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It's over...the Bat Chads won!

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 15:49:12 2021 No.126472202 View Reply Original Report

https://screenrant.com/batman-fatigue-not-real-dc-comic-sales-up/

How does he do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:49:56 No.126472210 Report

Quoted By: >>126472722 >>126477566

Batman and Daredevil are the only good cape heroes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:50:31 No.126472216 Report

Quoted By: >>126472233 >>126472234 >>126472286 >>126472704 >>126472827 >>126473527 >>126477442 >>126478579

It helps that Tom Taylor purposely crippled Superman sales

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:50:33 No.126472217 Report

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>>126472202
That sounds something a Batfag would say

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:51:20 No.126472233 Report

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>>126472216
Nobody wants Faglad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:51:24 No.126472234 Report

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>>126472216
That would imply they were good before him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:51:50 No.126472239 Report

Quoted By: >>126472260 >>126472287 >>126474036 >>126479757 >>126481505

Bullshit. Everything has a fatigue point.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:53:15 No.126472260 Report

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>>126472239
Well, faggot, it isn't reached yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:54:31 No.126472283 Report

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>>126472202
well, when everything's 90% bat-related...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:54:50 No.126472286 Report

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>>126472216
The constant creator shuffling on the superbooks when Didio came to power already did that. By the time WB fired him, Superman was down to two ongoings and most of the spinoff titles like Supergirl/Superboy were no longer viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:54:51 No.126472287 Report

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>>126472239
t. faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 15:55:35 No.126472300 Report

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>>126472202
Superfags can’t relate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:08:12 No.126472447 Report

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>>126472202
>basically the only cape hero that isn't pozzed
>single handily keeps the dying comic industry afloat
>superfags are literally faggots now
feels good to be a batchad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:21:49 No.126472627 Report

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>>126472202
Batman always sold,only time he didn't sell was a bit in the 50's till new look era and he sold pretty well during that only little dive till Denny O'Neil came along and been good sells nonstop for like almost 50 years.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:23:15 No.126472644 Report

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:27:02 No.126472690 Report

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>>126472202

He is republican. Big money party son

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:27:45 No.126472704 Report

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>>126472216
>Superfags STILL seething BatCHADS are the most successful part of DC
Sad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:28:47 No.126472722 Report

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>>126472210

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:29:44 No.126472742 Report

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>>126472202
I'm fucking fatigued and I don't give a shit what the sales numbers say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:30:37 No.126472754 Report

Quoted By: >>126472806 >>126472924 >>126472936 >>126472954 >>126473292 >>126473385 >>126473501 >>126474068 >>126477420 >>126481985

How do people not get tired of it? Spider-Man isn't nearly as pervasive as in his setting as Batman is in his own universe, despite being more popular than Batman, people even got sick of Wolverine when they kept putting him everywhere, but how is it that Batman is the only one that can get away with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:33:29 No.126472806 Report

Quoted By: >>126473534

>>126472754
It has to be that people are just automatically buying Batman regardless of quality or interest.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:33:44 No.126472807 Report

Quoted By: >>126472833 >>126472899

>use to live batman as a kid
>was a pretentious teen who acted like I was too good for batman
>grow older and appreciate bat's on a new level.
Granted I've never read past Morrison's epic. But from post crisis till then I've got nothing but lovee for most bat books.

And a lot of pre crisis stuff like denny o'neils stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:34:52 No.126472827 Report

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>>126472216
>implying Superman would otherwise sell
Hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:35:21 No.126472833 Report

Quoted By: >>126473013

>>126472807
I've always liked Batman been following him around in comics and shit since before I could read and most early comics I read where Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:35:54 No.126472840 Report

Quoted By: >>126472898 >>126473189

>Batman writer James Tynion IV recently discussed the idea of the Batman franchise as its own comic universe comparable to the huge roster of the X-Men, with the hero acting as the strong backbone of the wider Gotham 'universe,' and that would certainly explain how so many Batman comics only continue to invite fan interest.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:39:44 No.126472898 Report

Quoted By: >>126472956 >>126474131

>>126472840
Its true. Batman's supporting cast can cover a whole variety of character archetypes people love on their own, while being able to rely on the batbook mythos as support

