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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 03:31:53 2021 No.124246306 View Reply Original Report

So they made King Greyskull black..
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/big-spoiler-for-next-weeks-masters-of-the-universe-revelation/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:36:26 No.124246372 Report

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>>124246306
Who the fuck is even King Greyskull, and how does this genocide you exactly?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:38:38 No.124246405 Report

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>>124246306

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:42:15 No.124246456 Report

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>>124246405

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:43:27 No.124246480 Report

Quoted By: >>124246554

>>124246372
>Who the fuck is even King Greyskull,
In the 2002 He-Man reboot, Prince Adam is a 16-year-old twink instead of a bodybuilder whose clothes just disappear when he turns into He-Man.
One episode showed this dude named King Grayskull living in Castle Grayskull thousands of years ago, and he's both Prince Adam's ancestor and the person he turns into when he says Shaza-- "by the Power of Grayskull!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:46:12 No.124246522 Report

Quoted By: >>124246853

>>124246306
There are like 4 protagonists in He-Man that are even memorable/matter (He-Man, Teela, Man-at-Arms and Orko). All the rest of them are utterly forgettable red shirts. The Sorceress is just a plot Macguffin who generally needs rescue.
They can make whatever red-shirt they want Black/Mexican/Asian idgf. They still mean nothing. This "King Greyskull" sounds like a guy who's long dead, making him even less meaningful than a red shirt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:47:56 No.124246553 Report

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>>124246306
Who gives a shit. This is like when they made Shazam(the wizard) black. It's inconsequential

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:48:04 No.124246554 Report

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>>124246480
Are they even blood related? I thought Adam was just the one "chosen" by the Sorceress. His father wasn't He-Man.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:49:09 No.124246574 Report

Quoted By: >>124246593 >>124247959

>He-Man was an awfully white show back then

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:50:31 No.124246593 Report

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>>124246574
desu, I didn't even remember they HAD a black guy called Clamp Champ (lel).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:50:51 No.124246600 Report

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>>124246306
this show is heading for the toilet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:51:04 No.124246608 Report

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>>124246306
I'm pretty sure there where a bunch of He-Mans and such trough the ages, that much it's established lore.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:52:09 No.124246627 Report

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>>124246600

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:52:46 No.124246640 Report

Quoted By: >>124246658

>>124246306
Why do we brother's always gotta get the white mans hand me downs? I like He-Man and there's no reason for King Greyskull to be a nigga and all these pc morons act like they're doing us a favor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:53:20 No.124246645 Report

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>>124246608
And it wasn't a bloodline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:53:47 No.124246652 Report

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>>124246627
Amen to that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:54:22 No.124246658 Report

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>>124246640
nice Larp. (not really)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:56:16 No.124246680 Report

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>>124246306
Yeah, because these days, to even be a white male with blond hair and blue eyes is P R O B L E M A T I C

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:56:57 No.124246687 Report

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>>124246593
Heroic Master of Capture.
She-Ra had a black girl named Netossa, who captured people by throwing her net cloak.
I sense a theme.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:57:05 No.124246689 Report

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>>124246456

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:57:37 No.124246699 Report

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REEEE my show that only existed to sell merchandise has BLACK MAN

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:58:54 No.124246719 Report

Quoted By: >>124246758 >>124249030

>>124246405
>>124246456
>>124246689
what exactly is admirable about this creative decision? moreover, what is creative about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 03:59:45 No.124246733 Report

Quoted By: >>124246779

>>124246306
Why must he be black? Can't an asian be King Greyskull?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:00:18 No.124246740 Report

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>>124246689
I mean I don't really care about this female character I don't remember from the original show; but does this guy honestly think for 1 single moment that GIRLS will be tuning into this show?
There were probably 10 girls in the entire world population who watched the original GI Joe cartoon, and 9 of them were probably pissed that their brother wouldn't turn it to Strawberry Shortcake.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:01:46 No.124246756 Report

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>>124246658
I am black dipshit! and I'm tired of race swaps!

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:01:49 No.124246758 Report

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>>124246719
He's rebooting an awful toy commerical.
There's absolutely NOTHING admirable about this entire endeavor. At All.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:02:22 No.124246769 Report

Quoted By: >>124246806

>>124246689
wait, TWO characters are being blackwashed? I'm not saying they were relevant but... really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:03:00 No.124246775 Report

Quoted By: >>124246876

>>124246756
white Chud hands typed this.
YWNBABM

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:03:16 No.124246779 Report

Quoted By: >>124247562 >>124250783

>>124246733
>Why must he be black? Can't an asian be King Greyskull?
Khan Grayskull, who commanded the absolute loyalty of one million tiger-riding nomads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:04:26 No.124246800 Report

Quoted By: >>124246825 >>124246834

Damn, how did a show that got so much hype from the initial preview fall from grace so fast? As a non-white non-black person, I don't give a shit if the character is not white. I just give a shit if the character is black because in america being black means being AMERICAN BLACK. Not the cool BRITISH BLACK. Not the authentic AFRICAN BLACK. But it would be AMERICAN BLACK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:04:44 No.124246806 Report

Quoted By: >>124246829

>>124246769
Aren't there like 100+ toys-imean characters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:04:55 No.124246808 Report

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>>124246689
This guy is a fucking baizuo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:05:44 No.124246819 Report

Quoted By: >>124248992

Weren't there a lot of characters with blue skin, or green? Evil Lyn was yellow, as in the actual color. Adding a black character isn't really any different, it's another world and skin color probably doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:06:19 No.124246825 Report

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>>124246800
It's a show being produced in America. There aren't a lot of Africans or Haitians or whatever traipsing around the studio lot or trying to get cartoon voice work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:07:01 No.124246829 Report

Quoted By: >>124246872

>>124246806
what do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:07:07 No.124246830 Report

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>>124246306
I can see why they're trying to get ahead of the "ITS TOTALLY NOT ANOTHER LAST JEDI!" thing, they're afraid that second week tanking that happened to it, LOU2, pretty much everything that tries this is going to happen on week 1 instead.

I also find if funny Last Jedi's world record drop was so bad literally everyone is terrified of being associated with it, who would have thought a Star Wars property would be synonymous with "losing half of your audience?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:07:19 No.124246834 Report

Quoted By: >>124246911

>>124246800
>I just give a shit if the character is black because in america being black means being AMERICAN BLACK. Not the cool BRITISH BLACK. Not the authentic AFRICAN BLACK. But it would be AMERICAN BLACK.
A fur-clad barbarian from another planet's prehistory being AMERICAN BLACK sounds like a parody, but Those People play it straight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:07:28 No.124246837 Report

Quoted By: >>124248853

>>124246372
>genocide you
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:08:32 No.124246853 Report

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>>124246522
who cares if it's meaningful? he was conceptualized as looking exactly like He-Man so it aesthetically rhymes with Adam. you know damn well why they did this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:08:33 No.124246854 Report

Quoted By: >>124246900

>>124246306
Prince Adam And the Entire eternia royal blood line has the N word pass
>Skeletor to
Hmmm

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:09:26 No.124246872 Report

Quoted By: >>124246907 >>124246937

>>124246829
That there are way too many He-Man characters?
And one of these black characters is long-dead and might get shown in a brief flashback or two?
It's like making the "original" Shazam! a black guy in Africa 15,000 years ago, who gives a fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:09:36 No.124246876 Report

Quoted By: >>124246895 >>124246922

>>124246775
First of all, whitey what the fuck is a chud? Is that some made-up word you thought off in the spur of the moment? Fuck outta here with that weak shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:10:32 No.124246891 Report

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I think it's hilarious that America is being cucked and cancelled from within.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:11:02 No.124246895 Report

Quoted By: >>124246935

>>124246876
You are really bad at this. Clearly you don't even speak to blacks.
This is my last reply by the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:11:18 No.124246900 Report

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>>124246854
Funny thing: DC picked up the Masters of the Universe license several years back and added the twist that Skeletor's mother's race ("Gar", dark elves) were victims of racism because humans didn't forgive that one of them assassinated King Grayskull.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:11:47 No.124246907 Report

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>>124246872
>And one of these black characters is long-dead and might get shown in a brief flashback or two?
it's lame, though! kind of breaks the narrative because King Grayskull originally looked like a buffer He-Man. he's not terribly important, it's just a letdown that they got lost in the (race) sauce, for no tangible reason. your argument is "why not?" but my argument is "why?". see why you are my antipode?
>It's like making the "original" Shazam! a black guy in Africa 15,000 years ago, who gives a fuck?
no, not exactly, and the original Shazam isn't white anyway. alas, Billy is not supposed to look like Shazam

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:12:02 No.124246911 Report

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>>124246834
They will. And I'll hate it. I will hate it so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:12:48 No.124246922 Report

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>>124246876
Chad + Stud = Chud

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:13:38 No.124246935 Report

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>>124246895
Not all blacks talk the same you retard!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:13:40 No.124246937 Report

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>>124246872
I notice you all never just ignore the complaints about it, because if it truly was a case of "Who gives a fuck?", you wouldn't give a fuck if people wanted to see their toy character recreated faithfully. And he did have a toy, a bunch of them even, so someone was buying them. At the very least they can argue "I have waited like 40 years to see my toy come to life, you are advertising this on continuing that particular property, I do not like this pointless change", what do you have to argue on? That people shouldn't care about this at all-except for you defending-totalynotdefending it, of course-but people should be excited to see the continuation?

If you don't care about he-man, just let people complain about it. If you do, why do you want to change it?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:15:20 No.124246967 Report

Quoted By: >>124247005 >>124247084 >>124251229

>>124246907
Having He-Man look like "King Greyskull" is stupid, he looks like Prince Adam.
And honestly you'd think everyone would notice that Adam looks exactly like all the paintings/statues of the legendary King Greyskull.
This all smacks of shit added in a previous reboot. Are we complaining about changes to a show that changed the original show?
Let's just be honest, put our /pol/ hats on and just post "OMG BLACKS!" or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:18:29 No.124247005 Report

Quoted By: >>124247035 >>124247048 >>124247082 >>124247327

>>124246967
Adam is not supposed to look like He-Man. have you watched the 200x show? of course you haven't, because then you'd know Adam and He-Man are not indistinguishable outside of their outfits. newsflash, anon: King Grayskull is a 200X invention.
>Are we complaining about changes to a show that changed the original show?
we're pointing out that he wasn't black, and he is black now, and wherefore? no, we know wherefore. to people who liked the idea of the character, of course this is gonna suck. do you not understand such a basic concept as character design?
>Let's just be honest, put our /pol/ hats on and just post "OMG BLACKS!" or something.
so let me get this straight here. we're discussing He-Man and you want me to turn into your /pol/ strawman by talking about politics as opposed to He-Man?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:20:06 No.124247035 Report

Quoted By: >>124247071

>>124247005
>Adam is not supposed to look like He-Man. have you watched the 200x show?
As I thought, you are complaining about changes to the canon of a show that changed the canon of the original fucking show.

Honestly, just neck yourself already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:21:22 No.124247048 Report

Quoted By: >>124247077

>>124247005
King greyskull is black now get over it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:21:30 No.124247052 Report

Quoted By: >>124247064

>>124246306
We wuz kangz

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:22:23 No.124247064 Report

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>>124247052
Well it looks like that’s so

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:22:41 No.124247069 Report

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WHITE GENOCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:22:52 No.124247071 Report

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>>124247035
do you realize that in the original series Adam only looks like a clothed He-Man because of budget constraints? that is why nobody figured out he was He-Man. it's a bit tongue in cheek but that's the truth. 200X was from a more modern time so they had more leeway with designs and animation. and hey, Adam doesn't even look like He-Man, let alone 200X King Grayskull in the Netflix continuation lmao
>Honestly, just neck yourself already.
that's not nice, anon. take a seat, hyperventilate if you must

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:23:17 No.124247077 Report

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>>124247048
no

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:23:42 No.124247082 Report

Quoted By: >>124247109

>>124247005
>NOOOOOooo, YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE CANON APPEARANCES OF CHARACTERS FROM A 20-YEARS OLD SHOW, ONLY MY VERSION IS ALLOWED TO DO THAT!!
Just fucking listen to yourself.
Read your own post again and consider an hero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:23:52 No.124247084 Report

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>>124246967
>This all smacks of shit added in a previous reboot. Are we complaining about changes to a show that changed the original show?
Correct. At the very end of the original Masters of the Universe, they wanted to do a spinoff with Snake Men, dinosaurs, and He-Man's ancestor He-Ro, having adventures before Castle Grayskull was built. The dinosaurs got as far as production but not the main character, oops.
So in the second and last season of the 2002 reboot, they wrote a flashback episode about He-Man's ancestor King Grayskull, who lived in Castle Grayskull and fought Snake Men and the Horde.
Around 2009, Mattel started a direct-to-consumer line of action figures and the brand manager wrote a bit of fiction declaring that the two characters had been in their prime at the exact same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:24:16 No.124247090 Report

Quoted By: >>124247107

Wait, does this imply He-Man is culturally appropriating?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:24:42 No.124247093 Report

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>not one mention of white genocide from people who dislike this change
>anons insist on bringing it up as a strawman
huh?
You'd think we're getting raid or something... nah, that couldn't be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:25:37 No.124247107 Report

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>>124247090
No, though I would dig it if he's transformed by purple lightning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:25:44 No.124247109 Report

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>>124247082
what would I be changing? I'm not changing anything.. seek counseling

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:27:57 No.124247134 Report

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>>124247109
2000's He-Man made visual changes to the characters of the original show
THIS show makes visual changes to the characters of the original show
You are whining that the new show violates canon by making changes, it should follow the 2000's interpretation for raisins.
This is a stupid argument.
You are stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:30:46 No.124247166 Report

Quoted By: >>124247176 >>124247390

>>124246306
>He-Man's ancient ancestor was black

So were yours OP.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:31:27 No.124247176 Report

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>>124247166

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:34:18 No.124247199 Report

Quoted By: >>124247270

>>124247134
what are these mental gymnastics, friendo?
>2000's He-Man made visual changes to the characters of the original show
yes, they changed the outfits. your point being?
>THIS show makes visual changes to the characters of the original show
this is a continuation of the original show, at the least it's its own thing and at the most it's a retcon. again, what is your point? to act as though King Grayskull being black is the same as 200X Adam being a twink with a different outfit to the OG is laughable, and if you can't see why this is then you've made up your mind beyond any shadow of honest dialogue before we started rambling autistically about this show. regardless, my point stands... OG Adam is not supposed to look like He-Man.
>You are whining
I AM SILLY!
>that the new show violates canon by making changes
I'm saying I don't like that King Grayskull is black because it's cool if he looks like He-Man instead. if he were a ginger I'd be saying the same thing
>it should follow the 2000's interpretation
not necessarily, just port King Grayskull as he looked there, since the design was basically identical to He-Man's, with an added fur cloak. 200X He-Man basically looking identical to his OG self
>This is a stupid argument.
>You are stupid.
I disagree with your interpretation of my intellectual capabilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:38:05 No.124247244 Report

Quoted By: >>124247270 >>124247296

I am black. I enjoyed these white characters. I don't need an interesting character to match my skin pigmentation or me to enjoy them. What backwards thinking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:39:45 No.124247270 Report

Quoted By: >>124247290 >>124247330

>>124247244
Anon, we are all black in this thread. Even this turbo-autist >>124247199
You really think white people would complain this loudly about the race-swapping of side-characters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:41:14 No.124247290 Report

Quoted By: >>124247326

>>124247270
excuse you, I'm hispanic. I don't have a horse in the oscillations of crackers and negroes, i just like He-Man very very much

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:41:31 No.124247295 Report

Quoted By: >>124247338

Anyone who's still in this thread and NOT black should immediately leave. (no raciss)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:41:37 No.124247296 Report

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>>124247244
Well I do. Sit in the back of the bus Ruckus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:43:56 No.124247326 Report

Quoted By: >>124247337

>>124247290
I want tacos NOW! chop chop Pablo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:43:58 No.124247327 Report

Quoted By: >>124247366

>>124247005
>Adam is not supposed to look like He-Man.

There are literally stories where Adam loses the sword so he can’t transform anymore, so he gets buff and then looks EXACTLY like He-Man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:44:08 No.124247330 Report

Quoted By: >>124247372

>>124247270
>You really think white people would complain this loudly about the race-swapping of side-characters?
White people specifically leftists complain about "racism" and "inequality" more than blacks.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:45:13 No.124247337 Report

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>>124247326
ayayay... here's my favorite, beef brain tacos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:45:15 No.124247338 Report

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>>124247295
>Black people are not allowed to think differently
This kind of thinking won't get you far.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:46:51 No.124247362 Report

Quoted By: >>124247389 >>124248306

If they're going that route, I want this dude in it:

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:47:14 No.124247366 Report

Quoted By: >>124247405

>>124247327
so what you're saying is he doesn't look like He-Man and needs to get fit to look like He-Man. if you met a regular joe and then met an Arnold tier bodybuilder with the same face the next day would you assume it's the same guy? possibly, especially in a cartoon, but you get the idea, surely?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:47:49 No.124247372 Report

Quoted By: >>124247413 >>124247455

>>124247330
Where? Because all I'm exposed to are rightoids endlessly screeching about "character X is now black".
I don't have to go on Twatter or some shit do I?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:49:00 No.124247389 Report

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>>124247362
I mean, that's King Greyskull?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:49:00 No.124247390 Report

Quoted By: >>124249303

>>124247166
>he still believes in this "out of africa" garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:50:25 No.124247405 Report

Quoted By: >>124247423

>>124247366
I’m saying Adam and He-Man looking alike has been a thing they’ve played with for ages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:51:08 No.124247413 Report

Quoted By: >>124247429

>>124247372
yes... people don't like it when characters are race bent, especially in the current climate. this doesn't have to make them politically obsessed lunatics. you just can't comprehend somebody not liking this concept, can you? that's why you create this pantomime in your head. unfortunate...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:52:17 No.124247423 Report

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>>124247405
please answer the question, yes or no, would you think it's the same guy?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:52:28 No.124247426 Report

Quoted By: >>124247463

Beyond monkey wrenched and I pray the backlash against He-Teela is significant and the ratings surprisingly low. I hope this turd gets mocked so bad they think twice before embarrassing themselves with another dusty property. I'd rather shows stay forgotten then brought back as a mutilated zombie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:52:32 No.124247429 Report

Quoted By: >>124247471 >>124247487 >>124247493

>>124247413
I would like to think that these people have more pressing and adult concerns than some made-up-after-the-fact character like King Greyskull being a person of color.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:53:08 No.124247440 Report

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Early reviewers confirm the rumors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:54:29 No.124247453 Report

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>>124246658
It's not a larp because larp requires roleplay in real life. Hence the "Live action." In this case, it's just RP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:54:43 No.124247455 Report

Quoted By: >>124247482

>>124247372
social media and IRL protesting.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:55:22 No.124247463 Report

Quoted By: >>124247534 >>124247567

>>124247426
See, that's how I felt about the last Nu-He-Man show, but apparently people in this thread think THAT interpretation is sacred canon that must be kept, and I don't understand it.

