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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 01:34:44 2021 No.124222424 View Reply Original Report

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Discuss the Crime Syndicate.
Should they be from Earth 2 or 3?
Should they be the same people from Earth 1 but evil, or different, similar characters?
Should their "villains" be good versions of Earth 1's villains?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 01:51:54 No.124222776 Report

Quoted By: >>124227644 >>124230888

>>124222424
Owlman's hat is hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 01:55:54 No.124222841 Report

Quoted By: >>124223043 >>124223190

>>124222424
>Should they be from Earth 2 or 3?
Doesn't really matter does it? Since all designation can be changed. Let's go with Earth 3 because it's just how it always has been and there's no real need to change it?
>Should they be the same people from Earth 1 but evil, or different, similar characters?
Evil for course. Isn't that the whole point of Crime Syndicate?
>Should their "villains" be good versions of Earth 1's villains?
Ditto with above question

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:00:49 No.124222931 Report

Quoted By: >>124223067 >>124223138 >>124223285 >>124224994

>>124222424
I think the current one we have now is damn close to perfect. They're not a literal mirror of Earth Prime like in Morrison's Earth 2 where one decision impacts the nature of the other Earth, and they're not as cartoonishly evil as the New 52 versions Johns wrote for Forever Evil. On the current Earth 3 as seen in the mini (which frankly deserves to be extended), each member is still a self serving dickhead, yet you feel almost bad for each of them. In this take each member is a bit more complex, grey in their motivations stemming from bad upbringings or circumstances that resulted in the monsters we know now.

I guess my only real criticism of the current take is how shit Johnny Quick and Atomica look. It's even more apparent considering everyone else on the team looks great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:06:29 No.124223043 Report

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>>124222841
Johnny Quick, Power Ring, Ultraman, and I think Owlman have no relation to Barry, Hal, Clark, or Bruce. They're completely independent characters not the same characters in an evil universe.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:07:35 No.124223067 Report

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>>124222931
FE Atomica was the best.

Is the new Johnny Quick supposed to be that Amazo-looking motherfucker behind Superwoman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:09:47 No.124223109 Report

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>>124223067
Unfortunately yes, he dresses like he's a Mad Max character

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:10:22 No.124223124 Report

Quoted By: >>124223172 >>124223749 >>124226667

>>124223043
Don't forget most versions of Superwoman are Lois Lane for some fucking reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:11:02 No.124223138 Report

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>>124222931
Should I read this series, the first issue got a bunch of 6 out of 10 reviews so I didn’t check it out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:13:06 No.124223172 Report

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>>124223067
>>124223109
I think that's just the tips of his lightning bolts, not his ears, and the design inspiration is more Natural Born Killers/Woody Harelson I believe (to compliment the criminal Bonnie and Clyde thing). Their origin will be explored in the new issue via backup story like the rest.
>>124223043
>>124223124
Ultraman is still Clark, Owlman is Thomas Wayne Jr instead of Bruce, and Superwoman is Donna Troy (arguably the better idea that should stay).
>>124223138
Don't treat reviews as gospel. It's only 4 issues so far, make your own opinion

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:13:56 No.124223190 Report

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>>124222841
>it doesn't matter

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:18:58 No.124223285 Report

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>>124222424
I agree with this anon >>124222931 for the most part, though I do have a soft spot for Morrison's Earth 2. When Batman helped that version of James Gordon, he ended up creating a police state. I like it when Earth 3 has evil be the default of everyone, with the Crime Syndicate being the one that keeps it in check, it makes them important to the grand scheme of things like the other versions of the Justice League. The JL may not like it, but that's the way the multiverse works and they learn their lesson at the end of that comic.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:21:11 No.124223328 Report

Quoted By: >>124223928 >>124225072 >>124225545

I kind of wonder if Bruce Timm considered having them be the Crime Syndicate but decided it wouldn't work out in the kind of story he was trying to tell.
The dimension warping thing looks exactly like the Crime Syndicate one

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:22:34 No.124223355 Report

Quoted By: >>124224929 >>124225227 >>124226279 >>124235541

>>124223285
I genuinely can't decide if I like it that evil always wins on Earth 3. I go back and forth on it all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:24:52 No.124223396 Report

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>>124222424
Villains outnumber the heroes in the core Earth, so my take would be that the Syndicate's Earth actually should be safer and better than the main one.
Gotham in particular would be Earth's most beautiful, upstanding city protected by an array of noble Arkham Society paladins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:45:37 No.124223749 Report

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>>124223124
SMWW pairing?

