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Anonymous Tue 12 May 20:00:49 2020 No.114926383 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>114926394 >>114926433 >>114926451 >>114926555 >>114926676 >>114927282 >>114930110 >>114936858 >>114944272 >>114947363

5G is 5Gone Edition.
Which probably means we're stuck with the current status quo indefinitely, for better or worse.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Discuss your feelings on this, ongoing and upcoming storylines in BG, BatO, or YJ, and anything else Batgirls-related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:01:34 No.114926394 Report

Quoted By: >>114926589

>>114926383
I want to rape Stephanie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:04:02 No.114926433 Report

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>>114926383
Now Now, there's still room for the timeline to finally be straightened out and for Cass's history to be restored. The only parts of 5G that needed to to be cancelled was the semi-real timeline and the fifth generation part.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:05:30 No.114926451 Report

Quoted By: >>114926663 >>114927371 >>114928228 >>114929151

>>114926383
so what's with people hating so much barbara gordon as batgirl but liking her so much more as oracle?
i've never really bothered with the oracle stuff so i'd like to know

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:11:54 No.114926555 Report

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>>114926383
I wish more people would remember to include Betty. She's always being forgotten or left out

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:12:58 No.114926568 Report

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>>114926555

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:14:01 No.114926585 Report

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>>114926568

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:14:11 No.114926589 Report

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>>114926394
You're violating the restraining order, Sionis.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:14:51 No.114926608 Report

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>>114926589
She moaned like a whore while it happened.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:15:04 No.114926612 Report

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>>114926585

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:16:09 No.114926623 Report

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:18:52 No.114926663 Report

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>>114926451
I think it's because post Flashpoint writers gave her a lot of Stephanie's characteristics, making one of them redundant. Before that Barbara was mature buta little cocky and also best friends with Supergirl pre-crisis. So really it's more of an issue of characterization. Me personally I like them both.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:19:40 No.114926676 Report

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>>114926383
Cassandra is Best Girl

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:33:58 No.114926907 Report

Quoted By: >>114940430 >>114948852

That time Cass met Bette.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 20:55:50 No.114927282 Report

Quoted By: >>114927823

>>114926383
I don't know about that anon...
we've seen trickledown effects at the very least of something going on at DC. B&O feels like it's nearing an end. Whether that means the series will end or not is up in the air.

To add that Stephanie's time as Batgirl was removed, but it seems Hill has been making a point about Cass with her lost time as Batgirl and even Shiva pointing this fact out.

Something is gonna give.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:00:04 No.114927371 Report

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>>114926451
Classic Babsgirl and Oracle aren't all that different. Oracle just has a little extra "her smile and optimism: gone" going on.
It's this new generically spunky but not enough of an underdog to be engaging Babsgirl that annoys people.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:01:09 No.114927394 Report

Quoted By: >>114931640

We need a Batgirls team book. Cass and Steph independantly decide to become Batgirl on their own, run into each other during a case. Babs is on their ass because "How DARE you!", and after a brief scuffle amongst themselves they're interrupted by the bad guys and put aside their differences to work together. Babs then takes them under her wing, becomes the den mother, and... THEY FIGHT CRIME!!! With Bette joining soon after

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:24:27 No.114927823 Report

Quoted By: >>114927933 >>114928055 >>114928953 >>114930896

>>114927282
I loved this speech, but it strikes me as odd that Bruce is being blamed for not "letting" Cass be Batgirl. He's certainly to blame for withholding the symbol from her (since that's apparently the in-universe reason she can't have one), but Batgirl's never been under his direct supervision and guidance the way Robin is, and as such has never been his to give or take. It was Barbara who gave Cass the blessing in NML, and while Bruce was pulling the strings on Steph's appointment to Batgirl, it was ultimately Cass' choice to follow his will or ignore it.
So, basically, Batgirl isn't "his" and Bruce can't "make" anyone Batgirl, whether he wants to or not. At the moment the ball's in Babs' court, and she's not in much of a position to want to part with the cowl, so we're stuck.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:29:42 No.114927933 Report

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>>114927823
I liked that she did it for the sake of Steph's character development. She knew it was something her friend needed, and I'd like to think following Bruce's plan was motivated more by her friendship with Steph than anything else. They're just so cute together, is all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:34:20 No.114928055 Report

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>>114927823
I think it's due to the fact that Bruce knows that there are shenanigans going on (ala with what happened to Tim/Steph) and knows that something happened with Cass.

But-- while he allowed Tim/Steph to do their own things, he hasn't really done that with Cass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:42:23 No.114928228 Report

Quoted By: >>114928786

>>114926451
I think it's mostly resentment over Nu52 allowing all Robins to exist at some point, but retconning Barbara to be the one and only Batgirl. Also, Didio's hateboner of Steph and Cass that peaked in pettiness when he veto'd Steph's appearance in the Smallville comic in favor of last-minute Babs. Also, this >>114926663, especially in other media where Barbara is given more of Steph's characterization.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:43:19 No.114928249 Report

Quoted By: >>114928265

Cass is shit. She’s poo.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:44:12 No.114928265 Report

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>>114928249
fuck off Dan

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 21:44:32 No.114928271 Report

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>>114927933
It is very sweet. It's a shame the exchange didn't result in some real character development for Cass too, but she'd probably already had as full of an arc as she was going to with the Batgirl identity, and Steph still needed that final push to finish hers.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:13:25 No.114928786 Report

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>>114928228
It sent me to another fucking dimension when last week's HQ confirmed there were other Robins before Damian. Usually she's at least ahead of the literal child, if nothing else.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:17:51 No.114928871 Report

Quoted By: >>114928992

What about Batwinks?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:21:49 No.114928953 Report

Quoted By: >>114929242 >>114929250

>>114927823

More like the writer is reusing old plots from New 52 and DCYou. We've had Oracle and now they're redoing "Death of the Family" even with James Jr.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:23:41 No.114928992 Report

Quoted By: >>114930283 >>114930534

>>114928871
Make a Batboys thread if you want one, Anon. It'll get hijacked by Damifag, but that's just the way it goes.
Caroline Hill can stay though.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:29:55 No.114929107 Report