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:39:51 No.126472899 Report

Quoted By: >>126473013

>>126472807
You're a cool lad. Go give Dark Prince Charming by Marini a read, only post-Morrison Batman story worth reading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:41:30 No.126472924 Report

Quoted By: >>126472970 >>126473099

>>126472754
He has the most compelling rogues' gallery and and setting in comics, and the fact that he's inherently a street-level character helps act as guardrails for writers, as stories typically become less compelling the further away from street level they get.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:41:41 No.126472926 Report

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>>126472202
It's been like this decades. People never learn. Batman always sells.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:42:09 No.126472936 Report

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>>126472754
Wolverine was pretty boring, the more people read of him the more his mystique wore off. Spider-man too is pretty one note but he still has a lot of titles and spin offs, they just don't sell that much because they're pretty same-y. Batman is just a versatile character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:43:14 No.126472954 Report

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>>126472754
It's easy to say Batman sells when you add Batman to everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:43:17 No.126472956 Report

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>>126472898
I wish we had a book that was like Legends Of The Dark Knight or Detective before Knightfall though went back to normal till No Man's Land and now it been stuck that way but when it just one shot or short stories not apart of any big thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:44:23 No.126472970 Report

Quoted By: >>126472997

>>126472924
Batman is not street level and his rogues gallery hasn't been compelling since the 80s.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:46:26 No.126472997 Report

Quoted By: >>126473016 >>126473040 >>126473065 >>126473153

>>126472970
They don't even use his rouges and only new ones that have stuck besides Hush is all from Alan Grant run and only a few.....that was 40 years ago.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:47:12 No.126473013 Report

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>>126472833
I liked batman as a kid too. I was born in 88 so the movie was just out when I was young and there was like 10 whole years of batmania. Then I turned 10 and got into 2000ad (and as it was anti American and anti Cape I slowly became bitter towards capes). As I got older I realised who cares what you like.

>>126472899
I'll give a look lad. Cheers for the rec.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:47:49 No.126473016 Report

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>>126472997
Anarky,Ventrilloquist,Zsasz and Ratcatcher (thanks to the movie lol).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:49:14 No.126473030 Report

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I got into Batman for the first time this year. I checked out all the major recommendations. Some is great, some is crap. I think I'm over him now. Green Lantern has been a way better experience overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:50:07 No.126473040 Report

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>>126472997
Think about the entire last decade of Batman where it's been nothing but like one single villain holding the entire city of Gotham hostage.
And more often then not it was the joker.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:51:37 No.126473065 Report

Quoted By: >>126473077 >>126473092 >>126473153 >>126479379

>>126472997
There's also Bane, and the Court of Owls seems like its getting a decent push.

Problem is so many new Batman villains are wrecks of designs and concept. Remember this garbage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:52:30 No.126473074 Report

Quoted By: >>126473096

>>126472202
ummmm superbros... care to explain?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:52:41 No.126473077 Report

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>>126473065
I like the court of owls better when it was the league of assassins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:53:32 No.126473092 Report

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>>126473065
Yeah the older Batman villains and ''modern'' as in like 40/30 years ago one keep the designs and concepts real simple and basic like you could take most of Grant villains or Bane and fit them into the original 1940's comics with no change,the newer villains are too out of place cuz they're too modern for that to ever work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:53:41 No.126473096 Report

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>>126473074
Sure, ironically shitposting is still shitposting and you're adding nothing to the conversation so go neck yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:53:43 No.126473099 Report

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>>126472924
Too bad most writters don't write him as a street level hero anymore, they ruin his appeal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:57:38 No.126473153 Report

Quoted By: >>126473225

>>126472997
Morrison tried. The only one that seems to have stuck around is Pyg. Jury's out on whether anyone besides Seeley will be brave enough to use Doctor Hurt again.
Same with Snyder, but the Black Mirror arc villains are largely forgotten, James Jr. is dead and while Owls are probably now considered reocurring members of his rogues gallery, their lack of central figure really limits them.
>>126473065
I dunno if I agree here. Sure, there are other cases, but the Designer was never meant to be anything other than a red herring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 16:59:11 No.126473171 Report

Quoted By: >>126473184

>>126472202
MCU fatigue isn’t real either for the same reason only it’s more wide spread.