It's like someone making another OST movie reboot and being pissed that it deviates from JJ Abrams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:55:50 No.124247471 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247429
I'm sure they do too, but leisure time is something we can all enjoy (I HOPE this is your leisure time and not your job. wink wink). and point me to the hysterical right wing nuts you believe are in this very thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:56:06 No.124247472 Report

Quoted By:

>Dude why are you talking about a cartoon on a cartoon image board.

I've seen these half arsed arguments constantly with any criticism about the He-man show, as if we're not allowed to have an opinion about whatever bait and switch political bullshittery they're trying because for some reason, it's in a cartoon.

No shit the cartoon board talks about changes to a cartoon, you're basically talking nonsense by pointing that out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:56:21 No.124247475 Report

Quoted By: >>124247501 >>124247507

>>124246306
And this is an outrage because King Grayskull was such a beloved charac- oh wait nobody cared about him because he was literally just background lore for most of the franchise's existence. But just the idea of being black is bad, apparently. Racist, much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:56:48 No.124247482 Report

Quoted By: >>124247508

>>124247455
So Twatter.
I have never in my (long for 4chan) life seen anyone irl protesting the race of a movie or cartoon character.
People who bring Twatter shitfests to 4chan deserve a prolonged beating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:56:54 No.124247487 Report

Quoted By: >>124247542 >>124247615 >>124247682

>>124247429
>I would like to think that these people have more pressing and adult concerns than some made-up-after-the-fact character like King Greyskull being a person of color.
Why is this the go to leftist response to just shit on whatever the topic is and berate it with scorched earth tactics? This is a cartoons and comics board where we discuss comics and cartoons. We all clearly have some investment in it if we are in this thread. There being "bigger problems in the world" doesn't change that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:57:15 No.124247493 Report

Quoted By: >>124247529

>>124247429
I mean, aren't you here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:57:49 No.124247501 Report

Quoted By: >>124247639

>>124247475
Was he even MENTIONED in Original He-Man???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:58:20 No.124247507 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247475
It's a problem because Adam is supposed to be the spitting image of King Greyskull, whose a King Arthur like figure destined to return.

Or are they going to ignore the fact Adam is basically supposed to BE King Greyskull and that means King Greyskull literally becomes a white guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:58:23 No.124247508 Report

Quoted By: >>124247561

>>124247482
>I have never in my (long for 4chan) life seen anyone irl protesting the race of a movie or cartoon character.
You are changing what I said. Here is what I said again
>White people specifically leftists complain about "racism" and "inequality" more than blacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 04:59:50 No.124247529 Report

Quoted By: >>124247558 >>124247577

>>124247493
I don't have any pressing concerns though.
I'm not even really concerned about THIS, I only watched the original run of He-Man, and don't see the problem with yet another reinterpretation.
I certainly don't see the issue with it deviating from the reinterpretation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:00:13 No.124247534 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247463
it was a good adaptation. I contend that it is better than the OG. What's your point? They're taking a character from 200X... but not really because they completely changed his design and narrative rhythmic purpose. you can't be this dense
>It's like someone making another OST movie reboot and being pissed that it deviates from JJ Abrams.
no, not really, since Netflix is doing a continuation and not a reboot, and they're taking a cool character from 200X and making him black for no reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:00:41 No.124247542 Report

Quoted By: >>124247571

>>124247487
It's called a Mot and bailey tactic, When pressed as to why race bending is a thing, most leftists will retreat to the default of insulting the entire product to try and downplay the twisting of established characters.

It's so when they're proven to be fucking idiots, they can dismiss the entire argument and feel like they've won.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:01:51 No.124247558 Report

Quoted By: >>124247599

>>124247529
ok but other people do. Are you one of those people where your parents raised you with the mindset that you are always right and opinions of others are to be ignored because their special little boy is always right?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:02:22 No.124247561 Report

Quoted By: >>124247593

>>124247508
And again, I don't go to Twatter, I just lurk on 4chan when I'm doing social media, and all I hear is you types ENDLESSLY bitching about this sort of shit.
I don't even give a single shit about Amazon's discount bullshit Lord of the Rings, but I will have to wade through 100,000 threads of raging about it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:02:27 No.124247562 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246306
Don't really have an issue with this, it works fine. Buff warrior dude isn't something exclusive to any one race. This Grayskull looks cool.

>>124246779
honestly that'd be great.

Makes me want a teamup with White, Black, and a Mongol Grayskull

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:02:50 No.124247567 Report

Quoted By: >>124247616

>>124247463
Nah more like Nu-He-Man was mediocre with some bright spot but light years better than the upcoming He-Teela. Man-At-Arms, Trap Jaw Beast-Man etc. aesthetics were all improved but scrawny Adam and King Grayskull were misfires. The original cartoon sucked I prefer early mini comics dangerous angry Conan Viking warlord version of He-Man, he was a wrecking ball the universe feared and respected from a safe distance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:03:02 No.124247571 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247542
>Mot and bailey tactic
I have seen leftists use this fallacy so many times and wasn't aware it had a name. Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:03:32 No.124247577 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247529
>I don't have any pressing concerns though.
Sad! So you're here arguing about a made-up-after-the-fact character being black and berating those who didn't want him to be black, this is your life? Are you a shill?
>I'm not even really concerned about THIS
yet you keep defending the change... funny, innit?
>I certainly don't see the issue with it deviating from the reinterpretation.
yeah, story wise. STORY WISE, get it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:04:31 No.124247593 Report

Quoted By: >>124247624

>>124247561
Ok you can bury your head in the sand all you want. That's your choice. That doesn't mean this stuff doesn't happen is what I am saying. It's leftists that are making everyone and everything hyper race aware. Us calling them out on it is not the same as them doing it which is the dishonest tactic you are trying to push now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:05:00 No.124247599 Report

Quoted By: >>124247634 >>124247638 >>124247658

>>124247558
I'm one of those people that think the original work is the "real one", and if a band of crossdressers wanted to take "Gay He-Man" onto Broadway as a drag show, it means NOTHING to me, I remember all the olde show (it was pretty silly) and give no fucks.

I'd certainly feel stupid complaining that the Drag Show He-Man didn't stay canon to some other reinterpretation made of the original show.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:05:47 No.124247607 Report

Quoted By: >>124247633 >>124247646

name a single flaw, a single thing to warrant the race change.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:06:37 No.124247615 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247487
It's all they have to lean on, a thin cane easy to snap yet that's all they have to stand all wobbly with

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:06:39 No.124247616 Report

Quoted By: >>124247807

>>124247567
I mean, to be fair, Lord Greyskull is basicly Mini comic He-Man.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:07:08 No.124247624 Report

Quoted By: >>124247656 >>124247669

>>124247593
Anon, Life is not a Leftist Conspiracy to drain you of your "essence" and eradicate you from the gene pool. You volunteered for that last bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:07:51 No.124247633 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247607
not enough melanin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:07:53 No.124247634 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247599
Except Netflix adaption is a direct continuation, which means it IS canon to the "Real one"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:07:56 No.124247638 Report

Quoted By: >>124247649 >>124247675

>>124247599
>it means NOTHING to me
Thats you but not everyone is you. That's my point. No idea why you are trying to do this aloof uncaring persona when you clearly do care.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:07:57 No.124247639 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247501
Nope added in the early 2000's

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:08:26 No.124247646 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247607
This isn't even a "real" He-Man character. He's someone's fanfiction.
It's like complaining that Teela's giant owl-steed's plumage is the wrong color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:08:41 No.124247649 Report

Quoted By: >>124247676 >>124247678

>>124247638
>EVERYONE HATES THINGS I HATE
yawn dude take your culture war nonsense elsewhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:08:58 No.124247656 Report

Quoted By: >>124247700

>>124247624
>Anon, Life is not a Leftist Conspiracy to drain you of your "essence" and eradicate you from the gene pool.
Where did I say anything like this? Again I am telling you where this hyper racial sensitivity is coming from anon. You sure are doing a lot of damage control for someone that doesn't care

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:09:02 No.124247658 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247599
I'm sorry, why are you still talking about this? You claim you don't care about the change but here you are shilling for it? If autists don't like it that's their problem, isn't it?
>I'd certainly feel stupid complaining that the Drag Show He-Man didn't stay canon to some other reinterpretation made of the original show.
but this is a continuation of the canon of the original show, and a character form the 200X series HAS BEEN PORTED HERE and race bent. like you said, he didn't exist in the original, but now that he does, taking very blatant inspiration from 200X, he is made black.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:09:13 No.124247663 Report

Quoted By: >>124247701

>>124246554
No, see, in the 2002 show's timeline, back in King Grayskull's time there were two clans, the clan of the Serpent and the clan of the Ape, both being comprised of people descended from their prospective species, King Grayskull led the Ape tribe and defeated the warmongering Snake tribe and locked them away, allowing humanity to inherit Eternia, King Grayskull's bloodline would be separated into the line of the Sorceresses, who would look after the mystical powers of the Castle Grayskull and the line of Grayskull which would become the rulers of the united Eternia

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:09:35 No.124247669 Report

Quoted By: >>124247860

>>124247624
No, but blatant race changing for diversity quotas is a leftist action, and one guided entirely by a collectivist highly authortarian ideology that actively champions collectivist racial thinking, with it's own select in groups and out groups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:09:58 No.124247675 Report

Quoted By: >>124247726

>>124247638
Yes, it's called my opinion. You have yours, and I have mine. You're allowed to think mine is silly, I think yours certainly is.
You may be getting the hang of conversing on a board that isn't an Echo Chamber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:09:59 No.124247676 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247649
Why did you greentext something I didn't say in all caps? Why do you care so much to be dishonest here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:10:02 No.124247678 Report

Quoted By: >>124247739

>>124247649
why are leftists incapable of seeing things holistically? holy shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:10:19 No.124247682 Report

Quoted By: >>124247698 >>124247701 >>124247705 >>124247743 >>124247817

>>124247487
King Greyskull being black in ancient times of Eternia changes.... what exactly? Your feelings got hurt that a character with basically no personality or importance beyond being the origin for the power of Greyskull phrase was updated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:11:35 No.124247698 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247682
you ever get tired of punching men of straw?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:11:40 No.124247700 Report

Quoted By: >>124247732 >>124247733 >>124247766

>>124247656
>Again I am telling you where this hyper racial sensitivity is coming from anon.
People in America have been "hyper racial sensitive" since they flew the flag with 13 stars on it. You cannot possibly be this naive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:11:44 No.124247701 Report

Quoted By: >>124247731 >>124247736 >>124247737

>>124247682
His bloodline is supposed to literally include Adam

See >>124247663

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:12:16 No.124247705 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247682
>updated
What a peculiar word to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:13:55 No.124247726 Report

Quoted By: >>124247769

>>124247675
I never said you can't have your opinion professional victim. My point was you kept repeating geewhilickers how can anyone have an opinion I don't agree with and I explained to you that people don't always agree with you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:14:15 No.124247731 Report

Quoted By: >>124247768 >>124247775

>>124247701
>His bloodline is supposed to literally include Adam
See that's stupid, because if the powers of He-Man followed the royal bloodline, everyone would immediately know Prince Adam was He-Man. Or his Dad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:14:21 No.124247732 Report

Quoted By: >>124247783

>>124247700
were they this neurotic to the point of forced diversity quotas in fiction? I mean, there's a reason the people that are always behind this spout rhetoric to the effect of "it used to be too white but now it's not and that makes it better"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:14:29 No.124247733 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247700
And there is the reteat back into the Motte.

We're not arguing about America and it's historical position on race.

We're arguing the very modern idea that changing characters race to fit diversity quotas is being pushed even more than usual due to the trend of critical race theory being pushed by left wing circles.

That is what people have been arguing, so stick to the actual argument, why are you defending race bending?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:14:44 No.124247736 Report

Quoted By: >>124247786

>>124247701
>His bloodline is supposed to literally include Adam

So your argument is that you're a racist because you think having a black ancestor thousands of years ago soils the bloodline? M'kay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:14:45 No.124247737 Report

Quoted By: >>124247763 >>124247786

>>124247701
So? People can look "white" but in their family tree way back have had a person of a different "race" in their family tree.

King Grayskull being black changes nothing in the grand scheme of things

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:14:49 No.124247739 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247678
>urgh I hate thing everyone must hate thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:14:55 No.124247743 Report

Quoted By: >>124247781 >>124247882

>>124247682
If it changes nothing why change it in the first place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:15:56 No.124247763 Report

Quoted By: >>124247773 >>124247882

>>124247737
Then why make the change?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:16:05 No.124247766 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247700
>People in America have been "hyper racial sensitive" since they flew the flag with 13 stars on it
The internet has now given everyone with a mobile device to cry victim and voice their opinion about how evil white people are and push propaganda on a scale never seen before. You cannot possibly be this naive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:16:34 No.124247768 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247731
He-man isn't a title, it's a persona Adam takes when he uses the Powers of Greyskull his bloodline allows.

Nobody knows only the bloodline of King Greyskull can wield the powers of Greyskull.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:16:35 No.124247769 Report

Quoted By: >>124247791 >>124247798

>>124247726
>professional victim.
Don't project onto me; you're the one here complaining about these gross violations to "sensibility". You don't get to be "victimized" and claim its being done by professional victims, stupid.
Embrace your victimhood or stfu, either is fine.
I'm not bothered in the least by your bitching; I've lurked here a long time and expect it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:17:16 No.124247773 Report

Quoted By: >>124247849

>>124247763
Why complain about the change?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:17:17 No.124247775 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247731
and yet they don't. seems like an in-universe plot hole to me. Adam not looking like He-Man notwithstanding...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:18:03 No.124247781 Report

Quoted By: >>124247803

>>124247743
Because we think media shouldn't be 99.8% white and media has been terrible in representing other ethnicities, so what do you lose from adding people of color in?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:18:10 No.124247783 Report

Quoted By: >>124247796

>>124247732
>were they this neurotic to the point of forced diversity quotas in fiction?
They were rustled to the point that being in the wrong neighborhood after dark, or touching a girl of the "verboten" color was a death-sentence.
I'd say they were pretty fucking sensitive.
But not quite "whine on Twatter" sensitive I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:18:17 No.124247786 Report

Quoted By: >>124247882

>>124247736
>>124247737
The issue is Adam is supposed to be the spitting image of King Greyskull, seeing as he is the most alike descendent of the Ancient King.

You don't actually have point to defend making him Black do you? You're just making excuses how he could be black, ignoring everything that was the POINT of King Greyskull.

The point is Adam is basically King Greyskull reborn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:18:40 No.124247791 Report

Quoted By: >>124247825

>>124247769
It's not projecting. You went immediately to a victim position as if I was saying you can't have an opinion. I am not playing victim at all I am trying to have a discussion and you a person that doesn't care about this keeps caring and throwing a temper tantrum and using dishonest argument tactics left and right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:19:13 No.124247796 Report

Quoted By: >>124247851

>>124247783
we're talking about black people in cartoons, not Jim Crowe and the Klan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:19:23 No.124247798 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247769
See, you claim to have lurked 4chan a long time, yet you argue like a twitter leftist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:19:50 No.124247803 Report

Quoted By: >>124247822 >>124250303

>>124247781
Why do you keep changing your argument? You went from "who cares" to "we need race quotas"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:20:15 No.124247807 Report

Quoted By: >>124247821 >>124247838

>>124247616
If so then definitely not after Netlix got their pronoun screeching claws on it. I say he was too wild animalistic heavy metal brutal to be civilized enough to hold a title such as king. He was half Tarzan half Conan a violent raging berserker the only being strong enough to pick up use the sword and survive and thrive with it. Skeleton basically could only handle it because he was a powerful demonic sorcerer was my takeaway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:21:21 No.124247817 Report

Quoted By: >>124247915 >>124247926

>>124247682
Why do his offspring become white? Is he not the actual father?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:21:32 No.124247821 Report

Quoted By: >>124247970

>>124247807
Conan eventually became King of Aquilonia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:21:37 No.124247822 Report

Quoted By: >>124247846 >>124247849 >>124247862

>>124247803
Youre the one complaining about why there needs to be a black greyskull why also saying greyskull needs to be white

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:21:46 No.124247825 Report

Quoted By: >>124247862 >>124247997

>>124247791
>I am not playing victim at all
You are in this very thread because you are offended, disappointed and feel threatened by the Leftists. I don't really care about the He-Man reboot, no. I'm in this thread because it's becoming one of the most repetitive-style threads on 4chan, and I find your attitude curious.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:21:54 No.124247826 Report

Quoted By: >>124247882

Is the wiki wrong or did he literally only appear once?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:22:37 No.124247838 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247807
Considering Mini-Comics He-man is literally just a Conan expy, he could 100% hold the title of King.

Hell, He-man actually had friends he lead into battle, and had none of the loner-autism Conan has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:23:11 No.124247846 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247822
I said why does he need to be changed if its not a big deal since your argument was its not a big deal. Then you changed it to diversity quotas which contradicts what you said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:23:31 No.124247849 Report

Quoted By: >>124247859 >>124247893

>>124247773
>>124247822
why are leftists like this?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:23:39 No.124247851 Report

Quoted By: >>124247868 >>124247892

>>124247796
>we're talking about black people in cartoons, not Jim Crowe and the Klan
You're talking about the over-sensitivity of blacks to representation, and how it's this New Leftist Trend, and I'm saying that Americans have been hyper-sensitive about race for centuries. Far more in yesteryear than today. Way, way more.

It's not even arguable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:24:17 No.124247858 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246306
ALL HAIL KING BOOKER!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:24:17 No.124247859 Report

Quoted By: >>124247861

>>124247849
Why are right wing pol culture warriors so obsessed with fictional characters races?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:24:36 No.124247860 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247669
Dangerously on target anon based summarization

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:24:40 No.124247861 Report

Quoted By: >>124247894

>>124247859
Why are leftists?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:24:40 No.124247862 Report

Quoted By: >>124247873 >>124247899

>>124247822
No we're not, we're arguing why changing a character's race to fill quotas is bad writing, and you're here defending it while also trying to sound like you're not investing in the argument.

