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Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 19:46:40 2020 No.115938585 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>115938680 >>115938693 >>115938738 >>115938928 >>115939040 >>115939142 >>115939455 >>115939755 >>115941770 >>115942189 >>115942436 >>115944340 >>115948440 >>115949511

This shit is so stupid. The stunt double for Black Panther in Civil War is black. He's a liar.

https://m.hindustantimes.com/hollywood/future-captain-america-actor-anthony-mackie-slams-marvel-s-racist-hiring-practices/story-AiBAcXjyX1nFcjpAC9uYDN_amp.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:50:44 No.115938670 Report

He's actually giving the reasonable response.
>“But then when you do Black Panther, you have a Black director, Black producer, you have a Black costume designer, you have a Black stunt choreographer. And I'm like, that's more racist than anything else. Because if you only can hire the Black people for the Black movie, are you saying they're not good enough when you have a mostly white cast?”
>Mackie then concluded by declaring, "Hire the best person for the job. Even if it means we're going to get the best two women, we're going to get the best two men."
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/anthony-mackie-black-panther-174920856.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:51:17 No.115938680 Report

Quoted By: >>115938686 >>115938695 >>115943265 >>115948500 >>115948748

>>115938585
All the characters are the races they were in the comics. What the fuck is he talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:51:48 No.115938686 Report

Quoted By: >>115938700

>>115938680
That's the point. We need a black stunt double for a white character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:51:59 No.115938693 Report

Quoted By: >>115938848 >>115939371

>>115938585
>>115938670
ANTHONY NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:52:14 No.115938695 Report

Quoted By: >>115938716 >>115938750 >>115948436

>>115938680
He literally said higher the best person for the job. OP and the articles are rephrasing it for clickbait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:52:33 No.115938700 Report

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>>115938686
I know you're being sarcastic, but I still hate your response.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:53:18 No.115938713 Report

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>>115938670
Based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:53:34 No.115938716 Report

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>>115938695
Exactly why I didn't click and read it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:54:39 No.115938726 Report

Quoted By: >>115946531

Based Mackie telling it like it is.
Self aggrandizing celebs keep doing this virtue signal shit that makes everything worse for everyone involved.
Some of them are being attention whores, some are trying to cover their asses to make sure they're not cancelled by the outrage mob, some are actually using this as a way to get out of shitty gigs.
Why not try to facilitate and bring up more actors of all types for different roles as a whole instead of trying to literally segregate the industry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:54:52 No.115938729 Report

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>>115938670
But then it doesn't matter if they're white or black, does it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:55:15 No.115938738 Report

Quoted By: >>115938812

>>115938585
>>115938670
Nice clickbait. But he's right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 19:55:54 No.115938750 Report

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>>115938695
He also said everyone involved in all seven movies he's been in are white and thats objectively false

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:00:39 No.115938812 Report

Quoted By: >>115938839

>>115938738
>But he's right
Better question is how will Disney cancel him? Mind you valentine dreamer from WWE is both black and gay yet still got cancelled by twitter on LGBT month/BLM rioting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:02:44 No.115938839 Report

Quoted By: >>115939280 >>115942011

>>115938812
>trying to cancel a black man when blacks are currently invincible

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:03:17 No.115938848 Report

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>>115938693
and just like that, CAaTWS was "postponed"

i mean, what are they gonna do, fire him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:05:57 No.115938881 Report

Quoted By: >>115950423

>>115938670
Damn, that's pretty based.
Now I kind of do want to see him as Captain Falcon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:08:36 No.115938920 Report

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>115938585
>hindustantimes
>m.
I'll reply in this shit thread but i ain't giving any (Yous) to the faggot OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:09:08 No.115938928 Report

Quoted By: >>115939050 >>115943038 >>115943269

>>115938585
Yeah, the Black Panther's director refusing to hire white people was pretty racist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:16:25 No.115939040 Report

Quoted By: >>115939330 >>115945876

>>115938585
>>115938670
But that's exactly what the black and white people of twitter wants. Only people of a specific race can create and play something of that specific race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:16:26 No.115939043 Report

