowned for being different for their time. Do you think shit like TDKR, Watchmen, Animal Man, Swamp Thing or The Sandman were the industry standard at the time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:56:29 No.87224285 Report

Quoted By: >>87224309

>>87224140
why?
we aren't the ones failing to preform

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:57:13 No.87224298 Report

Quoted By: >>87224340 >>87224408

>>87224005
DC Rebirth offers plenty of non traditional books. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:57:33 No.87224309 Report

Quoted By: >>87224387

>>87224140
>DC fags

>>87224285
>we

Fuck off with your company wars bullshit and brand loyalism.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:58:16 No.87224328 Report

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>>87223965
Holy shit

Suddenly the diversity push makes sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:58:32 No.87224335 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224180
yes, but now DC has better comics that also sell well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 17:58:42 No.87224340 Report

Quoted By: >>87224418

>>87224298
>Lower quality Mosaic for white people

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:00:04 No.87224357 Report

Quoted By: >>87224529

>>87224283
no, just like the present day DC comics are not the standard in today's SWJ dominated era

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:00:05 No.87224358 Report

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>>87224005
>Rebirth is nothing but boring by-the-numbers shit.
And marvel's standard is shit quality books with a few gems encrusted in it that quickly crumble because another relaunch just hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:01:48 No.87224387 Report

Quoted By: >>87224549

>>87224309
fuck your feminazi ass

deep and hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:02:27 No.87224408 Report

Quoted By: >>87224445

>>87224298
>DC has a core line of bread-and-butter comics for everyone and minis and imprints for niche comics not everyone would want.
>Marvel shits up their main line with z-listers and replacements for their main heroes, uniquely pissing off both people who want bread-and-butter stories and people who want niche material.
Who knew?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:02:51 No.87224418 Report

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>>87224340
you mean the only people who read comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:04:21 No.87224445 Report

Quoted By: >>87224462 >>87224493

>>87224408
I'll be sad when the first wave of rebirth cancellation hits. Plenty of those niche comics will probably get offed for not selling enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:04:51 No.87224455 Report

Quoted By: >>87224505

>>87224140
Are you fucking serious? DC fans are super chill because a majority of their franchise's line-up isn't filled with unmitigated garbage. I'm a Marvel fan but holy shit these last two years have been fucking brutal. The awkward as hell transition from Inhumans to X-Men, the transparent pandering to SJWs (I usually give the benefit of the doubt but that last issue of Mockingbird was a fucking shit show) Bendis helming and subsequently ruining any charater he touches, him being given another fucking event, the list goes on as to why Marvel fans are absolutely fucking pissed and anyone who says otherwise is eating sour grapes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:04:59 No.87224462 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224445
that's just the way it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:06:13 No.87224493 Report

Quoted By: >>87224504

>>87224445
>Plenty of those niche comics will probably get offed for not selling enough.
That's why they're minis and imprints. DC knows sales on them are sustanable, so they're either short-term series or imprints being subsidized by the main Rebirth sales and made for artistic and variety reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:07:14 No.87224504 Report

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>>87224493
*aren't sustanable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:07:18 No.87224505 Report

Quoted By: >>87224535

>>87224455
>DC fans are super chill

so chill they request for Rotten Tomatoes to be removed from the internet

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:08:43 No.87224529 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224357
Riiiiiiiiiight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:08:59 No.87224535 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224505
That's /tv/ not /co/ DC fans so I'm not sure if that counts. Everything /tv/ touches turns to filth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:09:22 No.87224544 Report

Quoted By: >>87224588 >>87224595

>>87224005
I think you're partially right. I'm pulling five Rebirth and it does mostly feel like it's 'by-the-numbers' but I don't think it's boring. I don't think they're amazing either. Probably solid seven overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:09:47 No.87224549 Report

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>>87224387
>hates company wars shit
>fuck you feminazi
what the hell?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:11:00 No.87224564 Report

Quoted By: >>87224616

>>87223828
We nothing, sure he has a dumb ass opinion, but this dude wrote superior foes, I'm always gonna like him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:12:39 No.87224588 Report

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>>87224544
>Probably solid seven overall.
This would be the best way to describe it, it's not filled with masterpieces but there's not many shitty books in the relaunch so far, they all tend to range from ok to good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:12:56 No.87224595 Report

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>>87224544
>they have Vertigo and Young Animal for more outside the box stuff. I'm not reading much if Rebirth and I'm not satisfied with the direction, but Marvel right now are pure unfiltered garbage and DC are taking advantage of it. 'sides, Marvel were always more by the numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:14:02 No.87224616 Report

Quoted By: >>87224648

>>87224564
Every day I find it more and more likely that it was Lieber who was carrying Spencer on Foes desu

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:14:24 No.87224623 Report

Quoted By: >>87224849 >>87224927 >>87225049

WE'LL SHOW YOU

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Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:15:24 No.87224635 Report

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>>87224005
>Rebirth is nothing but boring by-the-numbers shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:16:14 No.87224648 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224616
Maybe so, but still it was a welcome light in the SpOck era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:18:53 No.87224695 Report

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Spencer might be a loud mouthed bigot, but I want him to write more Superfamily comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:25:51 No.87224819 Report

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fuck that guy
he already shelved Bedlam cause some concerned mommy talked to him about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:28:12 No.87224849 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224623
>what will the market be saying then?

that it is good to see the old stuff return

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:30:57 No.87224893 Report

Quoted By: >>87224985

Can't wait for Riri and Kamala to join the pile of the forgotten

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:32:49 No.87224927 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224623
Nick my boy, you are delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:36:06 No.87224985 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224893
Kamala is actually a decent character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:38:53 No.87225049 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224623
>this delusion
He's going to be so fucking cocky in November and be SO fucking angry in December

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:40:43 No.87225087 Report

Quoted By:

>>87223914
DC has been doing multiple covers for Rebirth, and my shop has been ordering more because some people buy both covers. They are 50/50 ratio or something so not hard for him to order.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 25 Oct 2016 18:45:14 No.87225170 Report

Quoted By:

>>87224239
They won't if it's anti marvel shit

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