>>124247825
Drop the act, you're not here just to observe, you're here to defend the change, but lack the actual intellect to present a defence, so instead you ridicule the argument and pretend you're not engaging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:25:16 No.124247868 Report

Quoted By: >>124247918

>>124247851
>Far more in yesteryear than today. Way, way more.
for the inclusion of black people in cartoons? or racebending a character into the polar opposite ethnicity? lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:25:20 No.124247873 Report

Quoted By: >>124247888 >>124247907

>>124247862
>bad writing
I’m sure the toy company who makes he man will take that into account

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:26:10 No.124247882 Report

Quoted By: >>124247912 >>124247917 >>124247989

>>124247743
>>124247763
For the same reason reboots of all kinds of franchises change designs, have new art styles, etc

for something new/different

>>124247786
>The issue is Adam is supposed to be the spitting image of King Greyskull
Where has this ever been said?

>, ignoring everything that was the POINT of King Greyskull.
The "point" of King Grayskull was that he was based on a prototype of He-Man and is the origin of the He-Man powers for the 2002 show which are imbued in the Sword of Power

>>124247826
He's also appeared in 3 comics and had like one or two action figures, but yeah that episode is his original and biggest appearance where he battles Hordak

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:26:30 No.124247888 Report

Quoted By: >>124247909

>>124247873
what about the writers for the written show?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:26:53 No.124247892 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247851
No, we're talking about a specific action, you're trying to divert it to a generalist talking point about race in America.

It's not arguable because you're trying to move the argument away from what people are actually talking about, because you can't engage with what people are saying without looking like a retard.

So stop retreating into your Motte and stand your ground, Why are you defending race bending?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:27:05 No.124247893 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247849
Everything with leftists is to argue using deflections to bring the argument to a standstill. If someone accuses the left of doing something wrong and they can falsely say it's an issue with the other side too or not unique to them, then they never have to acknowledge it's a problem with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:27:05 No.124247894 Report

Quoted By: >>124247904 >>124247932 >>124247957

>>124247861
You do realize you are going to lose your culture war right? I mean you don’t honestly think because you read some day of the rope posts on pol and your teenage brain thought Awesome that’s gonna make a difference irl? I mean look at you you’re getting all bent out of a shape over a decisions that’s already been made about a fictional cartoon character

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:27:22 No.124247899 Report

Quoted By: >>124247920 >>124247934

>>124247862
I'm engaging YOU, I didn't even know King He-Man existed until this thread, let alone that he was now black.
You and yours see fit to populate the boards with these threads like an industry; and I'm engaging YOU to see what's up with that hamster wheel turning in your head.
You Anon. I don't give a single fuck about He-Man's fanfiction ancestor/inspiration.

So go ahead, pour out your grief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:28:02 No.124247904 Report

Quoted By: >>124247919

>>124247894
pills meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:28:16 No.124247907 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247873
Another completely pointless deflection. Just because it's He-man doesn't mean the writing needs to be college marxist rubbish.

Bionicle was a literal toyline and the writing was engaging as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:28:18 No.124247909 Report

Quoted By: >>124248055

>>124247888
I’m sure the toy company who pays those people to write will take that into account

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:28:21 No.124247912 Report

Quoted By: >>124248070

>>124247882
This isn't an art design change like in your image it's a racial change. What does being black do to make the character different?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:28:42 No.124247915 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247817
Well, you know how all of humanity descended from Apes yeah?
And how majority of the apes who started were somewhere in North Africa right?
And then the Apes moved around the planet and started adapting to their new colder environments by gainer lighter skin and developing tools right?
Imagine if, say, a mighty king, leader of the ape clan, moves his kingdom northward from warm tropical lands, to cold forest-lands
And then he started fucking the people that had grown adapted to the cold environment by developing the lighter skin to allow more vitamin D
And then his descendants kept fucking the white people until eventually their descendants had as much a penchant for white skin as say, inheriting the throne that their ancestor carved out for them
That's kind of what happened here, but they made the kingdom after they moved instead of taking it with them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:28:56 No.124247917 Report

Quoted By: >>124248070

>>124247882
>For the same reason reboots of all kinds of franchises change designs, have new art styles, etc
i notice you didn't mention race, which is what this debacle is about. this also isn't a reboot, but it's including a character from a reboot, wantonly race bent. it's a conscious decision to change a character's appearance, no matter how menial or how drastic. do you deny this? do you deny that they felt the NEED to change his already established design?
>The "point" of King Grayskull was that he was based on a prototype of He-Man a
funny how he also looked exactly like He-Man.. the... spitting image, you could say...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:29:13 No.124247918 Report

Quoted By: >>124247936 >>124247949 >>124247976

>>124247868
>for the inclusion of black people in cartoons? or racebending a character into the polar opposite ethnicity? lol
It used to be a radical thing to have a black person ON the television at all, then you have stuff like Shatner actually KISSING one, OMFG.
Are you 10?
Because you talk like you lack a single shred of historical context.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:29:19 No.124247919 Report

Quoted By: >>124247928

>>124247904
Day of the rope begins with winning some arbitrary argument about some fictional cartoon characters race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:29:23 No.124247920 Report

Quoted By: >>124247975

>>124247899
First post in this thread:
When you say, "you people" and "yours" you are collectively placing anyone with any criticism for this cartoon within the same political compass position.

I think maybe you shouldn't do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:30:22 No.124247926 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247817
When a man and woman of different ethnicities really love one another and copulate, and this happens multiple times through the course of numerous generations, your skin tone can become darker or lighter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:30:24 No.124247928 Report

Quoted By: >>124247937

>>124247919
yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:30:34 No.124247932 Report

Quoted By: >>124247954

>>124247894
>You do realize you are going to lose your culture war right?
You think the west can function with white people being marginalized. PC Woke culture is a symptom of excess and we will one day not have that anymore and this all goes away over night.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:30:42 No.124247934 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247899
You're not engaging anyone, you entered the thread, made pathetic arguments like "writing bad, show is for toys" and when people pressed you on this, you retreated to trying an aloof persona and then talking about racism in the general history of America.

You've not engage a single point I have made and instead spent the entire thread trying to make yourself seem "Better" than us by not actually engaging in the discussion proper.

If you don't care about the discussion, don't engage in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:30:49 No.124247936 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247918
again, we're talking about black people in cartoons, not 1960's racism and racial awareness. explain to me how quotas that force black people into fiction is a thing of the past

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:31:00 No.124247937 Report

Quoted By: >>124247960

>>124247928
Like I said teenagers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:31:54 No.124247949 Report

Quoted By: >>124247994

>>124247918
That was 50 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:32:15 No.124247954 Report

Quoted By: >>124247972 >>124249803

>>124247932
Yes you think whites were the only people to build society whether primitive or otherwise? You came from Africa dont forget or genocide another tens of millions of Europeans over which group is whiter up to you

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:32:21 No.124247955 Report

Quoted By: >>124247983

>>124246689

>why not give little black girls a character that looks like them

Why are "minorities" so obsessed with seeing characters of their own race? Can they not relate to characters that dont look like them?

Im white as fuck and I can relate to shit like Kamalas Ms.marvel because teenage shenanigans are shit everyone goes through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:32:25 No.124247957 Report

Quoted By: >>124247977 >>124247992

>>124247894
The fact that Critical Race Theory is now finally recieving the backlash it deserves proves you wrong.

The mask has slipped, the marxists pretending to be civil rights activists have shown their true colours, and nobody with even two brain cells to rub together would agree with their racial-socialism.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:32:38 No.124247959 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246574
>>124246306

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:32:41 No.124247960 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247937
no

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:33:40 No.124247970 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247821
Yes but over a long period of time Conan became more civilized and less berserk. Did the Prince Adam angle even exist early on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:33:42 No.124247972 Report

Quoted By: >>124248021

>>124247954
>Yes you think whites were the only people to build society whether primitive or otherwise?
Successful ones that attracted millions from around the world to come in yes? There is a reason why people risk their life to come to the US and not Somalia. It's basic Darwinism. Whites are the most taxpayers. One day that won't be the case. Then what?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:33:46 No.124247975 Report

Quoted By: >>124247991 >>124247996 >>124248007 >>124251008

>>124247920
I'm the first post in this thread actually; and I was directly asking the OP how he felt genocided by this clearly OC character now being a negro.

And I still haven't gotten a satisfactory answer.
It's like a cartoon show introduced "Obi Madeupguy, the First Jedi" and some other idiot comes in years later and changes his race. It's a stupid thing to get bent about. Or even care about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:33:49 No.124247976 Report

Quoted By: >>124248025

>>124247918
Nobody is arguing against that, We're arguing how turning King Greyskull black is arbitrary and nothing but diversity quota mentality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:33:51 No.124247977 Report

Quoted By: >>124247996 >>124248059

>>124247957
You don't even understand what CRT is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:34:11 No.124247983 Report

Quoted By: >>124248008 >>124248038

>>124247955
>Why are "minorities" so obsessed with seeing characters of their own race?
How white are you to make this post. You’ve never had to have to want someone who looks like you be represented as heroic or noble or was just put in your face the only time you painted my peoples portraits is as those racial characters of ugly hideous creatures
>and yes I know you’re not white(you’re hispanic)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:34:39 No.124247989 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247882
He is a bigger side character than lt.andra. honestly sad that a nobody is getting a fast thread. Reactionary are probably going to make another 100k advertisements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:34:59 No.124247991 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247975
you are the only person in this entire thread who brought up white genocide because you can't divorce the matter of this thread with the alt right boogeyman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:35:15 No.124247992 Report

Quoted By: >>124248016 >>124249785

>>124247957
Backlash from whom? That’s right your average Fox News viewer. Real ground shattering. What’s next breaking news Idaho bans black history courses
>inb4 you post a token Candace Owens saying crt is stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:35:27 No.124247994 Report

Quoted By: >>124248016

>>124247949
YES. Again, people were hyper sensitive to race in my father's time, and my grandfather's time.
I can scarcely imagine how it must have been before that, we fought a massive war about it, you might have heard about it in school.
Jesus Christ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:35:31 No.124247996 Report

Quoted By: >>124248006

>>124247977
I knew this would slip; For an "Oldfag who lurked 4chan" you seem pretty prone to defending twitter theories quite handily.

>>124247975
So you made a dishonest statement, tried to dumb down the argument and you're now desperately trying to disengage acting like you've somehow won the argument by not engaging with it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:35:43 No.124247997 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247825
Hardly just noticing and pointing out their actions, which they despise almost as much as the properties they subvert.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:36:13 No.124248005 Report

Quoted By: >>124248088

Okay, but get this. What if they made Skeletor black?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:36:17 No.124248006 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247996
Thanks for proving me right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:36:21 No.124248007 Report

Quoted By: >>124248053

>>124247975
>I'm the first post in this thread actually
Sorry, I wasn't clear:
I meant, "this is my first post in this thread."
>I was directly asking the OP how he felt genocided by this clearly OC character now being a negro.
I don't recall the OP saying it was good or bad. Let alone claiming it was white genocide. It seems to me you put those words in his mouth, figuratively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:36:25 No.124248008 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247983
>You’ve never had to have to want someone who looks like you be represented as heroic or noble or was just put in your face the only time you painted my peoples portraits is as those racial characters of ugly hideous creatures
Why can't non whites admire these people without them sharing the same skin pigmentation as them? I grew up with my dad constantly buying Chinese movies and I did not have to be Asian to see Jackie Chan as a role model.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:36:27 No.124248010 Report

Quoted By:

King Grayskull is black
>nards, I wish he looked like his original design
>HAHAHA SO SILLY, LOOK HE CARES ABOUT CHARACTER DESIGN SO SILLY
??????

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:37:08 No.124248016 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247992
Around 40 states and countries like the UK banning CRT being taught in schools, forcing it to stay within the realm of legal theory where it constantly gets ravaged by actual civil rights laws.

>>124247994
Nobody is arguing that, we're arguing against changing a character to fit diversity quotas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:37:37 No.124248021 Report

Quoted By: >>124248040

>>124247972
Well maybe every Pablo and josefina wouldn’t come to your country if you didn’t subterfuge theirs with your cocain intelligence agencies and the only reason immigrants came from Europe is because Europe was killing itself with world wars(you know giant drivebys)
And if you return to any other ethnic group like the Chinese or the Indians that’s because America became the default hegemon after Europe finished sudoking itself after a Austrian painter was to mediocre to get into art school and thought genociding millions of innocents was the correct cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:37:50 No.124248025 Report

Quoted By: >>124248030 >>124248047

>>124247976
>turning King Greyskull black is arbitrary and nothing but diversity quota mentality.
Ok? So?
What a stunning victory for diversity, they "won" a character maybe 1 person in 100,000 has even heard of, and maybe 1 in 100 of those give a fuck about.
I mean, compared to Hamilton this isn't even anything at all???
It's a race-change to a recently made-up addition to a mythos, get back to me when He-Man is black, that'd at least BE SOMETHING.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:38:42 No.124248030 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248025
what are you talking about schizo? if they don't like the change and explain why, that's that. you're putting words in people's mouths for reasons i can only attribute to shilling

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:39:18 No.124248038 Report

Quoted By: >>124248050 >>124248054 >>124248162

>>124247983
Why are you assuming everyone is so racist that they need role models to look exactly like them.

One of my closest friends is a Ugandian Immigrant and his biggest idols and inspirations was David Bowie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:39:59 No.124248040 Report

Quoted By: >>124248065 >>124248119

>>124248021
I finally get it. You are not American. You are some Euro faggot that lives in a 99.9% white country or a non white. That's why this perspective is so hard for you to grasp. You don't have to deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:40:42 No.124248047 Report

Quoted By: >>124248073

>>124248025
If you don't care about the discussion, why engage in it. Moreover, why are you engaging in the argument specifically to try and insult one side of the argument, while claiming not to be on the other side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:41:10 No.124248050 Report

Quoted By: >>124248068

>>124248038
I am white and was obsessed with Blade as a kid because I loved Castlevania. Even went as him as Halloween. According to the left this is not possible.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:41:22 No.124248053 Report

Quoted By: >>124248090

>>124248007
>I don't recall the OP saying it was good or bad.
Sure, lets fall back and act disingenuous, like these threads aren't a daily dose.
Or let's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:41:23 No.124248054 Report

Quoted By: >>124248077 >>124248086

>>124248038
>see this black is cool not having representation
Again spoken like someone who’s never had a good self image of people who looked like him growing up 99% of all characters from stories are white and the heroes are usually male so white males it’s nice to see someone who looks like you that’s isn’t something pol tier racial caricature with giant teeth eating a watermelon speaking broken English

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:41:26 No.124248055 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247909
They will if the toy sales suddenly turn off like a faucet. The slightest dip could end the property thats how thin their margin is. there's a reason she-ra was one and done and now dead where it stands. There will be no new episodes again like they originally planned

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:41:54 No.124248059 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247977
Oh I understand CRT completely, It's using Marxist theory framework adopted from Critical Theory but instead of talking down class lines, it seperates based on race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:42:25 No.124248065 Report

Quoted By: >>124248083

>>124248040
Born in the dying rust belt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:42:41 No.124248068 Report

Quoted By: >>124248102

>>124248050
Next time you should go as the Strawman from Wizard of Oz.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:42:45 No.124248070 Report

Quoted By: >>124248114 >>124248115 >>124248152 >>124248153

>>124247912
>This isn't an art design change like in your image it's a racial change.
I didn't say changes have only ever been art style specific the image was just an example of a design change.

>What does being black do to make the character different?
It changes his design. Instead of a buff white dude with a nordic hairstyle, he's a buff black dude with dreads. It's as simple as that. Something new. Same reason comic book characters occasionally have gotten racebent, like Nick Fury back in the Ultimate Marvel comics.

>>124247917
>i notice you didn't mention race, which is what this debacle is about.
Race is just under the umbrella of design changes, because race is a dumb concept. We're all people.

> this also isn't a reboot, but it's including a character from a reboot,
MOTU: Revelation is a basically a soft reboot of the original show and King Grayskull wasn't even a thing until the 2002 show so it is a reboot for his character

> do you deny that they felt the NEED to change his already established design?
They wanted to have a few more black characters in their show and knew new ones had a chance of being rejected so they opted to(besides digging up other obscure characters) give King Grayskull a new character design for this universe. That design happens to make him a buff black dude with dreads.

>funny how he also looked exactly like He-Man.. the... spitting image, you could say...
Lmao he didn't look "exactly like" He-Man. He looks similar and is based on a prototype design for He-Man but he's not just literally the exact same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:43:12 No.124248073 Report

Quoted By: >>124248082 >>124248104

>>124248047
This is what the modern leftist does. Since Obama's 1st term when it was obvious he was George Bush DLC they just claim not to be leftists while they do nothing but shit on the right and push left wing talking points. If they claim to not stand for a side then they don't have to defend anything and can just attack. We saw the apex of this at the last election where Biden didn't even need to run on anything and it's only going to get worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:43:36 No.124248077 Report

Quoted By: >>124248082

>>124248054
What the fuck is this schitzo shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:44:23 No.124248082 Report

Quoted By: >>124248096 >>124248123

>>124248077
You mean this?
>>124248073
Off his meds, I'd say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:44:26 No.124248083 Report

Quoted By: >>124248327

>>124248065
>rust belt
where? Are you white?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:44:34 No.124248086 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248054
I grew up in the 90s in the North of the UK, I had exactly one person who I could class as showing a "good self image" for me and that was Sean bean playing Sharpe.