Comic sales don’t rly amount to much. Marvel has been stomping them forever now but it doesn’t actually make a difference. Comic sales are literally whatever to these companies. IP farms at best, ignored outright at worst. But The Batman is proof of this as well. Fatigue is just a individual perception. Doesn’t rly occur and won’t to the MCU and Batman for along time still.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:00:14 No.126473184 Report

Quoted By: >>126473199

>>126473171
That's what people said about westerns too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:00:45 No.126473189 Report

Quoted By: >>126473218 >>126473233 >>126482058

>>126472840
I honestly wish DC would just embrace this and give Batman a title that is separate from DC Universe. I want street level Bats, him being part of all this space shit and all that has never appealed to me. Basically do Ultimate line but only with Batman and no shared shit, so no Superman or anything it’s only Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:01:17 No.126473199 Report

Quoted By: >>126473253

>>126473184
>yfw the Italians start doing spaghetti capes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:02:39 No.126473218 Report

Quoted By: >>126473244 >>126473257 >>126481598

>>126473189
Batman was never a street level superhero you dumb jackass.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:03:11 No.126473225 Report

Quoted By: >>126479411

>>126473153
>I dunno if I agree here. Sure, there are other cases, but the Designer was never meant to be anything other than a red herring.

Its hard to tell what is or isn't permanent, like this eyesore over here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:03:45 No.126473233 Report

Quoted By: >>126473261

>>126473189
There are always occasional titles that do this though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:04:32 No.126473244 Report

Quoted By: >>126473289

>>126473218
His first story ever seems quite noir to me, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:05:13 No.126473253 Report

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>>126473199
They already have Italian Spider-Man as a template.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:05:47 No.126473257 Report

Quoted By: >>126473289

>>126473218
>comic started as detective comics
>it was him beating up thugs and shit

Mother fucker are you dense? Did comic start with him fighting aliens in space retard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:05:56 No.126473261 Report

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>>126473233
Yeah, the black label.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:07:55 No.126473289 Report

Quoted By: >>126473318 >>126473322 >>126481619

>>126473244
>>126473257
You guys don't know what street level is. The Question is street level, Batman has been fighting mad scientist and literal monsters since day one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:08:00 No.126473292 Report

Quoted By: >>126473303 >>126473364 >>126473414

>>126472754
Batman has much more compelling villains and side characters than most capes. There's several Batman media that doesn't even focus on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:09:04 No.126473303 Report

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>>126473292
>Batman has much more compelling villains and side characters than most capes
No he doesn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:10:28 No.126473318 Report

Quoted By: >>126473341

>>126473289
>hurrr question is street level

I’m sure if I cared enough I could debunk this ass argument. I only care enough to say you are the jackass and you are wrong. Now go tell your mom how you totally owned some dude on the internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:10:51 No.126473322 Report

Quoted By: >>126473331 >>126473360

>>126473289
Spider-Man is street level as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:11:30 No.126473331 Report

Quoted By: >>126473360

>>126473322
And Daredevil, it’s like that anon is wrong or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:12:10 No.126473341 Report

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>>126473318
Let's not pretend you have anything better to do with your life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:13:49 No.126473360 Report

Quoted By: >>126473413 >>126473759

>>126473322
>>126473331
They're more street level then Batman who has been fighting aliens invaders since the fucking 50s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:14:11 No.126473364 Report

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>>126473292
>Batman has much more compelling villains and side characters than most capes.
I'd contend that, they all become one-note as fuck very quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:14:29 No.126473375 Report

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>>126472202
It's something fascinating really. I mean I like Batman but I've had my fill for the rest of my life at this point. I don't know how people can just keep on going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:15:13 No.126473385 Report

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>>126472754
Batman is REALLY cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:16:58 No.126473413 Report

Quoted By: >>126473587

>>126473360
Unless I’m wrong isn’t that silver age Batman? I’m talking CORE of the fucking character. To his core he is street level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:16:59 No.126473414 Report

Quoted By: >>126473428 >>126473468

>>126473292
This. There's way more people who know characters like Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, etc are than other cape villains. Nobody cares about Reverse-Flash, Cheetah, Sinestro or Darkseid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:17:51 No.126473428 Report

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>>126473414
Being well known is the same as compelling though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:20:31 No.126473468 Report

Quoted By: >>126473628

>>126473414
Normies know about them because those villains have been in the public eye since the '60s. Penguin isn't more interesting than Sinestro, Atrocitus or Larfleeze, he's just had way more exposure. It's a fault of management, not a fault of the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:22:39 No.126473501 Report

Quoted By: >>126473560

>>126472754
Because everyone likes Batman?

