>>124100677>Even modern Superman fightsThat's because they brought back the "Superman tanks the majority of his power" back around OWAW. Him putting forth an effort results in stuff like the Kal-L fight where they're knocking each other through time.
He's not going to punt Metallo, for instance, or a Toyman mech through the planet.
>Doomsday pushed him beyond any previous limitConsidering at the time his limit began and ended with Byrne's Man of Steel that's not saying much at all. You have to remember the time it was written. Pre-Crisis was well and truly non-canonical at the point, totally wiped from reality. This was before Animal Man and Hypertime and Convergence.
>>124100720I'm willing to accept them saying Champa and Beerus can nuke their respective universes as statements of fact, though with the caveat that doing so destroys them in the crossfire. So universe level with caveats.
>>124100802It won't be, and watching DBS multiverse wankers try and dance around the Moro-in-the-room is going to be beautiful.
>>124101180That she says this the same way someone would say "Wow! I feel so great I could wrestle a bear!" should tell you something.
Even if you were smooth-brained enough to take what she says at complete face value, shouldn't she by Struntmath be at the level where saying you can nuke a universe means fuck-all? Shouldn't she be like, 5 million universes going by Struntmath? Why would she brag about being able to do something 1/5 millionth her power level and the power level of everyone around her?