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Retailer gripes about Marvel

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 22:30:24 2016 No.86740233 View Reply Original Report

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This is from a retailer who's not selling a lot of Marvel lately and is critical, but this particular complaint is pretty telling

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:33:52 No.86740304 Report

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>>86740233
That dude is a dcfag to be fair all you need to do is just try listening to his awful podcast

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:35:11 No.86740340 Report

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>>86740304
>he's a dcfriend
Any better deflections, my dear mouseketeer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:36:14 No.86740364 Report

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>>86740304
He is, but he's in business to make money, he's going to sell Marvel comics as best he can

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:37:03 No.86740386 Report

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>>86740304
Marvel damage control spotted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:38:13 No.86740402 Report

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>>86740233
Don't just post twitter screencaps to make a thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:38:17 No.86740405 Report

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>>86740304
being a dcfriend has nothing to do with Marvel solicits outright lying

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:38:47 No.86740422 Report

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>>86740233
Are people really planning on buy Iron Heart or whatever it's called?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:38:56 No.86740427 Report

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>>86740364
I'm just he won't miss a chance to shit on Marvel

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:39:15 No.86740433 Report

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>>86740233
>But the Marvel Universe will NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN
It's like a parody at this point. Marvel is a complete parody of themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:39:37 No.86740442 Report

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>>86740422
I don't like JAV so no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:39:59 No.86740449 Report

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>>86740405
Solicits lie all the fucking time. This isn't new

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:41:11 No.86740466 Report

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>>86740422
She's called Iron Heart, but the book will still be called Iron Man. Go figure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:41:14 No.86740467 Report

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>>86740449
Whilst this is true, it doesn't really excuse the practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:41:27 No.86740474 Report

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>>86740402
This is relevant you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:46:07 No.86740566 Report

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>>86740474
Then link it or quote it you retard.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:47:25 No.86740588 Report

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>>86740402

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:48:18 No.86740606 Report

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>>86740566
see >>86740588

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:51:57 No.86740679 Report

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>>86740304
>This retailer who is trying to sell Marvel comics is clearly a DCfag because he's upset that what he bought isn't what was in the issue so he'll lose a lot of money not being able to sell it.
Marvelfags everyone.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:53:25 No.86740715 Report

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>>86740588
Sure I am.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:59:16 No.86740856 Report

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 22:59:47 No.86740866 Report

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>>86740856

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:01:02 No.86740909 Report

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>>86740866
RIP Marlel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:01:53 No.86740930 Report

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>>86740866
>>86740856
mate marvel is fucking dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:04:55 No.86740979 Report

Quoted By: >>86741024 >>86741115 >>86742518

>>86740856
Big Bang has also stated that while Ms. Marvel continues to do well with its demos, sales have dipped as fans want nothing to do with CWII

All these press releases about variant cover incentive must be adding to the frustration

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:06:06 No.86741003 Report

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>>86740856
>>86740866
Speaking seriously, if Champions flops at the retailer level then retailers are going to slash any and all orders of Marvel NOW(er)! and it'll basically be DCYou 2.0. It'll probably be much worse because of all the variant and sales gimmickry that Marvel is employing in order to get Champions 1 sales up to insane levels. There'll be a lot of heavily burned retailers out there looking at it and looking at how Rebirth is doing along with the returnability factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:06:18 No.86741011 Report

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>>86740679
It's funny because if you read that guys tweets he actually was okay with Civil War II's story back around May or so. He just reports back the sales aren't good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:06:58 No.86741024 Report

Quoted By: >>86741188

>>86740979
There's an increasing number of retailers talking specifically about how Marvel practices are squeezing them instead of working with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:07:17 No.86741031 Report

Quoted By: >>86741368 >>86741427

>>86740856
>>86740866
This is worse than the New 52.
They actually did it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:09:56 No.86741093 Report

Quoted By: >>86752004

>>86740856
>>86740866
This is what Waid deserves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:11:02 No.86741115 Report

Quoted By: >>86741141

>>86740979
Where were you when Marvel killed Kamala?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:11:07 No.86741117 Report

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>>86741003
It's entirely possible that most of the fans for it have moved to Ditigial, or buy in trades primarily.

That's what I do, and I'm at least interested in the title.

But appealing to trades and digitial ghost sales isn't that strong an argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:11:15 No.86741119 Report

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>>86740364
Well hopefully not for long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:11:59 No.86741136 Report

Quoted By: >>86741218 >>86742614 >>86744631

Serious question, is Marvel trying to crash the industry for some reason? Like wtf is actually going on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:12:14 No.86741141 Report

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>>86741115
I pity young Kamala fans
They are naive of the bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:13:46 No.86741176 Report

Quoted By: >>86741214 >>86747722

>>86740866
From that guy's site:

http://pittsburghcomics.com/2016/06/20/is-marvel-even-trying-to-be-my-friend-anymore/

>Now I know I often talk about Marvel Comics in less than glowing terms. As always, it is not because of the books. I love the books they put out. I love the characters. I love the writers and artists. I want to sell lots and lots of Marvel Comics.

>I just don’t like how they do things. Such as shipping Deadpool 3 consecutive weeks. Or having 2 $10 Deadpool issues in one year. Or having Amazing Spider-Man #1 and then Amazing Spider-Man #1.1 the next week, but it doesn’t actually have anything to do with #1 even though is has the same item code implying I should order it the same as #1 because it is part of the same series. Or overwhelming the formerly successful Guardians of the Galaxy book by giving every character their own series as well. They are doing the same thing with the under the radar Squadron Supreme book by coming out with Hyperion and Nighthawk solo series before Squadron Supreme hits it first trade paperback.

>That’s the stuff that drives me nuts. Having to order Civil War #1 well before the #0 issue because it had a “Power Metallic” cover that has a much longer production time. Did you even notice the “Power Metallic” cover. I didn’t think so.

>Back in May, Marvel announced a Civil War II Ulysses special giving you all the info on the new Inhuman around whom the entire event revolves. The event also began in May. But this was only available as a digital comic. We will be getting a print version waaaay after the fact at the end of August, sometime after issue 5 (of 7). Well isn’t that special.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:13:54 No.86741180 Report

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>>86741003
>Doom Patrol is outselling X-books

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:14:07 No.86741188 Report

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>>86741024
>>86741003
there's a lot of simmering discontent about the variants.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:14:36 No.86741197 Report

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>>86741003
>>86740866
>>86740856
>>86740233
Most of the books I'm reading right now are Marvel, I got into comics because of Marvel and they've always been my main company, but hearing all this news of them loosing sales left and right brings me EXTREME pleasure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:15:06 No.86741214 Report

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>>86741176
>Pittsburgh
>Jim Shooter's hometown
OH SHI--

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:15:19 No.86741218 Report

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>>86741136
Hubris

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:17:20 No.86741275 Report

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>>86741188
What do the %'s mean? Like, 300 percent more than your last order or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:18:08 No.86741296 Report

Quoted By: >>86747409

>>86740233

>THE MARVEL UNIVERSE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN

Holy shit they still say crap like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:19:02 No.86741314 Report

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>>86740233

it's almost like the entire business of LCS's is a fucked up barely sustainable enterprise

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:19:04 No.86741316 Report

Quoted By: >>86741400

>>86741275
yes. like if you ordered 30 copies of extraordinary x-men then you'd need to order 90 copies of whatever book they're shilling and then they let you order variants on top of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:19:07 No.86741319 Report

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>>86741275

correct

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:20:09 No.86741348 Report

Quoted By: >>86741386 >>86741532

So who's going to take Marvel's spot in the big two of comics now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:20:48 No.86741368 Report

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>>86741031

New 52 sold really well initially. This is more like DCYou

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:20:58 No.86741376 Report

Quoted By: >>86741427 >>86741566 >>86741611

It truly feels good to be a DCfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:21:40 No.86741386 Report

Quoted By: >>86744139

>>86741348
Valiant or Dark Horse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:22:03 No.86741394 Report

Quoted By: >>86741456 >>86741500 >>86741522 >>86741564 >>86744621

I hate that this industry guilts you so much for not buying singles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:22:08 No.86741397 Report

Quoted By: >>86741966

>>86740233
>>>86740233 (OP)

>>THE MARVEL UNIVERSE WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN

This is a parody, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:22:10 No.86741400 Report

Quoted By: >>86741504 >>86741505

>>86741316
>>86741275
someone post that arcane diagram of what you had to order for hip hop covers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:23:05 No.86741427 Report

Quoted By: >>86741491

>>86741376
It does, but I also feel bad when looking at Marvel.
>>86741031
Didn't New 52 do well for the first few years?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:23:14 No.86741430 Report

Quoted By: >>86741488 >>86742202

>136 variants in the new Previews, not including the 53 USAvengers state variants (Canada, DC & Puerto Rico are the extras).

https://twitter.com/PghComics/status/783066905330483201

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:24:01 No.86741449 Report

Quoted By: >>86741469

>>86740866
>>86740856

I'm glad Marvel's Teen Titans is DOA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:24:22 No.86741456 Report

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>>86741394

i learned long ago to not give a fuck and enjoy the what we get. buy how you can/want to. company wars are the dumbest thing

anything else is asking for trouble

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:25:03 No.86741469 Report

Quoted By: >>86741507 >>86741589

>>86741449
I'll be shocked if the drop from #1 to #5 isn't like 80% at least

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:25:07 No.86741471 Report

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>>86741197
Same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:25:49 No.86741488 Report

Quoted By: >>86741573

>>86741430
Please tell me the states are not incentive and you can chose to buy them at regular price like what DC did for JLA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:25:56 No.86741491 Report

Quoted By: >>86741546 >>86741610 >>86741664 >>86741738

>>86741427

It did, didn't dip until DCYou

Mostly because despite questionable changes and butthurt fanboys not reading the fucking comics a lot of quality stories came out

Sure there was garbage here and there too but that was DC before the reboot as well

Also helped that DC advertised the New52 in commercials on tv. My LCS attracted so many new customers since then it's not even funny. He would always tell me how many new people started coming back every week and he was able to afford a completely new store about a year into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:26:40 No.86741500 Report

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>>86741394
Fuck that noise. I ain't got time to pity people making a living outta funny books. There are things they could do to make the whole situation better, but that takes risk.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:26:41 No.86741501 Report

Quoted By: >>86741800

>yfw Marvel isn't hyping NYCC because Now preorders are so bad that they are rushing the next status quo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:26:47 No.86741504 Report

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>>86741400
>someone post that arcane diagram of what you had to order for hip hop covers

I wonder if they're doing that again for the next round of hip hop covers.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:26:49 No.86741505 Report

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>>86741400

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:26:52 No.86741507 Report

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>>86741469
The #1 numbers got massively inflated to 400k or something by Scholastic, so that's certain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:27:24 No.86741522 Report

Quoted By: >>86744621

>>86741394
The creators who do it are worse than when it's just the company. I remember Peter David blaming readers for X-Factor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:27:49 No.86741532 Report

Quoted By: >>86744596

>>86741348
Young Animal or the revived Wildstorm.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:28:05 No.86741540 Report

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>>86740304
>this damage control

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:28:34 No.86741546 Report

Quoted By: >>86741610

>>86741491
>many new people started coming back every week and he was able to afford a completely new store about a year into it.
PRAISE HIM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:29:39 No.86741564 Report

Quoted By: >>86741663

>>86741394
yeah it sucks that singles are still the determining factor, even though there are clearly a number of new readers who find digital and trades more appealing in comparison.

and you can't blame them, floppies are just disposable magazines

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:29:45 No.86741566 Report

Quoted By: >>86741661 >>86742883

>>86741376

Yeah because Rebirth is great. I get no joy from Marvel crashing. I just want good comics all round

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:30:01 No.86741573 Report

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>>86741488
I'd be surprised if they are open order, that's not the Marvel way

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:30:49 No.86741589 Report

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>>86741469

It's going to be funny seeing the sales for Guardians 2 be lower than TT 2

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:31:02 No.86741593 Report

Quoted By: >>86745264

>>86740233
>diversity pandering failing to sell
>I know let's lie on the solicits and force hapless store owners to buy our bullshit

Could you be any more Jewish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:31:31 No.86741600 Report

Quoted By: >>86741623 >>86741640 >>86741651 >>86741678 >>86741745

>>86741197
Same here.