But I see I managed to trick you into defending their racist arguments, because the idea you MUST have a role model who looks exactly like you is racist as it implies empathy cannot cross racial lines.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:44:40 No.124248088 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248005
Skeletor is prone to violent outbursts and stealing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:44:53 No.124248090 Report

Quoted By: >>124248156

>>124248053
>Sure, lets fall back and act disingenuous
I wasn't. I'm engaging you as earnestly as I possibly can. I did not see the OP claim they were being genocided or state any kind of opinion about it.
Please do not make such assumptions about what I'm telling you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:45:15 No.124248096 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248082
>You mean this?
No, I replied to the correct post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:45:37 No.124248102 Report

Quoted By: >>124248136 >>124248270

>>124248068
No strawman. According to leftists its impossible for non whites to look up to white figures because their skin pigmentation doesn't match. That sounds so ridiculous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:45:58 No.124248104 Report

Quoted By: >>124248123

>>124248073

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:46:56 No.124248114 Report

Quoted By: >>124248184

>>124248070
Why not make him a buff white dude with dreads? Or better yet, instead of caring so much about his race why not actually change up his story to be different and interesting? Your superficial change does nothing to make the character more interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:47:05 No.124248115 Report

Quoted By: >>124248436

>>124248070
>Race is just under the umbrella of design changes,
It takes up a big, fat chunk of the umbrella, my man. somehow I doubt the discontent ITT would be as bad if the race change had not been as drastic. white and black... literally night and day, lmao. he doesn't even look like the same character anymore.
>MOTU: Revelation is a basically a soft reboot
it's a continuation, not a full on reboot
>King Grayskull wasn't even a thing until the 2002 show so it is a reboot for his character
yes, it is. and people are saying it's not a good thing, and you're antagonizing them for having this opinion, assuming they're all IdPol obsessed lunatics (like you)
>They wanted to have a few more black characters in their show and knew new ones had a chance of being rejected
so don't racebend existing characters... that'll only make the rejection worse
>That design happens to make him a buff black dude with dreads.
so completely different from his intended design. got it.
>Lmao he didn't look "exactly like" He-Man
yes he did... look closely. the differences are pretty minuscule.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:47:48 No.124248119 Report

Quoted By: >>124248150

>>124248040
The only explanation for the idealistic naivety and bad faith arguments straight from their marxist university

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:48:11 No.124248123 Report

Quoted By: >>124248151

>>124248082
>>124248104
Nice non response

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:48:53 No.124248136 Report

Quoted By: >>124248163 >>124248165 >>124248167

>>124248102
>According to leftists
Which particular leftists are we talking about? The ones that live in your head? Below your door-mat?
What is with all this vague anecdotal bullshittery? You wade into this conversation with EVIL FORCES ABROAD ARE BEING EVIL.
Grow up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:49:57 No.124248150 Report

Quoted By: >>124248182

>>124248119
It's a combination of that indoctrination and living in a 99.9% white area and lecturing everyone else about being racist. I invite anyone who disagrees with me to move to Brownsville Brooklyn and tell me if their views change at all. You won't find any white liberals there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:50:01 No.124248151 Report

Quoted By: >>124248175

>>124248123
I mean, am I supposed to rave back at him about Reagan or W Bush or something?
I don't jabber with obviously mentally impaired folks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:50:04 No.124248152 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248070
>They wanted to have a few more black characters in their show and knew new ones had a chance of being rejected so they opted to(besides digging up other obscure characters) give King Grayskull a new character design for this universe. That design happens to make him a buff black dude with dreads.

Yes, and people here are disagreeing with this line of thought, rightfully declaring it nothing but political pandering and creative cowardice. Nobody here is claiming having a black He-man character is bad, they're pointing out turning an existing character black is bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:50:16 No.124248153 Report

Quoted By: >>124248288 >>124248547

>>124248070
>Nick Fury back in the Ultimate Marvel comics.
1610 was not a continuation of 616, Nick Fury stayed white in 616. The argument you want to make is that MCU Nick Fury isn't white because he is the 1610 version, and that's fine.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:50:30 No.124248156 Report

Quoted By: >>124248206 >>124248229

>>124248090
OP know what he is doing by pretend a side character race who literally only appeared once in show is newsworthy. Honestly it the eqavilent of Joclad getting a soon to be bump limit thread because of race. You do this constantly and I won't be surprised if a no named background character get a thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:51:03 No.124248162 Report

Quoted By: >>124248194 >>124248197 >>124248397

>>124248038
Representation doesn't just mean role models. If representation doesn't matter ay all, then let's make every character be black for couple of decades. Because why not, they don't need to be white and you as a white guy don't need to see any white people in media since after all, why can't you just identify with black characters. And then in 2040 we'll make everyone be Asian. And then Native American. And so on. And we don't need to talk about this ever again because we fixed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:51:05 No.124248163 Report

Quoted By: >>124248200

>>124248136
Oh look, another deflection of the politcs within this discussion, you seem to be doing this often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:51:18 No.124248165 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248136
Regular race baiting leftists like the ones in this thread making that argument. They think non whites are so stupid that they can't look up to a white figure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:51:33 No.124248167 Report

Quoted By: >>124248216

>>124248136
you are doing the selfsame thing he accuses leftists of doing, leftist.
>Which particular leftists are we talking about?
look in the mirror

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:52:18 No.124248175 Report

Quoted By: >>124248896

>>124248151
You haven't made a certain argument about how what I said was wrong just personal insults.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:53:00 No.124248182 Report

Quoted By: >>124248202 >>124248217 >>124248249 >>124248412

>>124248150
I'm a white liberal Democrat and lived 3 minutes from East St. Louis for decades.
You don't know a damn thing, kid.
Stick to your imaginary internet scenarios.
You're a chud because you're a cringing, sexually unsatisfied wretch with no hope; it wasn't Teh Blacks or Teh Libs that turned you into a disgrace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:53:03 No.124248184 Report

Quoted By: >>124248241 >>124248243

>>124248114
>Why not make him a buff white dude with dreads?
Because that's not what the people designing him wanted to do? Also because there are some retards that think black people invented dreads and right now is not a good time to stir up retarded controversy like that

> Or better yet, instead of caring so much about his race why not actually change up his story to be different and interesting?
You've seen literally one panel leaked from a comic based on the show, how do you know they haven't altered King Grayskull's backstory at all for MOTU: Revelation?

>Your superficial change does nothing to make the character more interesting.
A design change can make characters more interesting. I'm not saying his original design isn't interesting, mind you. Just that a new design can breathe life into a character. As I said before, I fully support doing a variety of Grayskulls. Give me Khan Grayskull. Give me Pharoah Grayskull. Give me Tlatoani Grayskull.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:53:10 No.124248186 Report

Quoted By: >>124248836

Im black, and Im fucking tired of seeing all black characters either having afros, dreadlocks, or a shaved head/buzzcut.

Theres so much more out there. I dont care if some nigga has to straighten their hair to do it. You can have any style you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:53:46 No.124248194 Report

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>>124248162
So make new He-Man characters that are black no one is stopping them. Go make new characters you want black and lets see what happens. Go for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:53:55 No.124248197 Report

Quoted By: >>124248377 >>124248475

>>124248162
Because picking race solely to fix some percieved political problem is retarded, and doing more of it like you suggest solves nothing.

You've not actually answered the question; Why DOES representation matter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:54:01 No.124248200 Report

Quoted By: >>124248223

>>124248163
We have a board for politics, I am 100% certain you are very familiar with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:54:07 No.124248202 Report

Quoted By: >>124248247

>>124248182
Cool larp

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:54:27 No.124248206 Report

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>>124248156
>no named background character get a thread.
It happened already

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:55:02 No.124248216 Report

Quoted By: >>124248249 >>124248267

>>124248167
I'm not talking about random Alt-Rightoids at ALL, I am talking about YOU specifically.
You are countering with "There are Leftists out there, doing nefarious shit.."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:55:02 No.124248217 Report

Quoted By: >>124248247

>>124248182
>East St. Louis
Now we are at the point of the debate where liberals lie because it's for "the greater cause" to "own the cons"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:55:04 No.124248219 Report

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>>124246740
Tons of girls watched these cartoon I read years ago up to 40% of viewers were girls. That is why there was Lady Jaye and Zarana, and the main reason Mattel created She-Ra in the first place. I remember the Netflix MOTU doc specifically points this out

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:55:23 No.124248223 Report

Quoted By: >>124248259

>>124248200
We also have a board for comics and cartoons, something we were discussing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:56:04 No.124248229 Report

Quoted By: >>124248285

>>124248156
>OP know what he is doing by pretend a side character race who literally only appeared once in show is newsworthy.
Trolling or flame baiting, I assumed. It's also possible they wanted to discuss it, but I personally think that it's more likely they're getting a chuckle out of watching people argue.
>You do this constantly
What are you accusing me of doing, exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:56:57 No.124248241 Report

Quoted By: >>124248712

>>124248184
>Because that's not what the people designing him wanted to do?
what did they want to do? they didn't just modify his design, they changed it completely. this isn't the first time Netflix did something like this.
>A design change can make characters more interesting.
did this? please answer this.
>I fully support doing a variety of Grayskulls.
nobody ITT seems to opposite it, but they turned the one and only Grayskull into someone you wouldn't expect Adam to be the offspring of. even taking into account changing demographics you can't deny that it's a bit silly, since Grayskull should actually look like He-Man. personally, I think it would make him MORE interesting if he DID look like He-Man. they didn't do this to make him "more Interesting" and I think you know that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:57:23 No.124248243 Report

Quoted By: >>124248712

>>124248184
>Because that's not what the people designing him wanted to do?
Again you are changing the argument. You were talking strictly about updating the character's look. Now you abandoned that argument. You keep doing this.

>You've seen literally one panel leaked from a comic based on the show, how do you know they haven't altered King Grayskull's backstory at all for MOTU: Revelation?
Again my dishonest friend, I am arguing your logic about changing up a character which was just superficial means.

>A design change can make characters more interesting
How does making him black do that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:57:25 No.124248245 Report

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Why do are black people so overrepresented in rape statistics? I don't understand.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:57:34 No.124248247 Report

Quoted By: >>124248260

>>124248202
>>124248217
I lived in an apartment up Signal Hill, in Belleville IL, literall up the hill from E. St Louis.]
When they built the metrolink station, I used to park my car in E. St. Louis and metrolink to the other side of St. Louis to work.
Just because you are all pathological liars and exaggerators doesn't mean the whole internet is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:57:43 No.124248249 Report

Quoted By: >>124248291

>>124248182
>>124248216
>Arguing this entire thread you don't have any political side and you're just here to observe idiots
>Finally crack and start insulting people on your political opposite despite not knowing the political position of those you're arguing with.

You are the stereotypical twitter midwit and this thread has been a texbook example of why you're a midwit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:58:36 No.124248259 Report

Quoted By: >>124248271 >>124248297

>>124248223
>We also have a board for comics and cartoons, something we were discussing.
Cool, and the cartoon we are discussing does not feature Obama or Dubya. Fuck off back to >>>/pol/ with that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:58:43 No.124248260 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248247
Show proof. You lived there for "decades" you can come up with something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:59:26 No.124248267 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248216
>I'm not talking about random Alt-Rightoids at ALL, I am talking about YOU specifically.
And I'm talking about YOU specifically.
>"There are Leftists out there, doing nefarious shit.."
this is known. Who pushes for these quotas? rightoids? chuds? or people closer to the left?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:59:37 No.124248270 Report

Quoted By: >>124248289 >>124248290

>>124248102
Looking up to someone=/= representation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 05:59:37 No.124248271 Report

Quoted By: >>124248314 >>124248379

>>124248259
You're the one who brought them up though. You're the one that tried to deflect the argument away from talking about the change of the character as subject into the general talking of race in America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:00:08 No.124248280 Report

Quoted By: >>124248577

So they needed to make characters that were too similar to each other, different? So they made the less well known characters black? What's the problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:00:26 No.124248285 Report

Quoted By: >>124248317 >>124248407

>>124248229
Getting upset by minor character race swap. Wonder women and Hippolyta are some how equal in relevance. Most of the characters never had a single thread until the race swap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:00:39 No.124248288 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248153
>Nick Fury stayed white in 616

He was also sidelined completely by his son, black Nick Fury

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:00:42 No.124248289 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248270
Why is representation something to value then if it does absolutely nothing?

How does representation work when nobody is human at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:00:43 No.124248290 Report

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>>124248270
Why does representation matter?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:00:44 No.124248291 Report

Quoted By: >>124248321 >>124248329

>>124248249
>despite not knowing the political position
It's super-hard to guess the political bent of people who spew DEM LIBRULS every 10th word.
If I were a midwit, I'd still be twice as smart as you, instead of 5x as smart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:00:59 No.124248297 Report

Quoted By: >>124248334

>>124248259
Who brought up sociopolitical context of race 50 years ago, as opposed to the pertinence of direct quotas of today?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:01:18 No.124248306 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247362
HERETIC

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:01:57 No.124248314 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248271
>You're the one who brought them up though.
I never brought up one single political figure, and I challenge you to cite my doing so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:02:11 No.124248317 Report

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>>124248285
>Getting upset by minor character race swap
I haven't said a thing about my opinions on the subject once. You are inferring my opinion on the subject. Erroneously, might I add. I do not care. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:02:18 No.124248321 Report

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>>124248291
do conservatives and rightoids push for these changes and quotas? everyone's waiting for your response here. we're telling you why this is the way that it is... because of leftist quotas

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:02:44 No.124248327 Report

Quoted By: >>124248342

>>124248083
Illinois
No I’m not white
I’m half black half white

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:02:50 No.124248329 Report

Quoted By: >>124248350

>>124248291
The very first response to this thread was a strawman about genocide you realize that right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:03:00 No.124248334 Report

Quoted By: >>124248353

>>124248297
>Who brought up sociopolitical context of race 50 years ago
Yes, which is contextual to the discussion, Obama's Sekrut Agenda is just schizo /pol/ rambling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:03:55 No.124248342 Report

Quoted By: >>124248362

>>124248327
>I’m half black half white
Ok just as I thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:04:12 No.124248349 Report

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>>124246306
>not ...Da Power!

They had one job

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:04:19 No.124248350 Report

Quoted By: >>124248369 >>124248371

>>124248329
The very first (OP) post was an invitation to the 3000th "Race Swap Outrage" thread, yoiu realize that right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:04:37 No.124248353 Report

Quoted By: >>124248387

>>124248334
no, it was quite irrelevant to the discussion because a different phenomenon altogether was being discussed.
>Obama's Sekrut Agenda is just schizo /pol/ rambling.
did they start talking about that nigger before or after your tirade about how things were back in the rayciss old days?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:04:42 No.124248354 Report

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>>124246306
Pushing blacks as barbarian is now progressive, neat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:05:10 No.124248362 Report

Quoted By: >>124248381

>>124248342
Good glad your suspicions could be confirmed. There’s nothing wrong with more poc characters and female leads

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:05:25 No.124248369 Report

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>>124248350
The person who made the reply already said they were being serious. It wasn't a /pol/ false flag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:05:42 No.124248371 Report

Quoted By: >>124248401

>>124248350
and? the first person to respond was buttmad about anons not liking the design change

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:06:20 No.124248377 Report

Quoted By: >>124248443 >>124248465 >>124248474

>>124248197
>Why DOES representation matter?

Because if you are a citizen you deserve to be represented in media and fiction. Not doing so hammers down the notion that you don't belong and you aren't good enough to be anything. That's why it matters to show all kinds of people doing different kind of roles because it softly encourages people to believe they can do it too. If you are white and media only depicted you as being a criminal or a janitor, would you be happy with that? That your people couldn't do any better? Same logic applies to everyone else, except for the fact that for decades and centuries women and people of color were actively depicted as being less than white men, and those influences and depictions have lingered to this day to some degree. That is why in an equal society it is important to make representation be actually equal rather than pretending it already is because we have couple of old token roles to point to and think that automatically fixed everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:06:33 No.124248379 Report

Quoted By: >>124248422

>>124248271
>general talking of race in America
The character you are discussing death will not generate a reaction from 99% of he-man fans. These threads are always an excuse to talk about race. If it was a main character I can understand your grievances but this thread is about a literal nobody.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:06:35 No.124248381 Report

Quoted By: >>124248393

>>124248362
I agree. Just make new ones then. Don't race swap existing ones.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:06:57 No.124248387 Report

Quoted By: >>124248448

>>124248353
Are you challenging my assertion? That racial tension was stronger 60, 120, 240 years ago?
Because It was asserted that today is THE WORST race anguish has ever been in America, BECuZ LEFTISTS, and I laughed at him then, and I laugh at you now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:07:11 No.124248393 Report

Quoted By: >>124248469 >>124249869

>>124248381
Don’t need to when there are perfectly good characters that can be made black

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:07:32 No.124248397 Report

Quoted By: >>124248433

>>124248162
Is this not what is currently happening to a large degree? Looking forward to seeing black Anne Frank and asian MLK major motion pictures soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:08:05 No.124248401 Report

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>>124248371
That was me, and what about that first post suggested "anger" over "mockery".
Maybe you are just lousy at reading the room. Get out more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:08:20 No.124248407 Report

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>>124248285
Wonder women is Hispanic and nobody cares though

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:09:09 No.124248412 Report

Quoted By: >>124248434 >>124248445

>>124248182
Thank you for doubling my fuel costs anon really went above and beyond

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:10:02 No.124248422 Report

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>>124248379
he is important to the context of the story, just not to the show. I still don't see the need to racebend him. let me shed some light on this corner you've backed yourself into.
>they racebent other characters because they were worried their OCs would flop
>b-but design changes happen to make a character more interesting!
these two are contradictory statements. furthermore, the current state of diversity quotas was being discussed, and you felt the need to say "well race has always been polemic" and went on a rant about sociopolitical climates (as they pertain to race) 50 years ago to prove a point that didn't need proving, for an argument that no one was having.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:10:30 No.124248433 Report

Quoted By: >>124248660

>>124248397
Oh wow how original, you made a white MLK joke. Your mother must be so proud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:10:40 No.124248434 Report

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>>124248412
Why is that schizophrenic on /bant/ posting this faggots picture? I assume he’s one of your shitty pol refugees

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:10:49 No.124248436 Report

Quoted By: >>124248564

>>124248115
>It takes up a big, fat chunk of the umbrella, my man
Only if you make it. A race change(which in most cases is dumb I will agree there) can be as simple as that. If your goal with a race change is to then make the character's personality into their race, that can make it take up a huge chunk. But if you're just changing their race it's not a big deal at all.

>it's a continuation, not a full on reboot
I said soft reboot, not full reboot. It's a continuation, but it's a huge tonal shift and there's gonna be actual action so it is in a sense a soft reboot of the original.

>yes, it is. and people are saying it's not a good thing, and you're antagonizing them for having this opinion, assuming they're all IdPol obsessed lunatics (like you)
I'm the one being antagonistic? How? I'm not even IdPol either, I don't know where you're getting that from. I'm just saying that making King Grayskull into a buff black man instead of a buff white man is not a big deal in and of itself.

>so don't racebend existing characters... that'll only make the rejection worse
Rejected by the suits in charge you retard, not by people obsessed with screaming about people that are of a different race being in movies and shows.

>so completely different from his intended design.
only if you think being buff is exclusive to a blond white gay dude from an 80s toy commercial

>yes he did... look closely. the differences are pretty minuscule.
he looks very different. He's 100x as roided as He-Man, he's got a completely different, longer hairstyle. Even his facial structure isn't exactly the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:11:15 No.124248443 Report

Quoted By: >>124248461 >>124248548

>>124248377
>Because if you are a citizen you deserve to be represented in media and fiction
No you don't. What are you talking about? No one deserves anything like this. What made up nonsense.

>Not doing so hammers down the notion that you don't belong and you aren't good enough to be anything
This sounds like a mental disorder more than anything if this is how you see things.

>That's why it matters to show all kinds of people doing different kind of roles because it softly encourages people to believe they can do it too
Anon this is a cartoon. He-Man doesn't exist. Stop looking to cartoons to look up to people.

>If you are white and media only depicted you as being a criminal or a janitor, would you be happy with that?

