Really, I think the entire Arkham series shot itself in the foot over how much they used the Joker.
In the 1st game, Arkham Asylum, he's the main villain, which is fine because it's a good start to the series, especially since it takes place in Arkham asylum itself.
Arkham City, he's one of the main villains, and the plot revolves around him a lot, but he at least dies in the end, so you think you won't see more of him right? Wrong.
Arkham Origins has Joker as one of the main villains AGAIN. This is really when the overexposure started to set in.
Arkham Knight then got so ridiculous with it, and even with the Joker dead, he somehow STILL plays an important part in the game.>>85802115
Exactly! That's what made it so ridiculous. The Joker is dead, just let him be gone for good. You don't have to bring him back in a half-assed form like that. It only makes people tired of how you cling onto the Joker so much. They would've been better off with just making Two-Face much more important and pivotal in Arkham Knight. That's part of why I'm liking All-star Batman, as even Two-face himself essentially says that with Joker out of the picture, he's the top dog now, and it's his time to be the baddest motherfucker around. That's how it should've roughly been in Arkham Knight.