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>>115938670
Rip

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:17:07 No.115939050 Report

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>>115938928
It is impossible to be racist against whites and east asians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:22:56 No.115939142 Report

Quoted By: >>115939477 >>115945868

>>115938585
Anthony Mackie has always been thoughtful and real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj8JK6c5x3M

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:30:23 No.115939280 Report

Quoted By: >>115939406

>>115938839
If a black gay guy from wwe can get cancelled on pride month. Blacks are no longer safe from cancel culture

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:32:56 No.115939330 Report

Quoted By: >>115939428

>>115939040
This. You can't fucking win with these people. It's the same shit as WB thinking only a female director can direct Wonder Woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:33:17 No.115939339 Report

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>>115938670

Well, thank you Mr. Mackie. At least someone had the guts to say it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:35:06 No.115939371 Report

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>>115938693
ANTHONY YES

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:37:03 No.115939406 Report

Quoted By: >>115940268 >>115942011

>>115939280
A gay black WWE wrestler got canceled? Did he touch HHH or Vince without consent or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:37:19 No.115939412 Report

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>>115938670
King

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:38:37 No.115939427 Report

Quoted By: >>115945868

I always loved Anthony Mackie and him being truthful like this is even better.

https://youtu.be/oj8JK6c5x3M

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:38:38 No.115939428 Report

Quoted By: >>115941884 >>115942656 >>115948888

>>115939330

I think there are some instances where hiring a female director is a better choice. If the topic of the film relates specifically to a woman-centric topic, or if the film deals with delicate or intimate situations where an actress might feel more comfortable taking direction from a female director.

Wonder Woman is not one of those instances. But, I heard she did a good job anyway, so, whatever...

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:39:09 No.115939436 Report

Quoted By: >>115940903

>>115938670

Fuck OP. This man is based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:39:17 No.115939441 Report

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>>115938670
I never knew Dollar Store Will Smith could be this based.

He'll be missed. His career will surely take a hit after that statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:40:12 No.115939455 Report

Quoted By: >>115939496 >>115943889 >>115945890 >>115949649

>>115938585
It was Ryan Coogler's idea, and if you watch interviews with him you can tell he's one of those "black power" types

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:41:22 No.115939477 Report

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>>115939142

I like this guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:42:23 No.115939493 Report

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>>115938670
Shit nigga, didn't expect to hear some BASED

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:42:42 No.115939496 Report

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>>115939455
In all honesty Mackie probably doesn't really remember that fact. Most anons in this thread probably know more trivial facts about each MCU film's production than most members of the MCU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 20:55:16 No.115939681 Report

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>>115938670
OUCH! I guess he's out of job then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 21:00:09 No.115939755 Report

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>>115938585
Who cares. This is the crowd Disney and Marvel wanted to cater to, let them eat their own

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 21:04:56 No.115939830 Report

Quoted By: >>115941754

>>115938670
Anthony Mackie is based as fuck. He also doesn't like the incel outrage gater types that propagate this board and YouTube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 21:15:29 No.115940015 Report

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>>115938670
I liked the guy already as a person. This is fucking based as all hell. I will support this nigga way more now. Even though he's not that great of an actor... especially terrible in Altered Carbon .

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 21:29:05 No.115940268 Report

Quoted By: >>115941970

>>115939406
>Did he touch HHH or Vince without consent or something?
His Dick pics got leaked. Twitter got outrage because younger fans saw it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 21:50:55 No.115940670 Report

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>>115938670
wtf based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 22:05:27 No.115940903 Report

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>>115939436
Fuck you, too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 22:46:43 No.115941615 Report

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bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 22:49:25 No.115941658 Report

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>>115938670
This man is my Cap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 22:55:03 No.115941754 Report

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>>115939830
He definitely hates rude entitled fangirls, that's for sure.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziHR77ZGAGg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 22:55:54 No.115941770 Report

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>>115938585
What? But Mackie is always reasonable and based, why would he jump on the sjw bandwa-
>>115938670
I see that he continues to be reasonable and based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:02:06 No.115941884 Report