If it was statistically true then sure and by the way white men on tv are often portrayed as fat stupid people who always get corrected by their whose wife or black neighbor. I don't care if it's funny.

>That your people couldn't do any better?
Oh no there is no black he-man character I have no self worth. Anon honestly see a therapist.

>That is why in an equal society it is important to make representation be actually equal rather than pretending it already is because we have couple of old token roles to point to and think that automatically fixed everything

Now I am starting to lean that you are a /pol/ troll acting like a left wing caricature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:11:37 No.124248445 Report

Quoted By: >>124249843

>>124248412
A certain unnamed Orange fellow shut down the oil production in the US that was giving you cheap gas; he even shut down extra when the Mexicans couldn't agree with OPEC to shut down theirs.
Thank him, not me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:11:45 No.124248446 Report

Quoted By: >>124248501 >>124248534

No one answered the million dollar question
How does changing the race of a ancestor from thousands of years ago impact the story whatsoever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:11:58 No.124248448 Report

Quoted By: >>124248485

>>124248387
we're not talking about cultural racial tension.. but tell me, were things tenser in the 90's and 80's? and again tell me, are diversity quotas not a thing? if they are, who pushes for them? or rather, who are the corporations trying to appease/given attention to? politically speaking of course, you wily pilpul peddler

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:13:18 No.124248461 Report

Quoted By: >>124248499 >>124248503

>>124248443
>No you don't. What are you talking about? No one deserves anything like this. What made up nonsense.

OK, so then let's not have any white people anymore because white people don't deserve representation. That's cool to you, right? Or did you just get triggered by suggesting that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:13:32 No.124248465 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248377

This is why I would rather depict my heroes as non human and leave the humans as civillians. Because depicting ANY human is a can of worms these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:13:35 No.124248469 Report

Quoted By: >>124248490

>>124248393
Why not make a new one? You can design him however you and hive him his own backstory. Why is it always the same deal, taking white hand me downs from established IPs? Hell why not make an all black He-Man competitor. An entirely new IP with all black characters......you won't though because this nonsense only works with established IPs. When you try it with a new one it fails. Kinda tells you something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:13:49 No.124248474 Report

Quoted By: >>124248500 >>124248779

>>124248377
So all media must be properganda, because you think people are so narrow minded and racist they cannot be inspired by the actions of people who don't look exactly like them.

Not only is this line of thought extremely racist, it's dangerous and untrue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:13:49 No.124248475 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248197
>You've not actually answered the question; Why DOES representation matter?

because if the only portrayal of you is being a soul sucking demon, people will presume you are a soul sucking demon.

This isn't fucking rocket science

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:14:32 No.124248485 Report

Quoted By: >>124248661

>>124248448
>who are the corporations trying to appease/given attention to?
The majority of their customer base, same as it ever was.
This is corporation/capitalism 101. You were the one who loved Capitalism to pieces. Drink it up.
WTF did you THINK the endgame was, when the Right gave Big Corp unlimited leash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:14:42 No.124248490 Report

Quoted By: >>124248539

>>124248469
Someone wants to make an oc power to him but if they want to make greyskull black that’s great too
Besides some people(obvious who) were whining about the black character in the trailer we wuzzing galore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:15:07 No.124248499 Report

Quoted By: >>124248736

>>124248461

Isn't that what Twitter folks have been doing already? Any fiction with no whites get automatic praise, while even having one white person in a group means that it's not "diverse enough"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:15:13 No.124248500 Report

Quoted By: >>124248609

>>124248474
>So all media must be properganda, because you think people are so narrow minded and racist they cannot be inspired by the actions of people who don't look exactly like them.
>Not only is this line of thought extremely racist, it's dangerous and untrue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:15:16 No.124248501 Report

Quoted By: >>124248519

>>124248446
Because it lessens the impact on how alike Adam and King Greyskull are. Instead of being a transposed direct image of King Greyskull, Adam is now his distant ancestor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:15:21 No.124248503 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248461
Why did you ignore the rest of my post?

Go ahead and make all black TV shows. Yes you have my blessing go for it. Stop relying on us for your entertainment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:16:03 No.124248519 Report

Quoted By: >>124248528

>>124248501
This is literally something next to nobody cares about

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:16:48 No.124248528 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248519
King Greyskull is literally something next to no one cares about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:17:11 No.124248534 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248446
It doesn't, most of the shows that have race swap are in the 4 season and the highest grossing spiderman movie has a black mj.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:17:20 No.124248537 Report

Quoted By: >>124248554

>ITT: white people pretend to be dumb so they can convince themselves media portrayal doesn't affect how people in society are perceived

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:17:23 No.124248539 Report

Quoted By: >>124248552 >>124248571 >>124248630

>>124248490
They don't want to make OC characters they just want to make white hand me downs. Again there is a reason for this and why you only see this stuff in popular IPs. Because no one wants to see an all black He-Man. Disney acknowledges this when they sell movies to China and do their best to hide the black characters on the poster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:17:55 No.124248547 Report

Quoted By: >>124248624

>>124248153
>1610 was not a continuation of 616, Nick Fury stayed white in 616.
You do realize it's the same concept here, right? King Grayskull, as far as the shows go, only ever existed in the 2002 reboot. This new King Grayskull is going to be appearing in the 80s show timeline, which until this point had no King Grayskull properly established. King Grayskull in MOTU Revelations is black, the original King Grayskull from the 2002 show is white. They're two different incarnations of the same character, from separate universes. Same as my Nick Fury example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:17:55 No.124248548 Report

Quoted By: >>124248567

>>124248443
>Stop looking to cartoons to look up to people.

You seem to have some kind of a weird mental condition when you cannot seem to understand that representation doesn't only mean looking up to specific characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:18:17 No.124248552 Report

Quoted By: >>124248582

>>124248539
>They don't want to make OC characters
He-Man has way too many fucking OC characters as it stands. Way, way too many.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:18:23 No.124248554 Report

Quoted By: >>124248613

>>124248537
This is how you know someone is butthurt when they do the indirect green text. I made a long post shooting your shit down and you ignored all of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:19:04 No.124248564 Report

Quoted By: >>124249023

>>124248436
>Only if you make it.
Not really. the difference in skin color alone, that's not getting into hair styles/color and facial features, is gigantic. racism existed for a reason, y'know? because the races are different on the outside.
>If your goal with a race change is to then make the character's personality into their race
errr, no. if your goal is to completely warp the way a character looks to fill a diversity quota because you were afraid your OC's would flop, then it's kind of a big deal.
>I said soft reboot, not full reboot.
yes, in the form of a
>continuation
>I'm just saying that making King Grayskull into a buff black man instead of a buff white man is not a big deal in and of itself.
it's not a "big deal", no, but can we agree that it was needless and forced, given the context above, of the diversity quotas and black OC's perhaps not doing too well? can we agree on that? level with me here
>Rejected by the suits in charge you retard
the ones that forced these diversity quotas on them..? and if the character is a literal who to the average fan, what does it matter? he might as well be an OC. the previous point, that they were afraid their OCs would flop, seems like an excuse now, wouldn't you agree? again, level with me.
>only if you think being buff is exclusive to a blond white gay dude from an 80s toy commercial
no, I don't think this. is that your takeaway from what I said? this can't be so. King Grayskull has a set design, intended to mirror that of He-Man's (blatantly aesthetically) so there's a narrative rhyme and it just falls flat when the only aesthetic resemblance between the two is their outfit.
>he looks very different.
not really... he is bigger and has a different hairstyle, but if you put them side by side I'll bet you'll find more similarities than differences. the point is He-Man should realistically look like Grayskull because Grayskull was his precursor and it's meant to rhyme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:19:24 No.124248567 Report

Quoted By: >>124248668

>>124248548
He literally said this
>That's why it matters to show all kinds of people doing different kind of roles because it softly encourages people to believe they can do it too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:19:34 No.124248571 Report

Quoted By: >>124248602

>>124248539
>white hand me downs.
Good I’m glad to finally be represented as a strong noble hero literally a win win sense we came from negative representation with black caricatures to no representation to some representation
Progress

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:20:02 No.124248577 Report

Quoted By: >>124248599

>>124248280
> that were too similar to each other, different?

The point of King Grey Skull is to be the ancestor to adam and the template for He-man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:20:25 No.124248582 Report

Quoted By: >>124248604 >>124248615

>>124248552
Cool so cut some away. Retire some of the lesser characters and make OC Tyrone the barbarian. No issue with that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:21:16 No.124248599 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248577
Is he his grandpa or He-Man from 5,000 years ago?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:21:34 No.124248602 Report

Quoted By: >>124248616

>>124248571
>Good I’m glad to finally be represented as a strong noble hero
So before this announcement you thought you could never be a strong noble hero?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:21:44 No.124248604 Report

Quoted By: >>124248627

>>124248582
The funny thing is only when you lose like in the op do you suddenly want to come to comprise if we were talking about just adding some important black character youd be all
>we wuz
>no! Fucking! Way!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:22:04 No.124248609 Report

Quoted By: >>124248656 >>124248780 >>124248898 >>124248958 >>124249036

>>124248500
It's not a strawman though.

You literally argued that political agenda must supercede narrative choices based entirely on your racist view of people and their perceptions.

Let me explain this simply for you; people don't care about diversity, they care about their media being good.

As much as people clamour about making Indris Alba the next James Bond, he will simply be less popular with ALL demographics because James Bond as a percieved ideal Indris Alba cannot reach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:22:32 No.124248613 Report

Quoted By: >>124248645 >>124248669

>>124248554
>This is how you know someone is butthurt when they do the indirect green text. I made a long post shooting your shit down and you ignored all of it.

>my random post on an internet anime board refutes proven studies and science

lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:22:36 No.124248615 Report

Quoted By: >>124248670

>>124248582
Really I agree with you overall, it would have been the path of least resistance.
I just don't feel that strongly about existing minor characters in a bloated universe either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:22:47 No.124248616 Report

Quoted By: >>124248632 >>124248670

>>124248602
The more positive media role models for blacks and pocs and women the better. This is not the 50s anymore blonder haired blue eyed man isn’t the only one coming to save the day

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:23:15 No.124248624 Report

Quoted By: >>124249049

>>124248547
well, first off, white Nick Fury came first, and the black Fury came from a world where everything was wantonly different and had a completely different feel to 616. the MCU was also supposed to be a 1610 adaptation, so of course they used 1610 Fury.
>which until this point had no King Grayskull properly established.
as a concept he was already established, even if it was in a different series. who is this guy? King Grayskull. if the MCU wanted to adapt 1610 Nick Fury, and actually made him WHITE (LMAO), THEN that would be a problem. do you understand? he is supposed to be Grayskull from 200X, conceptually, it's a ported concept.
>They're two different incarnations of the same character
I never said otherwise. I just think the change was both needless and distasteful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:23:22 No.124248627 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248604
>The funny thing is only when you lose
I didn't lose. Most of the responses to me are insults or people ignoring what I say. Add a new character and don't refer to him as a King and you won't get meme my thin skinned friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:23:28 No.124248630 Report

Quoted By: >>124248687 >>124248694 >>124248763

>>124248539
First, it a white guy who make character blacks also Disney constantly fail in China with incompetence. Will smith, Terry crews and Lebron is popular in china. Is now a professional tik toker because of china.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:23:37 No.124248632 Report

Quoted By: >>124248692

>>124248616
Why? Do you think Black people and women cannot empathise with Blonde haired blue eyed people?

Why are you so racist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:24:37 No.124248645 Report

Quoted By: >>124248675

>>124248613
>>my random post on an internet anime board refutes proven studies and science
what studies and sciences are we discussing here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:25:26 No.124248656 Report

Quoted By: >>124248693 >>124248706 >>124248780 >>124248958 >>124249036 >>124249155

>>124248609
>intentionally misrepresents anons argument so its easier to defeat
>b-b-ut it's not a strawman anon!!!!1111oneone even though I state things he literally did not even say in the post!!!

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:26:09 No.124248660 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248433
Race is a social construct why would that annoy you? Exact same argument as King Grayskull

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:26:17 No.124248661 Report

Quoted By: >>124248704 >>124248719

>>124248485
>The majority of their customer base, same as it ever was.
the "majority" of the He-Man fanbase didn't ask for this, nobody did really. other than leftists, who are the ones pushing for this kind of stuff.
>You were the one who loved Capitalism to pieces.
reasonable assumption, but an incorrect one.
>WTF did you THINK the endgame was, when the Right gave Big Corp unlimited leash?
black people in cartoons?????? is this the hill to die on? that this was the Right playing 9D chess using the left as pawns for diversity quotas in the 21st century???
take a nap, grandpa

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:26:27 No.124248668 Report

Quoted By: >>124248706 >>124248708

>>124248567
But that doesn't require actively looking up to specific characters. It just means characters who looks like you can inspire you and make you believe in yourself because the character shows it's possible to be something you didn't consider viable before. You don't have to worship and look up to Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon as a role model specifically to think wow I can be a cop too, it just gives you a nudge by showing that hey you might be able to do that too. That's why trying to make representation only about role models is stupid. It's also about shit like giving different perspectives and telling different kinds of stories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:26:27 No.124248669 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248613
>Studies and science

What is this a reference too, if you're trying to argue for representation most studies find the opposite is true and that most ethnicties prefer White characters because they are typically easier to empathise with due to the wider appeal of western culture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:26:35 No.124248670 Report

Quoted By: >>124248710

>>124248615
Glad we came to an agreement. He-Man was a cartoon to sell toys like GI Joe and like GI Joe it had bloat. Retire some guys and make a new black guy character so blacks can have confidence to go out in the world.

>>124248616
You dodged my question. So before this announcement you thought you could never be a strong noble hero?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:26:58 No.124248675 Report

Quoted By: >>124248728

>>124248645
the ones someone would find if they bothered to do a simple google search instead of being complete morons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:27:39 No.124248687 Report

Quoted By: >>124248717 >>124248754 >>124248809

>>124248630
If Chinese love blacks so much why is Disney hiding them in their advertising?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:28:06 No.124248692 Report

Quoted By: >>124248732

>>124248632
Again you spend your whole life never having to ask for representation it was always just there for you to reach into like a big ass bowl of m&ms and you get all pissy when there are non white characters that matter and are just background npc
>are you saying blacks can’t empathize with someone who looks like he man
My entire point is I’m tired of you speaking that Eurocentric standards are the only acceptable forms of representation that’s why any time a non white male is added to something you cry muh pandering muh pandering
The Eurocentric standard of beauty is no longer the sole model of beauty and the revolution will quite literally be televised

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:28:11 No.124248693 Report

Quoted By: >>124248726 >>124248747

>>124248656
>intentionally misrepresents anons argument so its easier to defeat
>b-b-ut it's not a strawman anon!!!!1111oneone even though I state things he literally did not even say in the post!!!
Aren't you misrepresenting what he said by putting words in his mouth?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:28:12 No.124248694 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248630
>Disney constantly fail in China with incompetence.
Half of the highest grossing American films in China are Disney. No studio has a great record with China overall, and most of their "highest grossing" movies are native propaganda pieces.

Endgame is literally the highest grossing non-Chinese film in China ever. Just getting your facts straight.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:28:45 No.124248704 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248661
>the Right playing 9D chess using the left as pawns for diversity quotas in the 21st century???

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:29:05 No.124248706 Report

Quoted By: >>124248785

>>124248656
>Intentionally misrepresent anon's argument.

Did I though? His argument was basically

>We need to reflect the demographics of the population exactly because I THINK people cannot bridge racial gaps and find inspiration and empathy with characters who are not within my demographic

>>124248668
If it's about telling different kinds of stories, why do you need to force it to reflect the demographics of the populace exactly?

Again, you disprove the arguments for representation by point out how useless it actually is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:29:13 No.124248708 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248668
>t just means characters who looks like you can inspire you and make you believe in yourself because the character shows it's possible to be something you didn't consider viable before
Yes this is what looking up to someone means. You look up to a person and believe you can do what they do. You guys are like flat out being dishonest now it's just your nature at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:29:16 No.124248710 Report

Quoted By: >>124248739

>>124248670
Well of course up until recently that’s all we were shown kids will always identify with the hero most of the time it’s just now the her doesn’t just look like Germanys aryan propaganda posters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:29:26 No.124248712 Report

Quoted By: >>124248751 >>124248774

>>124248241
>what did they want to do? they didn't just modify his design, they changed it completely. this isn't the first time Netflix did something like this.
They wanted to have a couple more black characters appear in the show, so they racebent an obscure character who only ever appeared in a reboot of the original show and like 3 issues from 3 comics across the years.

>did this? please answer this.
I think it did. Most black characters appearing in stuff now-a-days are boring or covered up by superhero costumes. having a straight-up roided black warrior dude with dreads is more interesting than most examples of racebending or even just black characters in modern stuff.

>but they turned the one and only Grayskull into someone you wouldn't expect Adam to be the offspring of.
Only if you are unable to process the idea of a white person having a black ancestor somewhere in their family tree

>inb4 "spitting image"
No one has provided evidence beyond "well just look at him!"

> personally, I think it would make him MORE interesting if he DID look like He-Man
Personally, and I say this as someone who has wanted them to do a King Grayskull spinoff since I watched the 2002 cartoon, I think Grayskull's design was the least interesting thing about him. He's not a spitting image of He-Man, he's like a roided, more handsome knock-off

>>124248243
>Again you are changing the argument.
I've not abandoned any argument. You asked "why not make him a buff white dude with dreads" and I answered.

>How does making him black do that?
See my response to the above anon

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:29:39 No.124248717 Report

Quoted By: >>124248765

>>124248687

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:29:46 No.124248719 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248661
>the "majority" of the He-Man fanbase didn't ask for this
There's almost no He-Man "fanbase" left, or the last show would be still running.
The real point of changing the demographics is to attempt to widen the base of appeal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:30:13 No.124248726 Report

Quoted By: >>124248756

>>124248693
NTA but that is exactly what he did, so the phrasing and verbiage is irrelevant. it was a blatant strawman from the very first post. on a sidenote i bet OP is getting a kick out of this autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:30:30 No.124248728 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248675
which are you referring to? What are we supposed to Google?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:31:01 No.124248732 Report

Quoted By: >>124248757 >>124248775

>>124248692
I don't get pissy if I have non white characters.

I get pissy when they take established ideas and lazily paint them black.

See, I like the stories of both Yasuke and William Adams, two foreigners in Japan. You're trying to argue turning William Adams black is just as good as telling the story of Yasuke, because at least we're still getting the story of a black guy in Japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:31:12 No.124248736 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248499
twitter folks make up a relatively small portion of society similar to Alt-Rightoids.