I'm buying Spidey/Deadpool, Deadpool, Carnage, Venom: Spaceknight, and Spider-man 2099. Probably will be picking up renew your vows, Venom, and Nova.

Some other great titles that I just can't afford right now are Ultimates, Vision, Uncanny Avengers, New Avengers, and Moon Knight

There's also some decent smaller books like Moon Knight, Ms Marvel, Gwenpool, and Hulk, but the majority of what marvel is putting out right now ranges from "meh" to garbage.

Marvel needs a good kick in the behind.

Get rid of Slott, put someone good on cosmic, and stop pushing the inhumans so much.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:31:35 No.86741601 Report

Quoted By: >>86741726 >>86741850

>check my pull list for tomorrow
>a gorillion indies
>18 DC
>0 Marvel
I think there's a lesson for all of us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:32:05 No.86741610 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741546
>>86741491

Inb4 I get trashed for anecdotal evidence

I'm sure the New52 didn't have major profits for every goddamn LCS I'm just sharing a cool story about mine

New store is beautiful too, not too big, but it's clean, has anything you can think of, the employees are helpful, and people of every race and age buy shit in there. I've barely experienced any cringeworthy shit there too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:32:06 No.86741611 Report

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>>86741376
I still remember drone shitposting from 2012

You fags deserve it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:32:41 No.86741622 Report

Quoted By: >>86745543

>>86741505
Embarrassing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:32:42 No.86741623 Report

Quoted By: >>86741751

>>86741600
>Marvel needs a good kick in the behind.
Not with suckers like you buying everything from them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:32:48 No.86741625 Report

Quoted By: >>86741777

Unfortunately my LCS is run by the exact kind of millennial children that promote Champions as the greatest thing ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:33:30 No.86741639 Report

Quoted By: >>86741676 >>86742185 >>86742472

>The U.S.Avengers #1 already has 53 variant covers, one per state, aligning a Marvel hero with every state in the USA, plus Canada and US principalities.

>You might expect stores in specific states to go in heavy on their own variant.

>But if a store orders one copy of all 53 state variant covers, they can order one copy of a Top Secret variant, the artist to be revealed at a later date. It’s meant to be impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:33:29 No.86741640 Report

Quoted By: >>86741751

>>86741600
>Probably will be picking up renew your vows,

You would have to be a cuck to buy this. That comic is Marvel laughing in your fucking face

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:33:29 No.86741642 Report

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>>86740340
>Any better deflections

he's a dcfriend, cuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:33:31 No.86741644 Report

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I wonder how Marvel Comic employees feel right now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:33:46 No.86741651 Report

Quoted By: >>86746479

>>86741600
Also forgot: Take Bendis off basically everything. Let him have Miles and Jessica if he stays far away from anything else. It will at least quarantine him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:34:22 No.86741661 Report

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>>86741566
>I get no joy from Marvel crashing.
I on the other hand get plenty of joy. It's the kind of satisfaction one feels to see a bully get his comeuppance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:34:31 No.86741663 Report

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>>86741564
>floppies are just disposable magazines
and they're marketed and priced like collectibles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:34:31 No.86741664 Report

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>>86741491

My comic book guy basically said that DC is selling really well now and "Civil War is ending soon"

He's a Marvel fag and loves Bendis, so that's saying a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:34:46 No.86741671 Report

Quoted By: >>86741707 >>86744828

>>86740304
>>86740427
Not buying your excuse. Not when a lot of retailers have been reporting similar problems. Let's face it, between the retailers in the tweets, the retailers that reported to Rich Johnston on BC, and Brian Hibbs saying that his second store had high gains on DC but a 20% drop in Marvel purchases, you'd have to be willingly blind to deny that Marvel's having major issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:34:53 No.86741676 Report

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>>86741639
What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:34:54 No.86741678 Report

Quoted By: >>86741720 >>86741936

>>86741600

>Buying all that shit but not buying vision

Characterfags are the worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:36:04 No.86741707 Report

Quoted By: >>86741740

>>86741671

>major issues

i guess it depends on your def of major.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:36:29 No.86741720 Report

Quoted By: >>86741766 >>86741768 >>86741845

>>86741678

>Vision BUT WITH A FAMILY

Oh God who gives a fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:36:43 No.86741726 Report

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>>86741601
>TFAW doesn't even mention the creators of this week's Marvel books
What's happening here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:37:15 No.86741738 Report

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>>86741491

It started off super strong then trailed off. Then everyone thought DC was rebooting again so DCYou failed.

Rebirth is bringing back the old characters so it's succeeding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:37:24 No.86741740 Report

Quoted By: >>86741792 >>86741861

>>86741707

Having to compete with DC through excessive variants and dirty underhand shit like outright lying with your solicitations is major

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:37:32 No.86741745 Report

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>>86741600
>I'm buying Spidey
Spidey was a good surprise. It's a better version of that Byrne's Spider-Man: Chapter One

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:37:39 No.86741751 Report

Quoted By: >>86741805 >>86741818 >>86741825

>>86741623
I'm going to buy the books of stories I genuinely enjoy and want to support.
I'm only currently buying 5 books. How is that everything?
>>86741640
I'm just desperate for a married Peter with MJ. And Conway and Stegman are both great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:38:30 No.86741766 Report

Quoted By: >>86741813 >>86741833

>>86741720

I own a signed copy of Tom King's Vision, but that was total fucking character assasination. Great book but too weird for most people,and Vision fans would hate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:38:32 No.86741768 Report

Quoted By: >>86741795

>>86741720

>Spider-man BUT WITH A FAMILY!

Oh God who gives a fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:38:49 No.86741777 Report

Quoted By: >>86741897

>>86741625
I hope your LCS goes out of business. Find a better one, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:39:01 No.86741783 Report

Quoted By: >>86741826 >>86741869

ITT DCucks try to blow things out of proportion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:39:17 No.86741786 Report

Quoted By: >>86741852 >>86741892

>>86741745
>Spidey
Wasn't this by the writer who salvaged Silk from Slott's Korean fetish fantasy?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:39:28 No.86741791 Report

Quoted By: >>86741876

>>86741745
>that art

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:39:30 No.86741792 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741740

The solicitation fuck ups i'll give up but is that beyond Bendis occasionally?

Variants are just the game, sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:39:33 No.86741795 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741768

>Batman but with parents

Oh god who gives a fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:39:37 No.86741800 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741501
>>No Civil War II panel
Gee, whoda thunk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:39:49 No.86741804 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741197
It's always fun to hear that Kamala's sales have gone down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:39:51 No.86741805 Report

Quoted By: >>86741936

>>86741751
>I'm just desperate for a married Peter with MJ.

Then pay for it when that's actually what Marvel gives you. Not some elseworld scrap. What you think if you buy it that Marvel will listen to you and give it back in the 616? Are you also an X-fag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:40:08 No.86741813 Report

Quoted By: >>86741889 >>86747489

>>86741766
>total fucking character assassination
That sure would bother me if I cared about a shard universe and not just reading the individual comics that have good writers/artists

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:40:41 No.86741818 Report

Quoted By: >>86741936

>>86741751
>I'm just desperate for a married Peter with MJ
Read the dailies, you doofus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:40:53 No.86741825 Report

Quoted By: >>86741936

>>86741751
Yeah, this being written by Conway gives it more legitimacy then Slott's slop in my mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:40:58 No.86741826 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741783

More like shills running scared

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:41:13 No.86741833 Report

Quoted By: >>86741889

>>86741766
Well the entire premise was that Vision had deleted his emotions, so of course his character is radically altered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:41:37 No.86741845 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741720
This. Look how many fucks I give about Vision with a family that kills themselves:

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:41:45 No.86741850 Report

Quoted By: >>86741881

>>86741601
>buying indie comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:41:54 No.86741851 Report

Quoted By: >>86741875 >>86746708

>>86740449
Dc has not had a solicit fuckup this bad in all of rebirth except for blue beetle: rebirth.
And i doubt that hurt sales much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:41:55 No.86741852 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741786
I have no idea, I saw some pages from that artist on twitter and went to pick up the issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:42:23 No.86741861 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741740
>like outright lying with your solicitations is major

In some cases, both Marvel and DC (and even Image) missolicit stuff. Sometimes it's because the actual story is delayed and they need a fill-in, or creative teams changed, or something else.
The biggest problem I see here is that they said that Riri would be in the book and had hyped her up to make retailers order more. If it's true she doesn't appear in the book, then Marvel would have to make up for that in some way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:42:42 No.86741866 Report

Quoted By:

Not legally so, but that certainly feels like fraud if you suggest there will be a first costumed appearance and change it to a different book. Was the solicit updated at least before the order adjustment time passed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:42:42 No.86741867 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740449
That's the point, though. It's a problem because of the way Marvel handles it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:42:49 No.86741869 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741783
SEETHING

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:42:54 No.86741872 Report

Quoted By: >>86741926

>Marvel fags itt hating the best comic Marvel has made in years

Guess you have all lost your minds to ass pain, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:42:58 No.86741875 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741851

>DC didn't fuck up except when they did and also that doesn't count because reasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:42:59 No.86741876 Report

Quoted By: >>86741956 >>86741957 >>86741978 >>86741996

>>86741791
What would you prefer some bland house style? I'd rather see Humberto Ramos on a book than Ivan Reis

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:43:04 No.86741881 Report

Quoted By: >>86742211

>>86741850
>companyfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:43:23 No.86741889 Report

Quoted By: >>86741943

>>86741813

That's the biggest book he's been for more than a decade.