Quoted By: >>115942290

>>115939428
The only fucking time you'd should hire a woman director is if the film is about a fucking cunt having her fucking period. And there should never be a film about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:02:31 No.115941890 Report

Quoted By: >>115942566

>>115938670
People are gonna call him an "Uncle Tom and a "Coon". He's right though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:06:15 No.115941970 Report

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>>115940268
>Twitter
This shit is just tumblr 2.0.
I'm so fucking glad this place was too much for those cunts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:08:20 No.115942011 Report

Quoted By: >>115942602

>>115939406
>>115938839
You need to realize that the thing that matters is the ideology, anyone that goes against it no matter who they are or what they are they will get eliminated. Black people go against the ideology? They are Uncle Toms and house niggers. Gays go against the ideology? they are self hating homos or closeted homphobic fags. Women go against the ideology? Cocksluts and Radefems You need to realize that it's fine when they are racists and sexist because it's against their ideology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:18:44 No.115942177 Report

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>>115938670
Black Panther sucks so the black staff apparently isn't good enough for the white peepo MCU films.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:19:13 No.115942189 Report

Quoted By: >>115942261 >>115942430 >>115942508 >>115942964

>>115938585
Falcon is right, Marvel Studios, unlike the TV shows, have always had a very hypocritical tokenism to them.

Feige's driving the franchise into the ground

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:21:34 No.115942232 Report

Quoted By: >>115946678

>>115938670
Lmao RIP. Hollywood is no place to be a conservative shoeshine black.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:23:05 No.115942260 Report

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>>115938670
That's reasonable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:23:06 No.115942261 Report

Quoted By: >>115942338 >>115942430 >>115942964

>>115942189
and they hired an Asian action director for Shang Chi who has no experience in kung fu action.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:25:44 No.115942290 Report

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>>115941884
Quiet, honey, the adults are talking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:28:11 No.115942338 Report

Quoted By: >>115942430

>>115942261
Yup. Marvel Studio's racism is apparent as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:33:57 No.115942430 Report

Quoted By: >>115942456

>>115942338
>>115942261
>>115942189
The sad thing is if they didn't do that Twitter would criticize them for hiring someone that knows nothing about that culture/ethnicity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:34:39 No.115942436 Report

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>>115938585
Doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:35:26 No.115942456 Report

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>>115942430
Okay but finding an Asian director who has directed kung fu scenes isn't hard since there's a ton of them in China and Taiwan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:38:01 No.115942508 Report

Quoted By: >>115942840

>>115942189
>Feige's driving the franchise into the ground
That's an astonishing thing to say about the man who drove it up to top of the pop culture heights, but what do I know. rabble rabble rabble

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:41:36 No.115942566 Report

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>>115941890

why?

his argument doesnt denigrate black talent in the slightest. but supports that black talent is often overlooked until it isnt.then its magically a problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:42:42 No.115942587 Report

Quoted By: >>115949052

>>115938670
He's going to get canceled for that comment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:43:45 No.115942602 Report

Quoted By: >>115942828 >>115942909

>>115942011
>Black people go against the ideology? They are Uncle Toms and house niggers

what do you call whites that go against the ideology?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:46:14 No.115942656 Report

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>>115939428
That's stupid man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:55:04 No.115942828 Report

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>>115942602

Nazis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:55:38 No.115942840 Report

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>>115942508
He's some deranged DC tranny obsessed with Marvel, go to any twitter post about Marvel and you'll find a few

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:57:59 No.115942886 Report

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>>115938670
Between this and hating Man of Steel he's entirely too good for us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:59:01 No.115942909 Report

Quoted By: >>115943439

>>115942602
White.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 23:59:12 No.115942914 Report

Quoted By: >>115943370

>>115938670
>people thinking this is his cancel moment
The man went to comicon and straight up went on a rant about how Hollywood only makes movies movies for 16 year olds and China. He has based armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:01:14 No.115942964 Report

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>>115942189
>>115942261
This has been Marvel's MO since phase one.

