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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 04:58:07 2020 No.114000592 View Reply Original Report

>Maxima retconned her entire planet by making it where it was created and powered by lesbians and men came and stole that power, turning it into a heterosexual society

This is real.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 04:59:11 No.114000612 Report

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>>114000592
>From a Wonder Woman comic
Why am I not surprised

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:00:41 No.114000627 Report

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>>114000592
Thanks to fag Steve Orlando.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:05:27 No.114000676 Report

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>>114000592
>>114000612
>Maxima
>DC
Wait, wasn't Maxima that redhead that was super thirsty for the Supercock? Kept hounding the guy and saying how they would mae the most powerful babies?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:06:22 No.114000683 Report

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>>114000676
Yup

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:06:49 No.114000688 Report

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>>114000676
Not anymore, major retcon.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:09:40 No.114000720 Report

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>>114000676
The retcon I remember was the Supes Maxima was an imposter who stole the name and this lesbian Maxima is the true one. Also it's a title or some shit.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:15:59 No.114000784 Report

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:17:48 No.114000805 Report

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>>114000720
The other maxima if anyone is curious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:19:31 No.114000822 Report

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>>114000592
What wonderful author blessed us with this wonderful character assassination?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:19:40 No.114000823 Report

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>>114000592
>Those damn lesbian aliens! This makes me angry!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:20:34 No.114000834 Report

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>>114000676
> alternate, adult Maxima who resembles the more traditional pre-Flashpoint version of the character in both appearance and personality later showed up as a villain. The adult Maxima is a former Almeracian soldier who kidnapped the younger Maxima and stole her name after believing that the girl's unwillingness to deny her homosexuality by taking on a male partner made her unworthy of her royal title and heritage. The new Maxima was later defeated and imprisoned by the combined might of Supergirl, Superwoman and the younger Maxima.[13]

From Wikia.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:21:58 No.114000847 Report

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>>114000592
>>114000805
>Maxima is now a lesbian
Oh fuck you with a rake! Her character was trying to fuck Superman because she deemed him a worthy mate!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:25:01 No.114000871 Report

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>>114000720
I fucking hate it when a character is abruptly revealed to be an "impostor" and the "true" character, who's completely different and might as well be a whole new character, appears and replaces it. Didn't they also try to pull that shit with New 52 Lobo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:25:27 No.114000873 Report

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>>114000823
>Lesbian Aliens! The one topic I must defend at all costs or all of society will break down!

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:26:08 No.114000879 Report

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>>114000871
Yep. Luckily classic Lobo stuck around while the nuLobo got locked up by Braniac and never heard from again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:27:08 No.114000889 Report

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>>114000847
There was literally one good story about that and afterwards it just made Maxima a one dimensional "I will follow orders and suggestions from men I want to fuck but never will because it would conclude my character arc"

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:28:11 No.114000897 Report

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>>114000847
Is that supposed to prove she's a good character?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:29:16 No.114000908 Report

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>>114000889
>>114000897
Look I'm not going to pretend that Maxima was this nuanced character or anything, but I take offense to completely rewriting a character to pander to /u/faggots, especially since lesbians are more commonplace than fucking Marvel mutants and thus cliche as all hell. So yeah, fuck this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:30:54 No.114000925 Report

Quoted By: >>114000954

The fucked up thing is that Maxima was created to sort of be a parody of those terrible characterization of Wonder Woman where all Wonder Woman wants is to corrupt Superman into a power hungry despot and make babies with him because Superman's the strongest. So the fact that during the New 52 when Wonder Woman was in fact reverted to this awful characterization as a norm DC felt the need to "fix" Maxima, but not Wonder Woman.

It's like if DC tried to fix Deathstroke by making him an effective hero and awesome dad while keeping on portraying Batman as a fuck-up and child abuser.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:31:35 No.114000934 Report

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>>114000889
>>114000897
>B-but the character was never good in the first place!

Bullshit, she went on to join a version of the justice league and had several good stories after her initial appearance.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:32:16 No.114000942 Report

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>>114000908
>but I take offense to completely rewriting a character to pander to /u/faggots

As opposed pandering to /s/faggots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:33:20 No.114000954 Report

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>>114000925
>It's like if DC tried to fix Deathstroke by making him an effective hero and awesome dad while keeping on portraying Batman as a fuck-up and child abuser.
DC literally did this during the Tom King mess, by way of Christopher Priest's Deathstroke run.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:33:29 No.114000956 Report

Quoted By: >>114000973 >>114000980 >>114000999 >>114001455

>>114000934
And what was her primary motivation? Following whatever hot dudes she "respected" told her to do.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:33:45 No.114000961 Report

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>>114000897
lets say she is not. rework her in the preexisting outline or let her die. This is like having someone use another person as a skin suit.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:33:57 No.114000962 Report

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>>114000592
When stupid gaijins try to imitate people of culture and fails because their brains are flooded with propaganda.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:34:25 No.114000970 Report

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>>114000942
Oh so your admitting it has nothing to do with her being a "one dimensional" character and its all about politics? I'm shocked! shocked!