Quoted By: >>114929139 >>114936330

post rare babs

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:30:52 No.114929139 Report

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>>114929107
I've only watched the shorts so far, but I liked this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:31:36 No.114929151 Report

Quoted By: >>114948810

>>114926451
Barbara is fine in AUs where she is essentially starting at her origin. In contrast, her going from Oracle back to Batgirl is like seeing Dick Grayson going from an adult Nightwing back to a teenaged Robin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:36:20 No.114929242 Report

Quoted By: >>114929364

>>114928953
>We've had Oracle
The fat they've repurposed Oracle for an evil robot really pisses me off. It's clear they have no respect for what oracle represented or an intention to properly replace either her role as the Birds of Prey's mission control or a positive example of disabled representation.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:36:52 No.114929250 Report

Quoted By: >>114929364 >>114937426

>>114928953
Every time they have something good with James Jr. they fuck it up. And I'm not talking about this new arc throwing away the redemption, I'm talking about the redemption throwing away him being Babs' Hannibal. Could've been fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:42:38 No.114929364 Report

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>>114929242

And even then it's even more petty than the DCYou version which served as a mcguffin to save her when the "final" villain erased her mind.

>>114929250

Yeah, that or the Batman who Lols being the cause of his madness. Nope, we're back to square one again from the New 52.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:45:05 No.114929408 Report

Quoted By: >>114929586

>>114927933
It just kind of sucked that Bruce was like "give up the thing you care about most" without any real regard for how Cass would feel about that. Which was apparently "bad," because she fucked off to Hong Kong to live as a nameless vigilante with no contact with any of her former allies for about a year.

But that was during an era where basically no one cared about Cass, not even the characters that she was closest to in the books.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 22:54:18 No.114929586 Report

Quoted By: >>114929765 >>114929783

>>114929408
To be fair, it was a contingency to be put into place in the event of his death, and I'd assume he was expecting Cass to be at least a little older and more ready to make something uniquely her own when that happened. But yeah, still a dick move. If part 2 of that plan had been asking her to become the new Batman in his absence, then it'd be more acceptable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:04:54 No.114929765 Report

Quoted By: >>114929803

>>114929586
Ultimately, it was a shitty retcon to try to make sense of Cass giving up her identity that still didn't make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:05:53 No.114929783 Report

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>>114929586
>If part 2 of that plan had been asking her to become the new Batman in his absence, then it'd be more acceptable.
That always seemed like Cass's endgame regardless because of how much she wanted it. She would probably even put the mission before Bruce himself. The symbol has such a deep meaning for Cass, probably because it means much more than anything she can describe with words. While it would be psychologically healthier for her to leave crime fighting and violence altogether, the bat is something she wants. And her taking it up in spite of Barbara and Bruce would be a great step towards reaffirming her identity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:06:56 No.114929803 Report

Quoted By: >>114929929

>>114929765

Better than the original excuse. But to be fair Miller was put into a corner with editorial with three orders.

#1 Cass couldn't be Batgirl anymore and write her out of Gotham.
#2 Steph had to be Batgirl.
#3 Babs had to mentor her and get out of the funk she was in because of BoP's end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:14:46 No.114929929 Report

Quoted By: >>114930020 >>114930046

>>114929803
>and write her out of Gotham
This is the part that gets me. Why? Pure malice?
From a writing standpoint, sure, Steph can't have her badass best friend there to lean on because she has to prove herself capable on her own. But I doubt that's the standpoint they were working from.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:20:01 No.114930020 Report

Quoted By: >>114930122 >>114930534

>>114929929
I always get events confused, did Cass go full Shiva lite before or after giving Steph the suit?

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:21:14 No.114930046 Report

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>>114929929

Considering what happened to both Cass/Steph in New 52. Yes, pure malice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:24:58 No.114930110 Report

Quoted By: >>114930169 >>114930297

>>114926383
Ok, I only know Barbara Gordon, but who’s the blonde and the Asian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:25:19 No.114930122 Report

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>>114930020
If you mean when she got SLADED, before, during One Year Later. Steph wasn't even back from the dead yet at that point. Then Cass got a mini-series trying to mop all that shit up, which wasn't very well received. Then comes Steph's Batgirl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:28:53 No.114930169 Report

Quoted By: >>114941080 >>114941645

>>114930110
Blonde is Stephanie Brown, Tim Drake's ex, AKA: Spoiler, Robin and Batgirl. Asian is Cassandra Cain, Daughter of Lady Shiva, and should be the Kato to Bruce's Green Hornet except having her outclass him as a fighter makes him redundant, but only because writers a DC aren't creative.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:36:24 No.114930283 Report

Quoted By: >>114930319

>>114928992
Literally who?

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:37:27 No.114930297 Report

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>>114930110
Asian is Batgirl II (III, in Bette Anon's heart), Cassandra Cain, daughter of of past-his-prime assassin David Cain, who raised her to speak only with body language, not words. As a result, she's one of the best martial artists in the DCU. She's introduced in the No Man's Land event, and subsequently becomes something of a daughter figure to Batman and Oracle. Eventually her biological mother is revealed to be Lady Shiva. Other identities of hers include Black Bat, and most recently Orphan.
Blonde is Batgirl III (or IV), Stephanie Brown, daughter of the villainous Cluemaster, whose only real claim to fame at this point is being her father. She spent many years as the underdog, outcast vigilante Spoiler, aptly named after her desire to spoil her dad's schemes, until she finally got her big break when she became Robin. Then she died. But she got better, and became Batgirl, so it worked out. Until it didn't when the universe relaunched and set her back to Spoiler. So it goes.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:39:30 No.114930319 Report

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>>114930283

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:49:46 No.114930534 Report

Quoted By: >>114930621

>>114928992
> implying Damifag doesn't show up in these threads too.>>114930020

We never really know really. We see a dream of Cass acting all Shiva-like telling Steph don't follow her.