>No I don't.
That's a lie?

The Burton Films?
Btas?
Batman Beyond?
The Nolan Films?
Batman the Brave and the Bold?
The Arkham Games?
Lego Batman (the games and/or the movie)
Adam West?

The premise is so fundamentally engaging and interesting and it's been handled by such talent that just by statistics alone he is DCs best hero if you judge quality of content (by it's peaks)

And it causes a rich get richer effect. Batman is awesome so everyone wants to write Batman which means just statistically the great Batman stories float to the top which makes Batman MORE awesome and the cycle continues.

Our fucking great grandkids will be taking about new Batman content.

Batman and Robin will never die.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:24:16 No.126473527 Report

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>>126472216
All Batman characters are bi though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:24:38 No.126473534 Report

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>>126472806
This seems like the likely case and it's not a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:26:24 No.126473560 Report

Quoted By: >>126478528

>>126473501
>The premise is so fundamentally engaging and interesting
No it's not

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:28:19 No.126473587 Report

Quoted By: >>126473643 >>126473682

>>126473413
He fought magic vampires in his first year of publication. One of Batman's strengths is how malebale it is. It can be gritty or silly, down to earth to fantastical, magic or sci Fi. And it all works. How many characters are just as kino in a cyberpunk setting as they are punching Godzilla?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:30:57 No.126473628 Report

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>>126473468
Sadly the fault of the management has no negative downsides so they have no reason to try anything else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:31:58 No.126473643 Report

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>>126473587
>How many characters are just as kino in a cyberpunk setting as they are punching Godzilla?
Literally any of them if you give them the same support DC does to Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:34:15 No.126473682 Report

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>>126473587
And mobsters in his first appearance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:35:27 No.126473699 Report

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>>126472202
There's a reason why WB keeps making Batman movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:39:29 No.126473748 Report

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It hasn't even been a full year of DC's new bat-heavy line. Bat Fatigue isn't happening yet. It could happen eventually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:40:10 No.126473759 Report

Quoted By: >>126473919

>>126473360
I don't think I've ever seen anyone try to argue that Batman isn't street level and then proceed to try to say that Spider-Man is more street level than him. Peter has been on adventures with the Avengers and the F4 for several decades. His entire rogues gallery are all super powered criminals. He's still street level and Batman is still street level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:50:29 No.126473919 Report

Quoted By: >>126473993

>>126473759
>I don't think I've ever seen anyone try to argue that Batman isn't street level and then proceed to try to say that Spider-Man is more street level than him
Because it's true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:54:51 No.126473993 Report

Quoted By: >>126474029

>>126473919
Batman has no superpowers. That makes him more street level than a person with spider-sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:56:53 No.126474029 Report

Quoted By: >>126474079 >>126474080

>>126473993
Batman gets involved in bullshit like Dark Nights metal meaning Spider-man is more street level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:57:17 No.126474036 Report

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>>126472239

People keep talking about "superhero fatigue", but cape movies keep making bank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:57:34 No.126474041 Report

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>>126472202
Trust me there is Batman fatigue, and I’ve hit it already

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:59:01 No.126474068 Report

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>>126472754
>How do people not get tired of it?
You think they would because Batman hasn't been any good since 2016 so that means Batman comics just don't care about the quality and are just buying for the sake of buying Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:59:16 No.126474079 Report

Quoted By: >>126474098

>>126474029
>Spider-man is more street level
Despite the vampires or Mephisto?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 17:59:19 No.126474080 Report

Quoted By: >>126474118

>>126474029

Spiderman gets involved in alien and supernatural stuff way more often than Batman does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 18:00:03 No.126474098 Report

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>>126474079
That's like the ceiling for him but base level for Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 18:01:04 No.126474118 Report

Quoted By: >>126474162 >>126474309

>>126474080
No, Batman does. Spider-man is not a full blown avenger like Batman is a full blown justice leaguer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 18:01:33 No.126474131 Report

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>>126472898
Me on the bottom right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 18:02:55 No.126474162 Report