It's like not caring that Pym nearly beat his wife to death in Ultimate because "shard universe"

>>86741833

Yes, it's justified in story. A writer could clean it up pretty easily, or just ignore it. It's not like Vision blew up the sales charts though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:43:26 No.86741892 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741786
Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:43:33 No.86741897 Report

Quoted By: >>86741934

>>86741777
While I partially agree with you they have been good for buying variant covers I like for cheap. Like 1:50's for $10, or the 1:100 Miller variants for DKIII for $30 (which I flipped for 100)

They also provide a bag and board with every issue and 10% discount.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:44:25 No.86741914 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740449
>Solicits lie all the fucking time
They mislead, this solicit straight up says a character is in the issue that is not present. A character Marvel has been marketing like crazy hoping to get new reads to buy the issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:44:27 No.86741917 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740233
At this point i genuinely belive marvel did this on purpose so they could get that first apperance money in 2 seperate issues.
Here in australia im pretty sure the courts would require marvel to allow returns on it im not sure how u.s consumer law is though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:44:29 No.86741918 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740449
This is true, but promoting an issue as a really hyped up character's debut and then it turns out she's not even in it ensures that a lot of retailers over-ordered the book for no reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:44:38 No.86741923 Report

Quoted By: >>86741942

>DC Rebirth
>Titles feature established and popular charachters
>strong creative teams
>newer and OC characters being slowly introduced and built up in the same manner that legacy characters were introduced in the past

Shockingly, this dominates the sales charts. When is Marvel going to rip off Rebirth so I can go back to reading their comics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:44:44 No.86741925 Report

Quoted By: >>86742037

Waid is and has been carrying the baton with Vision's plot along with King in Avengers fwiw. /co/ doesnt read that tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:44:49 No.86741926 Report

Quoted By: >>86741967

>>86741872
I haven't seen anyone hating on Ultimates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:45:10 No.86741934 Report

Quoted By: >>86741999

>>86741897
>1:100 Miller variants for DKIII for $30 (which I flipped for 100)

That's clever but kind of dickish anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:45:20 No.86741936 Report

Quoted By: >>86741994 >>86742372

>>86741678
Vision is great, but I just missed the first couple of issues. I might pick up the trade.
>>86741745
I'm not buying Spidey. I like Robbie Thompson, but I really don't like it. The retcons for no reason, and the artist is also just changing things about the characters for no reason. Flash has black hair, Gwen is in high school, and the Osborns look like completely different people. And the artist in your pic is terrible.
>>86741805
I like alternate universe stuff too though. But yes, we really do need Peter and MJ back together in 616.
And no, I'm not an X-fag. I think I might have killed myself by now if that was the case. They are getting totally shit on.
>>86741818
Is there a place online that has them? Canada doesn't get Spider-man newspaper strips.
>>86741825
Exactly. He's a classic Spider-man writer, and he's knocking it out of the park with Carnage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:45:40 No.86741942 Report

Quoted By: >>86742001 >>86742120

>>86741923

Next year when they relaunch again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:45:44 No.86741943 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741889
>It's like not caring that Pym nearly beat his wife to death in Ultimate
That's easy to not care about, it's The Ultimates

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:46:09 No.86741956 Report

Quoted By: >>86742236

>>86741876
>there are only two styles: house style or webcomic tier

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:46:11 No.86741957 Report

Quoted By: >>86741991

>>86741876
>I'd rather see Humberto Ramos on a book than Ivan Reis
Oh god is it possible to contract cancer from an anonymous post?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:46:42 No.86741966 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741397
nope http://marvel.com/comics/issue/55535/invincible_iron_man_2015_14

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:46:44 No.86741967 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741926
My biggest complaint is that I like New Avengers better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:47:05 No.86741978 Report

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>>86741876

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Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:47:38 No.86741991 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741957
I hope so then people who like Reis or Geoff Johns could get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:47:44 No.86741994 Report

Quoted By: >>86742184

>>86741936
>Is there a place online that has them?
http://comicskingdom.com/amazing-spider-man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:47:53 No.86741996 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741876
>I'd rather see Humberto Ramos on a book than Ivan Reis
I like Marvel, but I hate your opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:47:55 No.86741998 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740233
Ouch, that's gotta hurt....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:47:56 No.86741999 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741934
They made the money they want, I made the money I want and helps me support my comic purchases. How is that dickish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:48:02 No.86742001 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741942
>Next year when they relaunch again
>Implying Marvel won't just triple down on the diversity pandering and garbage writing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:49:37 No.86742037 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741925
>/co/ doesnt read that tho
Yeah I don't read Waid's Avengers. I only read good books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:50:53 No.86742065 Report

Quoted By: >>86742092

>>86740233
>Here's us taking an explosive diarrhea on your favorite character. Yes, get angry and buy that shit to find out what happens next.
>Wait where you going, HEY we changed your hero with a black lady are you racist or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:52:04 No.86742092 Report

Quoted By: >>86742113 >>86742161 >>86743027

>>86742065

>a new black lady takes on a heroes mantle
>you consider it explosive diarrhea

yeah maybe you have a little bit of a race and/or women problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:53:03 No.86742113 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742092
>YOU RACIST PIG REEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:53:20 No.86742120 Report

Quoted By: >>86742193

>>86741942
I mean, hopefully, but this scares me. Every relaunch, I drop more and more of their books. Right now I'm down to two fucking Marvel comics. And as a Marvel fanboy, this fucking hurts. Ultimates and Vision are both great and I pirate Totally Awesome Hulk as the death of Banner made this book get really good, but thats literally it for me right now. Meanwhile, I'm reading and buying almost half of the Rebirth titles. This is fucking retarded.

I legitimately miss Marvel comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:53:32 No.86742126 Report

Quoted By:

Marvels getting bodied bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:55:08 No.86742161 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742092

>losing the argument?
>call them a racist!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:56:12 No.86742184 Report

Quoted By: >>86742260

>>86741994
Neat.
Come to think of it does supes still have a strip

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:56:16 No.86742185 Report

Quoted By: >>86742217 >>86742238 >>86744641

>>86741639
Wasn't the "secret variant" for Venom a recolored McFarlane drawing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:56:41 No.86742193 Report

Quoted By: >>86742322

>>86742120

Ultimates is a fun superhero book but I feel like it could be way more.

Also, I liked the real Ultimate universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:56:58 No.86742202 Report

Quoted By: >>86742419

>>86741430
>including Canada
The FUCK? The actual FUCK?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:57:16 No.86742211 Report

Quoted By: >>86742247

>>86741881
Company with a future lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:57:22 No.86742217 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742185
I think so, and the RYV one was a JRSR picture

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:58:23 No.86742236 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741956
Prove otherwise you smug cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:58:23 No.86742238 Report

Quoted By: >>86742262 >>86744641

>>86742185
Yeah, that was for the 1:1000 variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:58:45 No.86742247 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742211

>not buying good books regardless of their origin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:59:33 No.86742260 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742184
Strangely enough, no. I think the last time he was in a comic strip was maybe the 80's. Batman used to have a comic strip too but he hasn't had one since like the early 90's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 04 Oct 2016 23:59:39 No.86742262 Report

Quoted By: >>86742423 >>86744641

>>86742238
>buy 1000 copies to get a recolored 90's drawing
What the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:00:09 No.86742279 Report

Quoted By: >>86745575

>>86741745
That building must be very cheap if Spidey can pass through and not receibe mayor trama. Who draw that shit?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:01:24 No.86742314 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740930
Marvel has been dead for years. Dîsney is just puppeteering the corpse.

Only difference is people are finally starting to notice the stink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:01:39 No.86742322 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742193
Man, I wish I could find something from the past few years that made me miss the Ultimate universe, but it's been dead in the water for years. Secret Wars was a mercy kiling

As far as the current Ultimates, I think it's one of the best, if not THE best team book out right now. Civil War is dragging it down a bit but once that wraps up, it'll go back to being fantastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:03:09 No.86742355 Report

Quoted By: >>86742429 >>86742694 >>86742749

CANADA IS NOT A STATE, MARVEL! YOU FUCKERS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:03:39 No.86742372 Report

Quoted By: >>86742512 >>86742635

>>86741936
Conway has made a Carnage series one of the top books at Marvel right now. What about anything in that sentence is something anyone expected?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:05:28 No.86742419 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742202

Literally just an excuse to put Wolverine on something

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:05:31 No.86742423 Report

Quoted By: >>86744641

>>86742262
They're doing the same thing with Renew Your Vows, that 1:1000 variant is basically a recolor of the cover of that ASM Annual with Spider-Man and Mary Jane's wedding.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:05:37 No.86742429 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742355
>

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:06:38 No.86742472 Report

Quoted By: >>86742497

>>86741639
Didn't DC do something like this for that JLA New 52 comic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:06:49 No.86742477 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740466
i unironically like that costume design, iron man mixed with kamen rider

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:07:31 No.86742497 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742472
yeah although they didn't do a special 1:53 variant on top of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:07:52 No.86742512 Report

Quoted By: >>86742573

>>86742372
You know what? The current Carnage run is mid-tier at best. It's trying something new and not doing an awful job at it. But it's not really that great. And thats what makes you being right so damn bad. A mid tier book about Demon Carnage is one of Marvel's best right now. Fucking terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:07:58 No.86742518 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740979
Fucking Marvel, they should know people like Kamala because her stories were SUPPOSED to be simple and underdoggy, and now because she got popular they make her appear everywhere, dilluting what makes the character appealing.
A friend of mine even dropped the book when Secret Wars happened. I haven't because I'm a waifufag since day 0.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:09:23 No.86742573 Report

Quoted By: >>86742829

>>86742512
What made carnage mid-tier for you ? the art ?
or is it because is slow ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:10:20 No.86742614 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741136
With Rebirth stealing all of their buzz, Civil War II flopping with fans and retailers, and the outlook for Marvel Now Again being pretty damn bleak, they're in panic mode. The problem is most of their talent's gone and the asshats in charge think they can save their ass by doubling down on practices that harm retailers, as well as the very things that have been driving readers away in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:10:50 No.86742635 Report

Quoted By: >>86742711

>>86742372
>Conway has made a series of books at Marvel
The writing was on the wall, Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:12:27 No.86742694 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742355
A FUCKING LEAF

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:12:42 No.86742702 Report

Quoted By:

http://boooo.ytmnd.com/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:13:07 No.86742711 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742635
It's not shocking that Conway would write a top book. Moreso that Conway would be writing a Carnage solo. Or that a Carnage solo would be a top book. Then again Axis Carnage was one of the most entertaining parts of Axis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:13:16 No.86742717 Report

Quoted By: >>86742802

>Replacing beloved older heroes isn't selling.
>10 billion terrible variants isn't selling.
>Half a dozen boring super-events a year isn't selling.