But next we find out her and Tim are being all chummy.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:53:55 No.114930621 Report

Quoted By: >>114930681 >>114930838

>>114930534
>> implying Damifag doesn't show up in these threads too.
Oh, she does. Usually it's less spammy though. A "Barbara is the only Batgirl that matters" here, a "Cass Caine is shit" there, and we all move on with our day. Robin threads get some scorched earth level shit.

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Anonymous Tue 12 May 2020 23:57:23 No.114930681 Report

Quoted By: >>114930971 >>114931095 >>114948453

>>114930621
why are robin threads ground zero for inane shit flinging, is it women?

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:01:50 No.114930776 Report

Quoted By: >>114930838 >>114932434

>>114927933
I'm really hurt that Cass and Steph don't really interact anymore. Cass is better friends with Duke and Clayface now than Steph, and that ain't right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:04:55 No.114930838 Report

Quoted By: >>114930900 >>114930966 >>114931995 >>114935491 >>114953654

>>114930621

Oh yes, I've seen the attacks against Cass, Jason, and Tim fans being their common retort. >>114930776
Have hope. If Kuhn/Goux get a Shadow of the Batgirl sequel, Cass/Steph is what they wanna tackle in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:07:41 No.114930896 Report

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>>114927823
One nice thing about this is that even though they largely dropped the steph/Cass friendship in the last decade, this goes to show that Cass probably cares more about her than Tim.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:07:49 No.114930900 Report

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>>114930838
That'd be cool, but I also want them to be friends again in the main continuity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:10:10 No.114930940 Report

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It really is bewildering they stuck to their guns with Babs as Batgirl since the New 52. They even brouhht back her awful mask costume that must suck out Jim’s iq whenever he looks at it and not know Batgirl is his daughter. I liked Babs in her Year One story, but dropped Burnside after one volume since it felt like a different character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:11:43 No.114930966 Report

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>>114930838
If that spoiler is true, I might just double dip and buy the kindle version now and order the book later for my shelf. Really odd I haven’t read it yet.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:12:00 No.114930971 Report

Quoted By: >>114931060 >>114931180 >>114931475

>>114930681
If I had to guess, Batgirls fans can probably exist in harmony because the Batgirls do as well. There's no reason to shit-fling when the characters in question are all friends who have a history of helping each other become better and more interesting people. Aside from occasional squabbling over Babsgirl VS Oracle, there's just not much to argue about.
The Robins are... not like that. Dick has good relationships with Damian and Tim, and that's just about the only positivity to speak of. Characters who hate each other breed fans who hate each other, basically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:16:06 No.114931060 Report

Quoted By: >>114931553

>>114930971

Not to mention all three characters have been dumped on by DC itself, and we can all relate to the handling of each character as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:17:49 No.114931095 Report

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>>114930681
There's this one retard who has an alert any time anyone mentions the Robins so she can go off on how Tim is boring and Jason is a pedophile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:21:37 No.114931180 Report

Quoted By: >>114931508

>>114930971
I’d second this. Oracle served as a mentor figure to both Cass and Steph in their respective tenures as Batgirl, as well as Cass and Steph being friends, which would result in quite a bit of overlap in the fans of the characters. I think only Damian and Dick have a similar situation of an ex-Robin mentoring the current one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:34:29 No.114931475 Report

Quoted By: >>114931553 >>114931640

>>114930971
There's some bad blood between the Batgirl fans, like the Cass fans over how Steph's book wrote her out of the Bat-world, or the Steph fans over Babs coming back and stealing some of Steph's shtick. But most can put it aside in favor of wanting a book starring all three that DC will never give us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:35:44 No.114931508 Report

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>>114931180
Good point. The Batgirls are able to be a nice little pseudo-family who all care about each other, but the Robins, probably for the increased proximity to Bruce and all his dysfunction, really don't get that kind of treatment very often.
Dick storms off to Bludhaven, which results in Jason being an "only child," then he dies, which results in Tim being one, then Tim gets chased off by Damian, which results in Damian being one, since Dick is arguably more paternal than brotherly. It's a mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:37:49 No.114931553 Report

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>>114931475
True. But like >>114931060 says, there's still a kind of empathy no matter which Batgirl you favor, because they've all been robbed and cast aside at one point or another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:41:19 No.114931640 Report

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>>114931475
>>114927394
Making them all Batgirl is the best way to solve this, methinks.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 00:57:30 No.114931995 Report

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>>114930838
>spoiler
Yes please. I wonder if they'd use Steph's New 52 origin where she also lives in a library to hide from her dad (small world), or invent something fresh.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 01:20:00 No.114932434 Report

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>>114930776
Steph's just sooo busy being Tim's emotional support girlfriend, y'know? Sigh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 01:31:01 No.114932649 Report

Quoted By: >>114932868

Steph is the only good one

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 01:42:49 No.114932868 Report

Quoted By: >>114933005

>>114932649
You’re never gonna find a bigger detractor of that statement than Steph herself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 01:50:17 No.114933005 Report

Quoted By: >>114933172

>>114932868
Which makes her best girl because Babs is a stuck up whore and Cassie is perpetually emo.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 01:57:56 No.114933172 Report

Quoted By: >>114933225

>>114933005
Can’t argue with Babs being stuck-up (though I find it endearing), but Cass is more multi-faceted than some people think. She can be optimistic, funny, and straight-up cocky.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 02:00:54 No.114933225 Report

Quoted By: >>114933600 >>114934109

>>114933172
Cass is a treasure. And she plays off well against Steph and Babs. I really feel like we're missing out the longer they're apart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 02:19:45 No.114933600 Report

Quoted By: >>114933920

>>114933225
And missing out for what? Babs creating a love triangle for herself and Steph getting a line or two per issue because of how bloated YJ’s cast is? Ugh. At least Cass is getting some quality mother-daughter time.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 02:36:43 No.114933920 Report

Quoted By: >>114934826

>>114933600
>And missing out for what? Babs creating a love triangle for herself and Steph

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 02:40:33 No.114933994 Report

Quoted By: >>114934137

>>114926663
Honestly Harper stole more of Steph’s personality than Babs did. It was just hard to tell because by the time Babs and Steph started interacting again, the leeching was already complete and Steph was just another well-off peppy girl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 02:45:58 No.114934109 Report

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>>114933225
DC even did an official blog post about their friendship, so they know. They just won't do anything about it. Though now that The Great Darkness that was Didio is gone, who knows.