Quoted By: >>126474188

>>126474118
>Spider-man is not a full blown avenger
But he has virtually been a member of the FF.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 18:04:28 No.126474188 Report

Quoted By: >>126474309

>>126474162
But not really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 18:11:22 No.126474309 Report

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>>126474118
>>126474188

Doesn't matter if he's with the avengers or the FF. Spiderman deals with weird alien and supernatural stuff more often than Batman does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 18:43:34 No.126474856 Report

Quoted By: >>126476971

>>126472202
It is very hard to fuck up Batman. The only person who managed that was Tom King for making a thrity issue build-up to a wedding that turned out to be a Ponzi scheme. Then a ten issue hallucination.

As long as you don’t do what Tom Kong did, you are fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 20:59:25 No.126476971 Report

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>>126474856
I don't think it's so much that it's hard to fuck him up, rather than a lot of people are just willing to eat whatever is on their plate because Batman is on it. Even at his lowest point with King, he was still doing better than most comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 21:22:42 No.126477420 Report

Quoted By: >>126483794

>>126472754
Batman doesn't rely on continuity too much, nor are 90% of his stories trying to retcon the other 10%. It's more easy to get into compared to Wolverine, where you also have to read a shit ton of X books to understand what the fuck is even happening.
And Spider-man is just a miserable soap opera where nothing good happens to Peter, ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 21:23:44 No.126477442 Report

Quoted By: >>126477781 >>126478209 >>126479004 >>126479443 >>126480561

>>126472216
Except they just made Tim bi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 21:30:56 No.126477566 Report

Quoted By: >>126479305

>>126472210
Conan and Constantine are better.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 21:43:56 No.126477758 Report

Quoted By: >>126478010

How many current Bat books right now? Regular series and minis. In the 90s/00s there were 4 montlys plus 1 or 2 miniseries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 21:45:48 No.126477781 Report

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>>126477442
90's batkids are expendable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:03:10 No.126478010 Report

Quoted By: >>126478420

>>126477758
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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:15:46 No.126478209 Report

Quoted By: >>126478243 >>126478275 >>126484875

>>126477442
Everyone has been expecting Tim to be gay or bi since over 10 years and this is also something that some people actually wanted. Nobody is happy with Jon DC managed to piss of "right" readers and i'm sure they expected that but i'm not sure if they were ready from their "besties" backlash because of all the people they made mad by proxy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:17:48 No.126478243 Report

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>>126478209
I refuse, refuse to believe that DC is retarded enough to not realize how much TimKon, supersonsfags and connerfags would get pissed about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:19:16 No.126478275 Report

Quoted By: >>126478374

>>126478209
>Everyone has been expecting Tim to be gay or bi since over 10 years

Try like 30. He comes off as a little queer in his first appearance. There's Usenet speculation about it(as well as a ton of fanfiction of course. There's 90's comics where he has gay body language. The only people upset are self-inserters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:25:17 No.126478374 Report

Quoted By: >>126478474 >>126479303

>>126478275
No one who wrote Tim in the 90s intended for him to come across as gay, the people who saw it that way were looking at it through yaoi goggles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:28:28 No.126478420 Report

Quoted By: >>126479366

>>126478010
Holy shit, is DC putting out more books, less non Batman books or both?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:31:00 No.126478474 Report

Quoted By: >>126478492

>>126478374
Of course not, but its a visual medium. That said, DC didn't help with the "his colors :(" stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:32:36 No.126478492 Report

Quoted By: >>126479303

>>126478474
He's a wealthy preppie, that's what they looked like in the 90s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:35:25 No.126478528 Report

Quoted By:

>>126473560
What an engaging and interesting counterpoint.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:37:38 No.126478565 Report

Quoted By: >>126479203

>>126472202
the only ones who ever claimed batman fatigue was thing was superfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:38:32 No.126478579 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472216
I blame Bendis more but fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:45:49 No.126478694 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472202
He's not a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:50:14 No.126478752 Report

Quoted By: >>126479068

>>126472202
It is for me. I'm not giving The Batman any of my money, I'll watch Bale if I want some

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:57:54 No.126478888 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472202
people just like dark escapist stories and characters like the ones Batman has

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 22:59:49 No.126478921 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472202
I love Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:03:40 No.126479004 Report