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:47:33 No.124223774 Report

Quoted By: >>124224608 >>124228279

I like the ideas /co/ has come up with over time (which lurking DC writers are more than welcome to steal I might add). Our Earth 3 is a mix between Crisis on Two Earths and Batman Brave and the Bold. Red Hood, Mime, Chamomile, all were fun writing about

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:54:13 No.124223890 Report

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>>124222424
I never really cared for the concept, but there are 2 versions of it I like.

1) The Justice Lords, where they initially seem like an alternate reality, but it turns out it’s a potential future. What I liked about it was less the actual story and more about the stories of Cadmus and Question reacting to it.
2) The version in Crisis In Two Earths, where it’s not necessarily “Clark but bad,” but instead a character that fit a similar role but in reverse. Also this Owlman is easily the best interpretation of the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 02:56:13 No.124223928 Report

Quoted By: >>124226183

>>124223328
It’s 100% the DCAU version of the Crime Syndicate. I think it works well, because by that point the DCAU was ramping up the idea of “Is a team of godlike heroes with no countermeasure a good idea?” Usually it’s a cliche, but they did it perfectly.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:23:25 No.124224608 Report

Quoted By: >>124224649 >>124224842

>>124223774
I'm assuming Mime is the E3 version of Joker? I only ask because I myself thought that would be a could rival for Owlman.
I can picture a comic cover with Mime looking all happy and smug holding a lighter above billions in cash that's implied to be at the Court of Owls headquarters with some subtitle like
>Some things never change!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:24:55 No.124224649 Report

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>>124224608
I feel like mimes in general are under used compared to clowns.
You just know he'd use a silencer, his version of Joker's "Bang!" gun

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:26:44 No.124224700 Report

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>>124222424

I really miss this version of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:30:38 No.124224842 Report

Quoted By: >>124224885

>>124224608
No Mime is Harley.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:31:50 No.124224885 Report

Quoted By: >>124224961

>>124224842
I like that less

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:33:14 No.124224929 Report

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>>124223355
I think it makes sense, good can't be the default everywhere in the multiverse. So having one part of it dedicated to evil allows the rest of the multiverse to know what they're fighting for. Sort of like learning what right choices to make because you know what all the wrong choices are.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:34:19 No.124224961 Report

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>>124224885
We already have a "Joker", it's Red Hood/Jester. We had backstories for both of them and everything, check the archive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:35:47 No.124224994 Report

Quoted By: >>124235705

>>124222931
New Crime Syndicate feels more like Loeb’s Ultimates desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:38:43 No.124225072 Report

Quoted By: >>124225252

>>124223328

I thought the Justice Lords made sense. If anything the JLA should be this proactive,

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:44:12 No.124225227 Report

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>>124223355
I look at it this way:

It makes sense that on Antimatter Earth evil always wins, because it's supposed to be the Antimatter version of the main DC Earth

But for Earth 3 it should just go either way

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:45:23 No.124225252 Report

Quoted By: >>124225586

>>124225072
Move to China

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 03:59:23 No.124225545 Report

Quoted By: >>124225664

>>124223328
I always heard it he was going to do CS but then got the idea for the lords instead. Think it works out better as the lords lean closer to an injustice type story of one bad day while CS is just evil ingrained in the universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:02:14 No.124225586 Report

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>>124225252
Why move to China when China is coming to me already

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:06:19 No.124225664 Report

Quoted By: >>124225730

>>124225545
It would be kind of cool if we had an early concept shot or something where they actually were the Crime Syndicate like the Justice Society one