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2018/05/29/relationship-roundup-stephanie-brown-and-cassandra-cain

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 02:47:58 No.114934137 Report

Quoted By: >>114934153 >>114934451

>>114933994
>just another well-off peppy girl.

Steph has been through some shit. Yet her smile persists in spite of it. Mainly because she's a gusty little cuss and doesn't want the hardship to beat her. She's stubborn, and charming, and funny, and will always reach for that bit of sunshine. Because she knows well what lurks in the dark and it's just not in herself to let it consume her.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 02:49:01 No.114934153 Report

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 03:06:00 No.114934451 Report

Quoted By: >>114934859 >>114950609

>>114934137
Steph should be cheerful, but I think it’s important to contrast it with those occasional moments of anger, insecurity, and deadpan “are you seeing this shit”ness. Most of the writers that have handled her post-Flashpoint seem to only be able to do one or the other.
Great summary, by the way. Steph’s the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 03:29:54 No.114934826 Report

Quoted By: >>114934904

>>114933920
Could’ve been a proper Babs-likes-Steph-likes-Nick-likes-Babs kind of triangle for how uninterested Babs seemed in him. He’d still be better than Bard though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 03:32:16 No.114934859 Report

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>>114934451
I also like how she can switch to Straight-Man whenever she has somebody sunnier than herself. It's fun.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 03:32:35 No.114934866 Report

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 03:35:29 No.114934904 Report

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>>114934826
He's too much of a cop, and Babs was working through some shit. The timing was off, but I still think it could have been fun if the book had gone on longer. At this point, anyone is better than Jason Bard. Especially Killer Moth!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 03:36:47 No.114934920 Report

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 04:03:12 No.114935269 Report

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 04:22:37 No.114935491 Report

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>>114930838
Where have they actually talked about their plans for a sequel?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 04:51:08 No.114935869 Report

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>>114934866
Not my favorite toon Babs, but the hyperactive gremlin's starting to grow on me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 05:23:22 No.114936330 Report

Quoted By: >>114936793

>>114929107
The rarest bab from SHG would be casual clothes, hood down, showing off that long red hair.
That hood is a fucking crime, if she were in Gotham, Batman would be having a word with her about it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 06:08:55 No.114936793 Report

Quoted By: >>114938050

>>114936330
No the hoodie is the best, is how she gets her bat ears they are very important for her design, however there are good alternatives that show her hair

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 06:14:21 No.114936858 Report

Quoted By: >>114938144

>>114926383
Is it true? is 5G cancelled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 07:15:59 No.114937426 Report

Quoted By: >>114939760 >>114944249

>>114929250
>visits Jr.
>gets semen thrown on her

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 08:17:45 No.114938050 Report

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>>114936793
Nothing against the hoodie, except that she always has the hood up.
Just pull it down during class, not a single fucking teacher at any of my schools would let that shit fly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 08:27:09 No.114938144 Report

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>>114936858
Part of it is apparently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 11:44:22 No.114939760 Report

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>>114937426
Hot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 12:58:13 No.114940430 Report

Quoted By: >>114940724

>>114926907
What did she mean by this, in-universe? Was she still Bat(-)Girl unofficially at some point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 13:27:05 No.114940724 Report

Quoted By:

>>114940430
Maybe?

Hypertime was going on during the period.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 13:58:14 No.114941080 Report

Quoted By: >>114941447

>>114930169
>Cassandra Cain, Daughter of Lady Shiva,
this trigfgers me something friece.

Cass is DAVID CAIN's daughter, not Lady Shiva's

For all purposes and intents, Shiva was nothing more than a egg donator, she's been completely absent and utterly irrelevant to Cass growing up, both pre- and post-new52

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 14:29:54 No.114941447 Report

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>>114941080
It sucks. Cass and Shiva had something great already and a familial relationship didn’t really add anything worthwhile to it. And now they’ve used it as an excuse to kill off Cain and make her the complicated villain parent instead because...? I don’t wanna say it’s because abusive parenting only gets a pass when a woman does it, but there’s a pattern with how Snyder and Tynion handled the issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 14:42:58 No.114941645 Report

Quoted By: >>114941777

>>114930169
She can't outclass Bruce as a fighter if he has a hundred pound muscle advantage on her. It doesnt matter what her skill advantage supposedly is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 14:55:49 No.114941777 Report

Quoted By: >>114941804

>>114941645
1. Cass' body is 100% toned solid, elastic, toned muscle mass.
She probably weights twice as much as Steph.

2. Comic Books. Karate Kid is a baseline human who, using MARTIAL ARTS can hurt Silver Age Superboy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 14:57:16 No.114941804 Report

Quoted By: >>114942622 >>114943121

>>114941777
Steph weighs more. Cass looks like she’s 100 pounds soaking wet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 14:57:26 No.114941808 Report

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How tight is Cass's pussy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 15:11:37 No.114942020 Report

Quoted By: >>114942187

Is not fair super bros why does bruce get all the cute ones, all we got is kara and the other kara with big tiddies, jon needs a little sister or lex should make another clone but a girl i dunno

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 15:25:15 No.114942187 Report

Quoted By: >>114943627

>>114942020
There's about as many Supergirls as there are Batgirls.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 15:54:08 No.114942622 Report

Quoted By: >>114943640

>>114941804
Only when she's trying to contain her power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 16:25:48 No.114943121 Report

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>>114941804
Muscle mass weights much more than fat mass.