How about trying to make more good comics, Marvel? Maybe that'll work. Then again, I'm not a comic publisher, so what do I know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:14:19 No.86742749 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742355
Not yet leaf
Not yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:15:38 No.86742802 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742717
When your top writer is fucking Bendis, a guy who doesn't understand story structure, you're fucked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:16:35 No.86742829 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742573
the slow pace and the art both hurt it, but I also honestly don't care for the writing. Most of the characters read the exact same. The plot and the fact that it's the first Carnage book that hasn't been dog shit in a while are what keep me checking it out. That, and I like reading about Eddie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:18:05 No.86742883 Report

Quoted By: >>86742968

>>86741566
I love Marvel, but they need to crash. The last few years have been full of bad choices.
Too many events, too many reboots, too many legacy characters replaced for diversity and controversy, too many Bendis books. Overall shit writing trying to appeal to "The modern MCU loving youth on tumblr! Memes!"

These variants are the tip toppiest of the iceburg. They need to crash so they have a reason to look at what theyre doing wrong. A company with no competition gets lazy and cheap, and thats exactly what happened to Marvel.

This is the best medicine for it to become readable again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:20:54 No.86742968 Report

Quoted By: >>86743037 >>86743128

>>86742883
Marvel has the same problem Steven Universe has. There's a story there that people want to read, but there's so much bullshit that's just to entertain people who just like memes instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:22:32 No.86743027 Report

Quoted By: >>86743085 >>86743289

>>86742092
>Didn't mind it when it happened to CA
>Didnt mind it when it happened to Spiderman
>Was tolerant when it happened to Hulk.
>Thor was some bullshit
>Hawkeye was beyond bullshit
>By Wolverine I was so apathetic I stopped buying the comics

I'm not the one with the problem mate. All my favourites were replaced for diversity and controversy. Fucking all of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:22:51 No.86743037 Report

Quoted By: >>86748466

>>86742968
Except Marvel doesn't pull off enjoyable slice of life meme shit at all either. They're terrible at both storytelling, and meme filler shit right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:23:48 No.86743073 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740233
>Promise IronLoli
>Don't deliever and don't tell anyone.
>Profit
Oh wow....hahahahahah, Bravo Marvel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:24:04 No.86743085 Report

Quoted By: >>86743158

>>86743027
>By Wolverine
this one was actually pretty ok, standard sidekick replacing the mentor shit, X-23 has been around for a while. I can see where you're coming from though and the current climate makes it obvious what Marvels real intentions probably were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:25:04 No.86743128 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742968
I dont even want to read this shit story they have, its the characters I'm attached too. Getting better writers should be number 1 on their list of improvements

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:26:13 No.86743158 Report

Quoted By: >>86743216 >>86743232

>>86743085
If Wolverine was the only one I could deal with it. But no matter how "alright it is" its too many of my favourites gone for a fad.

I even forgot to mention Iron Man. Who the fuck is left?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:27:49 No.86743216 Report

Quoted By: >>86743269 >>86743379 >>86745488 >>86745620

>>86743158
Black Widow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:28:13 No.86743232 Report

Quoted By: >>86743341

>>86743158
No one is left, that's the point.

Marvel want to make an all new "diverse" universe, and they'll crash the entire company into the ground to get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:29:11 No.86743269 Report

Quoted By:

>>86743216
lel who cares bout dat bitch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:29:52 No.86743289 Report

Quoted By:

>>86743027
This, I feel like theres a gauge.
Some fans ragequit after one or two replacements. More tolerant people struggled when it hit 5 Legacy characters replaced.

At about ten replacements now how many people are still holding out? Most of the fanbase has a breaking point.

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:31:29 No.86743341 Report

Quoted By:

>>86743232
>Hey Bob, why dont we make new characters?
>No no. Only legacy characters sell.
>Why not get rid of the legacy characters that sell for the new ones that dont then?
>Well I don't see a problem with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:32:32 No.86743379 Report

Quoted By: >>86743439

>>86743216
I'd honestly give Marvel a hand if they replaced her with a straight white man, just to mix things up for once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:33:22 No.86743408 Report

Quoted By: >>86743665 >>86743799 >>86744193

>>86741745
Why is the guy in the dead center levitating next to his toilet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:34:19 No.86743439 Report

Quoted By: >>86743619

>>86743379
>straight white man
>straight
Nigga, he'd be the biggest fuckboy ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:40:08 No.86743619 Report

Quoted By:

>>86743439
I mean,
I'd fuck him but I don't think he'd want me to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:41:36 No.86743665 Report

Quoted By:

>>86743408
>he doesn't telekinetically perform his bathroom ablutions.
Get a load of this schmuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:44:53 No.86743799 Report

Quoted By:

>>86743408
He's doing his wall-sits. Guess now they're floor-shits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:54:07 No.86744123 Report

Quoted By: >>86746511

>>86740856
>>86740866
When you go after the online, MCU fan audience, don't be surprised when your viewers buy their comics through Amazon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:54:36 No.86744139 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741386
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:56:01 No.86744193 Report

Quoted By:

>>86743408
my guess is that the artist and colorist had conflicting ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 00:56:06 No.86744195 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740233
People who voluntarily work in the comics industry deserve whatever shit comes their way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:02:15 No.86744433 Report

Quoted By: >>86744451 >>86744495

The missing piece from all these sales discussions in that we don't know the online numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:03:00 No.86744451 Report

Quoted By: >>86744631

>>86744433
And we never will, so there's no point in bringing them up at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:04:35 No.86744495 Report

Quoted By:

>>86744433

>Online number
>Meaning fuck all!

I'm pretty sure DC has been dominating those for the last few months as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:08:21 No.86744596 Report

Quoted By: >>86744652

>>86741532
They don't have enough titles to grab the market share. Image would be more likely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:09:02 No.86744621 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741394
>I hate that this industry guilts you so much for not buying singles.
They don't make me feel guilty, just angry. I'll buy whatever the fuck I want. If I'm not buying floppies, make them better or shut up.

>>86741522
> I remember Peter David blaming readers for X-Factor
That REALLY pissed me off. Very stupid on his part, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:09:26 No.86744631 Report

Quoted By: >>86744831 >>86750625

>>86744451
Well, folks make comments like >>86741136 , wondering how Marvel can be so foolish, why they keep promoting progressive stuff, etc. My guesses are:

Online sales make up for the retail losses
Positive mainstream media is more valuable for building the IP than a 5K sales difference
Marvel is building the next generation of Netflix shows/movies

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:09:40 No.86744641 Report

Quoted By: >>86744934 >>86746503 >>86750527

>>86742262
>>86742423
>>86742238
>>86742185
Don't forget the 1:1000 variant for Civil War #0, which had nothing to do with the actual book and was just an ad for Agents of SHIELD drawn by Greg Land.

An ad homaging a classic Spider-Man cover and failing to capture what made the original cover good in the first place, at that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:10:03 No.86744652 Report

Quoted By: >>86744979

>>86744596
Doesn't Marvel have a hateboner for Image?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:15:26 No.86744828 Report

Quoted By: >>86744862 >>86745141 >>86745454 >>86745717 >>86745766

>>86741671
I blame Disney. Other than the movies which they hand off to other people outside of their sphere of influence, all aspects of Marvel have been pretty shitty as of late despite the much needed universe reboot that happened some time back. As far as the comic books go, however, I think we can all agree that the issues can be traced back to He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:15:37 No.86744831 Report

Quoted By: >>86745913

>>86744631
Floppies and comic book stores are losing more and more relevance with each passing year and right now a lacklustre event is matched against DC's semi-regular universe reset sugar hit

It's not going to last. There was even an interview with some Marvel folks fairly recently where they answered the "Why?" question with what amounted to "Uh, do you think we'd do a thing, they continue doing it, if it didn't work?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:16:41 No.86744862 Report

Quoted By: >>86745141

>>86744828
>all aspects of Marvel have been pretty shitty as of late despite the much needed universe reboot that happened some time back.

Marvel has never rebooted it's universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:19:29 No.86744934 Report

Quoted By: >>86745012

>>86744641
I just checked on eBay. People seem willing to pay $400 for that variant. That's fucking insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:21:34 No.86744979 Report

Quoted By:

>>86744652

probably.
they do keep building up these big profile writers who then burn out/get tired of doing work-for-hire shit, so they go make their own books and not have to worry what 20 other people are doing at the same exact time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:22:48 No.86745009 Report

Quoted By: >>86748618

QUICK, GET RID OF MORE WHITE MALE CHARACTERS.

THAT'LL FIX IT.

THAT'LL GET THE PEOPLE BUYING TICKETS TO THE MOVIES TO BUY OUR BOOKS!

YES! IT'S FLAWLESS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:22:53 No.86745012 Report

Quoted By: >>86745171

>>86744934

is there a price listing it for 400, or an actual one thats being bid on up to 400?

because someone thinking he can sell it for 400 and people willing to spend 400 on it are two different things...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:28:27 No.86745141 Report

Quoted By: >>86745191 >>86745220

>>86744862
>>86744828
He must have meant the huge restructuring that happened with a lot of Marvel series years back when it was first bought out. It definitely wasn't a reboot but a lot of things got changed around, mostly just designs, lineups, writers/artists assigned, etc and then Marvel put up all of those new things like Howard the Duck, She-Thor, and fucking Gwenpool. Gwenpool is so shit, I can't believe it's still running.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:29:39 No.86745171 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745012
Check "Sold Listings." Most of them ended--with green prices, so someone bought it--around the $400 range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:29:41 No.86745172 Report

Quoted By: >>86745259 >>86745301

>>86740466
I thought the new Iron Man was supposed to be some black teenage girl who's super smart and super athletic or some shit like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:30:05 No.86745175 Report

Quoted By:

>Angry fans buy comics!

Yeah, apparently not. Everyone told that cunt his brilliant plan would fizzle out eventually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:30:43 No.86745191 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745141

Gwenpoole is really good and has nothing to do with the usual "abloo bloo Marvel took away my white man" whining anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:31:42 No.86745214 Report

Quoted By: >>86745302 >>86745305 >>86745354 >>86750353

>>86740856
>>86740866
>>86741003
Maybe if people stopped reading/downloading them online for free on sites like this there wouldn't be such low orders for the new shit coming out. And people were wondering why print's dying out....

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:31:56 No.86745220 Report

Quoted By: >>86745340

>>86745141
>fucking Gwenpool. Gwenpool is so shit, I can't believe it's still running.
But it's good
It's actually fun, interesting and relatable... You know, like pretty much what every shitty tumblr-esque book tries to be with all their "lel quirky! xP" bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:33:18 No.86745259 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745172

she is.
that asian girl is from a japanese iron man porn parody.
that Marvel happened to use the same name is "coincidental"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:33:33 No.86745264 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741593
Fuck.
The pandering isn't working.
Quick!
Spider-Man is now a black lesbian single mother transsexual with one leg, self diagnosed autism from vaccinations and xe don need no man telling xer to get pictures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:34:56 No.86745301 Report

Quoted By: >>86745381 >>86750373

>>86745172
There are going to be two Iron Man books post CW2

Iron Man - starring Riri Williams as "Iron Heart"
Infamous Iron Man - starring Dr Doom as "Iron Man"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:34:58 No.86745302 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745214
>comic downloads get 3k+ on a single link for one book
>average book barely pushes 30k
If you assume that the 3-4 mirrors each book gets in the sharethreads here, ends up in some figure between 5k or so, you've got pirating pulling a fair chunk of their total numbers.