>Thor speaks in ye olde Shakespearean English? Get Kenneth Brannagh. He did a bunch of Shakespeare movies
> Captain America is a pulp hero that fights nazis? Get Joe Johnston. He did the Rocketeer. Same thing.
Black Panther getting a black director or Ms Marvel getting a female director are just more blatant attempts at pigeonholing than most, but the tendency has been there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:04:47 No.115943038 Report

Quoted By: >>115943236 >>115950159

>>115938928
Racism comes from privilege, and privilege is inherited. Therefore racism is inherited. African Americans are incapable of being racist anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:14:09 No.115943236 Report

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>>115943038
I know you're mocking the twitter and tumblr fags who unironically believe racism = racism + power
But still, fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:15:52 No.115943265 Report

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>>115938680
That they are still hiring white people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:16:00 No.115943269 Report

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>>115938928
He was only following the rules set forth by the white producers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:16:36 No.115943277 Report

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>>115938670

>"Hire the best person for the job.”

BASED as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:20:48 No.115943370 Report

Quoted By: >>115945868

>>115942914
The sad part is people were laughing when he was dead serious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj8JK6c5x3M

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:24:04 No.115943439 Report

Quoted By: >>115943711

>>115942909
really? theres no negative connotation for white people that speak against the white majority?

because theres a shit ton of terms for white women who sleep with black men alone, so i know thats not where it ends

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:31:20 No.115943553 Report

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>>115938670
The problem here is how many black directors decide to make their movie into a "black production." But otherwise, he's completely right about this bullshit stunt hiring. Same with women needing to be everything behind the scenes in female-led flicks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:40:06 No.115943711 Report

Quoted By: >>115944421

>>115943439
This might blow your mind but white people can be treated as a monolith just like every other race. The people that are so preoccupied with dividing white people into little subsections and categories are predominately white. No one else benefits from maintaining the exclusivity of the the identity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:45:55 No.115943829 Report

Quoted By: >>115948343

>>115938670
He votes for equality instead of equity.

That means he's fucking CANCELLED.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:48:07 No.115943889 Report

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>>115939455
Amusingly his "African field research" for Black Panther consisted of he and his wife taking a holiday to fucking Cape Town.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 00:51:44 No.115943973 Report

Quoted By: >>115944334

He seems like a cool dude, he got kicked out of a Michael's Fabric store for signing posters putting them back on the shelf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 01:08:10 No.115944334 Report

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>>115943973

At this point, I would prefer this guy to be Captain America than Chris Evans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 01:08:34 No.115944340 Report

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>>115938585
test

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 01:12:08 No.115944421 Report

Quoted By: >>115949329

>>115943711

im well aware, which is why im suspicious when people act like white people are individualists like that dont care about those that go against the grain so to speak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 02:39:36 No.115945868 Report

Quoted By:

>>115939142
>>115939427
>>115943370
>People see a movie's got 10/10 on Rotten Tomatoes and think; "Oh this movie must be good I should go see it." even through they know the movie's terrible.
This but with video games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 02:39:50 No.115945876 Report

Quoted By: >>115946925 >>115949545

>>115939040
I don’t believe an outsider of a culture can fully create something more authentic than someone whos been immersed in the culture their whole lives.

Let’s be real, Black Panther resonated so well with black audiences because black voices were behind it. If there were any other kind of voices, we would have something like Princess and the Frog which was as whitewashed as it possibly could get.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 02:40:51 No.115945890 Report

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>>115939455
>Other groups practice in-group preferences
>This is ok

>Blacks do it
>”R-RACISM!”

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 03:15:29 No.115946531 Report

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>>115938726
Literally all they are asking for. Equality

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 03:21:06 No.115946618 Report

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>>115938670
Actually.... that's pretty based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 03:24:29 No.115946678 Report

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>>115942232
I actually don’t give a shit about those progressive vs. conservative craps. I only care is it making sense or not

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 03:29:29 No.115946790 Report

Quoted By: >>115950361 >>115954312

>>115938670
>"Hollywood these days makes movies for two types of audiences: 16 year olds, and China"
Anthony's criminally wasted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 03:33:06 No.115946855 Report

Quoted By:

Your moment of cringe

https://youtu.be/rnscVOav2Ng

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 03:36:02 No.115946925 Report