And Cass only has fat in her boobs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 16:29:13 No.114943170 Report

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 16:34:54 No.114943254 Report

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 16:58:36 No.114943627 Report

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>>114942187
Too bad Matrix, Linda, and Cir are never coming back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 16:59:26 No.114943640 Report

Quoted By: >>114944309

>>114942622
Damn, I really liked this buff Cass, shame most artist don't define muscles so much on female characters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:35:02 No.114944249 Report

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>>114937426
Who would do such a thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:36:29 No.114944272 Report

Quoted By: >>114944615 >>114944641

>>114926383
There's no proof 5g is gone just pulled back a month

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:37:33 No.114944291 Report

Quoted By: >>114944424 >>114945239

>>114926433
Super bummed that they referenced Cass and Steph's history as Batgirls in Tynion's Tec run yet nothing has come of it so far.

Cass deserves to wear the Bat again. I miss her father/daughter dynamic with Bruce. Made thematic sense, too, but now Bruce is okay with her basically being homeless and living in dilapidated attics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:38:24 No.114944309 Report

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>>114943640
I've commissioned a bunch of art of buff Cass, so at least there's that option. But canonically she's probably more like Bruce Lee: ripped, and when she spreads her lats she pushes her costume to the limits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:45:27 No.114944424 Report

Quoted By: >>114944462

>>114944291
He did get her an apartment, which isn't too different from when he got her her own Cave in her Batgirl run to separate her and Oracle. She just didn't really like it enough to use it. She might be living in the manor now though? I dunno, not much domesticity happens in Outsiders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:47:07 No.114944462 Report

Quoted By: >>114944662

>>114944424
Haven't read Outsiders because I was burnt out on so many Batbooks coming out, but if Cass is treated better there, then I'll take a look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:54:56 No.114944615 Report

Quoted By: >>114946464

>>114944272
There's a tweet that Tynion is on Batman beyond #100, when that was supposed to be the issue when Luke Fox takes over as Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:56:07 No.114944641 Report

Quoted By: >>114946464

>>114944272
Also, it appears DiDio ruffled a lot of feathers with his 5G pushing (hence why he was axed).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 17:57:18 No.114944662 Report

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>>114944462
Hill definitely loves the character, and with the way he's building it up, something's going to give with this Orphan shit. It's just a matter of if he has enough sway to get her a Bat where Tynion couldn't (which I doubt, based on where Tynion is now), or if his solution is gonna be making her walk away and disown the Bat like Stephanie did.
If it's the latter:

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 18:33:51 No.114945239 Report

Quoted By: >>114945422 >>114945473

>>114944291
Ironically, the fact that she isn’t an orphan might be what’s stopping Bruce and Cass from really connecting. Originally their relationship grew and developed under the assumption that Cain had adopted her and her birth parents, if they were alive, would never be known. That’s all long since gone out the window.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 18:47:21 No.114945422 Report

Quoted By: >>114945501 >>114945609

>>114945239
I don't think them being orphans is what allowed them to connect, it was Cass's single-minded devotion to the mission that made her similar to Bruce. That and being fundamentally broken by her childhood, whereas most of the other bats at the time were relatively well-adjusted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 18:49:50 No.114945473 Report

Quoted By: >>114945609 >>114946075

>>114945239
I guess the main point of contention here would be that Bruce had good parents and lost them, while Cass had a father figure (later turned actual father) that was shit, abusive, and basically robbed her of anything resembling a happy childhood. Being an orphan isn't what brings them together. It's what they lack. Bruce is a father figure and has a natural tendency to wanting to protect the innocent and he did so with Dick and Jason initially. Cass would be a continuation of that where she has had no parental guidance and therefore no sense of right from wrong and is traumatized to the point of not being able to speak. Being trained to read movements and not speech in your most formative years is abuse and trauma considering the person training would be robbing the child of any means of communication and basically turned them into a killing machine.

Cass is a wayward soul who began to heal in her Batgirl run and made great strides to. She even got some of that back in Tynion's Tec, though I can't say much for Hill's Outsiders since I haven't read it. A lot of Bruce and Cass connecting was in his protectiveness of her from Cain and understanding of her struggle. Cass connected with Bruce as a father figure because he was actually a father who gave her the chance to do good willingly instead of evil, unknowingly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 18:50:42 No.114945488 Report

Quoted By: >>114945519 >>114945520

Cass being silent kung fu robot was dumb. Also being drawn as fully Japanese when she is hapa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 18:51:41 No.114945501 Report

Quoted By: >>114945725

>>114945422
This just makes me wonder if there were any meaningful Cass and Damian interactions. I think Cass would be able to whoop his ass but that's probably because I like seeing Damian getting humbled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 18:53:01 No.114945519 Report

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>>114945488
I really don't think Western artists including Asian-Americans really know how to draw different Asian people.

And she grew out of being a silent kung fu robot. I don't think that was ever meant to stick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 18:53:00 No.114945520 Report

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>>114945488
I like Cass to be a silent kung fu robot as the starting point and work her character from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 18:58:16 No.114945609 Report

Quoted By:

>>114945422
>>114945473
To be clear, I wasn’t suggesting Bruce and Cass are ONLY able to connect under the assumption they’re both orphans. If that was the case he’d share the same kind of immediate and innate understanding that he has of her with all the others, which he doesn’t, because there’s so much more there. But the current Shiva situation creates this kind of barrier where Bruce can’t really empathize and understand what she’s going through, and Cass has no intention of opening up about it the way she once did about Cain, so their relationship has just kinda fizzled, unfortunately.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 19:06:14 No.114945725 Report

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>>114945501
They met in Gates of Gotham. Prior to that meeting, Damian suggested in Steph’s Batgirl book that he’d like to meet her, and would greatly prefer her to Stephanie. He was wrong. Pretty much the second she comes back to town and demonstrates a casual amicability with the others, Damian goes full competitive “what’s so great about you? I’m the one who deserves this acceptance” mode. Not unlike his relationship with Tim, except Cass is the bigger person and just takes it.
Post-Flashpoint, she has in fact whooped his ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 19:28:56 No.114946075 Report

Quoted By: >>114946286 >>114946356 >>114946410

>>114945473
>Cass had a father figure (later turned actual father) that was shit, abusive, and basically robbed her of anything resembling a happy childhood
we talking about New52 Cain, right?

