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Joker War

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 18:57:21 2020 No.115916574 View Reply Original Report

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LET'S FUCKING GO

>DC is weeks away from kicking off what promises to be one of its biggest comic book storylines of 2020, Joker War. In this latest and greatest showdown between the Dark Knight and the Clown Prince of Crime, Joker has all the advantages. He knows Batman's secret identity and is finally ready to exploit that knowledge. Worse, he's managed to steal the Wayne fortune and turn all of Batman's resources against him. That's the premise fueling a massive crossover linking the flagship Batman comic with other titles like Detective Comics, Nightwing, and Batgirl.
We were able to chat with Batman writer James Tynion IV and Batman group editor Ben Abernathy to learn more about what Joker War holds in store for the Bat-family, including how new characters like Punchline and Clownhunter complicate an already dangerous status quo for Gotham City. You can check out our video interview with the duo in the player above, or read on to learn more about what could very well be the final battle between Batman and Joker.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 18:58:28 No.115916585 Report

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>>115916574
are there still 3 jokers because I stopped following a while ago

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:03:59 No.115916675 Report

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>Gotham City in Turmoil
>Joker War comes roughly half a year after DC wrapped up its previous Batman epic, City of Bane. The climax to Tom King's long-running Batman saga, City of Bane saw the titular villain cast a broken Batman out of Gotham and take complete control of the city. Though Batman eventually toppled Bane's regime and confronted his father's dark doppelganger (otherwise known as the Flashpoint Batman), that victory didn't come without a heavy cost. The Bat-family was left to mourn the death of Alfred Pennyworth, while Gotham itself struggles to recover from the collective trauma of living under months of Bane's rule. Needless to say, those dark events are playing directly into Joker War.

>"I've always been fascinated with Gotham City as a character, and how it reacts to all of these huge events that really, really rip it to its core," said Tynion. "Starting with my first issue of Batman, we started seeing how is Batman emotionally reacting to the death of Alfred and the events of City of Bane. But also very specifically, what was he doing to try to fix Gotham to prevent another event like that from happening."

>Tynion continued, "This is not just a breaking point for Batman and how he's been operating as a crime-fighter in Gotham City but also, it's the story of how Gotham City is starting to react to all of this happening over and over and over again. And the ways in which it changes and the ways it starts to react. And that's why certain characters like Clown Hunter and Punchline - they speak to different corners of Gotham City starting to change in the face of living in a world with Batman. And that sets the stage for so much story that's really going to be our roadmap leading forward."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:06:23 No.115916720 Report

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>>115916574
Isn't that just Death of the Family and the story where Joker pretended he was an immortal ?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:07:49 No.115916740 Report

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>Why Does Joker Care About Batman's Secret Identity?
>The idea that Joker now knows Batman's secret identity isn't necessarily a new one. At several points during writer Scott Snyder's New 52 Batman series, it was hinted Joker may have learned that secret years ago. But there's a reason Joker has never acted on that information before now. He only cares about Batman. Acknowledging the man beneath the mask would simply spoil their never-ending game. But as Tynion explained, Joker no longer cares about prolonging the fun. That's essentially why DC has been teasing this as the final showdown between Batman and Joker. Joker is ready to bring this age-old rivalry to its inevitable conclusion.

>"The real heart of this is in the fact that I think he's bored with the game," he said. "And I think he sees that Batman is also at this turning point, where Batman needs to make a lot of decisions about what sort of crime-fighter he's going to be in the future. Batman has literally just started building crazy machines that can print Batmobiles. He's stepped up his game in this huge, huge way that we've been seeing. And now we're going to see that elevated even further, we are going to see all of that turned against him."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:09:25 No.115916769 Report

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>Tynion continued, "And really, that's the thing that Joker's doing, he's turning every aspect of the Batman mythos against Batman. And trying to prove how dangerous it all is, and how much of a hypocrite Batman is for having fought that way. Because he sees Gotham City as something that has been waiting to shed itself of Batman for a long time. So the real question is... and this is something that we'll see voiced by Punchline in particular, is Punchline thinks that Joker is done with that, that this is meant to be the final step in their battle, where basically he's going to make his final thesis statement, and then move on. And we're going to see how true that is. But Joker really has... What he is planning to do to Gotham City is devastating. And he's doing it to dig deep into the heart of Batman."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:09:41 No.115916773 Report

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>>115916585
Yes. That will be answered soon too. Probably.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:12:02 No.115916812 Report

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>Explaining Joker’s Master Plan
Recent issues of Batman have established how exactly Joker plans to destroy Batman once and for all. Joker is using his knowledge of Batman's secret identity and a scheme first conceived by a villain known as the Designer to steal the Wayne fortune.

>As revealed in Batman #93, Bruce has surprisingly little recourse for recovering his pilfered fortune. He's always kept the vast majority of his money hidden in offshore accounts and under false identities. While this has allowed him to fund his war on crime without prying eyes, this means he'll have a hard time proving the stolen money was ever his to begin with. Joker now has $100 billion to play with, access to the full Wayne Enterprises arsenal, and even control of Gotham City Hall.

>Tynion explained, "In my first story arc, 'Their Dark Designs,' we see Joker having dragged up this case from many years ago, and this very frightening character, the Designer, he's unleashed this old plan against Gotham City, all as a kind of subterfuge to get the Wayne fortune away from Batman. And so now Batman has none of his resources, and Joker has all of them... Batmobiles, Batcycles, Baterangs are being handed to the most dangerous gangs of Gotham City, who have all joined Joker's gang. And on top of all of that, he is using the Wayne fortune to freeze City Hall, and basically make it so he can act with impunity. And this is definitely he's showing how dangerous all of that money can be right now. And that is, I think, the little "next" tag at the end of issue #93, which I loved, was “Joker's Billions.” [a callback to the classic "Joker's Millions" story] And we've never seen Joker this empowered and so ready to use everything."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:12:57 No.115916822 Report

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I want Joker to fight against other heroes like just Dr Doom and Kingpin.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:15:42 No.115916863 Report

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>A Batman Without Money
>Batman is a hero defined by an ability to overcome his limits. He may not have superhuman powers like the rest of the Justice League, but a combination of willpower, training and incredible wealth has allowed him to become one of the greatest heroes in the DC Universe. In Joker War, we'll see what happens when the wealth is removed from that equation.

>The goal isn't necessarily to transform Batman into a Peter Parker-like figure - a hero who struggles to pay his bills when he's not out on the street fighting costumed villains. As Tynion explained, it's more about bringing the character back to basics and reminding Batman he doesn't need those wonderful toys to keep Gotham safe.

>Tynion said, "That's something that I think is really important, because when Bruce went around training around the world, he wasn't using his fortune, the world thought he was dead. And at many points during his career, he's operated in a much more streamlined, much more down-to-earth way. And this is something that, as much as the Joker is showing the ways in which he has over-relied on all of this technology, and the reach of the Wayne fortune, this is also meant to be this moment where he re-centers himself, and is just like, 'I do not need to be a billionaire to be Batman.' And that, I think, is an important moment, and I think is part of the core evolution of the character that we're hoping to play with here."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:15:43 No.115916864 Report

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>>115916574
Abernathy is a based editor but Batman books are always so fucking boring

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:17:50 No.115916892 Report

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>>115916574
>Joker has all the advantages. He knows Batman's secret identity and is finally ready to exploit that knowledge. Worse, he's managed to steal the Wayne fortune and turn all of Batman's resources against him.
Oh yeah TOTALLY not a status quo shift conveniently preceding another continuity reboot. No way.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:20:18 No.115916926 Report

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>>115916574
have a crossover with bueno excellente and were talkin

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:20:31 No.115916931 Report

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>>115916740
>Joker is no longer playing, he's serious and wants the final showdown
So, TDKR, Endgame, when else? Why do they keep doing
>this is the end
stuff, why can't they just do simpler, well told stories?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:22:06 No.115916954 Report

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On one hand I kind of see the appeal of a back to basics Batman but I question how this is any different than Year Zero or City of Bane. Furthermore, assuming we just call it what it is, a No Mans Land, why won’t the Justice League help?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:23:08 No.115916974 Report

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>>115916931
I was actually starting to like the Tynion stuff, but if this is just another Gotham overrun thing it’s just cliche

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:23:11 No.115916977 Report

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>>115916812
>He's always kept the vast majority of his money hidden in offshore accounts and under false identities.
>Always
Then why do I feel this little wrinkle was JUST introduced to specifically make Wayne vulnerable to these shenanigans.
Its not like he was a secret billionaire invested in thousands of shell companies. He was the head of Wayne Industries and ran at least one charity.
This is the least plausible part of this story (amazingly, for a Batman story.)

