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Anonymous Mon 25 May 14:30:43 2020 No.115227991 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>115228056 >>115228950 >>115228994

>Mad Hatter
>White Rabbit
>Alice
>Tweedledum
>Tweedledee

Why does Batman have so many Alice-in-Wonderland themed villains /co/?

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 14:35:40 No.115228056 Report

Quoted By: >>115228074 >>115228801 >>115228910 >>115229160

>>115227991
Real answer; public domain characters. You also left out the rest of the Wonderland Gang
>Carpenter
>Unicorn
>Walrus
>March Hare
Kind of sucks about the treatment Jervis gets. Great gimmick, thematically appropriate to mirror an aspect of Batman's character and what do we get? Either a joke or a pedo. Mad Hatter is one of those villains that unimaginative writers screwed over, much like Toyman

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 14:37:42 No.115228074 Report

Quoted By: >>115228129 >>115229313

>>115228056

Damn forgot about those.

Surprisingly we don’t have a Queen of Hearts villain in DC yet.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 14:42:15 No.115228129 Report

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>>115228074
I actually toyed around with the idea of Mad Hatter getting a "Red Queen" type character before, similar to how Lex has Mercy or Joker had Harley (now Punchline). More specifically, the character was to be 3 personalities in one; Alice, The Queen, and the woman she used to be thus exploring the Ego, Superego, and Id.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:30:45 No.115228801 Report

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>>115228056
I never understood why they never gave toyman a role within Luthor's enterprise. I'd say he's very similar to the Tinkerer, except toy themed. And he doesn't have to JUST build toys. Maybe he uses his theme when it's for himself and just builds whatever Luthor wants.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:37:23 No.115228905 Report

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Because he's fucking insane

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:37:34 No.115228910 Report

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>>115228056
>Unicorn
>Walrus
>March Hare
These are just Goon's though.
Tweedledee, Tweedledum, and carpenter manage to carve out personalities over the years. But the other really are just recycle goon from other Gotham gangs who seem to join the wonderland as the next gig

The wonderland needs a proper leader, Mad Hatter doesn't work as a leader. He's too crazy, his goals are too personal for a gang. They need a clear direction like a red Queen who maybe makes them more into a heist group.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:39:12 No.115228929 Report

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>>115228910
Here's a reference for those who aren't aware of the other three

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:40:31 No.115228946 Report

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>>115228910
>Mad Hatter doesn't work as a leader. He's too crazy
That’s why you rework him as a proper control freak instead of a fully crazed deluded loon

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:40:37 No.115228950 Report

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>>115227991
It's a popular public domain icon of madness that can be amped up to whatever gritty or surreal themes that the author in question wants.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:42:59 No.115228993 Report

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>>115228950
what part of bioshock is this?

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:43:02 No.115228994 Report

Quoted By: >>115229089

>>115227991
everyone besides Hatter should be disregarded

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:45:55 No.115229026 Report

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>>115228946
If I had to, I'd do blackmail. That the wonderland gang was essentially a bad idea for everyone involved some move past it some kept their personas, but basically they're all over it.

Then one day they all get a visit from mad hatter, who put a chip on them collecting their secrets. So he tells them one last jobber then we're done. Only it's not one last jobber each mission leads to another. Ultimately leading to a take over of Gotham as one big wonderland.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:49:41 No.115229089 Report

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>>115228994
But the carpenter a cute. A cute! Jokes aside she fills in an essential plot hole of
>how do villains fix their lairs after Batman trashes them.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:52:09 No.115229135 Report

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>>115229026
Don't like the angle. Mad Hatter should employ people in one of two ways; offering fantasies, or simply mind control the ones who can't be bought. Jervis should be a peddler of desires, controlled delusions where people can live out their wildest dreams thanks to drugs and equipment.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:53:48 No.115229160 Report

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>>115228056
I’m surprised Dini finally got to introduce them to DCAU canon and they only made a cameo instead of getting their own issue.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:57:49 No.115229239 Report

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>>115229135
I just want the wonderland gang to exist as people not under mind control or drugged up. I just want a villain theme gang who besides hatter, seem to be aware of how silly their concept is.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 15:58:52 No.115229262 Report

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>>115229239
Having The Wonderland Gang and Mad Hatter has separate entities is retarded

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 16:01:18 No.115229313 Report

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>>115228074
>>115228129
There usually is a Queen of Hearts but she's usually part of the Royal Flush Gang.

The Queen of Fables, a Wonder Woman villain mainly, might count too.

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Anonymous Mon 25 May 2020 16:02:36 No.115229335 Report

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>>115229313
Then it's better to call her The Red Queen, which is more accurate to the book anyway

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