Because as fucked up as he was, OG Cain managed to be a decent parent to Cass.
She was shown being happy with his as her father-figure.
For all purposes and intents, she was never an orphan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 19:43:01 No.114946286 Report

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>>114946075
It was annoying when later issues of her series changed the tune to “he never let me touch him, only fighting” when earlier issues had literal rose-tinted flashbacks to the contrary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 19:46:38 No.114946356 Report

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>>114946075
we'll never have old cass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 19:49:47 No.114946410 Report

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>>114946075
He wasn't a decent parent, he was an abusive monster that just happened to love Cass, and she loved him because she didn't know any better. Yeah, they had tender moments, but Cain also intentionally stunted her development, routinely beat her or had others beat her, shot her as part of her training, etc.

Part of the complexity of their original relationship comes from the fact that he was an objectively terrible parent, yet still loves Cass and is a broken shell since she left, and she still loves him despite knowing that she shouldn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 19:52:57 No.114946464 Report

Quoted By: >>114946484

>>114944615
>>114944641
They were mad didio wanted to replace legacy characters. They weren't mad at his vision. Luke fox will be batman and Wonder Woman will be gay or whatever

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 19:54:14 No.114946484 Report

Quoted By: >>114946529

>>114946464
Luke Fox as Batman is one of the most objectively terrible ideas I've ever heard. Luke is an absolutely nothing character, the embodiment of the inability to do that "describe a character without saying their job or what they look like" meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 19:56:41 No.114946529 Report

Quoted By: >>114946593

>>114946484
That was what made it ideal though. No way Luke Fox would last as Batman for more than a year, but put up with it for that long and you can get decades worth of character histories back with the new timeline. Easiest monkey paw I ever wished on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 20:00:22 No.114946593 Report

Quoted By: >>114947273

>>114946529
Eh, how many times is DC going to dangle the carrot of "the characters will get their histories back!" in front of us? That was what Rebirth was supposed to be, and it only really happened on a selective basis. They're never going to truly be able to fix the damage and weirdness they inflicted on themselves with the New 52.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 20:41:00 No.114947273 Report

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>>114946593
True, unfortunately. But for Steph and Cass it at least meant being "in" and having a prestigious identity at some point in the past again, which is better than nothing. Though they still had a vendetta against acknowledging Steph's Batgirl run, for whatever reason.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 20:47:09 No.114947363 Report

Quoted By: >>114947378 >>114947496

>>114926383
Why do they work so well together?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 20:48:01 No.114947378 Report

Quoted By: >>114947401 >>114947510

>>114947363
Because they've all been raped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 20:49:18 No.114947401 Report

Quoted By: >>114947434

>>114947378
how so? i mean, one of them had naked pictures taken of her, but that's about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 20:51:06 No.114947434 Report

Quoted By: >>114947679 >>114948750

>>114947401
The Joker raped Barbara and Black Mask raped Stephanie while he was torturing her and Slade fucked Cass while she was under the serum's influence

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 20:55:19 No.114947496 Report

Quoted By: >>114948076 >>114948134

>>114947363
Powerpuff Girls dynamic: the commander and leader, the joy and the laughter, and the toughest fighter.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 20:56:20 No.114947510 Report

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>>114947378
Based though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:05:29 No.114947679 Report

Quoted By: >>114947702 >>114947708

>>114947434
>Black Mask raped Stephanie
Nah, he left her clothe on. He ust took a power drill to her leg.

That being said, she has been canonically molested.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:06:40 No.114947702 Report

Quoted By: >>114947728

>>114947679

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:07:00 No.114947708 Report

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>>114947679
Dixon thinks it was rape. Though he could mean of the editorial variety.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:07:50 No.114947728 Report

Quoted By: >>114947834

>>114947702

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:12:55 No.114947834 Report

Quoted By: >>114947986 >>114948567 >>114948832

>>114947728

Also Tim,
>The only answer I can see is all men are scum
Way to shit on your own gender. Radiating serious amounts of Beta. Lay off on the soi products.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:22:41 No.114947986 Report

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>>114947834
Comic writers have no sense of tact with such issues. Which isn't why we read comics in the first place, but it does make for some cringe.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:28:39 No.114948076 Report

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>>114947496

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:31:38 No.114948134 Report

Quoted By:

>>114947496
> and we still don't have a comic with the three.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:32:07 No.114948143 Report

Quoted By:

Steph > Babs >>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:50:26 No.114948453 Report

Quoted By:

>>114930681
The only reason anyone gets along here is because its the same waifufags circlejerking over the same tired and trite characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 21:56:11 No.114948567 Report

Quoted By: >>114948679

>>114947834
Funny coming from Tim, who only seems to consistently respect girls who could beat the shit out of him like the Casses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:01:26 No.114948679 Report

Quoted By: >>114948852 >>114948860

>>114948567
> we have never gotten a Casses team-up.

How is this possible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:05:31 No.114948750 Report

Quoted By: >>114948783

>>114947434
To be fair, wouldn't you? let's be realistic: If you're a bad guy, and catches a cute asian musclegirl and manages to dominate her mind.. what would you do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:07:25 No.114948783 Report

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>>114948750
I would make her a submissive sex slave and barefoot and pregnant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:08:47 No.114948810 Report

Quoted By: >>114948880 >>114949359 >>114949984

>>114929151
This. I like batgirl in general but she works better as a younger character . Adult babs works better as oracle
If they want to do “babs as batgirl” stories they should have just done it as “lost stories” type of deal.
She kinda acts like a teen/ early 20s type but i assume babs is closer to 30 in the comics
Maybe they should have her run for senate like they were planning to do in Bronze Age

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:09:52 No.114948832 Report

Quoted By: >>114948997

>>114947834
>It's moot
Who is that moot guy?