It's hard enough to buy into Joker suddenly having a college groupie who's tough enough to beat up Harley Quinn and make threats at Deathstroke. I feel if Bendis were doing this shit people would be crying foul.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:25:33 No.115917027 Report

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>Where Is the Justice League?
>Readers may be wondering where the rest of the Justice League fits into the Joker War puzzle. If Joker has taken control of Gotham and the Wayne fortune, why can't Batman simply call up Superman, Wonder Woman or Flash to help deal with the problem? To an extent, that's always a problem when it comes to shared superhero universes, but Abernathy points out that Batman sees this Joker problem as a personal mission only he can fix. And for that matter, Batman may still have an ace or two up his sleeve.

>"My take is, ultimately, that I don't ever see Batman calling Superman or even the Justice League for help, necessarily, while he is still, essentially, has a play," Abernathy said. "Whatever the fight is, the Joker War, etc. Gotham City is his domain, the way I see it, and he handles his business there, as he has always done. I mean, if there's an extreme situation, obviously Batman has called Superman or the Justice League for help in the past, but this is a deeply personal battle, with him and the Joker. And he is going to see this one through to the end alone, or ultimately with the help of the Bat-family."

>Tynion added that while Batman may not call on the Justice League in Joker War, he has other allies closer to home. The story will hinge on the Bat-family's willingness to put aside their differences and come together at long last. 2012's Batman: Death of the Family saw Joker drive a huge wedge between Batman and his allies like Nightwing, Robin, and Batgirl, one that's never fully healed in the years since. Ironically, Joker may wind up being the catalyst that finally restores a united Bat-family.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:26:21 No.115917041 Report

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>>115917027
tl;dr Batman is acting retarded again for story.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:26:39 No.115917048 Report

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>Batman's Need for Accountability
>There's another side to the "Batman without money" equation being explored in Joker War, and one that's arguably more relevant than ever in 2020. Is it right for someone like Bruce Wayne to use his wealth and play the role of a vigilante with no oversight or accountability? Should Batman have to answer to the law? The fact that Joker's plan has succeeded precisely because Bruce kept his money hidden in offshore tax havens suggests that maybe it's time for Batman to reexamine his methods and his relationship to the people he's sworn to protect.

>"If you were a person living in the real Gotham City, how would you feel about someone having all of that power?" Tynion asked. "At the end of Joker War, as we're setting up the groundwork for the next year, I think that where this story takes Bruce is going to be a very interesting place, and I think it's going to lead to some really, really good stories."

>He continued, "Because really, when Bruce became a billionaire, it was just because he used to be a millionaire, and then the word 'billionaire' became bigger than 'millionaire' and became more common, so then Bruce got bumped up to being a billionaire. But being a billionaire in the real world has a lot more connotations in all of that, and I think that to make Batman this paragon that we want to look up to, I think that we should be analyzing that, and we should be looking at it. But it'll be analyzed and looked at in the context of really exciting stories, and people in costumes punching each other."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:28:28 No.115917070 Report

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>>115917048
>Is it right for someone like Bruce Wayne to use his wealth and play the role of a vigilante with no oversight or accountability?
I mean does DC realize they have a whole mess of Vigilantes who aren't billionaires?
Has Billy Batson been deputized by the Federal government to cross State lines and break up crime? So stupid.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:29:12 No.115917094 Report

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>How Punchline is Different From Harley Quinn
>Joker won't be waging war on Gotham all by himself. In addition to rallying many of the city's worst gangs to his cause, Joker has a new partner in the form of Punchline. As we've already learned in the buildup to Joker War, Punchline isn't just a Harley Quinn replacement, but someone who sees herself as an equal partner in Joker's plans.

>"I find Punchline a deeply fascinating character," Tynion said. "I laid it out the most clearly in the Joker 80th Anniversary Special, where we see who Alexis Kaye was before she became Punchline. And she is a very dangerous person, and dangerous in I think a very modern way. Because what I was interested to play with, with the character, is the idea of a young person who's been radicalized by a dangerous ideology. Someone who has found, through the internet, the ideas of the Joker. And now she's looking to embody those ideas. So her following of the Joker and her relationship with the Joker comes from this place of almost fanatical devotion."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:30:08 No.115917112 Report

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>>115916977
>who's tough enough to beat up Harley Quinn
>implying Harley is a strong fighter
Come one

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:30:17 No.115917116 Report

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>Tynion continued, "And the thing that makes her really interesting, especially as a kind of dark mirror to Harley, is that Harley always believed that there was something at a core human and sensitive and vulnerable inside of Joker. Punchline has never believed that. She thinks there is this beautiful ideology inside of the Joker that the Joker embodies, and that he's looking to present to the world. The truth is, neither of those things are true. Joker is... He's the Joker card. He can assume any value against anyone to make him see what he wants them to see. And that's what makes him so dangerous. And seeing these two characters who come at the Joker with the different beliefs that made them essentially fall in love with the Joker, the idea of the Joker, come from such different angles. So that's the root, and that's what makes me so excited about her as a character, and that's what I think is going to make her a very dangerous and vibrant addition to the Batman Rogues Gallery moving forward."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:30:50 No.115917125 Report

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>>115917048
>"Because really, when Bruce became a billionaire, it was just because he used to be a millionaire, and then the word 'billionaire' became bigger than 'millionaire' and became more common, so then Bruce got bumped up to being a billionaire.
Actually a lot of millionaires became billionaires because Reagan gave them an incredibly favorable tax system and broke organized labor, and turned a blind eye to offshoring.
The rich have gotten super-rich because the system is set up to favor people with lots of idle money.

This really is a low IQ writer.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:31:25 No.115917135 Report

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>>115917027
They can’t keep pulling the “this is his city, his problem” bullshit. Superman would fly up to Batman’s face, tell him to suck up his damn pride, and let people help him save lives.

Also how can Batman be utterly disarmed? He’s got Batcaves everywhere with all sorts of stuff. Joker has his money, not his entire network

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:31:52 No.115917143 Report

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>>115917112
>implying Harley is a strong fighter
DC comics has been implying that a lot lately, Yes.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:32:22 No.115917150 Report

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>Who is Clownhunter?
>While Punchline has already debuted in the buildup to Joker War, this crossover will also introduce another important new character in the form of Clownhunter. As his name suggests, this new vigilante is firmly against Joker and his clown army, though he's not exactly on Batman's side, either.

>"Clownhunter is a character I'm very, very excited about," said Tynion. "Clownhunter is meant to represent the voice of the people of Gotham City, the ones who feel like the city has reached a breaking point, and who feel like they can't wait for the Bat-family to solve their problems, they need to get out in the streets and solve them themselves."

>Tynion also spoke about the unique visual design of the character, revealing he, Abernathy, and artist Jorge Jimenez have drawn as much from the manga realm as traditional superhero comics.

>"Clownhunter is a character with DNA of a lot of my favorite media. Ben and I talked a lot about Akira when we were creating the character, and I think there's a bit of [Casey Jones'] DNA in there, and a little bit of Deadpool in there. We wanted to create a really interesting young character who doesn't necessarily agree with the core Batman ideology of not killing the bad guys. This is someone who's so sick of what's happening to his city that he's just going to go out there and he's going to kill some clowns. And his actions are their own condemnation of Batman himself as a concept."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:32:53 No.115917158 Report

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>>115916585
Batman: Three Jokers #1–3 August 25, 2020

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:33:11 No.115917163 Report

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>>115917116
>is that Harley always believed that there was something at a core human and sensitive and vulnerable inside of Joker.
More revisionist bullshit. Harley was a broken person who fell into the shadow of the person who pushed her over the edge. They are both maniacs, and this is just stupid.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:34:12 No.115917184 Report

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>>115917150
Oh Dear. This is unfortunate.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:35:10 No.115917200 Report

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>On Artist Jorge Jimenez
>Tynion has plenty of praise for artist Jorge Jimenez, who will be drawing all six issues of Batman during the Joker War crossover.

>"I just want to say, overall, how freaking phenomenal Jorge Jimenez's art is on this entire story," said Tynion. "Jorge has been a rising star at DC Comics for years. I got to work with him a little bit on Justice League. I actually worked with him for the first time years ago on an X-Men issue, my only X-Men issue, but I'm not allowed to talk about that while I'm promoting Batman. But honestly, I think Jorge is one of the best artists in comics, he perfectly embodies the spirit of everything I'm trying to bring to the book, the youth, and vibrancy that I think is evident in Gotham City, and that's why we're introducing new, young characters, it's why we both have strong influences from manga, and we're both drawing those influences in."

>And as Abernathy noted, having one artist draw the complete storyline is a novelty for a series that tends to rely heavily on a rotating art team to accommodate its twice-monthly shipping schedule.