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:09:52 No.124225727 Report

Quoted By: >>124226203 >>124232887

I don't care much for the Crime Syndicate, the heroic version of villains are way cooler

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:09:57 No.124225730 Report

Quoted By: >>124225789

>>124225664
The JSA was due to higher ups suddenly opposing the idea, while the Justice Lords were more a matter of them starting with a concept and it evolving in a different direction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:13:24 No.124225789 Report

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>>124225730
I think it was Levitz who opposed it, and in retrospect he was in the right to do so because they were revitalizing the JSA again and the episode would keep getting memed as what people think the JSA are like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:29:55 No.124226077 Report

Quoted By: >>124229750

>>124222424
>Should they be from Earth 2 or 3?
Earth 3, earth 2 should be themed around golden age and silver age hi-jinks.
>Should they be the same people from Earth 1 but evil, or different, similar characters?
They should be like their pre-crisis iteration where they're in many ways closer to their earth-2 counterparts while also having a mysterious background.
>Should their "villains" be good versions of Earth 1's villains?
Yes, though the morals but reversed shit is retarded and always have been. They're the heroes of that earth and most of the time they beat the Crime Syndicate (enties like Fate, Phantom Stranger and Specter should tip the scales).

Also I want to add that the Crime Syndicate shouldn't be as evil as they're depicted as in the modern versions. Like the relationships between the heroes and villains should for the most part be simalar. The fact that evil flash is a homicidal maniac is so fucking retarded, like flash should just be a drunk hooligan who at worst tries to rob a bank, not "I love killing without a second thought" tier shit. Like turn down the fucking murder guys, like come on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:34:47 No.124226183 Report

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>>124223928
Yeah something something patriot act.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:35:49 No.124226203 Report

Quoted By: >>124226237 >>124234286

>>124225727
Take your pick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:37:56 No.124226237 Report

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>>124226203
I pick them all because I like team books
I want an ongoing of these guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:40:34 No.124226279 Report

Quoted By: >>124226576 >>124226951

>>124223355
The idea that evil always wins on Earth 3 baffles me honestly, multiversal entities like Specter and Fate still exist and would just kill the Crime Syndicate if they possed to much of a threat to humanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:41:37 No.124226293 Report

Quoted By: >>124229750

>>124222424
>Should they be from Earth 2 or 3?

Earth 3. People sometimes miss that in JLA Earth 2, the joke was that "Earth 2" was the name Antimatter Alexander Luthor gave to the main DCU. The E2/E3 twist worked in the CW, but after CW COIE they made E2 the Stargirl/Golden Age Earth so I'm assuming they'll make the new E3 the CSA Earth.

>Should they be the same people from Earth 1 but evil, or different, similar characters?

They never outright said who the original CSA was Pre-COIE, then had similar or different identities in subsequent ones. A mix is fine.

>Should their "villains" be good versions of Earth 1's villains?

Sure, if you're continuing the theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 04:59:31 No.124226576 Report

Quoted By: >>124226648

>>124226279
Does each universe not have its own specter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 05:04:33 No.124226648 Report

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>>124226576
specter is a multiversal being, he can appear when ever her wants where ever he wants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 05:05:55 No.124226667 Report

Quoted By: >>124226796

>>124223124
Superwoman being Lois Lane is actually a callback to Golden Age WW, where Diana Prince was an actual person that Diana assumed the identity of after the original abandoned her life to get married. In this case, Superwoman murdered Lois Lane and assumed her identity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 05:13:26 No.124226796 Report

Quoted By: >>124226889 >>124227226

>>124226667
That's still fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 05:19:20 No.124226889 Report

Quoted By: >>124227143 >>124227226

>>124226796
No it isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 05:23:38 No.124226951 Report

Quoted By: >>124227153

>>124226279
its just part of the presence's will

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 05:38:25 No.124227143 Report

Quoted By: >>124229750

>>124226889
Not him but the Donna Troy thing is better

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 05:38:57 No.124227153 Report