Quoted By: >>115948347

>>115945876
Well. You might be right, but being too extremist in that idea just won't allow you create fiction.
Let's be honest. Black Panther is fictional. Wakanda doesn't exist and it's not based in an actual real culture. It could be created by anyone. The comic was just a stunt to catch Black American readers. And it was a product of its time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 03:40:08 No.115947009 Report

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>>115938670
Finally someone has the voice of reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:27:16 No.115948244 Report

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>>115938670
The composer is white

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:29:39 No.115948343 Report

Quoted By: >>115948585 >>115949596

>>115943829
>He votes for fairness instead of other fairness

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:29:46 No.115948347 Report

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>>115946925
Wakanda is fictional wish fulfillment yes.
But at the same time, if you're a part of a culture, you'll have a better idea of what their wishes are to be fulfilled in fantasy, right?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:30:32 No.115948374 Report

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>>115938670
Absolutely based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:32:23 No.115948436 Report

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>>115938695
>the articles are rephrasing it for clickbait
>muh fake news
you're destroying democracy, incel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:32:30 No.115948440 Report

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>>115938585

Is there another source? It feels like extremely weird to site the Hindustan times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:34:09 No.115948500 Report

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>>115938680
>All the characters are the races they were in the comics.
In Black Panther or the entire MCU? There's been a few race changes here and there

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:36:18 No.115948585 Report

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>>115948343
Equity is fake fairness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:39:46 No.115948692 Report

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>>115938670
That's an absolutely reasonable position and a valid complaint that Hollywood basically only hires black when they can make it into a PR stunt for select projects. If the best person for a job on a white-lead movie is black, hire them, and vice versa.
All in all, hopefully this doesn't affect his future with Marvel and I hope Falcon and The Winter Soldier turns out well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:41:38 No.115948748 Report

Quoted By: >>115949343

>>115938680
It seems like he's talking about the hiring practices behind-the-scenes. So Marvel choosing to hire black production teams only for the black-lead movie seems like it exposes the racism because they don't seem as willing to hire them for a white-lead movie, or vice versa.
In other words, they're engaging in a weird form of segregation in who they hire for a project based on the lead actor/actress' race

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:43:14 No.115948802 Report

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>>115938670
faith in humanity restored. there should be more people like him!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:46:14 No.115948888 Report

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>>115939428
t. Cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 04:52:05 No.115949052 Report

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>>115942587
Cancel culture is 90% white feminists and their bitch boys. They wont go anywhere near him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:01:34 No.115949329 Report

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>>115944421
The only way to really for whites to go against the grain is to be poor.
Whites, liberal and conservative both, just ignore poor whites. Problem solved.
t. Trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:02:33 No.115949342 Report

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>>115938670
Oh captain my captain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:02:34 No.115949343 Report

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>>115948748
isn't this what libs want?
just look at all those harvard people who want 'black only dorms' so they don't get microtriggerd by whites asking them to put on deodorant

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:11:07 No.115949511 Report

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>>115938585
What? He is saying that just because its a black character movie doesnt mean you need a black director or black costume designer. Just hire the best people available.

This is in fact not only reasonable but almost antagonistic to all the new woke segregationists.

I expect Disney to discipline him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:13:35 No.115949545 Report

Quoted By: >>115950832

>>115945876
Oh fuck off, black Americans have little to nothing to do with Africa anymore. Hell, a shit ton of Africans actually hate african Americans.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:15:53 No.115949596 Report

Quoted By: >>115951193

>>115948343
equity restricts individual freedom by determining an equal outcome. think quotas (percentage of X must equally be distributed in Y) and identity politics (only X should do X)

boils down to "we need to be represented (by law)"

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:18:38 No.115949649 Report

Quoted By: >>115950417

>>115939455
You're wrong anon. Someone like Ava Duvernay or Jordan Peele would pull shit like that, but Ryan Coogler is above that. Ryan just brought most of his crewmembers from his smaller movies, Fruitvale Station and Creed. Ludwig Goransson, who won the Oscar for the music, is white. Rachel Morrison, who did cinematography, is white. They didn't go with Ruth Carter for costumes because she's black, they picked her because she's a great Oscar-nominated costume designer and the MCU's costumes are so eye-bleedingly terrible that Coogler was desperate to inject some distinctive flair into the movie. I think it's the only MCU film to have a truly memorable look and feel that can stand on its own (shitty CG-I notwithstanding).