>"I'm incredibly, incredibly proud of Their Dark Designs, but sometimes necessity means that a big storyline that is double-shipped, you've got to work with an army of incredibly talented artists, but Joker War is drawn by Jorge Jimenez... Jorge's work has been phenomenal. I've known Jorge for at least 10 years, and I like to think that the last 10 years have been literally preparation for Joker War, and his coming on Batman, because the guy is phenomenally talented, I think he works seven days a week, he is committed and he's just an amazing collaborative partner for James, and to be able to edit the two of them together, I won the lottery, the Batman lottery, so it's been amazing."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:35:15 No.115917202 Report

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>>115917112
>>implying Harley is a strong fighter
>literal super speed
>literal super strenght
>not a strong fighter

Read a comic nigga

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:35:24 No.115917209 Report

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>>115917150
>and a little bit of Deadpool in there.
>This is someone who's so sick of what's happening to his city that he's just going to go out there and he's going to kill some clowns.
What the fuck
Also, why they didn't hinted second Joker sidekick?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:35:41 No.115917217 Report

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>>115917112
Well the Trinity has jobbed to her so it's a fair statement at this point.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:36:26 No.115917230 Report

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>>115917202
>>literal super speed
>>literal super strenght
>as if it's relevant in superhero comics
>Read a comic nigga
Make me, tumblrina

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:36:32 No.115917231 Report

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Joker War: How the Bat-Family Fits In
While the main Joker War storyline will be chronicled in Batman #95-100, many of DC's other Batman-adjacent titles will be taking part in the crossover, most notably Detective Comics and Nightwing. DC will also be publishing an anthology special called Batman: Joker War Zone that spotlights other important players.

Abernathy explained, "While the Joker War core story is in Batman, there's a lot of important beats that will be taking place in the other titles... with Nightwing and Batgirl, and some big things happening in Detective Comics, Red Hood #48 in particular as well, so they are looking at Joker War from the different perspective of the different characters, and where they are this year, and how will the events of the last years have put them on different paths."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:37:13 No.115917247 Report

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Make literally anything new you complete fucking hack frauds

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:37:18 No.115917248 Report

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>>115917163
>More revisionist bullshit
Joker convinced her with an emotional story where he was a sympathetic victim, also Harley even after turning into a hero believed that the Joker had a good side and could change his mind

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:37:52 No.115917259 Report

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>Readers may be wondering how Joker War connects to other major Batman projects in 2020, like the recently launched Dark Nights: Death Metal, the limited series Batman: Three Jokers, and the indefinitely delayed Batman/Catwoman series from Tom King and Clay Mann. The short answer is that each project is telling its own story."

>Abernathy said, "The Joker War is a specific mainline Batman event. What Jason and Geoff are doing in Three Jokers is its own thing, what Tom and Clay are doing in Batman/Catwoman, their own thing, what Scott and Greg with Death Metal... I mean, it's amazing for readers to have such amazing content, but none of them connect to the Joker War puzzle at all, this is our story, this is the main Batman story, and as a fan, I'm looking forward to reading all the other titles for sure, and be sure to check out Death Metal, because that first issue was bonkers fun."

>But while there may not be any direct connections between these different Batman epics, Abernathy noted the goal heading into 2021 is to foster a greater sense of inter-connectivity and focus among the various Batman titles.

>"Me as a fan, but me also as the group editor, I like the inter-connectivity and cohesion between the line," he said. "Not saying that it's rigid in how everything operates or balances out, but I definitely want to send some connectivity in the line that it matters, that there is a common vision to what we're doing, and how that impacts the characters going forward."

>Tynion teased readers will get a sense of what the future holds for the franchise when Joker War wraps up in Batman #100.

>"Issue #100 is a huge climactic issue that sets the stage for everything that follows. It is a big, exciting comic book. And there's going to be a lot more about it as we move forward. I'm also very excited for everyone to see the cover for it, because when it first showed up in my inbox, I lost my mind."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:38:54 No.115917277 Report

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>Joker War will begin in Batman #95, which will release on Tuesday, July 21.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:38:59 No.115917280 Report

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>>115916892
This. With 5G out the window and the new distribution deal, along with a fresh start without Didio, it’s obvious they are going to reboot to get out of the current rut. So they just told Tynion to go nuts with this because it won’t matter Come the fall.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:39:26 No.115917290 Report

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>>115917135
No Man's Land was one of the worst since it treated Superman like he couldn't help Gotham with brute strength when he totally could.

>>115917150
>and a little bit of Deadpool in there.
Oh boy.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:40:18 No.115917310 Report

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>>115917247
No U. We will make a Big Joker Event and you bitches better polybag multiple copies because NOTHING WILL EVAR BE THE SAME AGAIN!*

*the publisher does not guarantee that things won't be the same again the following year.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:40:29 No.115917313 Report

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>>115917150
He looks like the embodiment of early 00s pop punk and I love it

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:41:51 No.115917335 Report

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>>115917290
May be the problem is within Superman

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:41:54 No.115917337 Report

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>>115917248
>even after turning into a hero
>Harley
Pardon? If Harley is a hero, why is she regularly on the Suicide Squad? Is it just a hobby?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:42:04 No.115917339 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917313
>.25 cents has been added to your account

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:42:42 No.115917349 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917094
Is that Lucius? Jesus. Also Tyinion that wasn’t an origin, you didn’t explain shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:43:02 No.115917356 Report

Quoted By: >>115917379

Joker war? And pray tell, what are the many other heroes doing that prevent them from stopping all this mess? This is a shared universe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:43:05 No.115917359 Report

Quoted By: >>115917419

>>115917337
To boost sales, duh. New to comics I take it?
Next you'll ask why Wolverine was an Avenger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:43:54 No.115917375 Report

Quoted By: >>115917450

>>115917163
No that was always a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:44:07 No.115917379 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917356
Batman didn't invite them, so they have their hands tied, even if Joker kills everyone in the city with poison gas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:45:05 No.115917401 Report

Quoted By: >>115917513

>>115917337
>why is she regularly on the Suicide Squad?
Because she still feels guilty. She was actually told her sentence was up and didn’t want to go. Humphries’s solo Harley run also validates her redemption

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:46:02 No.115917419 Report

Quoted By: >>115917481

>>115917359
>Next you'll ask why Wolverine was an Avenger.
But anon, Wolverine never started as a crazy villain.
And Deadpool didn't last long in Avengers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:46:14 No.115917426 Report

Quoted By:

I can't wait for hot topic to reopen so my friends and i can buy all the punchline and clownhunter gear XD lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:47:21 No.115917450 Report

Quoted By: >>115917535

>>115917375
No, Harley was always infatuated with the Joker, that's not the same as thinking he's a good guy at his core. He's objectively 100% awful, she didn't care and took his abuse as affection because she, like Joker, is (was?) nuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:48:45 No.115917481 Report

Quoted By: >>115917517 >>115917589

>>115917419
No but consider the people he’s killed and how many times they’ve forgiven The Hulk. Also what about Moon Knight’s questionable record?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:50:07 No.115917513 Report

Quoted By: >>115917576

>>115917401
>Because she still feels guilty.
Guilty for what? She was having the time of her life in Palmiotti's run just before Humphries. What does characterization matter anyway? Nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:50:16 No.115917517 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917481
The point is that there was no good raisin or rationale for Wolverine to ever be on the Avengers, he was simply on the team for a while to gin up sales, logic be damned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:51:03 No.115917535 Report

Quoted By: >>115917638

>>115917450
Go back and rewatch and reread Mad Love. Harley thought Joker was a troubled man with issues she could help him resolve. Remember the “my father and the circus” lie? She even said he was a misunderstood guy trying to make the world laugh.

Harley saw what she wanted, and what Joker wanted, her to see. She was manipulated, and wanted to believe she could eventually change him

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:52:57 No.115917576 Report

Quoted By: >>115917662 >>115918581

>>115917513
>Guilty for what?
For her past crimes. Palmotti’s and Conner’s run sucked, we’ve called this out. Humphries actually made her a down to earth flawed character struggling to fix her life and prove to people she can do good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:53:31 No.115917589 Report

Quoted By: >>115917673

>>115917481
Yeah but here comes another difference. Marvel in general have much less problems with killing due to their military/complicated origin of many characters
So story of Deadpool building trustworthy relatonships with Logan and Steve etc makes more sense than JL letting Joker sidekick run away since they are much more moralfag (of course except times when WW needs to shake another neck) since they are relics from the first half of XX century

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:56:00 No.115917638 Report

Quoted By: >>115917700 >>115918393

>>115917535
And who's fault is that? She is a grown up. If I climbed into a zoo area with lions, just because they look friendly don't mean they are not going to kill me for making a stupid decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:57:12 No.115917662 Report

Quoted By: >>115917700

>>115917576
>Palmotti’s and Conner’s run sucked, we’ve called this out.
That's true, and yet it apparently sold better than Humphries, considering the series is now cancelled. Could it be that maybe readers prefer Harley as a maniac rather than a "hero"?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:57:27 No.115917670 Report

Quoted By:

So basically this is just another iteration of the many "Batman Rogue takes over the City" stories, only this one doesn't even have a flimsy rationale for the rest of the DC Universe to sit idly by, Supes and Wonder Woman and the rest of the League are supposed to be ok with the JOKER taking over a city of millions "because Bruce has this".
And we've completely come up with a "fresh" idea of how the Wayne fortune works, just so it can conveniently be carted off like the devices in the Nolan films or the "I press this button on the exchange and it's all wiped out" nonsense of Rises. Awful new OC everywhere, ridiculous plot twists, and Batman has to make retarded decisions for a long stretch so the plot can stumble along.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:57:33 No.115917673 Report

Quoted By: >>115917724

>>115917589
Harley currently is bending over backward to prove her new life to the JLA and especially Batman. There was an issue in Humphries’s run where Harley is framed for murder and convinces Batman to have the chance to clear her name. It was Lord Death Man. And from what I’ve recollected, she hasn’t murdered anyone since

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:58:08 No.115917684 Report

Quoted By: >>115919107

>>115917158
Didn't they bring up that plot point what, 2 or 3 years ago?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:58:56 No.115917700 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917638
Quit moving goalposts
>>115917662
It’s more because Humphries started on issue 45 and most weren’t aware of the shift in quality (this board certainly didn’t). Besides the book is likely only ending at 75 so they can reboot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:59:01 No.115917701 Report

Quoted By:

>he knows who batman is
didnt this happen in synders edgy joker story?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 19:59:15 No.115917703 Report

Quoted By: >>115917740 >>115917793

>>115917027
So Superman and Wonderwoman are literally letting innocents die to sate Bruce's ego? Seriously?
Also this whole story is a rip-off of Nolan's Batman
>Act one all of Batman's money is stolen
>Bane steals all of Batman's cache, including Batmobile
>Batman has to face villain with no money and gadgets

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:00:36 No.115917724 Report

Quoted By: >>115917768

>>115917673
And it's still retarded.
Simply because JL are literally collection of paragons of justice who sits above the filthy mortals in a fancy Watchtower

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:01:38 No.115917740 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917703
>So Superman and Wonderwoman are literally letting innocents die to sate Bruce's ego? Seriously?
They never had problems with innocents dying for other reasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:02:00 No.115917747 Report

Quoted By:

>>115916574
Spoilers: Batman wins, nothing changes, capefags lose more money

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:03:04 No.115917768 Report

Quoted By: >>115917799 >>115917828

>>115917724
>And it's still retarded.
That’s not an argument, and it’s not even the first former criminal or morally questionable person they’ve forgiven/chose to work with. Harley is small potatoes by comparison, and is actually working really hard to better herself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:03:37 No.115917777 Report

Quoted By: >>115917836

>>115917230
>thinks a juiced up murderclown who was both a former Furies member and a pro wrestler can't beat Joker's college-age, normal groupie.
>doesn't read comics
sounds like you just have a bias, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:04:42 No.115917793 Report

Quoted By: >>115917823 >>115917845

>>115917027
batman being stubborn is completely in character
>>115917231
there is no way angry joker fangirl stands a chance in a fight vs dick
>>115917703
damn it really is

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:05:20 No.115917799 Report

Quoted By: >>115917841 >>115918067 >>115918324

>>115917768
>That’s not an argument, and it’s not even the first former criminal or morally questionable person they’ve forgiven/chose to work with.
Please name any other famous Batman villain who was fully redeemed (not temporary like Riddler)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:06:04 No.115917810 Report

Quoted By:

And at the end, when batman is about to confront the Joker for the final showdown, they will reveal that The Batman Who Laughs defeated The Joker off-screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:06:21 No.115917823 Report

Quoted By: >>115917833

>>115917793
>there is no way angry joker fangirl stands a chance in a fight vs dick
1) It's not Dick
2) It's probably just friendly/traning sparring

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:06:44 No.115917828 Report

Quoted By: >>115917878 >>115918324

>>115917768
The Avengers have a moral low-bar for entry; essentially you just have to be able to kick a lot of ass to AVENGE people.

The Justice League are supposed to be the shining example for every other superhuman to follow, they are supposed to be Jesus and his Apostles of DC superhero-dom.

They aren't supposed to let Solomon Grundy on the team because he's had a change of heart and found some pants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:07:14 No.115917833 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917823
thats clearly nightwing

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:07:27 No.115917836 Report

Quoted By: >>115917860 >>115917870 >>115918063

>>115917777
>>doesn't read comics
Oh look who is talking.
Wasted quads

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:07:47 No.115917841 Report

Quoted By: >>115917878 >>115917886

>>115917799
Who said anything about just Batman? Let’s see....Plastic Man used to work with the mob, and was deemed so dangerous he was put on the fucking moon. The. There’s John Constantine, who has a list of sins and crimes against humanity that makes demons blush. Speaking of demons, Etrigan is okay too. Or hey what about Hawkman murdering his foes?

Should I go on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:07:59 No.115917845 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917793
>there is no way angry joker fangirl stands a chance in a fight vs dick
You probably thought Catwoman would fare poorly against the Flash Family. I'd be preparing my anus for Punchline doing super-well against even Cass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:08:27 No.115917857 Report

Quoted By: >>115917948

>>115917112
>implying
Somebody post the page where she trounces Bats, Supes, and Wondy.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:08:32 No.115917860 Report

Quoted By: >>115918063 >>115918201

>>115917836
whoops wrong picture

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:09:01 No.115917870 Report

Quoted By: >>115917902 >>115917948

>>115917836
He's not saying this didn't happen; he's just saying there's no logical way this could happen unless Punchline is a metahuman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:09:20 No.115917878 Report

Quoted By: >>115917902

>>115917828
Ahem...see>>115917841. Oh hey remember when Lex Luthor was okay to be on the team? Captain Cold?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:09:56 No.115917886 Report

Quoted By: >>115917914

>>115917841
>The. There’s John Constantine, who has a list of sins and crimes against humanity that makes demons blush.
Most of them he committed back in Vertigo when it was standalone series. After new-52 Constantine is shadow of it's former sizes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:11:15 No.115917902 Report

Quoted By: >>115917914 >>115917931

>>115917870
Because harley is metahuman as well?
Also, care to remind fromwhere she got healin-factor?

>>115917878
>Oh hey remember when Lex Luthor was okay to be on the team? Captain Cold?
So temporary memebers...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:12:13 No.115917914 Report

Quoted By: >>115917938

>>115917886
>I-It doesn’t count!
Right
>>115917902
So? They were content on having both on board, and both left on their own

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:13:27 No.115917931 Report

Quoted By: >>115917960

>>115917902
From Ivy? Are you implying that Punchline has been fucking Poison Ivy too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:13:48 No.115917938 Report

Quoted By: >>115918002

>>115917914
>>I-It doesn’t count!
Yes it does since John haven't committed all hist nastiest sins in DC universe.

>>115917914
>So?
So they returned to their villains role, dear dyke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:14:09 No.115917948 Report

Quoted By:

>>115917857
OK, so:
>juiced-up murderclown with years of experience in Task Force X who has beaten the Trinity, joined the Female Furies, worked as a pro-wrestler and outsmarted Batman before gets killed by a fucking Joker fangirl fresh out of college, with a degree in Chemistry at best.
In what world does this make sense?

>>115917870
Exactly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:14:50 No.115917960 Report

Quoted By: >>115918006 >>115918030

>>115917931
>From Ivy?
[citation needed]

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:16:03 No.115917983 Report

Quoted By:

I think we are overlooking the worst aspect of all of this; Bruce Wayne has been transformed from a billionaire playboy/industrialist and CEO of Wayne Industries...
Into Jeffery Epstein.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:16:50 No.115918002 Report

Quoted By: >>115918067

>>115917938
>Yes it does since John haven't committed all hist nastiest sins in DC universe.
Excuse me? He’s still the same old John, making deals that fuck over innocent lives and his own soul for the greater good.
>So they returned to being villains
Yeah I know, that’s not what we’re arguing. You said Harley was this monster the league would never associate with, which is false
>Dyke
Now you’re reaching. Harley Ivy is cancer by the way

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:17:04 No.115918006 Report

Quoted By: >>115918067

>>115917960
You're the one who implied Punchline was metahuman/had the same habilities Harley got when she got Ivy's plant juice, where's your citations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:18:17 No.115918030 Report

Quoted By: >>115918078 >>115918081

>>115917960
All of Harley Quinn's metahuman abilities come from Ivy. That's easily searchable on her DC character pages. If she has a healing factor, (and the panel from a future issue with a nasty scar implies she doesn't really) its from Ivy.
She probably survives this because she's physically superhumanly robust, and resistant to infection/disease/poison ect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:20:17 No.115918063 Report

Quoted By: >>115918102 >>115919222

>>115917836
>>115917860
>this fucking dialogue
I don't know what's worse, Palmiotti who went full ham on Harley's accent making it nearly indecipherable to read, or Tynion who ignores Harley's accent completely and makes her sound like a completely different character.