Quoted By: >>124227907

>>124226951
Like that might work for why specter doesn't just nuke them but still characters like fate and stranger won't be so merciful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 05:43:48 No.124227226 Report

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>>124226796
>>124226889
Whether or not you think it's stupid is irrelevant, it's just that it has a reason for being that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 06:11:54 No.124227644 Report

Quoted By: >>124236221

>>124222776
it can hypnotize people

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 06:33:48 No.124227907 Report

Quoted By: >>124228012

>>124227153
Fate and stranger would still have mystic binds that prevent them from killing everyone and everything. It would be similar to why Trigon doesn't just steam roll the earth like he is depicted doing in every elseworld he is in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 06:43:01 No.124228012 Report

Quoted By: >>124228105

>>124227907
Yeah but they role in the universe is to maintain order and fight bad guys, they'd probably deal with Earth-3 Superwoman at some point because of her magical heratige and stomp her into the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 06:50:01 No.124228105 Report

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>>124228012
You're flipping netural-good into netural-evil. They aren't going to be assed most of the time, job like they always do, or be contested by their flip flopped counterpart. And even working towards an order may just turn out like the 90s books where evil had to win no matter what and everyone was just pawns in their earth.

Going to your original post, you can't have good without evil. There has to be a balance otherwise goodness loses purpose and vice-versa. Yin-yang, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 07:03:59 No.124228279 Report

Quoted By: >>124233485

>>124223774
What would Earth 3 parasite be? I was thinking he can drain power and give it to people, basically being this super friendly monster looking thing thats known for empowering allies literally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 09:24:41 No.124229750 Report

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>>124227143
Nah

>>124226077
It does matter that it is Earth 3 because even if you don't go with Morrison's antimatter universe (which only happened because of COIE and not having a multiverse), the SA version was always still E3, because E2 was where the married version of Clark and Lois, and Jay and Alan, and all the rest f the JSA, etc., all existed.

>>124226293
The Earth 2 thing in the DCW was just stupid lazy writing on the Flash staff. In reality, the shitty universe that requires a particle accelerator for metas versus the actual canon reason in the DCU is a stupid basis for saying that it is the prime earth.

SADLY there will be stupid casuals who accept that because they are idiots who can't spend 20 second on a browser search.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 11:46:36 No.124230825 Report

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>>124222424
More importantly, where's the Anti-Matter Earth? Is it the common negative where if all 52 Earths have multiple versions, the Anti-Matter is alone? Where is it on Grant's map?

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 11:53:57 No.124230888 Report

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>>124222776
Owlman's pretty funny in general. Something about his face and physique there make him look less like a supervillain and more like just some guy dressing up as one

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 12:37:12 No.124231319 Report

Quoted By: >>124231451

>>124222424
>Should they be the same people from Earth 1 but evil, or different, similar characters?
>Should their "villains" be good versions of Earth 1's villains?
I like the idea of inverted villain analogues coupled with inverted hero analogues. I think it allows for a bit more creative freedom than just a one-for-one inversion.
I hope they keep President Slade Wilson as a fixture. An inverted Deathstroke would probably be more like a Nick Fury or Captain America type figure so it makes sense that he is the only one willing to take on the Crime Syndicate publicly. Even if he can't do much to stop them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 12:50:40 No.124231451 Report

Quoted By: >>124231514

>>124231319
Current president in the mini is Ollie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 12:57:08 No.124231514 Report

Quoted By: >>124231774

>>124231451
Is he a thinly veiled Trump joke?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 13:23:47 No.124231774 Report

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>>124231514
nah he's more of just a cameo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 14:40:43 No.124232759 Report

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>>124222424
I miss new52 crime syndicate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 14:47:42 No.124232887 Report

Quoted By: >>124234202

>>124222424
>>124225727

yeah i want to see more comics and cartoons with the justice underground. or whatever they call themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 14:53:26 No.124233008 Report

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>>124222424
So why was Owlman wearing a Owl hat instead of a Owl cowl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 15:05:21 No.124233238 Report