That's not counting crap like viewcomics and the like

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:35:10 No.86745305 Report

Quoted By: >>86745443 >>86749550

>>86745214

print isn't dying out.

and the people who pirate aren't going to buy the books anyway.

these stores are saying that among their normal comic buying audience, no one is really pre-ordering the new Marvel stuff (meaning they have to guess at how much to order, meaning they'll under-order everything)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:35:23 No.86745314 Report

Quoted By: >>86745360 >>86745373 >>86745474

>>86740233
Did Marvel actually lie about the solicit or did they make a misprint?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:36:39 No.86745340 Report

Quoted By: >>86745395

>>86745220
>relatable
Yes I too find myself living in a comic book universe, and despite this knowledge still think the world doesn't matter, leading me to go on guiltless killing sprees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:37:06 No.86745354 Report

Quoted By: >>86745441

>>86745214
Yeah, that's why DC rebirth is such a huge failure and no one is buying it. Because piracy destroyed DC Rebirth just like it destroyed Marvel.

OH WAIT!!!!

*slaps your face*

You're and idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:37:08 No.86745355 Report

Quoted By: >>86745413 >>86745467 >>86745473

I've seen Marvel fans begging for a reboot of the entire Marvel universe.
That's how bad it has gotten

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:37:26 No.86745360 Report

Quoted By: >>86745474

>>86745314

Marvel actually lied.

Bendis books for the past (at least) 2 years have been pretty consistent with the solicits not matching up with the actual events of the issue.

Of course, Marvel knows this stuff ahead of time and makes no attempts to correct their solicits by order cut-off dates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:38:03 No.86745373 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745314
>Read Riri Williams' debut!
>haha just kidding she isn't in this issue, she's in the next one

that doesn't sound like a misprint to me, how do you accidentally think the introduction for a majorly hyped up character is in the wrong issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:38:18 No.86745381 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745301
>Dr Doom as "Iron Man"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:38:52 No.86745395 Report

Quoted By: >>86745698

>>86745340
>being this literal
Autism, isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:39:31 No.86745413 Report

Quoted By: >>86745498 >>86745573 >>86745582

>>86745355

Wasn't that what ANAD was supposed to be? Except not? Except maybe? Except they still haven't fucking clarified any of it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:40:37 No.86745441 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745354
>*slaps your face*
Well I see /co/ has given up pretending it ISN'T tumblr

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:40:38 No.86745443 Report

Quoted By: >>86746272

>>86745305
>people who pirate aren't going to buy the books anyway.
Because they can pirate it. If there were no alternatives for them other than buying it then they would actually put the cash up front for it sooner or later. By having these storytime threads and spoonfeeding the content for others you are trivializing all the hard work that goes into making an ish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:41:15 No.86745454 Report

Quoted By:

>>86744828
>He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named.
Perlmutter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:41:32 No.86745461 Report

Quoted By: >>86745480 >>86745496 >>86745729 >>86745902 >>86746539 >>86746621

It sort of annoys me how /co/ has become such a DC Comics circle jerk now that Rebirth is a success

Almost makes me wish Rebirth wasn't so successful so that their wouldn't be so much shitposting about sales.

I mean it's not like Marvelfags (the comic book fans at least) shitpost any time Marvel outsells DC

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:41:38 No.86745467 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745355
I'm a Marvelfag and now I want the unthinkable with all my heart. But after a regime change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:41:54 No.86745473 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745355
I thought it already got a reboot. Wasn't that the whole point of Secret Wars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:41:56 No.86745474 Report

Quoted By: >>86745525 >>86745713

>>86745314
>>86745360
It sounds like they solicit something, and then Bendis' pacing fucked things up and changes the content of the finalized book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:42:06 No.86745480 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745461
We /v/ now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:42:19 No.86745482 Report

Quoted By: >>86745543 >>86745591

>>86741505
Wow, that's ridiculous. You should be making it easy for people to buy your product, not need a diagram.

Spoiler !G06lKU6JL.

Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:42:28 No.86745488 Report

Quoted By: >>86745591

>>86743216
Is there a red widow are some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:42:46 No.86745496 Report

Quoted By: >>86745538 >>86746331

>>86745461
Nigga /co/ has always been a DC circlejerk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:42:48 No.86745498 Report

Quoted By: >>86749570

>>86745413
ANAD is as far as you'll get to getting a full reboot. It wasn't really a reboot though, as mentioned before it was more of a general cleanup that led to current Ms. Marvel and other such changes made, including the decision to kill off Bruce Banner and make the Asian Hulk the one true Hulk from now on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:43:17 No.86745512 Report

Quoted By: >>86745614 >>86745671

>>86740233
>we want to turn Tony/Iron Man in our new mascot/flagship character because the movies
>8 months later
>lolno you niggas better get ready for Iron Doom and Moon Girl 2.0: But with an Iron Man Armor Edition!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:43:43 No.86745525 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745474

right, but theres a 3 month gap between solicitation and a book's release.
They know at least halfway through that time if the events they solicit and the events of the book don't line-up, and if they make no attempt to alert people to that, then they're actively deceiving the reading audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:44:28 No.86745538 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745496
It's never been this obvious until now though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:44:31 No.86745543 Report

Quoted By: >>86745607

>>86741505
>>86741622
>>86745482
The funniest thing is that not long after, Marvel released a hardcover with all the variants in it. And now they're doing another series of Hip Hop variants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:45:41 No.86745573 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745413
ANAD was a simplification of the "putting toys back in the box" part of ending a writer's run.

Basically, it let the new writers start where they wanted with what characters they wanted, instead of spending their first 6 issues undoing the previous arc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:45:44 No.86745575 Report

Quoted By:

>>86742279
>receibe mayor trama
anon please stop

besides, spidey has always been good at soaking blunt force trauma. It's sharp things and bullets that cause problems

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:45:52 No.86745579 Report

Quoted By: >>86745599

Doesn't the relaunch start today? Why do I get the feeling all the Rebirth story times are still going to be done first anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:45:59 No.86745582 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745413
ANAD was just a relaunch.

Some people and journalists thought that Marvel was rebooting because of Secret Wars and how Marvel kept stating that it was Literally the End of the Marvel universe and that it would be no more!!!(not realizing that it was just a gimmick and that Marvel was just hyping their comic).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:46:20 No.86745589 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740856
>>86740866
Marvel are still going to claim Champions is a massive success, selling more than 400,000 issues conveniently not mentioning that the majority of those were sold to Scholastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:46:24 No.86745591 Report

Quoted By: >>86745668

>>86745488

has she appeared in anything besides those back-ups and the novel?

>>86745482

ha! you should see the diamond ordering catalog/website. they could teach entire classes on how to use that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:46:51 No.86745599 Report

Quoted By: >>86745627

>>86745579
>Why do I get the feeling all the Rebirth story times are still going to be done first anyway?
Does DC still put their digital books up a few hours before Marvel or are they closer now?

Spoiler !G06lKU6JL.

Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:47:18 No.86745607 Report

Quoted By: >>86745650 >>86746243

>>86745543
Why tho. Why hip hop variants because its hip? I rather have famous album variants. Because honestly there are few good hip hop ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:47:49 No.86745614 Report

Quoted By: >>86745850

>>86745512
They've been trying to make Iron Man a flagship comic for years and it's never stuck. This is nothing new. It kind of feels like they're making Iron Heart so they have a new character to replace Iron Man when RDJ retires.

Honestly, I don't mind Iron Heart. Maybe now Tony's old rogue's gallery has a shot of beating her. It always felt dumb to me that all of Tony's villains are tech-based and go up against a man who has them outgunned, outsmarted, and outfunded. It's like how the Riddler would be a top-tier villain if he wasn't pitted against The World's Greatest Detective app on Bruce's Batcomputer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:48:02 No.86745620 Report

Quoted By: >>86746102

>>86743216
I'm sure she'll get replaced by Red Widow the second Red hits comics proper. Red Widow's gay, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:48:17 No.86745627 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745599
DC release them earlier. Think it's at midnight west coast time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:49:07 No.86745650 Report

Quoted By: >>86745711

>>86745607

the few really good hip hop ones got wasted on shit artists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:49:21 No.86745658 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741505
Someone should make a new one of these for the new Marvel Now variants. Just as many crazy hoops to jump through.

Spoiler !G06lKU6JL.

Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:50:02 No.86745668 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745591
I thought she was gonba appear in the comics bimut i dont fucking know. Ive heard alot of shit but Marvel changes its mind at a drop of a dime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:50:07 No.86745671 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745512

RDJ ain't gunna be around forever

Also Tony isn't dead, Victor as IM (obviously) isn't going to be forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:50:32 No.86745679 Report

Quoted By: >>86745740

I'm expecting all the varient nonsense to blow up in their faces soon.

You don't tell retailers to order more when your direct competition is putting out higher quality stories at a cheaper price point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:51:15 No.86745698 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745395
Please keep defending your shitty book. Please.

Spoiler !G06lKU6JL.

Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:51:37 No.86745711 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745650
That seems to be a theme in Marvel. The good shit gets horrible art and the bad shit gets own best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:51:43 No.86745713 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745474
I'd believe that, Bendis is terrible with pacing (amoung other things).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:51:54 No.86745717 Report

Quoted By:

>>86744828
OHHH, you mean Lord Moldybutt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:52:30 No.86745729 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745461
I'very been waiting for this moment for years. Because it's been years since Marvel has put out a decent book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:52:57 No.86745740 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745679

plus considering how many of their variants get announced as BY TBA.

like the final issue of Civil War 2 just says CLASSIFIED and the cover is blacked out, all the variants information says TBA (for the like 6 covers its going to have) the only information retailers and readers have about that issue is that its by Bendis and Marquez.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:54:02 No.86745766 Report

Quoted By:

>>86744828
Will this soon be accurate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyYb_r4cZHE

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BismuthVectoring !ojFRESH.oI Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:54:26 No.86745776 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741197
Same

I can't wait for the company to get a reality check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:56:53 No.86745826 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741197
Marvel is a fucking shit show right now. Get out while you still can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:57:58 No.86745849 Report

Quoted By: >>86745918 >>86745957 >>86746019

Honestly, I hope Marvel gets hit hard. They need a good swift kick in the ass and realize they can't keep getting away with some shit they've been pulling.