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:11:10 No.114948852 Report

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>>114948679
Cass didn't really get go near YJ much, besides >>114926907 this issue. It's a shame.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:11:35 No.114948860 Report

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>>114948679
>Another Blonde

I think they would be fast friends.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:12:40 No.114948880 Report

Quoted By: >>114948940

>>114948810
As of Burnside, she was 21. It's ridiculous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:15:57 No.114948940 Report

Quoted By: >>114949032

>>114948880
>Has the most basic white girl slut bio of all time

Why am I not surprised? All that's missing is a love of travelling and dining out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:19:52 No.114948997 Report

Quoted By:

>>114948832
Inventor of TOTSE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:22:00 No.114949032 Report

Quoted By: >>114949092

>>114948940
In fairness, Frankie wrote it. Babs would never make one herself because she's too busy pining over Dick forever.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:25:08 No.114949092 Report

Quoted By: >>114949189

>>114949032
>she's too busy pining over Dick forever.

And toying with the affections of a domestic terrorist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:29:39 No.114949189 Report

Quoted By: >>114949993

>>114949092
I can't decide what's worse between this working out and possibly becoming an actual thing or him getting killed and Babs being resigned to being Dick's side piece forever. There's no winning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 22:37:43 No.114949359 Report

Quoted By:

>>114948810
>If they want to do “babs as batgirl” stories they should have just done it as “lost stories” type of deal.
Agreed.

There is no reason whatsoever to not have a "set in the past" book about Babsgirl.
Hell, it could be used easily to explore\fix continuity issues

Like: Batgirls, with Cass and Steph as the Batgirls in the main story and every issue having a backup about Young Babs

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:07:44 No.114949984 Report

Quoted By: >>114951157

>>114948810
If they want to do “babs as batgirl” stories they should have just done it as “lost stories” type of deal.
This. There's so many fun potential stories locked behind the current time-frame. Team-ups with Robins she could actually have chemistry with. Being able to have Jim as a regular cast member because she's still living with him (though I think the current run did have them living together again, despite her being a grown woman?). The concept Simone established of her sociopathic little brother knowing she was Batgirl from the first moment she donned the cowl as teenager. Lots to play with that's rarely touched.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:08:03 No.114949993 Report

Quoted By: >>114950415 >>114950632

>>114949189
Is Ted Kord still dead? Can they bring him back?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:29:15 No.114950415 Report

Quoted By: >>114950475

>>114949993
I think he was alive during Rebirth? Him and Jaime had a duo book or something, or at least that's what it looked like from my periphery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:32:40 No.114950475 Report

Quoted By:

>>114950415
Might be fun for Babs's younger/hipper friends to give her shit for dating an older guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:39:48 No.114950609 Report

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>>114934451
In short, post-flashpoint writers need to learn how to write. Since none of them can even write themselves out of a wet paper bag.
Been rereading a lot of my old pre-flashpoint floppies, and trades lately since I've been off, and the difference in quality between then and now is jarring. It's like they'll let just about anyone ruin their IPs and trademarks.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:40:39 No.114950632 Report

Quoted By: >>114950806

>>114949993
He's alive. He was in HiC so it's easy to want to forget that.

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:48:38 No.114950806 Report

Quoted By: >>114951000

>>114950632
So why isn't he having cyber sex with Babs?

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:49:32 No.114950820 Report

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Anonymous Wed 13 May 2020 23:58:36 No.114951000 Report

Quoted By: >>114951099 >>114951251

>>114950806

Blame the Batgirl writer. She's too busy having Babs date Jason Bard.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:03:14 No.114951099 Report

Quoted By: >>114951251

>>114951000
I hope he's an editorial choice rather than the writer's. Babs had a much more entertaining interaction with Killer Moth of all people, I don't think a romantic one would be that much harder to do, it's just that Jason is such a milquetoast simp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:06:16 No.114951157 Report

Quoted By: >>114951602 >>114954742

>>114949984
>This. There's so many fun potential stories locked behind the current time-frame.
do anybody know how well PAD's Symbiote Spider-man books are selling?

If they are doing well enough, Marvel and DC might try for more set-in-the-past stories

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:09:20 No.114951231 Report

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>>114943170
this one lacks just a bit more hips or butt, something doesn't feel right
>>114943254
>>114950820
these are great

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:10:12 No.114951251 Report

Quoted By: >>114951333

>>114951000
>>114951099
Does anyone even read the current Batgirl comic? It seems like it's in a perpetual cycle of Babs getting a new romantic interest, evil Oracle, and her evil brother storylines.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:14:30 No.114951333 Report

Quoted By: >>114951359 >>114951622

>>114951251
The latest run started out strong, but Evil Oracle dragged out too long, and this thing with Jason is very problematic but also so very incredibly dull. Feels like a lot of filler and wheel spinning, and I don't think the destination is going to be anywhere interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:15:45 No.114951359 Report

Quoted By: >>114951509

>>114951333
I'm really salty that they never even had Cass at least cameo as being mentored by Babs after it was set up in 'Tec.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:16:35 No.114951377 Report

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Babs should be a smol bat fangirl in every universe at least as a part of her backstory

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:22:12 No.114951509 Report

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>>114951359
I've always loved how Babs mentored her during Cass's Batgirl run. And she could use a better supporting cast right now. She's like Spider-Man without the funny, and lacks the introspection to make her internal monolouge interesting. Having someone quirky to bounce off of would do her a world of good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:27:00 No.114951602 Report

Quoted By: >>114952217

>>114951157
> Cass finds out Steph is alive.

There's a tale in itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 00:28:54 No.114951622 Report

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>>114951333

The thing I've read about the run is it's trying to be three things at once, but not telling anything new. It's trying to be classic Batgirl Babs, New 52, and Burnside but failing spectacularly at bringing anything new to the table.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:00:02 No.114952217 Report

Quoted By: >>114952268 >>114952471

>>114951602
Not one for a 12+ comic book though.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:02:51 No.114952268 Report

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>>114952217
Nope.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:13:19 No.114952471 Report

Quoted By: >>114952630

>>114952217

Oh you know it can. Cass doing her thing. Then suddenly Steph is alive. Cass is in utter disbelief that her friend is alive. Hurt at first that she was lied too and it ends in hugs.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:22:08 No.114952630 Report

Quoted By: >>114952730 >>114952953

>>114952471
Hopefully that conversation happens in civvies, because if Tim was pissed enough at the “new” Spoiler to try and fight her, Cass would have her laid out in one second.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:27:28 No.114952730 Report

Quoted By: >>114952869 >>114952953

>>114952630
I hadn't really considered that Cass running across someone she thought was impersonating Steph would be one of the few ways to make her go apocalyptic.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:33:40 No.114952869 Report

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>>114952730
I'm tearing up just imagining it already. :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:37:25 No.114952953 Report

Quoted By: >>114953131 >>114953612 >>114953950

>>114952630
>>114952730
>”How... DARE you?”
>She decks her, flips her onto the ground, and prepares to dish out the beatdown of the century—
>”Whoa, whoa, you tagged me already!”
>”...Steph?”