The Twitter Folks you speak of are racists disguising themselves as progressives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:31:33 No.124248739 Report

Quoted By: >>124248775

>>124248710
There were black characters in movies comics and shows in the 80's and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:32:14 No.124248747 Report

Quoted By: >>124248780 >>124248787

>>124248693
uhhh? what?
>You literally argued that political agenda must supercede narrative choices based entirely on your racist view of people and their perceptions.

no he didn't

> because you think people are so narrow minded and racist they cannot be inspired by the actions of people who don't look exactly like them.

no he didn't

do you not know what misrepresent means?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:32:51 No.124248751 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248712
>I've not abandoned any argument. You asked "why not make him a buff white dude with dreads" and I answered.
Yes you did. The argument went again from updating the look to what the artist wants.

>See my response to the above anon
You didn't answer that above

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:33:23 No.124248754 Report

Quoted By: >>124248794

>>124248687
>>124248687
I have no idea, black panther performed well in china although Disney did not advertise it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:33:27 No.124248756 Report

Quoted By: >>124248791 >>124248850

>>124248726
No it isn't. I didn't make up any part of your argument for you, I simply said it in my own words.

The fact you didn't actually give me a reason WHY it was a strawman and instead simply used a fallacy yourself shows you're dishonest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:33:32 No.124248757 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248732
I won't even argue that it isn't lazy, it IS lazy.
It's just not offensive.
Its the flimsiest sort of representation they could inject into the mythos. Replacing Man-at-Arm entirely with a brand new different character would actually be something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:33:54 No.124248763 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248630
Star wars marvel posters constantly disappear the black characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:34:13 No.124248765 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248717
Are you going to address what I asked? What's the 6th highest grossing movie of all time ib China by the way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:35:05 No.124248774 Report

Quoted By: >>124248801

>>124248712
>so they racebent an obscure character
What does it matter how obscure he is? as i said, he might as well be an OC if he is so unknown, so the point is academic.
>having a straight-up roided black warrior dude with dreads is more interesting
you have to examine this holistically, you myopic simpleton. this is KING GRAYSKULL we're talking about here, not some black warrior dude who happens to not be a racist caricature from either side of the political spectrum
>Only if you are unable to process the idea of a white person having a black ancestor somewhere in their family tree
no, because this is fiction, and Adam is his successor in the form of He-Man. THAT is why I think they should look alike. If he had different colored hair but the rest stayed the same I'd still be against it. you know this... right?
>I think Grayskull's design was the least interesting thing about him
it wasn't some random design I hope you realize. it had a narrative purpose that is now defunct because they just couldn't help themselves and changed his race.
>he's like a roided, more handsome knock-off
or, y'know, a mythological precursor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:35:12 No.124248775 Report

Quoted By: >>124248804 >>124248805 >>124248824 >>124249936

>>124248732
Every.single.time. A non white male is given a mantle previously held by a white male you try to wage your little mind games
>muh hand me downs
>muh disrespect
>muh oc icon
Knowing damn well the only thing you care about is keeping what you see white
>>124248739
The term token literally originated from token blacks and other minority groups being given spots
We are gonna shatter that term but introducing more and more pocs and female leads
Under represented no more

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:35:28 No.124248779 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248474
>Not only is this line of thought extremely racist, it's dangerous and untrue.

FYI, anyone who tries to attribute racism as adding more POC characters is full of shit and can be safely be ignored

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:35:46 No.124248780 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248747
The anon in this post: >>124248656
Misrepresented/put words in the mouth of this post: >>124248609

Literally, this anon - >>124248656
Said that this anon - >>124248609 said things that they did not say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:36:10 No.124248785 Report

Quoted By: >>124248863

>>124248706
>If it's about telling different kinds of stories, why do you need to force it to reflect the demographics of the populace exactly?

How is it forcing unless you inherently do not want to see perspectives that differ from you? A naturally curious person would welcome new experiences and povs. Different kinds of people have different experiences and you cannot tell all stories by making them be by default WASPs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:36:14 No.124248787 Report

Quoted By: >>124248818 >>124248854

>>124248747
>Because if you are a citizen you deserve to be represented in media and fiction
> That is why in an equal society it is important to make representation be actually equal rather than pretending it already

How is this not arguing that political agenda must supercede narrative choice?

>media only depicted you as being a criminal or a janitor, would you be happy with that? That your people couldn't do any better? Same logic applies to everyone else, except for the fact that for decades and centuries women and people of color were actively depicted as being less than white men,

How is this not a racist outlook on media?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:36:36 No.124248791 Report

Quoted By: >>124248819

>>124248756
the straw men started when it got political, and when the right was called out. objectively it is a leftist prospect to niggerify the casts of fiction, mandatorily. objectively it is not reasonable to spam white genocide b8 and ignore someone's point because you couldn't tackle it directly, which is what you've been doing this entire thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:36:53 No.124248794 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248754
Oh yea how did it do exactly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:37:38 No.124248801 Report

Quoted By: >>124248815

>>124248774
>What does it matter how obscure he is?

If it's an obscure character, i.e. someone nobody gives a shit about, why does it suddenly become a huge issue if the character gets a revamp where the ethnicity is changed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:37:57 No.124248804 Report

Quoted By: >>124248889

>>124248775
Why do you need to give a mantle of a white man over to a black man?

Why can't the black man have his own mantle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:38:07 No.124248805 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248775
>The term token literally originated from token blacks and other minority groups being given spots
IRONY that you are saying this as the topic of this thread is they are trying to create a token black character in He-Man. Nice self own my dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:38:18 No.124248809 Report

Quoted By: >>124248830

>>124248687
>If Chinese love blacks so much why is Disney hiding them in their advertising?

only a retard would try to find a correlation in the prominence of characters in advertising and try to link it to the perception of an entire ethnic group by an entirely different ethnic group.

or a fucking neanderthal

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:38:43 No.124248815 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248801
how is that any different from an OC? come to think about it, this Grayskull is an OC as opposed to an adaptation... so I guess whoop dee doo, we're both wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:39:01 No.124248818 Report

Quoted By: >>124248827 >>124248851

>>124248787
Because media has historically been very racist and discriminatory in how it depicts women and minorities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:39:13 No.124248819 Report

Quoted By: >>124248847

>>124248791
You're not even arguing the same point now, you're trying to conflate out discussion with a vague overarching meta-narrative.

You're strawmanning my position by assuming something I have not done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:39:39 No.124248824 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248775

>basic logic backed with evidence
>confusing "mind games"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:39:44 No.124248827 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248818
historically? feh. today? heh!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:39:50 No.124248830 Report

Quoted By: >>124248867

>>124248809
Yet my question still remains. If Chinese love blacks so much why is Disney hiding them in their advertising?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:40:06 No.124248833 Report

Quoted By: >>124248852

>>124246456
>i had to destroy an existing white character to feed my black ego because i am a fragile narcissist!
Dude holy shit this pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:40:23 No.124248836 Report

Quoted By: >>124248908

>>124248186
>straighten their hair to do it.
This also I’m tired of blacks only having brown eyes colored contacts people!!
>see where you leave your self open to pol fags muh white hair style muh white aesthetic attacks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:41:14 No.124248847 Report

Quoted By: >>124248869

>>124248819
Not remotely. You're so desperately hoping to be right that you never pondered that you might be wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:41:22 No.124248850 Report

Quoted By: >>124248869

>>124248756
>I didn't make up any part of your argument for you, I simply said it in my own words.
Not that anon but, respectfully:
That is literally putting words in someone's mouth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:41:22 No.124248851 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248818
Some of it has, to describe it entirely as one monolith through the lens of modern standards is both destructive and naive.

Claiming an interracial kiss is a special moment right now is pretty racist, but we've already seen it be lauded as an achivement in this thread, you're simply arguing the reverse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:41:24 No.124248852 Report

Quoted By: >>124249812

>>124248833
>greyskulls entire character was ruined because he was made black

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:41:29 No.124248853 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246837
Multiple people in the industry have been recorded confirming they want less white people

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:41:41 No.124248854 Report

Quoted By: >>124248872 >>124248885

>>124248787
>How is this not arguing that political agenda must supercede narrative choice?
Lol. what the fuck are you talking about? He never mentioned ''''''political agenda'''' you fucking did. Because to you "representation" somehow equates to a "political agenda" LOL

>How is this not a racist outlook on media?
Apparently it's racist to be aware of history.
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:42:14 No.124248863 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248785
>WASPs
So called WASPs are actually a minority in this country a mere regional fraction of "white" people in the US. Easily outnumbered by Hispanics by the hundreds of thousands easily

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:42:32 No.124248865 Report

Quoted By: >>124248879 >>124248900

>NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. THERE HAVE TO BE BLACK PEOPLE IN EVERYTHING, AND WHEN THERE ARE ALREADY BLACK PEOPLE, WE NEED MORE BLACK PEOPLE. AND WE ALSO NEED TO RACEBEND EXISTING CHARACTERS TO MAXIMIZE MELANIN SINCE IT'S NOT EXPENDABLE LIKE WHITENESS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:42:43 No.124248867 Report

Quoted By: >>124248873

>>124248830
Please tell me what the correlation between advertisign and chines perception of black people is. Sounds like you're making shit up to fit you retarded world view

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:42:54 No.124248869 Report

Quoted By: >>124248874 >>124248898

>>124248847
Care to actually refute my argument then instead or writing empty phrases?

>>124248850
Paraphrasing someones argument doesn't make it a strawman, I didn't purposefully misrepresent his argument, hence why he can't actually point out WHY it was a strawman without confusing paraphrasing for strawmanning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:43:19 No.124248872 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248854
>haha blacks are just minstrels and non human looking
>LOLE
>what you want to be shown dignified? Why? You can’t identify with this fine black representation before you
Exactly what I mean now imagine growing up in this kind of atmosphere like that coal black and the sebbin dwarves shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:43:40 No.124248873 Report

Quoted By: >>124248893 >>124248925

>>124248867
Can you answer my question? Why would Disney alter their posters for Chinese audiences?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:43:55 No.124248874 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248869
>i didn't misrepresent his argument
>yes you did
>go up 300 posts and show me
>no
basically this.
you're both stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:44:32 No.124248879 Report

Quoted By: >>124248888 >>124248916

>>124248865
>majority of people are non white
>majority of characters and comic books feature mostly white cast
? Should we stop pandering to whites?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:45:03 No.124248885 Report

Quoted By: >>124248963

>>124248854
>He never mentioned political agenda.

How is "That is why in an equal society it is important to make representation" not a political agenda?

>Apparently it's racist to be aware of history.

It is when you tar everything with a wide brush from your naive modern outlook.

What was considered not racist and progressive yesterday can be considered racist today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:45:37 No.124248888 Report

Quoted By: >>124248903

>>124248879
the countries where these characters and comic books are produced... are they mostly white?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:45:38 No.124248889 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248804
Kevin Smith should have ceded his showrunner status to a female black pot smoking track and field runner

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:45:46 No.124248893 Report

Quoted By: >>124248907

>>124248873
Because China is like 50s America and wanted no black representation anywhere in their sight? Oh but that’s strange I thought representation was just always around for blacks

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:46:00 No.124248896 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248175
They won't because they know they're in the wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:46:17 No.124248898 Report

Quoted By: >>124248919

>>124248869
>"b-b-ut it's not a strawman anon!!!!1111oneone even though I state things he literally did not even say in the post!!!"
This isn't paraphrasing what was said in >>124248609

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:46:36 No.124248900 Report

Quoted By: >>124248926 >>124248933 >>124248934 >>124248953

>>124248865

>NO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. SEGREGATION ONLY ENDED 57 YEARS AGO! WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCED IT ARE STILL ALIVE! RACISM DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE DESPITE ALL EVIDENCE THAT PROVES TO THE CONTRARY! YOU CANT MAKE THEM BLACK ITS WHITE GENOCIIIIIDEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:46:48 No.124248903 Report

Quoted By: >>124248917

>>124248888
Hmmm but the overall market base is non white.... maybe we should stop pandering to whites they are a global minority after all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:47:10 No.124248907 Report

Quoted By: >>124248924

>>124248893
50's America wasn't a communist dictatorship

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:47:13 No.124248908 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248836
Take your meds. Overdose on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:47:41 No.124248916 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248879
Yes and whites in Hollywood need to bravely resign and let so called minorities take their positions

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:47:42 No.124248917 Report

Quoted By: >>124248936 >>124249002

>>124248903
>pandering
white people make white things when there are no quotas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:47:49 No.124248919 Report

Quoted By: >>124248958

>>124248898
Can you point out how it is a strawman then? Because it doesn't make the argument any less defendable.

Unless you're going to argue forcing diversity isn't a political position and not what was being discussed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:48:19 No.124248924 Report

Quoted By: >>124248944

>>124248907
>what do 50s white america and communist China have in common
>more than you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:48:22 No.124248925 Report

Quoted By: >>124248944

>>124248873
This guy is like one of those robo callers that just repeat their message over and over again LMAO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:48:26 No.124248926 Report

Quoted By: >>124248984

>>124248900
>NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO MAKE A LOGICAL CONNECTION BETWEEN THE THINGS I'M SAYING! THAT'S RACIST SHIEEEEEEEEET

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:48:59 No.124248931 Report

Quoted By:

Today I learned that black people can't function in society unless a white He-Man character becomes black. I never realized how fragile they were until today. I wonder how many angry "no u" responses this will generate any guesses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:49:08 No.124248933 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248900
All caps to the garbage it goes are you getting upset?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:49:11 No.124248934 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248900
>NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SLAVERY AND JIM CROWE ARE WHY WE NEED BLACK PEOPLE IN CARTOONS OH MY GOD I NEED BLACK PEOPLE IN CARTOONS LET ME BRING UP WHITE GENOCIDE FOR NO REASON OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD I HAVEN'T SEEN BLACK PEOPLE IN EXACTLY ZERO MODERN FICTIONAL SETTINGS WE NEED TO GET IT DOWN TO NEGATIVE NUMBERS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:49:20 No.124248936 Report

Quoted By: >>124248959 >>124248965

>>124248917
Yeah but whites are a minority and as the poltards sense of logic goes anytime you put out media with a minority representation that’s by default pandering

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:50:00 No.124248944 Report

Quoted By: >>124248969 >>124248993 >>124248996

>>124248924
Nothing much really.

>>124248925
99% of arguing with a liberal is not letting them change the subject or dodge questions. They love doing that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:51:13 No.124248953 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248900
If segregation ended 57 years ago, why do we need to constantly refer to it like it is a looming threat?

Know what else was a threat around 57 years ago? Polio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:51:42 No.124248958 Report

Quoted By: >>124249012

>>124248919
>Can you point out how it is a strawman then?
I am saying that one post in particular was a blatant misrepresentation of what he said.
This post: >>124248656
Misrepresented
This post: >>124248609
That's not paraphrasing the post. It's inserting entirely fabricated text.

I pointed out the irony there of someone complaining about a straman while doing exactly that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:51:47 No.124248959 Report

Quoted By: >>124248991

>>124248936
The problem is not niggers, it's blackwashing. why can't you understand this? the suits asserted that there need to be diversity quotas, but they also don't approve of black OC's? while approving of blackwashed characters they probably never even heard about, who might as well be OC's themselves? white products always sold just fine, by the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:52:07 No.124248963 Report

Quoted By: >>124248997

>>124248885
>How is "That is why in an equal society it is important to make representation" not a political agenda?

What the fuk are you talking about? I guess ending slavery is also a political agenda Lmao. Womens right to vote is also a political agenda.

>>124248885
>It is when you tar everything with a wide brush from your naive modern outlook.
a racist form of entertainment created in the 1800s is apparently tarring everything with a 'wide brush'

That's basically the entire duration of the USAs time as sovereign nation. But yeah it absolutely had no effect on the perception of blacks. LMAO. You're a fucking moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:52:14 No.124248965 Report

Quoted By: >>124248981 >>124248983 >>124249055

>>124248936
>But whites are a minority

Shouldn't we pander to them more then? We need more equal representation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:52:23 No.124248969 Report

Quoted By: >>124249003 >>124249916

>>124248944
>hatred for blacks irrationally
>subservience to the status quo
>blind following of antiquated senses of culture that no longer applies in today’s world
>large population of ignorant people who are cruel to their minority neighbors
Yeah a lot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:53:26 No.124248981 Report

Quoted By: >>124249016

>>124248965
Sure but youve already been pandered to enough it’s time for majority races to get more representation you wouldn’t want pity handouts would you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:53:31 No.124248983 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248965
no you see, he changed the justification from a moral obligation to economics, like the pilpul wielder he is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:53:34 No.124248984 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248926
>IM A KEK AND MY GREENTEXT HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THIS DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER WHITE GENOCIDEEE MMM FILL ME WITH YOUR SEED BLACK BULLs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:54:20 No.124248991 Report

Quoted By: >>124249077

>>124248959
They know their propaganda doesn't work in new IPs so they have to take existing popular IPs and race change characters and almost always black. Why not Latino or Asian? It's almost always black. America has a weird fetish for black people

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:54:33 No.124248992 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246819
but they didn't add black characters
they replaced white people with blacks with the stupid bs reason of DO WE REALLY NEED WHITE PEOPLE?!?!
the guy even says what if our new black doesnt sell
even jacks himself off over getting poc to voice poc characters
i think the next step is that white people really shouldn't create or write dialogue or even draw poc cause that's pretty much creating their own slaves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:54:35 No.124248993 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248944
Checked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:54:50 No.124248996 Report

Quoted By: >>124249019

>>124248944

>republitart can't even comprehend anon is calling him a retard for asking the same question about two things that have no connection
>thinks this is a valid form of discourse

cant make this up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:54:54 No.124248997 Report

Quoted By: >>124249029

>>124248963
How is "We need direct population representation in media" even remotely related to ending slavery or women's vote?

Also yes, those things were political agendas at the time.

>a racist form of entertainment created in the 1800s is apparently tarring everything with a 'wide brush'

No, but assuming black people only had minstral shows up till 2020 is a retarded argument to make.

the only retard here is you, who thinks the 1800s have any bearing on the modern politcal climate.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:55:07 No.124248999 Report

Quoted By: >>124249025

is this even possible to believe? am i being punked right now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:55:17 No.124249002 Report

Quoted By: >>124249020

>>124248917
Why does race have to be such a big issue? Why does it matter so much? Because of abuse, inequality, and denial of the history that created modern trends. Obviously I'm talking specifically about the USA. Should race matter so much? In our specific case in the USA? Yes. It's due to the denial of the past that is still happening to this day. Abuse begets abuse. Poverty breeds poverty. The people who fought to end segregation are still alive today. The first black child to enter a non segregated school? She's alive today. That's how fresh the wounds are. So why not make him black? Why does it even matter that much?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:55:29 No.124249003 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248969
>empty vague nonsense
>empty vague nonsense
>empty vague nonsense
>empty vague nonsense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:56:31 No.124249012 Report

Quoted By: >>124249036

>>124248958
that's not a misrepresentation, anon was clearly telling him HOW he misrepresented the post that he quoted prior? Are you dumb?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:56:33 No.124249013 Report

Quoted By: >>124249130

>>124246306
>King Greyskull
>black
Darn, That was my favorite character. I remember the 9 times his name was mention on /co/
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/co.desu.meta/text/%22King%20greyskull%22/filter/not-spoiler/

I remember the one episode he had 20 years. I remember the 2 times he made a cameo appearance in the comics. Now he is completely ruined because of his skin color.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:56:47 No.124249016 Report

Quoted By: >>124249050 >>124249143

>>124248981
Have we? the only media that has white people as any outstanding group is white media.