I agree with a lot of what Anthony Mackie is saying, but Black Panther is not a good example . Most of its annoying wokeness is because of the critical and audience reception to it, not the movie itself which is martial arts Game of Thrones in Africa. From interviews I've seen with him, a lot of the perceived importance of the movie came to Coogler after it had been made.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:43:21 No.115950159 Report

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>>115943038
But blacks having a higher priority than Whites for the movie means the black people who got hired were more privilege than the whites

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:51:07 No.115950324 Report

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>>115938670
Dammit! They going to fucking cancel the one character who was happy about being a superhero! Fucking hell!!!

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:53:25 No.115950361 Report

Quoted By: >>115950395 >>115950507 >>115950789

>>115946790
He always was. Check out his intro, and that bit where Ant-man kicks his ass. Falcon was the spider-man we never got. The hero who wanted to be a hero, instead of getting Stark'd into the plot. I am so pissed at this right now- this is NOT the right time to make a statement. He's gonna get cancelled.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:55:12 No.115950395 Report

Quoted By: >>115950564

>>115950361
Spidey wanted to be a hero, too... He was already Spider-Man when Tony recruited him.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:56:23 No.115950417 Report

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>>115949649
Im willing to bet the other movies weren't all run by white people, either

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 05:56:34 No.115950423 Report

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>>115938881

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:00:47 No.115950507 Report

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>>115950361
I hope he gets more time to shine, I think he's actually got a lot of potential as an actor.
He was good in Hurt Locker, Night Catches Us and Winter Soldier. I think if he's given the spotlight in the Disney+ show, he'll be able to show his stuff more

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:03:57 No.115950564 Report

Quoted By: >>115950708

>>115950395
>Holland
>Spider-Man
Come on anon. His real is name is Spider-Stark.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:05:44 No.115950604 Report

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>>115938670
>Even if it means we're going to get the best two women, we're going to get the best two men.
What?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:12:10 No.115950701 Report

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>>115938670
>if you only can hire the Black people for the Black movie, are you saying they're not good enough when you have a mostly white cast?”
If you hire the best people for the job, they're going to be white or Asian men. If you specifically want black people, you have to lower your standards and deny more qualified people the job. That's literally why diversity quotas exist. It's why woke colleges have lower standards for black admissions.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:12:21 No.115950708 Report

Quoted By: >>115950901

>>115950564
God, shut up. Both movies stress that he has to fugure it out on his own, and when Spider-Man started out he wasn't purposely a loner. It makes sense in universe.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:17:39 No.115950789 Report

Quoted By: >>115950955

>>115950361
Man, now looking at it, the new Spider-Man movies are literally Iron Man: my wife son

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:19:38 No.115950832 Report

Quoted By: >>115951025

>>115949545
It's not about actual Africa, it's about the hokey "spiritual homeland" ankhs and kings version of Africa

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:23:40 No.115950901 Report

Quoted By: >>115950929 >>115950964 >>115953477

>>115950708
And all three movies show he relies a lot of Stark and co. He hasn't been in a movie where one avenger or avenger affiliate does not show up. In this universe, Tony is his role model and the one he looks up to. Even after Tony's death, peter still relies on Stark tech. And you know what? I get not showing Uncle Ben's death but completely ignoring his existence? Is he even a thing? I mean, he's the one that's supposed to inspire Pete in the first place. What's Peter's motivation in becoming Spider-Man? What we get is he got bit and suddenly thought it would be cool to be a superhero. We rarely see the "neighborhood" side of Spider-Man. In fact, in most of Homecoming he complains about Queens. Holland has no room to breathe because they have to force the fact that he's in the MCU.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:24:52 No.115950929 Report