Pandering to the millennial and/or Tumblr audience just isn't a viable strategy in the long run. Especially when they are not buying comics. Replacement Theory just doesn't work when you piss off the rest of your audience.

Having competition would be a great thing. Let Bendis actually fear for his job if he keeps putting out the same horribly paced shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:57:58 No.86745850 Report

Quoted By: >>86745876 >>86745914

>>86745614
>Maybe now Tony's old rogue's gallery has a shot of beating her.

But she's even smarter than Tony, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 01:59:27 No.86745876 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745850
GET THE FUCK OUTTA TOWN!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:00:33 No.86745902 Report

Quoted By: >>86746680

>>86745461
>I mean it's not like Marvelfags (the comic book fans at least) shitpost any time Marvel outsells DC

They do. You just ignore it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:01:13 No.86745913 Report

Quoted By: >>86745981 >>86746194

>>86744831
The more likely scenario is that the people in charge at Marvel are inept and are doing the same exact shit that crashed the industry and nearly put them out of business 20 years ago, but now they have Disney to fall back on so they won't change anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:01:12 No.86745914 Report

Quoted By: >>86745953

>>86745850
Wtf

Wouldn't it be a far better story idea if it was just a normal intelligence level individual having to deal with Iron Man level problems?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:01:14 No.86745916 Report

Quoted By: >>86745993

>Vision is literally only Marvel titles I'm reading
>1 issue left
>will be done with them and their shit
>remember that Renew Your Vows on-going starts soon
God fucking damn it. I was so close to being out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:01:16 No.86745918 Report

Quoted By: >>86745961 >>86746055

>>86745849
AND FOR GOD'S SAKES, DROP THE PRICE TO $3!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:02:34 No.86745953 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745914
No because then that would make the black teenage girl disadvantaged in a world run by straight white rich old men and Marvel obviously doesn't want that to happen :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:02:38 No.86745957 Report

Quoted By: >>86745996 >>86746020 >>86746050 >>86746052 >>86747578 >>86747771

>>86745849
>Pandering to the millennial and/or Tumblr audience just isn't a viable strategy in the long run

Yeah, they need to pander to the 35+ white male audience like DC, that's the long term winner

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:02:42 No.86745961 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745918

Marvel's book quality is already poor as shit, if they drop their prices, these things are going to be printed on fucking loose leaf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:03:25 No.86745981 Report

Quoted By: >>86746395

>>86745913
Honestly having Disney as a safety net could very well be a factor.

Corporate has something to fall back on if profits tank. Plus, I'm sure many of the Marvel Comics executives would have golden parachutes effectively and transfer over to the movie section.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:03:49 No.86745993 Report

Quoted By: >>86746048

>>86745916
It's not going to be good so why are you bothering?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:03:57 No.86745996 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745957

long term, probably not.
but at the moment, its the audience with the money and the willingness to spend it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:04:39 No.86746019 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745849
Somehow I feel that Brevoort, Bendis, and Slott are still somehow blissfully unaware about how hard they are being decimated.
Like, there's static in their heads

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:04:40 No.86746020 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745957
Well considering those people are the ones that actually buy comics I'd say it's a pretty good idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:05:43 No.86746048 Report

Quoted By: >>86746794

>>86745993
I just want happy, family man Peter. I'm hoping they'll Lois & Clark it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:05:48 No.86746050 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745957
When that generation is buying, hell yes you pander to them.

Used movies and TV to get the Next Generation after millennials.

Hell, the 30 to 40 year old age group has the most disposable income.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:05:54 No.86746052 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745957
You mean the people that buy comics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:06:06 No.86746055 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745918
It needs to be expensive so they can pay for all those variant covers that retailers aren't going to stock because of how horseshit backwards it is to order them

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:08:45 No.86746102 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745620
>Red Widow's gay, right?
I thought she liked a guy in her novel. Could still be bi I guess.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:08:50 No.86746105 Report

Quoted By: >>86746128 >>86746151 >>86746188 >>86746833 >>86746942 >>86747305 >>86748944 >>86748992 >>86749025

Hello darkness my old friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:09:46 No.86746128 Report

Quoted By: >>86746202 >>86747433

>>86746105
That black guy has the "I've made a huge mistake" face going on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:11:01 No.86746151 Report

Quoted By: >>86746197

>>86746105

who is the guy on the right?
because Coates is the only one in that group doing anything close to a decent job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:12:52 No.86746188 Report

Quoted By: >>86746227 >>86746912

>>86746105
Shouldn't feel that bad. His Black Panther sells gang busters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:13:17 No.86746194 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745913
The Disney Juggernaut providing support is indeed a factor.

Disney is known for playing dirty and using almost Walmart esque tactics to dominate markets. I would not be surprised at all if some of the shit they are pulling at Marvel right now is to further their market share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:13:26 No.86746197 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746151

i think spencer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:13:36 No.86746202 Report

Quoted By: >>86747245

>>86746128
>"What am I doing here?"
>"My feet hurt"
>"I wish I was at home writing actual books"
>"Why is that fat fuck Bendis always so happy?"
>Why is everyone so white?
>Even the Muslims are white here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:14:38 No.86746227 Report

Quoted By: >>86746323

>>86746188
*sold gangbusters

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:15:39 No.86746243 Report

Quoted By: >>86746341 >>86746391

>>86745607
>Why hip hop variants because its hip?

>“For years, Marvel Comics and Hip-Hop culture have been engaged in an ongoing dialog,” Marvel Editor-in-Chief Axel Alonso explained in a widely shared press release. “Beginning this October, we will shine a spotlight on the seamless relationship between those two unique forces.”

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:17:19 No.86746272 Report

Quoted By: >>86746533

>>86745443
No this is a case of if they couldn't pirate it they wouldn't bother at all. People only pirate comics because it's accessible to go on view comics spend like 10 minutes and read something and go on with their day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:19:05 No.86746318 Report

Quoted By:

It really is crazy how Marvel has become the teenager company period compared to DC being 20+ and older adults.

Also insanely dangerous on Marvels part. The forthcoming generation after Millennials is going to be one of the poorest Generations in a very long time and won't have nearly as much spending money to put towards comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:19:18 No.86746323 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746227
It's still generally high selling. The first issue's sales was overly inflated due to variants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:19:37 No.86746331 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745496
/co/ has never been a company wars circlejerk until some retard kept pushing it. DC and marvel are both shit companies but they used to equally churn out good and horrendous shit at equal pace. Then Marvel decided to go full tumblr as well as getting worse writers on the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:20:00 No.86746341 Report

Quoted By: >>86746393 >>86747076

>>86746243
>Hip-Hop culture
Is that a company or magazine or something?

How can they have an ongoing dialog with culture?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:21:56 No.86746391 Report

Quoted By: >>86746876

>>86746243
>“For years, Marvel Comics and Hip-Hop culture have been engaged in an ongoing dialog,”
What does that even mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:22:00 No.86746393 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746341

Alonso just wants to seem cool.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:22:13 No.86746395 Report

Quoted By: >>86746483

>>86745981
>Plus, I'm sure many of the Marvel Comics executives would have golden parachutes effectively and transfer over to the movie section.
Not when Fiege already threw them under the bus and moved the movie side fully Disney. Everyone at Marvel proper is on their own. Marvel Studios is completely it's own entity now and has nothing to do with Marvel but sharing it's name. They literally don't talk to each other anymore to the point that Alfre Woodard just played two different characters, one on CACW and another on Luke Cage, in what is supposed to be a shared universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:25:41 No.86746479 Report

Quoted By: >>86753794

>>86741651

Sorry to ask but I'm new to comics and marvel in particular since the lenght and there were so many titles that always scared me to start reading.

Whats the problem with bendis exactly? Everything I lurk in a thread somebody is complaining about him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:25:44 No.86746483 Report

Quoted By: >>86746601

>>86746395
>Alfre Woodard just played two different characters, one on CACW and another on Luke Cage, in what is supposed to be a shared universe.
Something completely unprecedented in the MCU, of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:26:48 No.86746503 Report

Quoted By:

>>86744641
To be fair, Lincoln was the one who died so it actually worked out in the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:27:14 No.86746511 Report

Quoted By:

>>86744123
As if they buy comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:28:29 No.86746533 Report

Quoted By: >>86746869

>>86746272
>People only pirate comics because it's accessible to go on view comics spend like 10 minutes and read something and go on with their day.

vs spending the same 10 minutes on comixiology or amazon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:28:39 No.86746539 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745461
>I mean it's not like Marvelfags (the comic book fans at least) shitpost any time Marvel outsells DC

Yeah fuck off mate. I remember the first month Rebirth launched and Marvel outsold DC because of DC's really low volume of books and the OP used a picture of that giant celestial from CWII #1 and slapped Marvels logo on it with's DC on the tiny heroes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:31:18 No.86746601 Report

Quoted By: >>86746743

>>86746483
>Something completely unprecedented in the MCU, of course.
Yes...?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:32:03 No.86746621 Report

Quoted By: >>86746745

>>86745461
Oh boo hoo, I'm so sorry the D*sney board dared to talk about something other than D*sney in positive terms for a change. Maybe when they put out something better than dreadful people will start kowtowing to the Mouse again.

Or after that hawaiian princess thing comes out and all the waifu spergs skitter out of the cracks like roaches. Either or.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:34:16 No.86746680 Report

Quoted By: >>86746727

>>86745902
MCU shitposting is not the same as comic book sales shitposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:35:13 No.86746708 Report

Quoted By: >>86746901

>>86741851

What was wrong with Blue Beetle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:35:52 No.86746727 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746680

the couple months leading up to Rebirth/BatmanVSuperman those two things were the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:36:31 No.86746743 Report

Quoted By: >>86747036

>>86746601
>Yes...?
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Actors_with_Different_MCU_Roles
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:36:34 No.86746745 Report

Quoted By: >>86746823 >>86746864

>>86746621
>D*sney board

This is /co/, not /tv/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:38:53 No.86746794 Report

Quoted By: >>86746971

>>86746048
>I'm hoping they'll Lois & Clark it.