No, you're wrong. I demand that white people are shown more on Korean, Chinese andJapanese television, How else am I to see what I, a white person, can aspire to living in those countries?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:56:55 No.124249019 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248996
I comprehended well. What I said was correct.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:57:03 No.124249020 Report

Quoted By: >>124249101

>>124249002
There are already black characters in fiction. all the most popular fictional settings had black people in spades well before diversity quotas became a thing, not to mention racebending wh*tes and gingers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:57:51 No.124249023 Report

Quoted By: >>124249033 >>124249069

>>124248564
>Not really. the difference in skin color alone, that's not getting into hair styles/color and facial features, is gigantic.
In the grand scheme of things it's not.

>racism existed for a reason, y'know? because the races are different on the outside.
Racism exists because there are retarded people who have nothing better to do than look down on people that look different than them. That manifests and manifested in the past in a wide variety of ways.

>yes, in the form of a
>continuation
This is such a weird thing for you to get hung up on

>it's not a "big deal", no, but can we agree that it was needless and forced, given the context above, of the diversity quotas and black OC's perhaps not doing too well? can we agree on that? level with me here
I wouldn't say forced, but in the sense of "there was no NEED to change anything at all" I can agree. There was clearly a want to sprinkle just a little bit more diversity and they did it in a pretty reasonable way. And they're getting the Allstate dude to voice him.

> King Grayskull has a set design
Set designs don't stay set forever.

>not really... he is bigger and has a different hairstyle, but if you put them side by side I'll bet you'll find more similarities than differences.
The only things they directly share in common design-wise are

>hair color
>skin color(2002)
>having muscles
>semi-similar outfit

Other than that they were different. He-Man was a buff Prince Adam with a slightly more chiseled face. Grayskull was straight up handsome squidward in terms of chiseled facial features with the squarest jaw and most defined cheekbones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:58:03 No.124249025 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248999
does leftypol really?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:58:49 No.124249028 Report

Quoted By: >>124249044

>People deciding that they love or hate a show before a single minute airs

I hate the culture wars so fucking much

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:58:54 No.124249029 Report

Quoted By: >>124249076

>>124248997
>>124248997
>the only retard here is you, who thinks the 1800s have any bearing on the modern politcal climate.

yes, the very founding of media portrayal of blacks being based on racist beliefs had no effect on anything whatsoever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:58:55 No.124249030 Report

Quoted By: >>124249085 >>124249105

>>124246719

It was a low-energy toy commercial, why is this such a sacred cow to people?

>white genocide

oh yeah, you're afraid of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:59:04 No.124249031 Report

Quoted By: >>124249052 >>124249080 >>124249132

I can't sympathize with this concept of representation. Like if the US collapsed and India and Japan took me in I would not demand them be less Indian and Japanese and demand more white representation. That is rude and disrespectful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:59:10 No.124249033 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249023
Nigga are you serious? King Greyskull literally looks like an older He-man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:59:21 No.124249036 Report

Quoted By: >>124249061 >>124249104

>>124249012
Read this post:
>>124248609
Tell me, where in that post he said, "b-b-ut it's not a strawman anon!!!!1111oneone even though I state things he literally did not even say in the post!!!"
He didn't. Hence, >>124248656 said that anon made a statement they didn't make.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 06:59:29 No.124249039 Report

Quoted By: >>124249059

>ITT amerimutts argue about family bloodline purity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:00:06 No.124249044 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249028
>>People deciding that they love or hate a show before a single minute airs
The topic of the thread is a single character being race changed not the quality of the show. Who are you arguing with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:00:20 No.124249049 Report

Quoted By: >>124249102

>>124248624
>as a concept he was already established, even if it was in a different series.
He was established in the 2002 series. The 1980s show had no King Grayskull established.

>he is supposed to be Grayskull from 200X, conceptually, it's a ported concept.
By that logic 1610 Nick Fury is 616 Nick Fury

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:00:29 No.124249050 Report

Quoted By: >>124249121

>>124249016
Most characters and roles are still played by white people. You're not being erased. What do you want?

I agree that other countries aren't doing this, but does that mean that representing the melting pot of America, with all different types of Americans no matter race, is wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:00:34 No.124249052 Report

Quoted By: >>124249068

>>124249031
you're completely right

we should immediately abolish all white representation in america since they are all foreign invaders and create new media centered around the true americans

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:00:59 No.124249055 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248965

>not immediately recognizing sarcasm

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:01:11 No.124249059 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249039
Better than Europeans from 99.8% white areas lecturing us on racial politics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:01:35 No.124249061 Report

Quoted By: >>124249073

>>124249036

......
ah, I see. you are retarded. Good day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:02:31 No.124249068 Report

Quoted By: >>124249121 >>124249148

>>124249052
Ok let's do it. But do you agree with my point that in that situation it would be disrespectful to demand India and Japan be more white?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:02:33 No.124249069 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249023
>In the grand scheme of things it's not.
delusional and biased faggot
>Racism exists because there are retarded people who have nothing better to do than look down on people that look different than them
>that look different than them
hmm
>This is such a weird thing for you to get hung up on
It's canon to the OG show
>I wouldn't say forced,
of course you wouldn't. you made up your mind already and cannot level or avert your preconceptions
>There was clearly a want to sprinkle just a little bit more diversity
diversity quotas
>and they did it in a pretty reasonable way.
I disagree.
>Set designs don't stay set forever.
set looks tend to. a character's race seldom changes. and before you bring up Nick Fury again, 1610 Fury and 616 Fury are completely different characters, to the point where they only share the name. sorry I'm not colorblind like you.
>Other than that they were different.
your image served to prove that He-Man looks like a younger Grayskull

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:02:42 No.124249073 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249061
I've been nothing but civil and you're being actively aggressive and belligerent for no discernable reason.
Show me where he said it. Please. I'm begging you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:02:47 No.124249076 Report

Quoted By: >>124249153

>>124249029
Not in 2020, where said stereotypes from the 1800s have been in poor taste for like 90 years.

You don't really understand how minstral shows were considered poor taste back in like the 1910s right? Vauderville killed it dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:02:48 No.124249077 Report

Quoted By: >>124249123

>>124248991
>almost always black. Why not Latino or Asian?

Snow white is latina and this board does not care. 4chan focus on one race an actively ignore others.
>Minor character is black
>Reach bump limit and get multiple threads

>Major or side character is none black minority
>can't reach 100 replies, quickly forgotten

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:03:08 No.124249080 Report

Quoted By: >>124249142

>>124249031
The different races are just as American. It's a melting pot. A few generations ago in the 80s Italians that were already here for two generations or more were considered filthy immigrants. It all changes so quickly with assimilation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:03:34 No.124249085 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249030
>why did they do this
>WHITE GENOCIDE, HE BELIEVES IN CONSPIRACIES, HE IS SILLY!
every time. why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:04:46 No.124249101 Report

Quoted By: >>124249116

>>124249020
Yeah there weren't any black major characters in this show outside of a blue guy that was implied black. They made a minor character black. Oh no! I'm not getting the hysteria.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:04:56 No.124249102 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249049
>He was established in the 2002 series.
and ported into the new one, as supposedly the same character. then they completely changed how he looked.
>By that logic 1610 Nick Fury is 616 Nick Fury
no, and I'm not sure how you drew this conclusion. even if they behaved the same way they wouldn't be the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:05:14 No.124249104 Report

Quoted By: >>124249155

>>124249036
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
that's not a strawman. The guy you quoted had no argument, he was calling out the other guy for strawmanning the other other guys post by misrepresenting his statements so he could easily refute them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:05:16 No.124249105 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249030
He didn't say it was because of white genocide anon. You keep putting words into everyone's mouths. Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:05:57 No.124249116 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249101
yes, because He-Man and She-Ra were the main characters. what else you got?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:06:17 No.124249121 Report

Quoted By: >>124249156

>>124249050
>>124249068
No, I demand Japanese and Indian media to better respresent the small demographics of white people in those countries.

In fact, I demand several Devas in any Indian movie be represented by white people, because we need fair and equal representation that inspired those white minorities to do better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:06:26 No.124249123 Report

Quoted By: >>124249189

>>124249077
>Snow white is latina and this board does not care
Seems like there is less conflict in that because it's not done as often. I don't know what you expect, 300 replies complementing it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:07:09 No.124249130 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249013
Honestly really sad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:07:15 No.124249132 Report

Quoted By: >>124249170

>>124249031
Except the difference here is that black people are already a part of the US. They're not moving into your country and demanding they be represented, they grew up there and are asking why they're not being included in their own culture. Which is fine, really, and we all know that the answer is because they're a minority and minority are, by nature, rarer than the majority.
And partially because they're not as connected to American culture as they could be, which leads to them not associating with it in current media.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:08:19 No.124249142 Report

Quoted By: >>124249178

>>124249080
Sure but something could happen that causes a lot of American to become refugees and be taken in by other countries. Kind of like Latinos who do the same and are a large majority. So again if that happened in India and Japan would that be disrespectful to demand them give more white representation? It's a hypothetical question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:08:21 No.124249143 Report

Quoted By: >>124249199

>>124249016
>Have we?
>literally never crossed his mind about representation because he’s so inundated with his pick of inspiring white characters to look at
That’s what I’m talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:08:48 No.124249146 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246306
>It's the year 2021 of our Lord
>have to justify characters looking the way they're supposed to look now
It's all so tiresome. Especially when the only argument starts as "well why not? I don't care about this show anyways" and evolves into a mess of politics of yore and "There HAVE to be black people in this cartoon even though there already were black people in the OG. No, you don't understand, niggerinos NEED the spotlight in He-Man and everywhere else"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:08:51 No.124249148 Report

Quoted By: >>124249195

>>124249068
White people don't have the population percentage and history in India or Japan to demand it. In India they were colonial rulers, in Japan they were tightly controlled guests. In the USA they were a welcome and cheap labor force. There's a major historical difference.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:09:09 No.124249153 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249076
>You don't really understand how minstral shows were considered poor taste back in like the 1910s right? Vauderville killed it dead.

really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:09:36 No.124249155 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249104
>I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
Entirely serious.
>that's not a strawman
He very clearly didn't say that. This anon:
>>124248656
Was complaining about a strawman while making one themselves by very clearly saying they said something they didn't.

Saying that someone said something they didn't is, by definition, misrepresenting what they said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:09:45 No.124249156 Report

Quoted By: >>124249199

>>124249121
Just media? Not politics? How can I look up to politics and feel represented if there are none that look like me in that example?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:10:58 No.124249170 Report

Quoted By: >>124249243

>>124249132
>Except the difference here is that black people are already a part of the US. They're not moving into your country and demanding they be represented
This is exactly what Latinos are doing in the US though.They slowly immigrated here and demand representation. It's very telling the dodges to this hypothetical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:11:34 No.124249178 Report

Quoted By: >>124249209

>>124249142
Yeah, after enough time and events, where whites were naturalized, yeah I could see it. You only need to look to South Africa to see a society that would interest you. I highly recommend you look into it and see how it plays out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:12:07 No.124249188 Report

Quoted By: >>124249200 >>124249222

>>124246306
>the autist arguing in favor is now arguing against
>the autist arguing against is now arguing in favor
I seriously can't be the only one that sees this, can I? Are they bots? shills? is this a data mining thread?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:12:08 No.124249189 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249123
As I said it is quickly forgotten like black canary, buttercup, peter pan, some guy from shield, some guy from ant man.

I'm not sure if a single person cared when the gave wonder women a Hispanic accent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:12:26 No.124249195 Report

Quoted By: >>124249276

>>124249148
>White people don't have the population percentage and history in India or Japan to demand it.
What does this even mean? Whites would be a minority in my example isn't the whole point to give everyone representation specifically minorities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:12:49 No.124249199 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249143
There is a fairly sizable Australian minority in japan, yet we barely get represented in Japanese media.

I demand Japanese media fix this, and we need more Australians in Japanese politics like >>124249156 says.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:13:14 No.124249200 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249188
>bots
nah
>shills
yah
>data mining
maybe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:13:58 No.124249209 Report

Quoted By: >>124249227 >>124249229

>>124249178
South Africa is a murderous shithole though to the point where SA twitch streamers get assaulted mid stream by blacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:14:59 No.124249222 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249188
who are you referring to? Why do you passive aggressive losers do this indirect greentext just reply to whoever upset you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:15:27 No.124249227 Report

Quoted By: >>124249252 >>124249274

>>124249209
I suppose you have evidence to substantiate your claims, schizo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:15:32 No.124249229 Report

Quoted By: >>124249252

>>124249209
Yeah, clearly SA needs to give more representation in their media for white people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:16:14 No.124249239 Report

Quoted By:

niggers. niggers everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:16:44 No.124249243 Report

Quoted By: >>124249267

>>124249170
Latinos were a part of the USA before all the states even existed. Latinos are a mix of natives, spaniards, blacks, and whites. They've been living in this country since its birth. The immigrants moving up north are only seeking a better paycheck. They're capitalists that wish to capitalize. You don't think it's fair for them to compete on the open market? They're just responding to supply and demand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:17:26 No.124249252 Report

Quoted By: >>124249268 >>124249274 >>124249293

>>124249227
https://olhardigital.com.br/en/2021/06/24/games-e-consoles/casal-streamer-e-assaltado-durante-live-veja/?gfetch=2021%2F06%2F24%2Fjuegos-y-consolas%2Fpareja-streamer-y-robado-durante-la-visualizaci%C3%B3n-en-vivo%2F

>>124249229
South Africans need to stop being killed by blacks. Cartoon representation is the least of their worries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:18:49 No.124249267 Report

Quoted By: >>124249365

>>124249243
>Latinos were a part of the USA before all the states even existed
No they weren't unless now you are calling native americans latinos.

The government changing laws to get more immigrants in this country isn't capitalism.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:19:07 No.124249268 Report

Quoted By: >>124249342

>>124249252
schizo-sama... I'm sorry I doubted you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:19:21 No.124249274 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249227
>>124249252
The chance of getting murder in south Africa is .0036%. I can post a murder in Russia and USA and say that murder is high.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:19:25 No.124249276 Report

Quoted By: >>124249299 >>124249336

>>124249195
What's your definition of minorities? And what makes a Minority relevant in a population? African Americans have been with America since its foundation. Whites have not been with India or Japan since their foundation. Whites don't make up 13% of their population. It's not a valid comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:21:32 No.124249293 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249252
I literally pointed out south Africa because it's a country where white people are discriminated against, vs what is happening in the USA. You really suck at being aware of the conversation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:22:01 No.124249299 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249276
not that anon but this line of thought bamboozles me.
on the one hand you act like it's a moral imperative to be more inclusive in cartoons, and that's why they do it.
on the other hand you act like they do it to pander to the larger nonwhite audiences, and that's why they do it.
why DO they do it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:22:49 No.124249303 Report

Quoted By: >>124250235

>>124247390
Oh, I see. And the Earth is flat, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:23:04 No.124249308 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246306
https://boondocks.fandom.com/wiki/Black_Power_Fist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:25:57 No.124249336 Report

Quoted By: >>124249375

>>124249276
Someone not the majority race.
Latinos and Asians were not at the US's foundation and now they demand representation and Asia is not just China.
>Whites don't make up 13% of their population
Is there some kind of mathematical formula I wasn't aware of where you must be x amount of the population to matter?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:26:19 No.124249342 Report

Quoted By: >>124249356

>>124249268
>>124249268
No need to kneel. He is pretending a statistically insignificant and yearly worldwide decrease experience. Is a relevant problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:28:13 No.124249356 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249342
why is that chart cut off? Also I said something was happening and proved it as you asked for proof. Don't deflect now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:29:15 No.124249365 Report

Quoted By: >>124249396

>>124249267
Capitalists will go for the cheapest labor. If that happens to be illegal immigrants? Guess what real Capitalists will do. You don't even know what Capitalists are. God you're ignorant.

And yes, latinos are a blend. Fuck you're so damn dumb. You don't even know American history. Latinos were already all over the south west and west. The colonization of the americas happened in the 1400s and took place over centuries. The USA is only 2 centuries old. Latinos have existed before the USA was a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:31:03 No.124249375 Report

Quoted By: >>124249412

>>124249336
Latinos existed before the USA did. Asians were imported to work before many states existed. They've been a huge part of American history. Why are there so many holes in your knowledge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:32:40 No.124249386 Report

Quoted By: >>124249833

>>124246689
Why not just use another name? I mean, the character is basically an OC and I bet Andra has like... less than 100 fans, those fans will reject her as if she were a new character

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:33:40 No.124249396 Report

Quoted By: >>124249425 >>124249428 >>124249442

>>124249365
If the government is getting involved and allowing more immigration in that isn't free market capitalism anymore thats some corporations buying off politicians. God you are ignorant.

I don't even have to have this semantics battle with you about Latinos because people like Indians from India and other Asian countries demand representation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:35:01 No.124249412 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249375
>They've been a huge part of American history.
Because they had wars with us? Can you explain why Indians and Koreans demand representation too? I want to see the stretching you do for those?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:37:01 No.124249425 Report

Quoted By: >>124249437

>>124249396
If the government is getting involved denying me my right to hire people who want my jobs then I see it as government over reach. You just want to force me to over pay some demanding coddled millennial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:37:22 No.124249428 Report

Quoted By: >>124249454

>>124249396
Free market applies to the government, it's not free if something is arbitrarily not for sale and imposes rules. If a business wants to buy open borders and can afford it, they should be able to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:38:31 No.124249437 Report

Quoted By: >>124249463

>>124249425
Thats not whats being said here. I am talking about stuff like H1B visas created by the government to give corporations cheap labor. That is not free market capitalism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:39:01 No.124249442 Report

Quoted By: >>124249465

>>124249396
Yeah, forget African Americans and latinos that existed here since the creation of the nation, what about these other people? Fuck me you're stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:40:06 No.124249454 Report

Quoted By: >>124249486

>>124249428
The definition of free market capitalism is little to no government interference. If the government is displacing American workers for cheap labor that is no longer free market capitalism. Now reply and ignore this again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:41:01 No.124249463 Report

Quoted By: >>124249485

>>124249437
Those only exist because of corporations lobbying for cheap labor. That's the only reason those exist. Corporations want cheap labor and they'll pour loads of money into it. That's American capitalists exploiting everything they can. It's the name of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:41:14 No.124249465 Report

Quoted By: >>124249492

>>124249442
Why are Indians from India and other Asians (not just China) demanding the same?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:42:56 No.124249485 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249463
I agree but thats not free market capitalism anymore that's government overreach now and basic corruption. I am not shocked that a discussion about changing a cartoon characters race has led the communists/socialists/Maoists to start whining about capitalism now for.......reasons?