This whole character shift is fucking stupid. We're supposed to buy Harley's redemption arc despite decades of violence and murder on her part. Let's say in theory I wanted to do that. To what end am I supposed to forgive this character? Is she going to be in after school specials now? Is she donating to toys for tots? She gonna run for President? How many murderers do we give this privilege to, in any reality? They gave Lex the presidency, which was equally stupid. I'm just tired of this whole Harley era. It all feels fucking fake and forced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:20:27 No.115918067 Report

Quoted By: >>115918134

>>115918002
>He’s still the same old John,
Dyke please, all DC incarnations of John are watered down version of original
>You said Harley was this monster the league would never associate with, which is false
No dyke, I said >>115917799
>(not temporary like Riddler)
>Now you’re reaching. Harley Ivy is cancer by the way
>says a dyke defending her waifu
Okay
>>115918006
>where's your citations?
1) I've posted my citation from comics
2) I've asked about the source of harley getting Deadpool abilities from fucking Ivy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:21:22 No.115918078 Report

Quoted By: >>115918106

>>115918030
Or because like Batman, Catwoman, Nightwing ect. ect., she can take a bullet to the chest and walk it off because she's just a badass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:21:30 No.115918081 Report

Quoted By: >>115918119 >>115918121

>>115918030
>That's easily searchable on her DC character pages.
Burden of proof lies on you

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:22:23 No.115918102 Report

Quoted By: >>115918122

>>115918063
>To what end am I supposed to forgive this character? Is she going to be in after school specials now? Is she donating to toys for tots? She gonna run for President?
She's going to be selling merchandise in Hot Topics to what DC imagines is their female audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:22:35 No.115918106 Report

Quoted By: >>115918132

>>115918078
People can walk with bullets in the chest, because chest is fuckhueg, unlike with slice throat after taking bath in the septic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:23:31 No.115918119 Report

Quoted By: >>115918133

>>115918081
nigga have you watched BTAS? have you read Harley's first comic appearance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:23:35 No.115918121 Report

Quoted By:

>>115918081
The rest of us who read comics know where she gets her powers from. I'm sorry you're phoneposting and unwilling to Google something, I don't feel compelled to cure your ignorance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:23:36 No.115918122 Report

Quoted By: >>115918165

>>115918102
>She's going to be selling merchandise in Hot Topics to what DC imagines is their female audience.
That's why her movie flopped?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:24:36 No.115918132 Report

Quoted By: >>115918153

>>115918106
You know that bullets generally don't make neat little bloody holes in people like 50's cowboy movies, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:24:40 No.115918133 Report

Quoted By: >>115918186

>>115918119
I did still zero mentions of her getting healing factor from Ivy she always were crazy acrobat who fucked her way to the Arkham because she thought it will be cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:24:45 No.115918134 Report

Quoted By: >>115918179

>>115918067
>Met with actual arguments
>Resorts to name-calling, nuhuh, and “those don’t count” just so the fag can feel right

I think we’re done, and we’ve established you’re a fucking casual who is looking for excuses to shit on Harley simply because she’s popular and has shit adaptations. She’s changed, and she’s not the first or last morally questionable person the League has worked with

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:25:45 No.115918153 Report

Quoted By: >>115918210

>>115918132
Yes I knew
Yet still world full of stories from various wars where soldiers survived with many bullets within their bodies

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:25:54 No.115918159 Report

Quoted By: >>115919042 >>115919103 >>115919133 >>115921394

Am I stupid for liking Punchline?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:26:08 No.115918165 Report

Quoted By: >>115918201

>>115918122
Yes, because DC has a negligible female audience, and Wonder Woman got a serious female audience by virtue signaling a female director/character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:27:12 No.115918179 Report

Quoted By: >>115918206

>>115918134
>>Met with actual arguments
>specially mentioned to exclude temporary examples
>brings temporary examples

>you’re a fucking casual
>says a dyke who defends harley queer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:27:38 No.115918186 Report

Quoted By: >>115918201

>>115918133
Me neither. No one except you brought up harley having a "healing factor".
Harley doesn't have a healing factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:28:14 No.115918197 Report

Quoted By: >>115918544

Sadly there is some decent ideas here that would make it work if they would just promote it as a "jumping on point" for new readers.

>>Punchline finds out that Joker knows Batman's secret identity. Joker explains that he doesn't do anything with it, because it doesn't matter because he knows Bruce Wayne is a mask and besides, he's already done horrible shit to Bruce's loved ones and that doesn't phase Batman.

>>Punchline instead suggests Joker steal Batman's fortune instead. Pitches it as making Batman fight crime as a poorfag being funny".

>>Joker goes with it, steals the Wayne fortune from Bruce.

>>Bruce is poor and suddenly has to deal with Joker using his money to do all sorts of social projects in Gotham, literally giving Bruce's money away to the poor just to fuck with him and make sure Bruce can't get his money back.

>>Batman and Joker fight, during the battle the Batcave is invaded by Punchline and destroyed along with Wayne Manor.

>>Joker escapes and uses what's left of his money to run Punchline as mayor as a dig at AOC.

>>Bruce is now without a home or lair or money, Joker is now universally loved for giving away Bruce's money, and Bruce has to keep fighting crime on a shoestring budget using old weapons and an old Batmobile.

>>To make money, Bruce is forced to host a talk show alongside Vicki Vale (his ex, who gives him a job) and we see Bruce dealing with the media and how they get pissy when he wants to use his show to promote social causes and speak out against the Punchline, who is set to become the new mayor if Bruce can't stop her and Joker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:28:34 No.115918201 Report

Quoted By: >>115918250

>>115918165
Wasn't BoP also female director/character.?
>>115918186
>Harley doesn't have a healing factor.
Then how she healed this wound >>115917860?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:28:50 No.115918206 Report

Quoted By: >>115918246

>>115918179
>Temporary
>D-D-Dyke! He has to be a stupid shipper
Pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:29:02 No.115918209 Report

Quoted By:

>>115916574
Every time I think I couldn't possibly be any more sick of the Joker, DC manages to prove me wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:29:06 No.115918210 Report

Quoted By: >>115918246

>>115918153
Yes, a few out of tens of thousands survive these traumas. There's even people who survive a pipe clear through their skull. Everybody in the Batman Universe survives this sort of abuse 100% of the time, its not even in doubt. Catwoman gets shot in the back at point blank range in the latest issue and her survival isn't even slightly in doubt. She'll be kicking ass again before a week's time has passed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:31:33 No.115918246 Report

Quoted By: >>115918263 >>115918279

>>115918206
Not an argument
>>115918210
>There's even people who survive a pipe clear through their skull.
because skull as well larger than throat and it requires to hit very special zones in skull to cause instant death
>Bu what about...
Seriously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:31:43 No.115918250 Report

Quoted By: >>115918318

>>115918201
>Wasn't BoP also female director/character.?
Yes, but it isn't going to just keep working.
Captain Marvel's audience skewed male, women really don't give that much of a shit about superheroes in general.
Wonder Woman made a lot of money because critics and pundits kept writing articles about how important and uplifting it was for Feminism. "Take your Mom and daughters" type shit.
I guess Mom got to see Pine's ass so that's something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:32:47 No.115918263 Report

Quoted By: >>115918324

>>115918246
Im still waiting on your argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:33:49 No.115918279 Report

Quoted By: >>115918324

>>115918246
I said THROUGH the skull, there aren't a lot of locations where a physical object can pass completely though your skull and not kill you.
But honestly I'm weary of entertaining your pedantic autism.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:36:47 No.115918318 Report

Quoted By:

>>115918250
Also Wonder Woman can sell as a "Magical Princess story finds love and saves the day" sorta tale, which women DO eat up.
Harley is just some slut/dyke.
DC really read way to much into the costume thing, I remember when everyone was The Crow for Halloween, and it didn't turn into the next Big Thing afterward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:37:04 No.115918324 Report

Quoted By: >>115918689

>>115918263
>Im still waiting on your argument
Anon already made it clear-> >>115917828
And I specified before>>115917799
So where is the rest of serial killers in JL ranks?
Except of WW, of course.
>>115918279
>there aren't a lot of locations
Actually plenty (that's why you need smaller bullets for better headshots)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:38:21 No.115918345 Report

Quoted By: >>115918361

>>115917150
This character design is trash.