Lois and Clark happened in the DCU proper though. It's entirely different

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:40:15 No.86746823 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746745
This is a Disney board when a new movie is about to come out. Just wait a few weeks and you'll see.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:40:37 No.86746833 Report

Quoted By: >>86747146

>>86746105

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:41:48 No.86746864 Report

Quoted By: >>86746943 >>86750456

>>86746745
Does /tv/ have regular "marvel shipping threads?" Does it have a 24/7 D*sney Wars general for the godawful kiddie cartoon? Is /tv/ still talking about every MCU film in glowing terms?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:42:00 No.86746869 Report

Quoted By: >>86747277

>>86746533
>Buying digital
>Spending 6 bucks for a digital product
Yes. Most people don't want to spend money on comics. If they can't read it they won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:42:05 No.86746871 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741505
So is this the Marvel equivalent of a Hypercrisis thread? In difficulty, I mean.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:42:14 No.86746876 Report

Quoted By: >>86747198

>>86746391
A lot of rappers seem to be into comics. MF Doom is the obvious example and there's a guy from Wu Tang nicknamed Iron Man. A lot of black youths in the 70s-80's read Marvel comics, because those comics kicked ass and were cheap, and it shows in their music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:43:08 No.86746901 Report

Quoted By: >>86746976

>>86746708
I think they solicited issue 3 or 4, instead of issue 1...or they decided to nix a more classic introduction for a 'balls deep into the action' type of thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:43:40 No.86746912 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746188

Shit writing, caught up with him quick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:44:43 No.86746942 Report

Quoted By: >>86747059

>>86746105

>black guy
>white muslim lady wearing hijab probably thinks she is progressive
>non descript white guy
>fat chud bendis
>gay guys on the right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:44:47 No.86746943 Report

Quoted By: >>86746992

>>86746864
>being this triggered by the mouse
Walt rape your mother or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:46:13 No.86746971 Report

Quoted By: >>86747178

>>86746794
I thought we didn't know where the RYV was taking place? and it's not like being on a different Earth has stopped characters like Spider-Gwen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:46:26 No.86746976 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746901

That's a little different than this though, especially when you're taking about introducing a new character you've hyped for months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:47:25 No.86746992 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746943
Just made a lot of shit movies and shows that continue to pollute the collective consciousness thanks to lots and lots of marketing and virtue signalling.

Which is why certain individuals are so eager to leap to their defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:49:40 No.86747036 Report

Quoted By: >>86747098

>>86746743

the majority of these are essentially extras

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:50:45 No.86747059 Report

Quoted By: >>86747745

>>86746942

>Alonso
>white

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:51:39 No.86747076 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746341

It's bullshit, pretentious PR speak for "we're kinda have the same fans sometimes".

Like whenever someone working on an adaptation says phrases like "the evolution of", "what works and what doesn't work".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:52:58 No.86747098 Report

Quoted By: >>86747522

>>86747036
But not all, which was the essential point. Alfre Woodard being cast as two different characters is not some obvious sign of the divisions between Marvel and Marvel Studios on its own, explainable only through that disconnect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:55:07 No.86747146 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746833
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:56:53 No.86747178 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746971
They said it's not the same Earth that the Secret Wars one happened, and it's basically an Earth where One More Day never happened.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:57:54 No.86747198 Report

Quoted By: >>86747231 >>86747254 >>86747412

>>86746876
Wu Tang is so into comics that Rza played a comic book character in GI Joe 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 02:59:48 No.86747231 Report

Quoted By: >>86747254 >>86747262 >>86747302 >>86747412

>>86747198

Wu Tang is so into comics that they have written their own, as well as getting actual comics artists to illustrate their albums

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:00:29 No.86747245 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746202
Bendis doesn't even look happy. He looks annoyed that someone pulled him away from the desert table.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:00:53 No.86747254 Report

Quoted By: >>86747373

>>86747198
>>86747231
There's a certain irony when it's always the black gangster stereotype that are really into nerdy shit like comics and anime

Judge Anon

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Judge Anon Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:01:18 No.86747262 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747231
Wu-Tang is so into comics, they fucking name-dropped ROM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:01:48 No.86747277 Report

Quoted By: >>86747864

>>86746869
> hur durr people pirate because it's convenient.
> but digital exists
> hur durr buying digital

fine then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:03:11 No.86747302 Report

Quoted By: >>86747412

>>86747231

Every Wu-tang member has a nickname and a few of them are comic book characters. Tony Starks, Johnny Blaze, Lex Diamonds. Method Man was also one of the guys who helped do the music for Luke Cage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4z1AZI2sYg&list=PL55086AB3CE6BE133

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:03:14 No.86747305 Report

Quoted By: >>86747678

>>86746105
>Bendis
THERE HE IS
NOW STONE HIM TO DEATH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:06:47 No.86747373 Report

Quoted By: >>86747412

>>86747254
Wu-Tang got their name and theme from fucking cheezy ass kung fu movies, it's a given their into capeshit and whatnot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:08:46 No.86747409 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741296
I'd be more impressed if Marvel promised that things would be stable for 12-18 months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:08:53 No.86747412 Report

Quoted By: >>86747521 >>86747646 >>86747712

>>86747302
>>86747373
>>86747198
>>86747231

can this just be a Wu Tang thread now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:09:58 No.86747433 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746128
Isn't that because this was after the whole, we're gonna kill war machine because he's a minority discussion for civil war II?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:13:03 No.86747489 Report

Quoted By:

>>86741813
Kill yourself a la carte' then.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:14:35 No.86747521 Report

Quoted By: >>86749679

>>86747412
What do you want to know?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:14:41 No.86747522 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747098
What about the guy that was the cop in Avengers then played Souza in AC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:16:13 No.86747545 Report

Quoted By:

>Marvel books start neglecting good stories for popular headlines
>Casuals eat that shit up on twitter and tumblr
>Marvel keeps doing diversity for the sake of diversity
>Casuals don't actually buy floppies, most don't even read the stories and just want to see the next MCU shit
>Actual readers have been spurned because they don't care about the next queer biracial female Dr Doom if there's no substance in the story

Yet people are surprised that they're finally hitting shit numbers?
I'm not saying they should pander just to typical comic readers and not try new things- I dig that shit. But it can't compromise a good story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:17:52 No.86747578 Report

Quoted By: >>86747667

>>86745957
>the 35+ white male audience like DC, that's the long term winner
Long term fans with disposable income. Yes, that's a good strategy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:21:39 No.86747646 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747412
Could Tony Stark beat Toney Starks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:21:47 No.86747650 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740304
The owner of the LCS I go to is a Marvelfag and even he is pissed off at Marvel right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:22:57 No.86747667 Report

Quoted By: >>86747693 >>86747720

>>86747578

Do normies even want more fem Thor and radical black teen with an iron man suit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:23:28 No.86747678 Report

Quoted By: >>86747787

>>86747305
Bendis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:24:35 No.86747693 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747667

femThor, yes.
black IM, no one seems to care? most non-comic book fan reactions were "why is the creative team two white guys?"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:25:39 No.86747712 Report

Quoted By: >>86747792

>>86747412

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:25:57 No.86747720 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747667
Most normies don't even know that FemThor, black Iron man etc exist.

I honestly believe that the comics arm at Marvel exists to look diverse while the cinematic universe brings in the real money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:26:05 No.86747722 Report

Quoted By: >>86747893

>>86741176

Retailers hate having to have stock that doesn't move. And most comic stores are mom and pop businesses. Ordering tons of books that don't sell is awful for them

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:26:09 No.86747724 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:26:40 No.86747731 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:27:11 No.86747741 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:27:15 No.86747745 Report

Quoted By: >>86747790

>>86747059
he's half white

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:28:30 No.86747771 Report

Quoted By: >>86747915

>>86745957
Pretty sure Rebirth is attracting a lot of non 35+ white male audience, they are even getting some of the CW audience although partially that's also to blame because Arrow sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:29:21 No.86747787 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747678
Bendis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:29:39 No.86747790 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747745

the other half automatically negates his whiteness though.
hes a filthy beaner halfbreed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:29:39 No.86747792 Report

Quoted By: >>86747843

>>86747712

Sauce? This is great

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:32:43 No.86747843 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747792
A magazine called Rappages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:33:50 No.86747864 Report

Quoted By: >>86747933

>>86747277
You're not understanding, I'm a pirate fag and if Nemesis or Win threads died out I'd just stop reading. I wouldn't start paying $3 -6 for digital content, I'll just read trades in the library as they arrive.

Print isn't dead, it's just overpriced as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:35:19 No.86747893 Report

Quoted By: >>86747930

>>86747722
>most comic stores are mom and pop businesses
I would say most comic stores are run by people really passionate about the medium, but in reality running themselves into the ground financially as they are the rotting limb of a changing industry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:36:34 No.86747915 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747771
I know 4 people, including myself, who started pulling comics with rebirth.

All white, 3x Male, 1x Female, 3x 27 years old, 1x 25 years old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:37:36 No.86747930 Report

Quoted By: >>86747988

>>86747893

Nu52 got a lot of new people in. Rebirth is doing great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:37:38 No.86747933 Report

Quoted By: >>86748088 >>86750199

>>86747864
>Print isn't dead, it's just overpriced as fuck.
$20 a week for a hobby isn't really bad at all imo.

I work out at a gym even though I could probably cobble together a home setup. Costs me $15 a week, so comparable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:40:46 No.86747988 Report

Quoted By:

>>86747930
>Nu52 got a lot of new people in. Rebirth is doing great.
It is, absolutely.

But I can't imagine DC/Marvel won't just cut out the middle man soon and offer a netflix like subscription within the next decade. I know Marvel sort of does, but I mean to the date. $10-20 a month.

Do you really see physical stores existing in 2025?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:45:31 No.86748088 Report

Quoted By: >>86748204 >>86748338

>>86747933
Never said I didn't have the money to spend on it, it really is just that I don't want to spend $6 on a flimsy magazine with content that is subpar 75% of the time.

It's great that you're willing to drop $20 for something that you enjoy, but to be honest that $20 can go towards food or doing something I can't do for free already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:51:29 No.86748204 Report

Quoted By: >>86748300

>>86748088
>I don't want to spend $6 on a flimsy magazine with content that is subpar 75% of the time.
Then buy DC. That's what I do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:57:18 No.86748300 Report

Quoted By: >>86748313 >>86748318 >>86748338

>>86748204
Or I can continue to pirate it and buy $6 of food to enjoy while reading the comic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:58:14 No.86748313 Report

Quoted By:

>>86748300
Fatty

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 03:58:45 No.86748318 Report

Quoted By: >>86748406

>>86748300
You have gone back to $6, DC is $3, that is not 'overpriced'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:00:01 No.86748338 Report

Quoted By:

>>86748088
>>86748300
>He doesn't pirate food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:03:57 No.86748389 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740866
>even deadman and hawkman have a few
top kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:04:47 No.86748406 Report

Quoted By: >>86748478

>>86748318
Then I'll buy $3. I wasn't being serious anyway, I'll just not spend the money.

Comics as a medium is not worth the investment. $3 for a magazine that I can read for literally free on my phone is overpriced, deal with it normie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:07:26 No.86748440 Report

Quoted By:

The only new Marvel title I've wanted to read in years is Vision.
But I can wait for the 12 issue "omnibus" for $100.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:09:10 No.86748466 Report

Quoted By:

>>86743037
>su
>enjoyable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:09:46 No.86748478 Report

Quoted By: >>86748504

>>86748406
>I wasn't being serious anyway
...haha I was just joking the whole time.

Sure thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:12:03 No.86748504 Report

Quoted By: >>86748533

>>86748478
You could replace the amount with literally any amount and my point would still stand.