Quoted By:

>>126477442
Tim is like the third spare Robin you use when you can't get a Batgirl or one of the other spare Robins isn't available. Which is never.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:06:39 No.126479068 Report

Quoted By: >>126479143 >>126479368

>>126478752
Okay this is pathetic bullshit of a bait article so let's start shall we?
Batman has over 15 more comic issues released daily at the same fucking time so that buyers can see which one is meant for them so its not surprising about this of their operations. That being said, Batman comics are NOT selling what they used to be. Supes and his faggy son maybe down in the fall of their mockery. But seriously let's not act like we know how Batman comics operations work. This is a common thinking and this is blatantly a bait article..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:08:10 No.126479093 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472202
I like batman and catwoman a lot but I wish the batfamily wasn't so bloated

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:10:23 No.126479139 Report

Quoted By:

Why is it I get to a point in my life when I'm long done with Batman and read others then everybody else jumps aboard the Batwagon and its all you see on this fucking board?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:10:30 No.126479143 Report

Quoted By:

>>126479068
>Batman has over 15 more comic issues released daily at the same fucking time so that buyers can see which one is meant for them so its not surprising about this of their operations
Basically this, not to mention its not even working anymore for DC. This bait article is pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:13:27 No.126479203 Report

Quoted By:

>>126478565
I'm not a superfag but I got sick of batstuff too. I just want the actual DCU to be aknowledged instead of being used as cameos for Batman stories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:18:08 No.126479303 Report

Quoted By:

>>126478374
No one has ever suggested Chuck Dixon was trying to subtly force a gay character either. They're separate matters.
>>126478492
>thinking being a prep makes someone especially straight
Anon, that's been a gay sex cliche for like 200 years. The only people who don't know this are, oddly enough, goths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:18:10 No.126479305 Report

Quoted By:

>>126477566
Neither of those are capes and John is definitely not a hero, I'll never recognize the ezistence of Nu52 Heckblazer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:19:08 No.126479325 Report

Quoted By: >>126479347 >>126479368

>>126472202
A) Fuck your clickbait
B) Kind of easy to exaggerate numbers when half of DC's line is fucking Bat-Books

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:20:04 No.126479347 Report

Quoted By: >>126480728

>>126479325
wonder why

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:20:48 No.126479366 Report

Quoted By:

>>126478420
They're putting out less books but most of them are batbooks. Fucking Joker has two series for him IIIRC

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:20:51 No.126479368 Report

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>>126479325
Based and informative post!
Not to mention this at >>126479068
as well.

Finally some anons knows what's up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:21:22 No.126479379 Report

Quoted By: >>126479398 >>126479435

>>126473065
The reason why Tynion kept cranking out new characters is because editorial kept telling him no whenever he kept pitching ideas with Bat-rogues and Batfamily members. So with that and Future State bullshit, coming off King's trainwreck, he said "Fuck it, I'll make my own characters".

I actually don't mind Tynion's Batman book either

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:22:09 No.126479398 Report

Quoted By: >>126479439

>>126479379
this character was gay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:22:49 No.126479411 Report

Quoted By:

>>126473225
I think the idea behind Miracle Molly was Tynion taking the piss out of Future State's cyberpunk shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:23:12 No.126479421 Report

Quoted By: >>126479460 >>126479524

Itt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:23:41 No.126479435 Report

Quoted By: >>126479477

>>126479379
This looks so wrong for a Batman design. Looks like a sci-fi shooter. guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:23:49 No.126479439 Report

Quoted By: >>126479487 >>126479500

>>126479398
He's actually pretty fun. He's just as autistic as Batman, and they have a "I can do it better than you" friendly rivalry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:24:18 No.126479443 Report

Quoted By:

>>126477442
Literally nobody pays attention to whatever number robin he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:25:04 No.126479460 Report

Quoted By: >>126479505

>>126479421
Why does it always have to come down to silly tribal wars? I don't care about Batman, Superman or Wonder Woman.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:25:37 No.126479477 Report

Quoted By: >>126481780 >>126481862 >>126481946

>>126479435
And what exactly is the "right" aesthetic for a Batman character? I'm not being a dick, I'm legit asking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:26:05 No.126479487 Report