Reeks of "dies in a crossover event sometime in the near future".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:38:48 No.115918352 Report

Quoted By: >>115918385

>How did Harley survive this injury in this book i've only seen a few leaked pages from?
I don't know, maybe if we could read the fucking book we'd know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:39:23 No.115918361 Report

Quoted By:

>>115918345
He's not interesting enough to die, I'd say more of "writer changes, character is never mentioned again".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:40:47 No.115918385 Report

Quoted By: >>115918402

>>115918352
So we just wait for how they name healing factor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:41:18 No.115918393 Report

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Not a big fan of the idea because we JUST had a "gotham is destroyed, THIS IS IT" arc last year. I don't hate it, it could be entertaining, but I don't love it either. Also I can't help but feel bad for Batman, he weaponized and rebuild Gotham so that something like Bane's invasion could never happen again and the Joker almost immediately turns all of his resources and plans against him. He really can't catch a break.
>>115917638
You're goalpost moving. The point is Harley entered the Joker's life with the intent to cure him. She saw him as a sympathetic victim and was infatuated with him.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:41:45 No.115918402 Report

Quoted By: >>115918434

>>115918385
idk, man, a massive scar in your neck doesn't scream "healing factor" to me.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:43:31 No.115918432 Report

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There are some good conceits here but I'm just fucking sick of joker stories. I am excited weirdly for three Jokers though.

The other thing I dislike is how fundamentally this tries to operate on real world logic. "Bruce is a billionaire, so he should have to deal with the nature of being one". Morrison said it best - its comic books. If you're having batman repent for being rich, you're missing the point. He already uses his resources for social causes and fighting crime - look at batman inc. Comics dont operate on real world logic.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:43:37 No.115918434 Report

Quoted By: >>115918467

>>115918402
>idk, man, a massive cancer tumors across your whole body doesn't scream "healing factor" to me
Seriously?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:45:40 No.115918467 Report

Quoted By: >>115918508

>>115918434
>Harley recovered from an injury, that means she has a healing factor

Wow, look at the big brain on anon.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:47:17 No.115918495 Report

Quoted By: >>115918519

>>115917027
Based super friends

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:48:31 No.115918508 Report

Quoted By: >>115918588

>>115918467
>>Harley recovered from the lethat injury, that means she has a healing factor
fix

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:49:33 No.115918519 Report

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>>115918495
Well since they are okay with serial killers...

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:50:59 No.115918544 Report

Quoted By: >>115918677

>>115918197
This is so fucking shitty, go back to writing your fan fics on tumblr

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:53:35 No.115918581 Report

Quoted By: >>115918706

>>115917576
>We
Sod off, faggot. There is no we. Harley should never be a hero.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:53:59 No.115918588 Report

Quoted By: >>115918626

>>115918508
Therefore, people who have suffered life-threatening injuries also have healing factors?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:55:49 No.115918626 Report

Quoted By: >>115918666

>>115918588
Nope since they had much less dangerous wounds and they didn't take bath in septics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:56:50 No.115918636 Report

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>>115916574
At this rate raping him would make a more interesting storyline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:59:06 No.115918666 Report

Quoted By: >>115918709

>>115918626
At this point I think every single character in the Batman mythos has suffered a critical injury in the sewers. Maybe not Alfred, but I wouldn't be willing to lay money on it.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 20:59:50 No.115918677 Report

Quoted By: >>115918741

>>115918544
Kind of disagree. That could be something interesting and new status quo-wise that doesn't blow up everything.

>>Flesh out the Bruce Wayne side of Batman and deal with the idea of how Gotham and the other elites see him and the notion that Batman can do more good as Bruce than as Batman

>>Fleshes out the Joker/Punchline relationship and allows an exit door for them, as far as getting rid of Punchline via Joker eventually turning on her when she gets too big for her britches and tries to doublecross Joker

>>Batman struggling with lack of resources and ultimately having to rely less on his toys and more on his witts and resourcefulness

>>Brings in Vicki Vale to shatter King's garbage ship of Bruce/Selina

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:00:23 No.115918689 Report

Quoted By: >>115918756

>>115918324
>So where is the rest of serial killers in JL ranks?
I gave you several examples of questionable people and you brushed it off like it didn’t count. What about Katana and her soul sucking sword?

Hell Harley isn’t even the first fucking Bat villain Bruce has cut some slack. Man Bat, Killer Croc, and Mr Freeze were all given the benefit of the doubt. At this point you’re just being an obtuse cunt

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:01:27 No.115918706 Report

Quoted By: >>115918830

>>115918581
So you LIKED Palmiotti and Conner? Get some fucking taste
>Harley should never be a hero
Oh but everyone else with a criminal record is okay?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:01:31 No.115918709 Report

Quoted By: >>115918781

>>115918666
>At this point I think every single character in the Batman mythos has suffered a critical injury in the sewers
Yeah and how many of them survived after their throats were sliced?
Second Batman got bullet in the head and lost all his memory and ended up in a Joker team. Jason Todd and Damian were resurrected by magic stuff.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:03:18 No.115918741 Report

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>>115918677
>Batman struggling with lack of resources and ultimately having to rely less on his toys and more on his witts and resourcefulness
This will never happen, in comics or movies, because it requires good writing. Bat-computers and magical science gadgets move the story along acceptably for the level of readership Batman attracts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:03:56 No.115918756 Report

Quoted By: >>115918778

>>115918689
Only temporary examples
>Man Bat, Killer Croc, and Mr Freeze were all given the benefit of the doubt. At this point you’re just being an obtuse cunt
Neither of them are psychopatic serial killer, she is literally closer to Ivy, Mad Hatter and Vic

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:04:23 No.115918761 Report

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>>115917048
>Which brings us around to super-heroes. Specifically, the Justice League. The world will always have dark corners, and black and white comes in thousands of shades of grey, but here are seven people, good and true, come what may. They have the power to enslave the world, but work tirelessly to keep it free. They don't succumb to envy, greed or jealousy, and their sense of purpose is driven by an unshakable faith in mankind's basic good. They are, in the best sense of the word, childlike. It is the very essence of the term Super-hero. An imaginative fiction that is better than real, constructed to help you, in some small way, to develop your own youthful imagination and value system.

>I'm 42 now, and I suppose that I believe that the magic of this specific genre is based on the notion that seven powerful people can work together to make the world a better place. That they will do the right thing no matter what the personal cost, no matter how "grim and gritty" the world around them becomes. They are the heroic ideal.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:05:09 No.115918778 Report

Quoted By: >>115918834

>>115918756
Motherfucker they’re only “temporary” because status quo demanded it. Croc wasn’t a serial killer? Fuck off

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:05:21 No.115918781 Report

Quoted By: >>115918834

>>115918709
Don't forget the spinal injuries, punctured lungs, being turned into an undead creature of the night, ect. ect. It would be a massive twist if Harley didn't survive the usual "we've critically injured but not killed this character, lets dump them somewhere and just let them slowly die while we don't watch" scenario.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:09:05 No.115918830 Report

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>>115918706
Other villains don't have their shitty acts waved away because
>muh domestic abuse
They are held responsible for their shit by the narrative. Harley's badness is excused, she's portrayed as a victim, during her villainy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:09:26 No.115918834 Report

Quoted By: >>115918862 >>115918873

>>115918778
>Motherfucker they’re only “temporary” because status quo demanded it.
False, they were temporary becuase they were villains, and basically remained villains within.
>>115918781
>, punctured lungs,
You do realise human have two lungs?
>, ect. ect.
So how many sliced throats, severed limbs, decapitations?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:11:38 No.115918862 Report

Quoted By: >>115918947

>>115918834
>False, they were temporary becuase they were villains, and basically remained villains within.
That is a load of horseshit and you know it. Or wait, maybe you don't because you don't read a goddamn thing. Killer Croc? Has had several redemptions, constantly fucked by status quo. For example, saved people while on the Suicide Squad, in a relationship with June Moon, and then they did that forced "oh no he's gone feral again because he got burned by the sun" bullshit.

It's okay to not like Harley, but don't sit there and lie out your ass

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:12:20 No.115918873 Report

Quoted By: >>115918920 >>115918947

>>115918834
Jason was reduced to bloody mashed-potatoes, AND voted "off the island", and I notice he's still about with no healing factor.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:15:18 No.115918915 Report

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>>115916574
>He knows Batman's secret identity and is finally ready to exploit that knowledge
Didn't Bruce literally just go up to Joker and reveal himself? Joker didn't uncover shit

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:15:34 No.115918920 Report

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>>115918873
So you will use shitty examples aka (New-52 Jason) to defend your waifu, dyke?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:18:10 No.115918946 Report

Quoted By: >>115918993

>>115916812
>Bruce has surprisingly little recourse for recovering his pilfered fortune. He's always kept the vast majority of his money hidden in offshore accounts and under false identities
TDKR shit again? He's Bruce Wayne, nobody is willing to give him a loan? He has no insurance at all?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:18:14 No.115918947 Report

Quoted By: >>115918980

>>115918862
>bullshit
Seriously? We are talking about Lex fucking Luthor (power hungry maniac) staying in the same team for long with snobs like Superman or Wonder Woman
>>115918873
So you will use shitty examples aka (New-52 Jason) to defend your waifu, dyke?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:21:11 No.115918980 Report

Quoted By: >>115919409 >>115919547

>>115918947
>Seriously? We are talking about Lex fucking Luthor (power hungry maniac) staying in the same team for long with snobs like Superman or Wonder Woman
Oh how quickly we forget. You know what I remember around here? I remember people LOVING SuperLex, saying this was the character progression he desperately needed, and they were pissed that he went back to his old ways. This was a man the League, even Superman himself, gave a chance. The same man who has done more horrible things than Harley has ever done.