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Dashposting is just as good as Zoomposting

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 15:14:15 No.124233410 Report

Quoted By: >>124233951

What are your thoughts on the Teen Tyrants?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 15:18:30 No.124233485 Report

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>>124228279
I guess he's sort of like a symbiote then? Like Rudy wasn't transformed into a starving monster, but instead is bonded with goo (be it man made or alien). He can copy powers by touch but doesn't harm the person. In fact, maybe he can juice up his comrades for a short time by sacrificing his own strength

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 15:45:42 No.124233951 Report

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>>124233410
Someone made an alternate "Victim Raven" for the Teen Tyrants, who is different from the official Red Raven.
There are a few others, like Narc Terra, Barbarian Starfire, Using Talon to instead of Red Robin along with a modified version of Grid for Cyborg

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 15:59:16 No.124234202 Report

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>>124232887
In the new mini they're the Legion of Justice, it's fitting

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Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 16:03:14 No.124234286 Report

Quoted By: >>124234460

>>124226203
That Cheetah though, they killed it with that outfit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 16:11:59 No.124234460 Report

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>>124234286
>Yo, what if Black Adam was Cheetah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 16:23:55 No.124234634 Report

Quoted By: >>124236230

The funniest part about Earth 3 is that the Greek Gods are still completely same but with different temperament since they're cool on some days and nuclear assholes on others

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 16:36:23 No.124234847 Report

Quoted By: >>124236451

Abnormo is a failed Ultraman clone that tries to be a Villain by mildly inconveniencing people, even saving their lives just so he can slightly bother them more. Sometimes he plays the long game like helping to replenish aquatic ecosystems that were overfished so more people get bad breath from eating fish

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Ivan Hunger Mon 05 Jul 2021 17:11:06 No.124235541 Report

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>Should they be the same people from Earth 1 but evil, or different, similar characters?

I liked the approach where they had different origin stories which resulted in the same power sets. It was more inspired. It's a shame to see the current mini-series backing away from that to give them origins that are much closer to those of the Justice League.

>>124223355
I prefer good being able to win on Earth 3. It sends a more hopeful message. If good versions of characters who are normally evil can defeat their enemies on Earth 3, then that means the reason why their counterparts always lose is because they are evil and not because their enemies are just better.

That's how it was pre-crisis. When the Supermen and Lex Luthors of Earth 1, Earth 2, and Earth 3 all came together, the two Supermen defeated their Lex Luthors, but Ultraman did not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 17:17:36 No.124235705 Report

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>>124224994
Yeah I don't see the big appeal myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 17:38:17 No.124236221 Report

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>>124227644
I wish I had saved the page where Owlman hypnotized Hal to make the bars he created with gaps wide enough for Owlman to just walk slide through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 17:38:30 No.124236230 Report

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>>124234634
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 17:48:47 No.124236451 Report

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>>124234847
Yeah I remember when we came up with him. Someone should probably draw him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 17:59:35 No.124236703 Report

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One of my favorite parts of Forever Evil was the personality traits Johns added on. Owlman being obsessed with order in a way where he had to control everything. Power Ring being a cowardly, timid shit. Deathstorm having no regard for life at all. That was good shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Jul 2021 18:26:53 No.124237300 Report

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>>124222424
He's what my versions would look like if I had the chance.
Ultraman – Head Mob boss of Metropolis, desires to make the city safer and all around better place... for a price.
Owl Man – The worlds’ smartest Criminal Mastermind whose boredom leads him to stage the greatest capers in earth’s history.
Super Woman- The worlds most infamous International Thief, she made a name for herself after stealing priceless artifacts that are said to contain magical powers.
Johny Quick – Central Cities resident trouble maker, not really evil per say just very annoying. Worst thing he ever did was rob a bank, but that was to get money to save an orphan or some shit.
Power Ring (John Stewart) – Intergalactic smuggler, he helps bring illegal space tech to earth and sells them. Although being a magic based hero he prefers space for unknown reasons.

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