Quoted By: >>126479526

>>126479439
Sounds like Azrael minus the friendly part

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:26:48 No.126479500 Report

Quoted By: >>126479526

>>126479439
Yea and I don't like it. Looks like a chuuni character from an anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:26:55 No.126479505 Report

Quoted By: >>126480531 >>126480571

>>126479460
Because that guy is a insecure faggot with an axe to grind against Superfags for some reason. Even before the Jon bomb, we have some seriously unhinged anti-supes shitposters posting here. I think part of it is board culture directly conflicting with Superman's ideals and personality but that's just speculation on my part really

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:28:07 No.126479524 Report

Quoted By: >>126480571

>>126479421
The people seething the most about batbooks aren't the superfags, it's all the fans of DC's C and D-listers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:28:18 No.126479526 Report

Quoted By: >>126479667

>>126479487
Azrael is just fucking schizo and borderline forgotten at this point. Is it because DC is steering clear of Catholic stuff or what?
>>126479500
Okay, cool for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:35:47 No.126479667 Report

Quoted By: >>126479723

>>126479526
I think they just don't like the characters that took over Clark and Bruce in the 90s very much. You don't see Steel very often either.
It's a pity because they're both great characters with distinct personalities but the way they got tangled in with their legacies harmed them on the long run I feel like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:38:48 No.126479723 Report

Quoted By:

>>126479667
>You don't see Steel very often either.
That's another, separate issue. Steel is sidelined because thanks to Shaq's box office bomb, WB executives stupidly think the character is poison

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Oct 2021 23:40:43 No.126479757 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472239
yet marvel keep making movies that make 1billion dollars

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 00:21:06 No.126480531 Report

Quoted By: >>126481366

>>126479505

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 00:22:30 No.126480561 Report

Quoted By: >>126480952

>>126477442
Damian replaced him as Robin and he never found a post-robin niche like Dick or Jason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 00:23:21 No.126480571 Report

Quoted By:

>>126479524
Yeah, I know. I actually like Superman just fine.
Posts like this >>126479505 crack me up, though, so I do what I can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 00:27:24 No.126480635 Report

Quoted By:

Will Batman will kill again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 00:33:40 No.126480728 Report

Quoted By:

>>126479347
Because Scott Snyder killed off interest in DC comics with his Batman death metal event which left Batman unscathed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 00:48:52 No.126480952 Report

Quoted By:

>>126480561
If nothing else, this is an easily distinguishable niche, on par with Damian's status as the rude one, Jason's as the slightly edgy one and Dick's as the one who's actually been pretty boring for the past 50 years but he's got a fat ass so who cares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:13:12 No.126481366 Report

Quoted By: >>126481585

>>126480531
Rent free

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:18:57 No.126481473 Report

Quoted By: >>126481637

>>126472202
Batman always beats Superman, not because Batman is darker and more brooding, but because Batman saves more people than Superman ever did.
I'm not even fucking joking, Batman protects the innocence of youth in a way that Superman never did. Superman is Moses, Batman is Christ.
But also, Batman is adamic, representing the godly quest for redemption. It's why his battle is for Neo-Babylon, Gotham, the heart of darkness. We've seen Wonder Woman get beaten up by Clayface, Superman, we've never seen a superhero go up to the League of Assassin the way Batman has.
Batman has to deal with the worst of the DC Universe, he's the flagship character, the protagonist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:20:58 No.126481505 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472239
meanwhile the MCU will be going strong into the 2050s and DC will have ten Batman ongoings at all times

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:23:15 No.126481549 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472202
batfag here. honestly i really don't give a shit about any other heroes other than batman and maybe spiderman. i don't like batman being exclusive dark a gritty but i generally lean that way. i assume most batfags are the same. he does so well because he's not really on the same level as other capeshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:25:18 No.126481585 Report

Quoted By:

>>126481366
Rent free

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:25:54 No.126481598 Report

Quoted By:

>>126473218
even if you were right (which you aren't), he's he's been street level for a while now and it's what appeals to most people. no reason he can't take this direction for the future. he wasn't always dark and gritty either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:27:05 No.126481619 Report

Quoted By:

>>126473289
scientists and monsters are street level. it's when they are planetary or galactic level threats that they are no longer street level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:27:54 No.126481637 Report

Quoted By: >>126481718

>>126481473
>Batman saves more people than Superman ever did.
The continued existence of his rogues gallery shoots that down pretty harshly.