But no, you just want to stomp your feet and whine about Harley having a redemption/character progression. You can go shit on the terrible cartoon or Margret Robbie's vanity projects all you want, I won't stop you. But don't pretend you know jack shit about comics and argue with me about it

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:22:22 No.115918993 Report

Quoted By: >>115919034

>>115918946
No, he's a famous billionaire, yet somehow the gov't is ok with him having the entirety of his fortune stashed on an island. Ignore all the building, labs, factories and other stuff Wayne Industries has been shown to have in the States.
Basically Tynion has zero idea of how rich people work at all, so he's just making silly shit up.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:24:44 No.115919034 Report

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>>115918993
He probably thinks that Bezos' $150 billion is the entire value of Amazon, that if you stole that $150 billion, Bezos would be reduced to living in a cardboard box in an alleyway.

Brainlet writing is a proud Bat-tradition tho.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:25:03 No.115919042 Report

Quoted By: >>115919133

>>115918159
I like her too.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:27:48 No.115919082 Report

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>>115916740
>New 52 Batman series, it was hinted Joker may have learned that secret years ago. But there's a reason Joker has never acted on that information before now.
Didn't Joker straight up call him "Bruce" in Metal, when they fought the Batman who lmao's? And Batman shows him around the Batcave and Joker talks to Alfred or something. Or is that story not canon.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:28:58 No.115919103 Report

Quoted By: >>115919133

>>115918159
Nope, i like her too.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:29:07 No.115919107 Report

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>>115917684
Poor Geoff Johns just happens to keep running into artists that can't keep a deadline, it's not his fault, please understand
reminder that his last four big projects - Darkseid War, Rebirth, Clock and 3J all had delays

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:30:32 No.115919133 Report

Quoted By: >>115919192 >>115919239

>>115918159
>>115919042
>>115919103
What's to like?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:33:28 No.115919177 Report

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>>115917163
Harley originally thought of Joker as someone who was a tragic and conflicted man when in reality he was 100% evil

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:34:43 No.115919192 Report

Quoted By: >>115919430

>>115919133
The penis.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:36:22 No.115919222 Report

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>>115918063
>This whole character shift is fucking stupid.
it'll reset back to normal in a few years, everything with comics fucking does

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:37:30 No.115919239 Report

Quoted By: >>115919430

>>115919133
I like the concept of her being basically an over-the-top portrayal/parody of serial killer fangirls, and her design appeals to my inner edgelord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:38:46 No.115919265 Report

Quoted By: >>115919462

so how does this fit with the 3 jokers? or did that pass?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:45:07 No.115919366 Report

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>>115917027
Oh please, he could easily grab Creeper among other Gotham based metahumans who wouldn’t want Joker running the city like this.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:48:05 No.115919409 Report

Quoted By: >>115919441 >>115919599

>>115918980
You’d have to be completely retarded to think that SuperLex was permanent, it was nice in that the ultimate redemption of Lex Luthor is what people see as the ideal “ending” to Superman

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:49:26 No.115919430 Report

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>>115919192
oh...now I get it

>>115919239
I guess, seems like the insane fanboy trope could've been more interesting though, maybe it will be

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:50:28 No.115919441 Report

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>>115919409
people relate to the human more than the alien, go figure

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:51:50 No.115919462 Report

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>>115919265
Geoff Johns’s comics are no longer canon

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:52:54 No.115919479 Report

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>It is a war against Batman, but it's also a war against Bruce Wayne," Abernathy said. "Dating back, we did a three-issue prelude in Batman #85 last December and had that impact of The Joker, who knew who Bruce Wayne was, that he was connected to Batman, but the game always was against Batman, and Joker had never really moved against Bruce Wayne. But then a light bulb went on in that sequence to where The Joker, I don't want to say end game, but he saw a bigger picture and a bigger play, and how to basically wage war against Batman and Bruce Wayne."

>"I think James Tynion put it the best, in that Joker War is his final thesis on the battle between these two characters," Abernathy said. "So we have been building up the Joker War throughout the year with The Joker impacting some of the characters in the background at certain points, and the culmination of the fortune being taken in #93 is the tip of the iceberg of what's to come."

>Tynion kicks off Joker War by framing the battle between Batman and Joker in a way that is rather unique, which is saying something after so many years and stories featuring the two. Joker War is also looking to set up both characters for the future by analyzing them at their core, both at their highest and their lowest points.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:53:57 No.115919486 Report

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>"I came on as the Batman group editor in October," Abernathy said. "James was already working on Batman. He'd already been hired, but he and I had synchronized in a lot of ways to build out a plan that goes deep into the future, and Joker War is a bigger piece to the puzzle of what's to come. It's defining in a lot of ways for both characters."

>"Bruce has isolated himself through Their Dark Designs, but also since the death of Alfred, he's been carrying a lot of grief and a lot of personal sense of tragedy and responsibility for what has been happening," Abernathy said. "He finds himself in a very vulnerable moment and we've seen that through Their Dark Designs. Even including, I hope everyone checked out the Pennyworth RIP book that we did back in February, but The Joker's move comes at maybe the most vulnerable point Batman has been in quite some time."

>"I'm not going to pretend to be an expert of 81 years of history of Batman and then quote it, but this is, if not the, one of the pivotal moments of him as Batman," Abernathy said. "It's like a rebuild of Gotham and a rebrand of what his relationship is with the city, what the city can be. The reasons why he is doing it are starting to show. The cracks are starting to show with his relationship with Catwoman and the Bat-Family. Like I said, a lot of this grief, he's carrying over from the death of Alfred in the City of Bane."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:55:19 No.115919512 Report

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>"One of the elements that we see through Their Dark Designs in particular, and this isn't just the Batmobile because it's the Batwing too, is that as Batman and Bruce Wayne are working to rebuild Gotham in a lot of ways as we see through the first seven months. There are a lot of new toys. There's a lot of new gadgets," Abernathy said. He's got a new plane, he's got a new car. He had that Bat-Lounge we joked about that fired him out of the plane, and he slid down a building using magnets and stuff along those lines."

>"In a lot of ways, I don't want to say he's overcompensating with this vast amount of technology. He has the hibernaculum set up where he's got 3D printers building all of this stuff, but in some ways, that's not who Batman is at his core," Abernathy said. "He's not defined by the gadgets or the toys that he has, and that will come into play a lot in Joker War as well."

>Now, while The Designer has been a huge part of the series thus far, fans got the real story in issue #93 with the reveal that Designer was just a corpse, manipulated by Joker, who killed the villain way back during their first meeting. We asked if there is more coming for the character or the concept after this, but for the most part, it seems the road for Designer has truly come to an end, though there are some interesting threads to the character that will be explored a bit more.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:56:34 No.115919531 Report

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>"I will say, for the most part, The Designer is the character for Their Dark Designs because, and I'm quoting from Batman #85, the idea with The Joker is that he's refocusing on Bruce Wayne," Abernathy said. "The Designer's plan, what is revealed is his plan was to steal the wealth of the wealthiest family or man, or woman, or person in Gotham, which back then we have the first Jorge Jimenez issue, a flashback, I think it was #91, it wasn't necessarily the Waynes."

>"So they had this plan," Abernathy continued. "The Designer had this plan to utilize the four villains, that was ultimately a giant heist. The Joker has hijacked that as well as the identity of The Designer, which has now been revealed and succeeds in doing what that goal of that mission was, and we reveal that The Designer is dead. So we do not have plans for the future of The Designer, unless perhaps there are flashbacks or something along those lines, but we also have the character that we introduce in #94."

>"It is not a spoiler, but from the Jorge Jimenez issue, we reveal that The Designer was Moriarty," Abernathy said. "There was a great detective, a Sherlock Holmes type character and we see them sword fighting on blimps and on trains and stuff along those lines in flashbacks when The Designer was revealing his plan. So we get a glimpse of who that adversary was in #94, but there are no plans necessarily to spin out either of these characters for now, but they're great characters and they're great ideas. I've been a big Sherlock Holmes fan myself. I'm like, how do I do a series on this? Because this could be really fascinating to explore. But right now, they're specific to Their Dark Designs."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:57:07 No.115919547 Report

Quoted By: >>115919595 >>115919618

>>115918980
>The same man who has done more horrible things than Harley has ever done.