Quoted By: >>115950960 >>115951097

>>115950901
Gee, it's almost like it's made by two studios or something.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:26:34 No.115950955 Report

Quoted By: >>115951026 >>115951368

>>115950789
I really hope the next movie focuses on him alobe so you all shut up about this

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:26:53 No.115950960 Report

Quoted By: >>115951064

>>115950929
I listed my reasons for not liking him, so what's your reason for liking his take?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:27:27 No.115950964 Report

Quoted By: >>115951069 >>115951082

>>115950901
Because he exists in a world where the Avengers exist.
That's kind of the nature of a cinematic universe like this, that the influence of other characters is felt even if they're not the central focus.
Given their impact (and particularly Stark's after Endgame), it makes sense that, as the young, up-and-coming hero, Peter feels a lot of pressure as a direct result of most of the old school Avengers either retiring or dying.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:31:01 No.115951025 Report

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>>115950832
Black Panther is very much an American invention of Africa. It's the cinematic equivalent of Kwanza: a pan-african amalgamation because the black people in America can't really trace their origin back to a specific country or sub-culture so they take Africa as a whole to be their homeland, rather than how other people can usually point to a specific country as the land of their ancestors (and sometimes more specific than that, down to specific towns).
So obviously Wakanda is a sort of mythological promised-land version of Africa, though I liked that Coogler took some inspiration from A Nation Under Our Feet (without Coates' essay-esque rambling dialogue) and addressed the divide between Africans and Westerners of African Descent

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:31:05 No.115951026 Report

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>>115950955
>Another scene paying respects to Tony Stark

Doubt

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:33:03 No.115951064 Report

Quoted By: >>115951184

>>115950960
Tom Holland actually looks young, and is an acrobat himself. He actually makes jokes as Spidey, the action is solid, he learns self reliance and responsibility without seeing Uncle Ben die again, he's believable as an awkward nerd. Vulture and Mysterio are both great.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:33:12 No.115951069 Report

Quoted By: >>115951097 >>115951495

>>115950964
They need to let him breathe though. Doctor Strange didn't constantly bring up the avengers. Ant-Man had an actual balance of MCU tie in and being its own thing. MCU Spider, however, didn't get this opportunity.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:34:14 No.115951082 Report

Quoted By: >>115951495

>>115950964
Also, in this world the Avengers started the whole superhero thing. In the comics theres multiple teams, all the X-Men, etc. As i said, it all makes sense in universe

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:35:15 No.115951097 Report

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>>115951069
See
>>115950929

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:39:05 No.115951184 Report

Quoted By: >>115951245 >>115951272

>>115951064
>He actually makes jokes as Spidey
Garfield did this as well. Those movies may not be the best but Garfield does certainly joke around.
>self reliance
This is the part where we are diverging. He still relies on Stark's tech for his suits. He doesn't make an actual suit for himself. It would make more sense to become more self reliant when he goes "You know what? I'm making my own suit!"to symbolize this.
>believable as an awkward nerd
Personally, I thought Maguire was just as if not more believable.
Every other statement I either understand or actually agree with.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:39:21 No.115951193 Report

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>>115949596
No, equity is about determining an equal input so the outcome can't be blamed on external factors like race boogeymen.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:39:23 No.115951194 Report

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>>115938670

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:42:17 No.115951245 Report

Quoted By: >>115951306

>>115951184
>>never makes his own suit
So you never saw Act 3 of Homecoming?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:43:24 No.115951272 Report

Quoted By: >>115951332

>>115951184
I liked Garfield's Spidey. Hated his Peter. Its the opposite for Maguire. Holland is best at both.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:44:59 No.115951306 Report

Quoted By: >>115951325

>>115951245
It's used temporarily. It's meant as a last-resort. Not as a full time suit.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:45:22 No.115951317 Report

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Yeah you guys are saying he's based now but whenever "hire the best person for the job" ends with a non white guy getting hired you never give it the benefit of the doubt.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:45:46 No.115951325 Report

Quoted By: >>115951435

>>115951306
So? Wouldn't you use a suit made by Tony Stark?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:46:17 No.115951332 Report