Bait aside, one of the problems is that there are no shortage of unironic up-their-own-ass armchair philosophers on both the side of the readers and the writers that try to make Batman to be some kind of character that represents something beyond some mentally-ill rich kid playing dress up with his equally mentally-ill playmates. This plays into the notion that Batman is "mature" in contrast to other heroes, which enhances his "cool" factor. I've never seen a fandom that sniffs their own farts trying to play up their character as some sort of mythological figure as much as theirs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:30:54 No.126481692 Report

Quoted By:

>guy posts on a costume and uses his vast wealth to stop criminals
>a lot of them are mentally insane
tell me why i should read anything else if this is the only superhero premise i find appealing?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:32:30 No.126481718 Report

Quoted By: >>126482213

>>126481637
You're not as smart as you think you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:33:10 No.126481735 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472644
>letting Batfags have access to poison
That's a bad call.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:35:53 No.126481780 Report

Quoted By: >>126481904 >>126481933 >>126481946

>>126479477
classy, vintage, gothic. i don't know what the right term is because i'm a brainlet.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:40:44 No.126481862 Report

Quoted By: >>126481933 >>126481946

>>126479477
20s New York combined with World's Fair Science brought to life by Wayne Foundation. Fashion is a mix of 20s suits and flappers and 50s greasers and hot rods. Music is a combination of 40s, 50s, and 80s(synth), big Jazz town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:43:51 No.126481904 Report

Quoted By:

>>126481780
It's an interesting image choice because Gotham has often had looks that are of particular styles, while the bat characters just look like standard superheroes except they have a more black than some others. The city they live in, on the other hand, does a lot of the work in creating an aesthetic for them, and it's a combination of futurism and gothic revival with a splash of modernism and art nouveau.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:45:35 No.126481933 Report

Quoted By:

>>126481780
>>126481862
I think it's fine how Ghost Maker looks because it illustrates how he DOESN'T belong in Gotham for the reasons you said. He operates all over the globe, and it also shows how he conflicts with Batman despite being on good terms

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:46:12 No.126481946 Report

Quoted By:

>>126481862
>>126481780
>>126479477
i think the gothic/greco-roman style used in gears of war would be perfect for batman

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:49:19 No.126481985 Report

Quoted By:

>>126472754
Modern Batman is a brooding asshole, who never has to get over his trauma, gets to be better than everyone else, has a plan for everything, has tons of cool gadgets and vehicles, bangs hot chicks, is handsome as all hell, and is rich.
It's a total mystery to why people like himm

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:49:36 No.126481987 Report

Quoted By:

batman - 1930s
superman - 1960s

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 01:55:08 No.126482058 Report

Quoted By: >>126482642

>>126473189
Batman improved once he existed in the same world as Superman. The idea that Superman respects Batman and his methods that much, to leave Gotham alone, is a beautiful idea. For them to become friends/besties/brothers, is an even more beautiful idea.
Edgelord Batman is worst Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 02:03:11 No.126482213 Report

Quoted By: >>126483342

>>126481718
I'm smart enough, I'm just not up my own ass about it like Batfags tend to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 02:25:46 No.126482642 Report

Quoted By:

>>126482058
>batman is only good when sucks superman's dick
god supefags are so pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 03:07:00 No.126483342 Report

Quoted By:

>>126482213
you really are up your own ass, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 03:27:37 No.126483659 Report

Quoted By: >>126483919

Batman is more realistic and mature that the rest of the superhero shit DC pushes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 03:36:02 No.126483794 Report

Quoted By:

>>126477420
>just a miserable soap opera
Fucking this. Batman comics are about the mission first, personal life second. He stays in Gotham doing his thing unlike the ever changing Xmen. Casual readers can buy a couple of bat comics and easily know what is going on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 03:44:43 No.126483919 Report

Quoted By: >>126485369

>>126483659
>Batman
>realistic and mature

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 04:38:09 No.126484875 Report

Quoted By:

>>126478209
No one like his boyfriend just a token.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Oct 2021 05:04:42 No.126485369 Report

Quoted By:

>>126483919
even if you disagree that's the impression general audiences get reading/watching his shit so that's the reason he single handedly stop DC from going bankrupt

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