Lex's crimes are always wiped in reboots because Superman always starts over from scratch. Harley's crimes survived the jump to the Nu52 and even got worse, i.e. that early issue where she makes a bunch of cellphones or gameboys or whatever they were explode.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:59:29 No.115919595 Report

Quoted By: >>115919618 >>115919623

>>115919547
>at early issue where she makes a bunch of cellphones or gameboys or whatever they were explode.
She gave out free gameboys to kids around the city that had bombs and exploded when she updated them
Then Deadshot told her it wouldn't impress the Joker and she says she knows

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 21:59:42 No.115919599 Report

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>>115919409
>You’d have to be completely retarded to think that SuperLex was permanent
That's not the argument we're having you goalposting moving fuck.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:00:30 No.115919614 Report

Quoted By: >>115919637

>You can't talk about Joker War without talking about the newest Batman sensation, Punchline, who faces down Harley Quinn in issue #93. There's quite a bit more to come from her, and we had to ask about the early comparisons to Harley and how DC felt about the general reaction to the newest addition to the Batman mythos.

>"I love the character, Punchline. I know what you mean. A lot of people are like, 'Oh, she's like a fake Harley Quinn, or she's the new Harley Quinn,' which we knew obviously there was going to be that connection because she is the flip side to what Harley is," Abernathy said. One of the things that I stress to people is that Punchline is the third or fourth new character that we've introduced in James' Batman run, though she's definitely the one that has stuck out."

>"But regarding her development, James and I were very much on a wavelength of what we want to do and develop, and what we want to see within the title," Abernathy said. "When he first mentioned this character, Punchline, and then we talked about the origin and things along those lines, she was definitely a character that maybe on the surface when people see her design or when people run pages from Batman #92 or whatever, or Hell Arisen #3, the assumption is she's just some Harley Quinn knockoff or some '90s bad girl. You know what I mean? A replica or something along these lines, but we put a lot of thought into who Punchline is."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:00:48 No.115919618 Report

Quoted By: >>115919640

>>115919547
>>115919595
>Harley's crimes survived the jump to the Nu52 and even got worse, i.e. that early issue where she makes a bunch of cellphones or gameboys or whatever they were explode.
New 52 isn't canon anymore, and you dumb fucks keep citing that one tie-in one off because its the only argument you have.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:01:04 No.115919623 Report

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>>115919595
lol anyone got an image of this?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:01:57 No.115919635 Report

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>"It was the reason why with The Joker 80th, we reveal her origin pretty immediately because in a lot of ways, she's commentary on society today," Abernathy said. "If in a lot of ways you look back to the history of Batman, a lot of it was started with mobsters and organized crime, things along those lines. What we learned from the origin in Joker 80th is that she discovered through social media this ideology of The Joker, and it was something she was drawn to and was radicalized on the internet towards The Joker. We have more plans with that character going forward, and it'll be a study upon society today. So she is a character that I don't think we've seen the likes of in the Bat-Family in a long time, and her origin alone separates her from Harley Quinn in that sense."

>"She's not love-struck," Abernathy said. "She doesn't see an element of humanity that she wants to save. She is all in on, like I said, the ideology and the anarchy and what The Joker represents. So this is not some love-struck doctor who gets her mind unwrapped or whatever in Arkham Asylum. She knows what she's doing and she understands it, and we'll see that develop."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:02:07 No.115919637 Report

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>>115919614
>the newest Batman sensation
lmao

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:02:09 No.115919640 Report

Quoted By: >>115919669

>>115919618
>New 52 isn't canon anymore
It absolutely is canon
Rebirth wasn't a reboot, you colossal mongoloid

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:04:03 No.115919669 Report

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>>115919640
It was though. But okay, let's pretend it is for a minute; you guys keep citing a shitty issue tie-in to Forever Evil everyone panned, and has never been referenced again. Furthermore. New 52 Harley and current Harley are practically different characters at this point

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:04:07 No.115919670 Report

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>In Batman #85 fans got their first taste of what was to come in Tynion's run, and that focused on The Joker at a time when the character was as popular as ever. A hit movie and several stories focusing on the character were out on the market, and while the character will always be immensely popular, we had to ask if Joker fatigue ever factored into their decisions to make him the primary villain of the next run.

>"That's an excellent question. Coming on board, back in October when we started discussing the year and what was to come, with Their Dark Designs, there was already the idea that The Joker was going to be a big part of that and a growing part of that," Abernathy said. "We started talking directly about Joker War back in December and these plans and how we could tell a summer event that would connect and be built around The Joker. The Joker was a character that hadn't been featured as much, I'm trying to remember, in the '90s or '80s, some issues that Tom King had done. There was War of Jokes and Riddles and there were some great issues of The Joker and stuff, but Bane was much more of his big bad for a lot of those issues."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:05:13 No.115919692 Report

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>"Granted, we'd just come off a successful movie," Abernathy said. "Joker 80th was coming in the spring. So to me, it just made sense to do The Joker. He was this character that, publishing wise, we hadn't done a lot of Joker content with. In a lot of ways, it came naturally, as James was already building in that direction. To me, I didn't feel like there was a lot of Joker fatigue. It's like the version of the movie is not our version of the character necessarily. It was funny because as we were developing Joker 80th, and the inclusion of Punchline shows you how far out we were planning all this stuff to have the origin and stuff in there as well. It just all coalesced into the plan for Joker War."

>"And plus too, one of the things I wanted to see when I became the group editor was a further realignment, in a lot of ways, of the Bat-Family titles. Because through various editorial shifts and stuff, they were being handled by different groups, but one of the things I liked when I was reading as a kid, when you read Batman: No Man's Land or whatever, you got a sense that there was a connectivity to it all. In a lot of ways, Joker War helps with our tie-ins and stuff, which we'll have, Joker War is helping to realign or reconnect some of the titles to the main bat group."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:11:58 No.115919830 Report

Quoted By: >>115919891

I wonder who Jorge Jimenez based Punchline on, he seems to really, really love her.

https://twitter.com/JorgeJimenezArt/status/1276637614611861504

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:15:06 No.115919891 Report

Quoted By: >>115920019

>>115919830
asian goth he crushed on in high school who didn't give him attention

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:16:09 No.115919910 Report

Quoted By: >>115919953 >>115920279 >>115920304 >>115922039

Clownhunter and Punchline are both dead before this is over

The three Jokers won't be mentioned at all

This will somehow take place before and after DKMetal

Batman will somehow forget he has dozens of hidden stashes and batcaves

There's gonna be a handfisted anti-capitalism message jammed in for no reason

A Robin dies and we will be expected to be surprised (they come back 2 months later in a completely unrelated comic)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:18:23 No.115919953 Report

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>>115919910
>There's gonna be a handfisted anti-capitalism message jammed in for no reason
i dunno about no reason anon, do you not watch the news?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:21:20 No.115920019 Report

Quoted By: >>115921694

>>115919891
But Jorge is a chad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:34:04 No.115920279 Report

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>>115919910
>Clownhunter and Punchline are both dead before this is over
Clownhunter? Probably. Punchline? Nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:35:13 No.115920304 Report

Quoted By: >>115920732

>>115919910
Punchline is gonna stay, they are pushing her hard. Clownhunter is 100% dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:36:27 No.115920322 Report

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I'm kind of convinced Clowhunter is just going to end up as Joker's "Robin"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:39:37 No.115920388 Report

Quoted By: >>115920485 >>115921628

It seems like Abernathy doesn't really like Harley. Harlivyfags are spamming him for nothing, if anything they're making things worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:44:18 No.115920485 Report

Quoted By: >>115921628

>>115920388
They definitely hate them at DC. Look at this shit.
https://twitter.com/DCBatman/status/1276621256834588673

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 22:56:11 No.115920732 Report

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>>115920304
I can see Punchline breaking through, but I'm not sure about him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:16:29 No.115921182 Report

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You'd think a mass murder with billions of dollars and army holding a city hostage would warrant a military response.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:26:58 No.115921394 Report

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>>115918159
Nah man just like what you like

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:37:42 No.115921626 Report

Quoted By: >>115921659

>>115917094
Alexis Kaye

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:37:48 No.115921628 Report

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>>115920388
>>115920485
twitter spammers are not real people

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:38:47 No.115921648 Report

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>>115917150
I dunno, I actually kinda like him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:39:14 No.115921659 Report

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>>115921626
I'm in love with Alexis!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:40:14 No.115921674 Report

Quoted By: >>115921941

>>115916574
Oh joy. MORE Batman and Joker. Are people ever going to just stop being obsessed with these two and let their grimdark grimderp way of storytelling keep poisoning DC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:41:07 No.115921694 Report

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>>115920019
Then an asian goth he bullied in high school but never made a move on her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:52:08 No.115921941 Report

Quoted By:

>>115921674
There's demand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:53:16 No.115921960 Report

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>>115917125
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jun 2020 23:57:33 No.115922039 Report

Quoted By: >>115922096

>>115919910

I get the feeling Clownhunter will kill the Joker and be killed himself. Is anyone else getting that vibe of that being the entire point of his character?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Jun 2020 00:00:27 No.115922096 Report

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>>115922039
>killing the Joker
Bro. BRO.

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