Quoted By: >>115951346

>>115951272
>Holland is best at both.
I guess you would call me "old fashioned". I can not get behind Holland's take. Let's just leave it as that.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:47:01 No.115951346 Report

Quoted By: >>115951462

>>115951332
Thats fine. The other movies still exist.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:48:07 No.115951368 Report

Quoted By: >>115951425

>>115950955
Nothing matters since Spider-Man will go back to Sony after the third movie, too bad since I kinda wanted to see an Iceman and Spider-Man team up or Spider-Man fighting Nightcrawler, spiderfags would still complain though

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:51:07 No.115951425 Report

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>>115951368
I imagine they'll keep Holland at least. It's a good thing Spider-Man has plenty of material. I'm hoping for an Absolute Carnage movie with Hardy Venom

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:51:21 No.115951435 Report

Quoted By: >>115951569 >>115951627

>>115951325
What makes Spider-Man such an inspirational character for so many was the fact he was pretty much a self made guy but he wasn't perfect. He was relatable. A high schooler who only a few months after becoming spider-man suddenly meets Iron Man and gets to fight the avengers? It makes sense in-universe but it just doesn't fit for me.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:52:50 No.115951462 Report

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>>115951346
>The other movies still exist
And I never said they didn't. It's just my personal preference

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:54:35 No.115951495 Report

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>>115951069
Sure, that's fair. I agree that going forward, Spiderman should definitely have more self-contained stories and arcs.
I thought Homecoming's actual core plot was largely pretty self-contained since it was influenced but not directly dependent on MCU characters. Like it could have been re-written without Stark's presence and would have been fine, so I didn't see his inclusion as too much of a crutch.
But for what they were, Homecoming and Far From Home felt like their use of other MCU elements was appropriate for the context. Also, I just like seeing worldbuilding shit like girls playing KillMarryFuck with the Avengers, or Captain America PSAs.
>>115951082
True, they highlighted it in the beginning with Toombs talking about how nuts the world was with super heroes running around all of a sudden

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 06:57:20 No.115951569 Report

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>>115951435
I guess, but him being a super genius was never relatable to me. Him just up and making web shooters and super durable webbing, and somehow always having material to make more besides not having money or even working in a lab, was always weird.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 07:00:06 No.115951627 Report

Quoted By: >>115951655 >>115951778

>>115951435
I don't know if spider-man being self-made was ever that big for me, personally. Like, his entry into superhero-status is largely driven by an accident.
Granted, I think he does put in a lot of leg-work for his web-spinners and such but I think what made him relatable was that his problems weren't just those posed by his super-hero career but also the personal and mundane problems of an average person. He has to deal with relationship shit, family shit, financial shit, social-status shit and so forth in addition to having to save the city on his off hours.
He's not so much a self-made-man but an everyman

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 07:01:12 No.115951655 Report

Quoted By: >>115951873

>>115951627
... Luke? Is that you?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 07:07:46 No.115951778 Report

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>>115951627
I should've said everyman but yeah, you said it better than I did.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 07:09:07 No.115951799 Report

Quoted By:

>Spider-Man out of the MCU
>"NOOOO THE MCU IS HIS HOME, COME BACK"
>Spider-Man back into the MCU
>"lmfao Spider-Man? more like Iron manboy"

If I was Feige I would rage quit this shit and tell Sony to take spiderman and shove it up their asses

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 07:13:28 No.115951873 Report

Quoted By: >>115951913

>>115951655
I don't know who you're talking about, friend.
Unless it's a Star Wars reference that's going over my head, I didn't see the last movie.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 07:16:00 No.115951913 Report

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>>115951873

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 09:43:27 No.115953477 Report

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>>115950901
The Avengers related cameos were all mandated by Sony since they were nervous that after Amazing Spider-man 2 the character on its own was damaged goods and critical poison, they essentially avoided the same mistake that WB did in order to make JL a brand that doesnt even hit 1 billion even though they have had a much bigger prescense in pop culture the last 50 years than the Avengers ever had until very recently.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Jun 2020 11:11:21 No.115954312 Report

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>>115946790
China's movie industry is doomed this year

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