>in b4 you don't know what those mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:43:09 No.124249486 Report

Quoted By: >>124249500

>>124249454
Look at >>124249454

Capitalists will reach a point where they can use their money to rig the game for themselves. This will happen time and time again. Free capitalism doesn't exist. Those with power will always rig the game in their favor, because to them that's just fair play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:44:09 No.124249492 Report

Quoted By: >>124249505

>>124249465
Because they see themselves as Americans, as they have been raised to believe. Now answer my question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:45:10 No.124249500 Report

Quoted By: >>124249538

>>124249486
Capitalists can use their money however they want to crush the competition but once the government is involved through bribes that is not free market capitalism anymore. Do I have to start just spamming the definition now since you are ignoring my posts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:46:24 No.124249505 Report

Quoted By: >>124249555

>>124249492
Ok what if I move to Japan as well does a sizable amount of Americans and we see ourselves as Japanese. Is it disrespect to Japan and their culture demand Japan be less Asian and more white?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:51:25 No.124249538 Report

Quoted By: >>124249577

>>124249500
So you want government regulations? Because without government regulation why shouldn't capitalists import cheap labor? It's not against the law. Why shouldn't they buy out all new competition? It's not against the law. Why shouldn't they have corporate towns? It isn't against the law. Why should they pay their workers in their own currency? It isn't against the law. Why have 40 hour work weeks? Why pay a minimum wage? Why do anything? Free market, baby.

When does the government get involved? You are so fucking stupid. You have no idea how anything works. Why do I even bother with this childish shit? You're fucking 14 and retarded aren't you. How do you not understand the most basic fundamentals. How have you remained so ignorant. Fuck the education system for producing retards like you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:53:09 No.124249555 Report

Quoted By: >>124249577

>>124249505
Japan actively fights immigration to their own economic detriment. This is a well studied phenomenon. Catch up. It isn't a good comparison despite what your two brain cells thought it would be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:57:09 No.124249577 Report

Quoted By: >>124249612

>>124249538
I think a moderate amount of government regulations is ok like busting Monopolies but not displacing American workers. It all depends.

Why are we having this argument about capitalism and why are you getting so mad about it? The topic is about a cartoon.

>>124249555
Ok pick a country, India, China, Iraq, Ethiopia any non white majority country. Again it's telling how you are dodging and weaving you could easily just say ok to remain consistent but you won't because this has never been about representation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 07:59:57 No.124249593 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246306
tiresome tiresome

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:02:05 No.124249612 Report

Quoted By: >>124249649

>>124249577
No the topic was changed and you showed your ignorance over how capitalism functions in reality. You obviously have a 14 year olds understanding of history and economics. It isn't fun to talk with you as I'd spend the entire conversation filling gaps in your knowledge. Basically free tutoring. Go to a respectable college. Take history and economics classes. You obviously don't have the drive to study it independently.

You're the reason most news is delivered at the 5th grade reading level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:07:19 No.124249649 Report

Quoted By: >>124249708

>>124249612
>The free market is an economic system based on supply and demand with little or no government control.
Is this wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:18:19 No.124249708 Report

Quoted By: >>124249725

>>124249649
I made an entire post outlining situations where government control is necessary. In your over simplified view capitalism results in an almost serfdom. Look into company cities and the invention of the 40 hour work week. Look at all the death and blood spilled. You have no idea what you're talking about. I gotta sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:20:43 No.124249725 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249708
>In your over simplified view capitalism
It's the literal definition anon. You are redefining what it was to suite your argument just like the nutjobs who redefined what the word racism means.

I accept your concession. Communism will never win. Later

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:23:00 No.124249738 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246758
>He's rebooting an awful toy commerical.
Still blows the shit you like out of the water
Cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:23:29 No.124249745 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246306
this is literally white genocide

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:25:12 No.124249752 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246456
Pathetic loser.
Your shit will never be a black character. It will always be a blackwashed white character with no meaning

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:30:58 No.124249785 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247992
>your average Fox News viewer
Fox gets more viewers than any of the other news stations so you're only helping anon's point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:33:30 No.124249803 Report

Quoted By:

>>124247954
>You came from Africa
Your public high school education is a bit out of date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:35:00 No.124249812 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248852
>yes, you don't change existing characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:37:04 No.124249824 Report

Quoted By: >>124249842 >>124249851 >>124249918

I wish we could go back to the rhetoric of judging people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin, not this race war ideology that the two extreme minorities in american politics are pushing

>inb4 it's not a minority all people on the left/right push xyz123

no, it's a minority. A very vocal, retarded minority, but a minority nonetheless.

There's nothing wrong with making this particular incarnation of King Grayskull a black dude and there's nothing wrong with racebending basically any character in fiction barring specific examples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:38:48 No.124249833 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249386
This.
That fanatic is just out of his leftard mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:40:13 No.124249842 Report

Quoted By: >>124249872

>>124249824
>I wish we could go back to the rhetoric of judging people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin
>There's nothing wrong with making this particular incarnation of King Grayskull a black dude and there's nothing wrong with racebending
contradiction detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:40:15 No.124249843 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248445
What phony commie blogs have you been reading? Gas was the cheapest it's been in decades under Trump. Biden literally shut down new pipe line production, saying he's doing it for the environment, when it's really to make his railroad lobbyists happy so they don't lose billions of dollars in transit fees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:41:13 No.124249851 Report

Quoted By:

>>124249824
>There's nothing wrong with making this particular incarnation of King Grayskull a black dude and there's nothing wrong with racebending basically any character in fiction barring specific examples.
No. Fuck off racist.
Stay away from existing characters
Racebent/genderbent characters will never be valid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:43:46 No.124249869 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248393
>i don't need to make my own shit, i'll just take from the white man instead
Do you have an ounce of self-awareness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:44:07 No.124249872 Report

Quoted By: >>124249881

>>124249842
no contradiction

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:45:37 No.124249881 Report

Quoted By: >>124249978

>>124249872
If race doesn't matter we should not be racebending people. Just leave them as is. No point in changing them. Thats the contradiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:52:31 No.124249916 Report

Quoted By:

>>124248969
>hatred for blacks irrationally
Quite rational, actually.
>subservience to the status quo
Wasn't much top rebel against back then. Most people were happy. At least, happier than they are now if census reports are anything to go by.
>blind following of antiquated senses of culture that no longer applies in today’s world
Why should they have to change what worked for them?
>large population of ignorant people who are cruel to their minority neighbors
They just wanted to live separately from them. Going off of nowadays where even black people want to live separately from whitey, they were right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:52:43 No.124249918 Report

Quoted By: >>124249978

>>124249824
Fictional character aren't separable from their design/icnongraphy, retard.
Create your own shit or kneel and stfu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:56:15 No.124249936 Report

Quoted By: >>124249978

>>124248775
>Under represented no more
Blacks are 13% of the population. They are over-represented in media, just like in crime stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 08:56:18 No.124249937 Report

Quoted By:

The arguments in this thread are insane and naive. I am a cracker who grew up in Ghana since my dad was a crazy hippie. Had absolutely no representation other than my dad and I still was raised pretty well in that shit hole and do well now. I didn't need carton cartoons to understand not to kill and steal from my fellow man. What insanely naive statements from people who make nothing but excuses from failed people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:02:33 No.124249978 Report

Quoted By: >>124250005

>>124249881
"Race" doesn't matter and by virtue of it not mattering, it does not matter if a character is racebent. It's like getting buttflustered if they make a remake of Homeward Bound but the dogs and cat aren't the same breeds from those movies. It doesn't matter.

There's one real race, the human race. Representing all those under that vast umbrella is a perfectly valid thing to want to do. Kids don't need heroes to look like them to relate to them and THAT is a retarded rhetoric, but there's nothing wrong with the idea of showing a wider variety of the people we share this planet with in shows in and of itself.

Unless the subject matter is about real historical figures it should be basically free-reign unless the character's backstory is directly tied to race(Black Panther, for example, is an African man from an African Utopia. The furthest you can get is someone like Kasper Cole, a biracial man who briefly went by that before becoming White Tiger. Or if you go the route of making him albino). Nothing about King Grayskull requires him to be of any particular ethnicity.

>>124249918
the new King Grayskull has all of the most iconic parts of the old one, which is the outfit, the sword, and the roided physique. Everything else is something that can be up to interpretation.

>>124249936
>just like in crime stats
Arrests are not crime stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:07:48 No.124250005 Report

Quoted By: >>124250072

>>124249978
>"Race" doesn't matter and by virtue of it not mattering, it does not matter if a character is racebent
Someone gets racebent for reasons. The author said it was for representation. He literally is doing what you are saying he should not. They don't change race just because they feel like it there almost always is some representation angle behind it so yea contradiction to what you said.

I don't want War Machine or Blade to be white they should stay black. That was the artist's original interpretation and we should respect that.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:15:29 No.124250057 Report

Quoted By: >>124250063

Kevin Smith posted a bunch of damage control this morning.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:16:33 No.124250063 Report

Quoted By:

>>124250057

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:18:48 No.124250070 Report

Quoted By:

I'm not surprised, If you are still a normie who doesn't see the writing on the wall maybe take this chance to think about what's happening around you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:19:15 No.124250072 Report

Quoted By: >>124250098

>>124250005
>Someone gets racebent for reasons. The author said it was for representation. He literally is doing what you are saying he should not.
I never said he shouldn't I just said that the reasoning doesn't matter. You can racebend almost any character you want because we're all one people, but there's not a NEED for it. He and certainly a vocal group of people think that kids are craving representation but in all honestly they're not. That doesn't mean you shouldn't or can't do representation, just that there's not a need for it for that specific reasoning.

> They don't change race just because they feel like it there almost always is some representation angle behind it so yea contradiction to what you said.
Well of course in today's culture they're gonna play up that angle as much as possible because many people will eat that shit up, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter for what reasons they did it.

Point here is, no, kids aren't begging for heroes to have the same skin color. But all the same, there's no issue with representing more of the wide variety of shapes sizes colors we humans come in either. People will always have an agenda behind something no matter how simple or complex it is. But it doesn't invalidate the basics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:25:36 No.124250098 Report

Quoted By: >>124250178

>>124250072
>there's no issue with representing more of the wide variety of shapes sizes colors we humans come in eithe
Again the idea of representation goes against ignoring color. To be consistent you should be saying this is wrong and no one should be saying this since we shouldn't see race but you are saying representation is a good thing again which enforces the idea f racial awareness and not the content of character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:41:12 No.124250178 Report

Quoted By: >>124250189 >>124250202 >>124250231 >>124250275

>>124250098
>Again the idea of representation goes against ignoring color.
No, the rhetoric of "we need representation" does. Not the idea of representation. Representation just means to depict someone or a group of people.

>To be consistent you should be saying this is wrong and no one should be saying this since we shouldn't see race but you are saying representation is a good thing again which enforces the idea f racial awareness and not the content of character.
The reasoning is wrong, or at least is misinformed. But setting the justifications aside, it itself is not wrong. There are so many different shapes sizes and colors of the human race and portraying them in media is not a bad thing. As I said unless the backstory is intrinsically tied to their race like Black Panther, or they are a real historical figure of a specific ethnicity, it does not matter what coat of paint you give them.

You can dislike whatever fish food they're giving to the people who eat up "muh kids want heroes to look like them or #Xsowhite" garbage, but throwing a fit over the actual change itself is dumb in this specific case. There's nothing that makes it impossible for King Grayskull to be a man of dark skin
.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:43:45 No.124250189 Report

Quoted By: >>124250332

>>124250178
>There's nothing that makes it impossible for King Grayskull to be a man of dark skin
Except the fact that KG is white, making reverse blackface KG wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:47:07 No.124250202 Report

Quoted By: >>124250332

>>124250178
>there's no issue with representing more of the wide variety of shapes sizes colors we humans come in either
I am sorry but I am going to continue harping this you are expressing a positive take on racial representation here:

>there's no issue with representing more of the wide variety of shapes sizes colors we humans come in either

Which goes against the message you are trying to send. There IS something wrong with representation if w are trying to form a civilization that is blind to this. You need to stop using the word representation specifically if you keep using it you are shooting yourself in the foot here.

>There are so many different shapes sizes and colors of the human race and portraying them in media is not a bad thing

It's not a good thing either it's just a thing again going by your logic. I don't understand how I can be clearer here. If you really believe race doesn't matter then you can't say representation is a good thing because thats also saying race matters.

>As I said unless the backstory is intrinsically tied to their race like Black Panther,

and I said I don't want War Machine, Blade and Falcon to be white. I want to respect the creations of the original artist. You want to change their looks up, give them new armor clothes etc sure but they decided those characters were black so we should respect that. It gives these characters absolutely nothing to change their race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:48:40 No.124250212 Report

Quoted By:

>>124246593
He was only in the toys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:52:04 No.124250231 Report

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>>124250178
>There are so many different shapes sizes and colors of the human race and portraying them in media is not a bad thing.
You are wrong.
Only interesting stuff deserves to be on page/screen
Attractive people, fit people, masculine males/feminine women will always have massive precedence over the alternative

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:52:31 No.124250235 Report

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>>124249303
Out of africa was debunked a while ago anon. get with the times

There's a reason why white people don't look like africans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:56:24 No.124250275 Report

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>>124250178
>There are so many different shapes sizes and colors of the human race and portraying them in media
I don't watch tv to watch ugly or fat people on the screen. Actors generally are attractive people and it should stay as that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 09:59:41 No.124250303 Report

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>>124247803
Why do we need racial quotas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 10:02:53 No.124250332 Report

Quoted By: >>124250362 >>124250442 >>124251036

>>124250189
>Except the fact that KG is white,
KG's backstory does not rely on him having white skin. He's not specified to be descended from some specifically white skinned culture. You can make him any ethnicity you want and it works out fine.

>making reverse blackface KG wrong
There's no such thing as reverse blackface. And unless I'm mistaken, I don't see white facepaint anywhere in the leaked panel so it can't be whiteface.

>>124250202
I don't disagree that we need to move away from the word representation as it has been co-opted as of late for a specific cultural purpose, It's just simply there isn't really a better word that means the same thing. I mean, maybe saying something like "depicting"? IDK

I take the same issue with the use of the word that I think you're associating it with, but not the original definition.

>It's not a good thing either it's just a thing again going by your logic. I don't understand how I can be clearer here. If you really believe race doesn't matter then you can't say representation is a good thing because thats also saying race matters.
Race doesn't matter and is a social construct. But depicting people in various colors is not wrong in and of itself. I think you're mistaking me saying representation with me referring to it in the same context as it gets used in today even though I've tried to make it clear I'm not.

>I want to respect the creations of the original artist. You want to change their looks up, give them new armor clothes etc sure but they decided those characters were black so we should respect that. It gives these characters absolutely nothing to change their race.
I'd understand where you're coming from more if we weren't talking about King Grayskull, who was just rejected concept art that was turned into a surface level character who appeared in one episode of a show and 3 issues of comics. He's not some important well thought out thing with some artist's specific wishes and ideas about his race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 10:06:47 No.124250362 Report

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>>124250332
>He's not some important well thought out thing with some artist's specific wishes and ideas about his race.
How do you know? Did you talk to the artist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 10:18:08 No.124250442 Report

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>>124250332
Fictional character rely on their design.

Yes fucker. It's real thing reverse blackwasher

Stay away fro mexisting chars

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 11:05:01 No.124250783 Report

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>>124246779
>Khan Grayskull, who commanded the absolute loyalty of one million tiger-riding nomads.
that sounds awesome and it would absolutely be worth the race-swap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 11:31:59 No.124250979 Report

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>>124246372
Leave political fag and never return.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 11:35:09 No.124251008 Report

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>>124247975
You also admitted you never had anything to do with He-Man until current events brought you here. It must feel terrible entering a fandom you couldn't care two shits about because your politics demand it of you. Almost as if you have no fucking control over your own life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 11:38:50 No.124251036 Report

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>>124250332
>KG's backstory does not rely on him having white skin. He's not specified to be descended from some specifically white skinned culture. You can make him any ethnicity you want and it works out fine.

You don't care anything about King Grayskull so don't pretend to know how he should be portrayed. All of your excuses are just to justify your politics and you couldn't care less about the shady logic your trying to spew.

All to argue over a topic you couldn't care less about. Sucks to suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 11:52:17 No.124251146 Report

Quoted By: >>124251233

King Blackskull has a kickass design, and he wasn't part of the original show so it's not much of an issue for him being blackfaced compared to his 2010 iteration, different universes and all.
Sure, it hits the whole "we wuz kangs" meme... can't win'em all, I guess.

The problems are:
>>124246456 which reads as "we are shit writers unable to make appealing new characters so we have to recycle old ones" and >>124246689 which is almost funny in it basically meaning "SPECIFIC iteration of a Character has small but dedicated fan-base: let's change it for WOKE points thus alienating said fanbase!"

plus being yet another example of "Redhead Genocide" which is nowadays comical in how it's actually becoming an actual thing by almost certainly pure chance.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:02:55 No.124251229 Report

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>>124246967
>YAAAS QUEEN MY KANG GREYSKULL
Who eventually gets colonized and has his mantle taken by an Aryan white man.
>Muh 2002 Show
Which stated Adam absorbs Greyskull's power so that means a white guy gets to control the COLORED POWAH!
>MUH POL!
You're a bigger bitch ass nigga shilling for a raceswap that says the same Whites you hate get to take everything from your Kang. Get some fucking respect for yourself and stop taking scraps like your still on the plantation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:03:14 No.124251233 Report

Quoted By: >>124251274

>>124251146
>plus being yet another example of "Redhead Genocide" which is nowadays comical in how it's actually becoming an actual thing by almost certainly pure chance.
Oh its not by chance, just look at Kevin Smith's own statements. "Awfully white". And who are the palest people around? The only reason Teela is still a redhead is because they would lose any chance of being able to call this a sequel series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Jul 2021 12:07:51 No.124251274 Report

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>>124251233
yeah, but the meme is about REDHEADS specifically being blackfaced, not brunettes or blondes

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