>>119927081Pretty much, yeah. It’s why I never take non-DB “we only take them at their strongest, and fighting solely to kill” discussions about who’d win involving them too seriously. A legitimate answer to how any DB
>>119927123>>119927124Alright how about Hecate’s illusions working on all of the Justice League, including Superman, on-page in Justice League Dark? Or that one cosmic giant sapping his powers during his rebirth adventure with Justice Incarnate? Or the time Libra sapped half the JL’s powersl, again including Superman, and was only defeated because the energy overload propelled him into Apokolips where he got tortured by Darkseid?
Look I’m completely happy to concede I misremembered the Dr. Manhattan thing. I just think y’all are severely underestimating the ways a creative reality warper could fuck up Superman-
-but uh.
As I type those words, I am again reminded that the Beyonders 1. compeletely overlooked time travel as a threat to them, 2. stood around like goobers letting some Builder pets bamboozle one into a tree and 3. Monica of all people got some cheap shots on Beyond Corp.
So I’m not saying it’s IMPOSSIBLE for Superman to defeat the Beyonders because goddamn the Beyonders can be retarded, I’m just saying it relies heavily on the Beyonders approaching the fight way more stupidly than I assume you’re envisioning Superman taking it