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:46:06 No.114953131 Report

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>>114952953
Don't mind me, just have something in my eye.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:54:35 No.114953294 Report

Quoted By: >>114953593

> now everyone knows the feels Cass seeing Steph alive again can cause.

GOOOOOOOOOD. GOOOOOD!! Let the feels flow thru you all now!!

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:02:07 No.114953423 Report

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Rare lego babs

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:10:57 No.114953593 Report

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>>114953294

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:12:03 No.114953612 Report

Quoted By: >>114953655 >>114953679 >>114955742

>>114952953
Either Cassie's anger is getting to her, Steph is getting stronger, or both. Seeing Steph getting taken out by one punch was a fairly common occurance.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:14:03 No.114953654 Report

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>>114930838
Goux does have a unique design already prepared for her, it seems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:14:13 No.114953655 Report

Quoted By: >>114953950

>>114953612
Cass would be too angry to use the nerve pinch. She'd want the person to suffer as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:15:29 No.114953679 Report

Quoted By: >>114953950

>>114953612

And that's how Cass will know. The moment Steph blows and knows how too after all the times Cass knocked her out. That's when it'll hit Cass. And Steph will fall to her knees hugging her, "For once Cass you deserve one happy ending."

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:31:52 No.114953950 Report

Quoted By: >>114954020

>>114953679
>>114953655
>>114952953
I think Cassie would still be furious with her after the reveal, but considering their history of mutual deception, good intenioned as it was, they would definitely be quick to patch things up. After all, they're better when they have each other.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:35:57 No.114954020 Report

Quoted By: >>114954055 >>114954059

>>114953950
Honestly even if Steph had come back to Gotham sooner, there still might not have been a better time to tell Cass, since I think the year she spent in Africa was probably the same year Cass spent on Slade juice.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:37:30 No.114954055 Report

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>>114954020
Well, there was at least her nebulous amount of time in Bludhaven.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:37:35 No.114954059 Report

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>>114954020
It was the same year Steph was in Africa.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 02:49:49 No.114954291 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 03:10:06 No.114954742 Report

Quoted By: >>114955072

>>114951157
I have heard that readers dont like "set in the past" stories as there is no "drama". I never bought into that because its not like anyone picks up a random batgirl comic thinking "yeah shes gonna die in this one:"

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 03:12:48 No.114954798 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 03:20:38 No.114954964 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 03:26:26 No.114955072 Report

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>>114954742
That’s dumb. A story doesn’t need the risk of major character death or promises of THE HISTORY OF CHARACTER X WILL FOREVER BE CHANGED to be a good and worthwhile addition to the mythos. There’s a thing called emotional stakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 04:01:59 No.114955742 Report

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>>114953612
She did get a bit of a bump up in skill prior to becoming Batgirl. But War Games also gave her it a bit of a bump down, so I think it evens out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 04:09:53 No.114955874 Report

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Whew! I was very nearly interested in something one of the big two was going to do, for the first time in years. Sure am glad I can go back to just wanting them both to go out of business ASAP.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 04:10:34 No.114955886 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 04:45:48 No.114956436 Report

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:04:49 No.114956758 Report

Quoted By: >>114956783 >>114957085

No love for Tiffany?

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:05:13 No.114956763 Report

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>>114956436
And this is why I like Steph. Of all the Batgirls, I can easily see myself asking her out only to get shot down. But she's approachable enough to make it seem almost possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:06:22 No.114956783 Report

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>>114956758
Give it time. There wasn't much love for Steph or Cass initially either. Now they are favorites. Babs usually finds herself at the bottom of Batgirl lists more often than not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:06:46 No.114956790 Report

Quoted By: >>114956859

>>114955886
Did Rose make a conscious effort to slice up Cassie's butt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:11:15 No.114956859 Report

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>>114956790
She was probably going for her spine, but cutting out the ass of her suit seems like a win-win kind of scenario.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:14:39 No.114956898 Report

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A Team Robin concept is constantly thrown around in order to prevent Tim Drake being forgotten.

Can a current continuity League of Batgirls work? Should it involve Babs walking around or just Steph, Cass and Tiffany?

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:18:50 No.114956956 Report

Quoted By: >>114957000

T..thanks for looking after me after Chad got me pregnant Tim!

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:22:42 No.114957000 Report

Quoted By: >>114957225 >>114957654 >>114957681 >>114957708

>>114956956
when the fuck did that happen? jesus christ tim, i get that you are the nerd robin but come on, this is all dicks fault he forgot to teach you the most important part of being a robin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:29:31 No.114957085 Report

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>>114956758
Literally never even heard of her.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:40:58 No.114957225 Report

Quoted By: >>114957437

>>114957000

It was retconned away in the subsequent Crisis event but yes Stephanie was involved in a teen pregnancy storyline

>teach you the most important part of being a robin

And whats that?

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 05:56:52 No.114957437 Report

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>>114957225
Important crime fighting detective techniques

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 06:17:05 No.114957654 Report

Quoted By: >>114957681

>>114957000
Right in between cataclysm and no man's land.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 06:18:47 No.114957681 Report

Quoted By: >>114957708

>>114957000
>>114957654

Oh and it wasn't Tim's kid.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 06:21:21 No.114957708 Report

Quoted By: >>114957731

>>114957681
>>114957000
I hope she at least gave him a blowjob.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 06:23:30 No.114957731 Report

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>>114957708
Nah he’s boy virgin like she says

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