If the comic shops paid me money to take their issues I'd still rather have the .cbr on my phone and read it that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:13:35 No.86748533 Report

Quoted By: >>86748559 >>86748672

>>86748504
>my point would still stand.
What point? Weren't you just joking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:15:07 No.86748559 Report

Quoted By: >>86748638

>>86748533
Don't know why you're still going since you were the one joking the whole time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:18:33 No.86748618 Report

Quoted By: >>86748698

>>86745009
That's not the problem.

People aren't avoiding these new comics because they, the readers, are racist.

People are avoiding these new comics because they, the comics, are badly written.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:19:43 No.86748638 Report

Quoted By: >>86748672

>>86748559
(you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:21:16 No.86748672 Report

Quoted By:

>>86748638
>>86748533
(you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:22:38 No.86748698 Report

Quoted By:

>>86748618
No, people don't know how to find comics and don't care enough to look.
No newstands.
Stores hard to find.
You're lucky if you can find a few singles at your local Barnes & Nobles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:37:12 No.86748944 Report

Quoted By: >>86749001

>>86746105
these are the exact type of people i would've expected work at marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:39:18 No.86748992 Report

Quoted By: >>86753109

>>86746105
Who's the bald one who isn't Bendis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:39:48 No.86749001 Report

Quoted By: >>86749030 >>86752308

>>86748944
There was a DC v Marvel staff pic someone made a while ago.....the DC guys would fucking destroy the Marvel ones in a fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:40:53 No.86749025 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746105
Imagine 30 years from now when all the major creators are past away and these guys are the old guard creators at conventions. ...who am I kidding comics wont even be any where near conventions in 30 years it will all be movie and tv media.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:41:16 No.86749030 Report

Quoted By: >>86749563 >>86750548

>>86749001
God could you imagine if they still held those cross company baseball meets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 04:54:59 No.86749277 Report

Quoted By: >>86749466

Marvel's books are decent to fucking awful.

Is there any other industry-leader in any sector of business that rests ENTIRELY on the work of the past?

If you had never heard of Spider-Man, X-Men, Avengers etc from movies, cartoons and whatever else and you were coming onto today's Marvel Comics for your first ever taste of these characters, you absolutely WOULD NOT be hooked on them.

I am borderline obsessed with the X-Men and I love what I know of the characters, but if I only had today's comics to go by, I wouldn't know jack shit about the characters or have any real attachment to them. There is barely any writing in today's books.

I'm entirely an X-guy, but I can tell from conversation that, despite Marvel intending to shit on X-Men, the rest of the Marvel line is more or less the same.

Plots are barely there. Characters are barely differentiated. If you feel like you might want to recommend Marvel stuff that might have the slightest hope of permanently hooking a friend, all you have to point them to is All-New Wolverine (it's decent, deal with it) and fucking Vision.

There is no character and just barely a story in Marvel overall. As I said, I'm an X-fan, but fanboys of the other franchises feel free to correct me if you aren't seeing more or less the same thing.

These days, Marvel is just too lazy to produce stories and fictional people worth remembering and people coming into cape comics brand-new today have no reason to stay. There's no hook because there is no character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 05:07:03 No.86749466 Report

Quoted By: >>86750378 >>86751728

>>86749277
Marvel's characters are absolute shit anyways. Spiderman is literally the only good one in the entire lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 05:11:56 No.86749550 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745305
I actually started buying comics cause of pirating comics. Download, read, buy what you liked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 05:12:51 No.86749563 Report

Quoted By:

>>86749030
That's not going to happen any time soon, now that the Dcdgers have moved to LA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 05:13:13 No.86749570 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745498
Isn't banner coming back in like a year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 05:19:43 No.86749679 Report

Quoted By: >>86750585

>>86747521
Give me the best wu tang related comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 05:34:54 No.86749886 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740427
Maybe, this looks like a pretty reasonable complaint.

I haven't read the comic though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 05:56:06 No.86750199 Report

Quoted By: >>86750327 >>86750347

>>86747933
>$20 a week for a hobby isn't really bad at all imo.
when it only takes you 20 minutes to finish, yeah it is.

Unless you're extremely intent on discussing it to death on forums, you're getting very little bang for your buck

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:05:16 No.86750327 Report

Quoted By: >>86750360 >>86750377 >>86750596

>>86750199
>Unless you're extremely intent on discussing it to death on forums

It's sad. One of my biggest fears about 4chan going down is not being able to discuss comics with you guys and losing interest because of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:07:11 No.86750347 Report

Quoted By: >>86750596

>>86750199
Start looking at the pictures you fuck. And stop being a dumb goy and start buying comfy trades with huge discounts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:07:54 No.86750353 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745214
>Maybe if people stopped reading/downloading them online for free on sites like this there wouldn't be such low orders for the new shit coming out. And people were wondering why print's dying out....

Or maybe the quality or appeal of the product has something to do with it? You can't tell me that Foolkiller, Solo, Wasp, Prowler, or Slapstick are going to still be in publication this time next year.

Combine that and constantly launching books with creative teams that can't get flagship titles like Avengers in the top 50 (Waid) and they're setting themselves up for disaster the moment the bottom falls out of the MCU's popularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:08:21 No.86750360 Report

Quoted By: >>86750377

>>86750327
Ditto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:09:00 No.86750373 Report

Quoted By:

>>86745301
Because two Iron Man books pre-CW2 were going SO well...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:09:23 No.86750377 Report

Quoted By: >>86750567

>>86750327
>>86750360
It sucks that /co/'s the best place to discuss comics. I assume that if 4chan goes down soon, we'll just go to another chan, and try to keep the discussions going there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:09:24 No.86750378 Report

Quoted By: >>86751728

>>86749466
Spiderman is actually the worst of all time, he's a shit mary sue and even with thousands of books Kraven's Last Hunt is the only halfway decent thing he's in. All the rest is ULTRA generic superhero action with the world's cheapest soap opera for pasty nerds with their underdog nerd self insert with a 200+ IQ, model goods looks and pussywhipped virgin redhead hottie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:11:03 No.86750390 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740304
I mean.

How can you spin that dude.

The solicit says "Riri's first time as the new Iron Man" and Riri is not in the book. It is an OUTRIGHT LIE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:16:56 No.86750456 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746864
Sup Banksy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:23:23 No.86750527 Report

Quoted By: >>86750544

>>86744641
>>daisy has no ass

Come on, I know it's Land but still...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:25:46 No.86750544 Report

Quoted By:

>>86750527
OH SHIT, I MUST WATCH IT NOW

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:26:22 No.86750548 Report

Quoted By:

>>86749030
I think they used to until Quesada took over. Now they have to communicate with each other in secret.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:28:15 No.86750567 Report

Quoted By: >>86750596

>>86750377

4chan won't go down anytime soon. There would be a mass cull of boards first. But /co/ does enough traffic that we would be safe. Superfluous boards like /vr/ and /wsg/ would be gone

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:29:44 No.86750585 Report

Quoted By:

>>86749679
What do you mean? They were really into Spider-Man back in the day. Shang-Chi probably fits with their style though since it's a 70s kung fu comic. They also put out an album called Wu-Massacre with some comic related material created around it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:30:26 No.86750596 Report

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>>86750347
There is not so much going on in the panels that I can spend a weekend reading new comics. Even assuming that every comic is a 2.99 DC one, you'd only manage 7 comics for 21 bucks - 140 pages.

That guy made the comparison of going to the gym for $15 a week. That's a few hours a week if you're reasonable, at the same cost of 100 comic pages.

I'm not condoning that dickhead putting piracy above all, but comics frankly are not a cost-effective hobby.

>>86750327
I understand, man
I pretty much gave up playing video games when the local net cafe closed down. Just experiencing it with other people made it more fun

>>86750567
Possible removal of on-site archives as well; if hosting is costing a lot removing those would help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 06:32:53 No.86750625 Report

Quoted By:

>>86744631
>Positive mainstream media is more valuable for building the IP than a 5K sales difference

I think this is a big thing, Marvel doesn't give a fuck about comics anymore, they're a move studio now, one of the most successful in the industry.

The comics basically just exist to get them headlines and occasionally to be mined for future movie plots, that's it.

I'm sure they're happy when they sell well, but overall those at the top probably don't give a shit as long as they're not losing money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 08:09:33 No.86751728 Report

Quoted By: >>86752496

>>86750378
>>86749466
Are you responding and arguing with your own posts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 08:35:28 No.86752004 Report

Quoted By: >>86752136

>>86741093
As petty as it sounds, I'm lowkey happy about this too because Waid is an insufferable asshole on twitter. If Spencer's book flops too I'll be downright giddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 08:49:38 No.86752136 Report

Quoted By:

>>86752004
I kind of hate twitter for disillusioning me about the personalities of so many of my favorite writers and artists. Waid could do no wrong when I was a kid reading comics in the 90's. Seeing him act like a ridiculous, blathering cunt on the internet is a hard pill to swallow.

I'd still like to see him get another run on Captain America. Preferably after someone slaps the stupid out of him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 09:08:51 No.86752308 Report

Quoted By: >>86752453

>>86749001
Lol some time ago someone posted a screenshot of /co/ discussing how DC staff could beat up Marvel staff and tagged the companies and I can't recall but a Marvel writer got triggered and started tweeting about bullying, might have been either the Squirrel Girl writer or the Spider-Gwen writer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 09:23:38 No.86752453 Report

Quoted By:

>>86752308
>ot triggered and started tweeting about bullying

KEK!

It was probably the Spider-Gwen writer. He seems like a massive faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 09:28:11 No.86752496 Report

Quoted By:

>>86751728
Given they both said Spiderman instead of Spider-man, it's entirely possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 09:28:25 No.86752500 Report

Quoted By: >>86752550

>>86740433
Is it also lying if the Marvel universe IS still the same again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 09:32:53 No.86752550 Report

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>>86752500
No, that would be considered what is called a fluff. Similar to claiming your product is "the greatest BLANK of all time" or "America's number one".

It would be reasonable to assume that a person reading it would not consider it a promise or guarantee of NEVER BEING THE SAME AGAIN.

The incorrect solicit could be considered false advertising, unless Marvel released a correction or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 10:16:30 No.86752991 Report

Quoted By: >>86753181

>>86741745
Those rooms don't even have doors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 10:30:53 No.86753109 Report

Quoted By:

>>86748992
Axel Alonso. Marvel's Editor-in-Chief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 10:36:10 No.86753151 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740364
>He is, but he's in business to bleed his money into Diamond's pockets

The tree of Liberalism needs to be fed with a constant stream of simpleton's blood, Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 10:40:06 No.86753181 Report

Quoted By:

>>86752991

Because its a cut out perspective, you cant see all of the room

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 10:43:49 No.86753218 Report

Quoted By:

>>86740449
So that makes it ok?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Oct 2016 11:34:23 No.86753794 Report

Quoted By:

>>86746479
Im on mobile right now bu im sure some /co/marades have plenty of examples

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