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:34:47 No.114000973 Report

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>>114000956
What's the motivation of current Maxima? Wanting to be gay back on her planet and not being able to? Well, now she can. What's her purpose now? She's just as one-note now, if not more.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:35:10 No.114000978 Report

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>>114000961
>rework her in the preexisting outline or let her die

They reworked her in Supergirl, and the Wonder Woman story was just a continuation of that revamp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:35:18 No.114000980 Report

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>>114000942
>>114000956
I hope you're just baiting and not buying this horseshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:35:51 No.114000985 Report

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>>114000978
And both were shitty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:36:16 No.114000989 Report

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>>114000970
Being a woman who was motivated solely by finding someone to fuck and make babies with is being one dimensional.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:36:29 No.114000993 Report

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>>114000822
Whoever wrote the Nu52 Supergirl book because that is where she came from

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:36:51 No.114000999 Report

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>>114000956
And that's your argument against it? That she followed sucking superman's advice so somehow that makes anything she did wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:38:42 No.114001022 Report

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>>114000989
>A women who is sexually aggressive and knows what she wants frightens me!

Why am I not surprised?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:39:54 No.114001034 Report

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>>114000989
Wait, does this nigga just despise all women for desire to be mother? This is misogyny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:41:10 No.114001048 Report

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>>114001022
I said it made her one dimensional, as a fictional character. She was fun in her original debut story. But every story after that basically repeated the same story beats, even when she became a "normal" hero and her reasoning became "I want to fuck you and that's why I want to win your respect because apparently we can't just bone and get it done with"

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:42:09 No.114001060 Report

Quoted By: >>114001091 >>114001099 >>114004055 >>114004819

>writers tired of seeing Wonder Woman being paired with Superman romantically and having her entire character raped to make the pairing work decided to come up with an OC to put a stop to it
>Maxima originally behaves exactly the same Wonder Woman used to whenever paired to Superman - a cock-hungry sadistic lady warrior who wanted to rule the world beside the strongest mate possible AKA Superman
>during the New 52 relaunch DC decided that the original Maxima was too toxic and sexist of a character, and decided to change her into a poor and misunderstood woman who wants to be gay, but can't because her society wants her to breed with the strongest mate possble
>this while the actual Wonder Woman had her entire character raped in several books because she at the time happened to be paired with Superman and was back to be portrayed as a cock-hungry sadistic warrior who dated Superman because he was the strongest

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:42:29 No.114001063 Report

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>>114000999
She only did it because she wants to fuck him and thought if she played ball and followed what Superman told her she would eventually win his respect and get to make babies with him. Because her character was still dominated by one dimensional "fuck and breed" mentality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:42:30 No.114001064 Report

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>>114000978
its not a rework in the preexisting outline if you flip her sexuality and dump her main motivation. its like a catwoman that does not steal

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:44:30 No.114001077 Report

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>>114001064
>its like a catwoman that does not steal

You mean whenever she was a hero, not a thief?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:45:01 No.114001084 Report

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>>114001063
I find that interesting. its like an orbiter guy but a woman.
>>114000989
human history trembles before your wisdom. it not like alliances and self interest make for good dramas.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:45:44 No.114001091 Report

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>>114001063
Explain this shit >>114001060. Maxima served a function. She shielded Wonder Woman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:46:48 No.114001099 Report

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>>114001060
>can't because her society wants her to breed with the strongest mate possble
and how did they deal with this? oh just tell the society that the kingdom was founded by gays, surely that will flip their world view in seconds or be somehow relevant to current issue.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:47:50 No.114001111 Report

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>>114001077
>implying she did not steal then

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:48:45 No.114001127 Report

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>>114000989
>Intergalactic conqueror decides to take mates they like by force and have to be defeated.
>Bad when a women does it.

It's a staple of the genre, why is it suddenly not good enough a motivation when we have one of the few female examples of the archetype?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:49:06 No.114001132 Report

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/co/mblr really is the worst board...
When did trannies and faggots invaded? When SU threads stopped being deleted?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:49:39 No.114001139 Report

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>>114000989
So its bad when a woman villain does it? Fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:50:34 No.114001151 Report

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>>114001099
In the story she tells Wonder Woman that she learned that the first king and queen of her planet were actually a queen and a disguised queen, and that this knowledge can help change her society so she can finally be lesbian. Wonder Woman helps her by basically bulldozing the place and forcing them to accept NuMaxima's lesbianism. The end.

Oh, and the comic for some reason referenced the SMWW debacle from New 52 that everyone tried to pretend it didn't happen, which i find hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:51:45 No.114001164 Report

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So is she supposed to be a Jean Grey/Phoenix knockoff?
>Red head
>Green and yellow colors
>psychic based powers

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:53:34 No.114001182 Report

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>>114001063
I'm tempted just to post male counterparts and just ask why does the female version bother you so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:54:21 No.114001196 Report

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>>114001164
She's a Wonder Woman knockoff. You know, a parody of Wonder Woman from comics like Kingdom Come, Dark Knight Strikes Again, INJUSTICE, and so on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:55:17 No.114001213 Report

Quoted By: >>114001244

>>114000592
Why is it always fucking lesbians? I'm so tired of everything being lesbians.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:55:42 No.114001219 Report

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>>114001151
so what I said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:56:17 No.114001225 Report

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>>114001164
Dude, there are so many Jean grey knockoffs that it's hard to differentiate anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:56:44 No.114001230 Report

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>>114001127
whats that hairy space guys name that tries to bang powergirl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:57:47 No.114001244 Report

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>>114001213
out of all the options I think lesbians is the best. would you like her to be asexual ?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 05:59:11 No.114001269 Report

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>>114001230
Vartox

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:00:16 No.114001287 Report

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>>114001244
Yes you stupid dyke.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:02:26 No.114001307 Report

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>>114001244
Unironically yes

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:03:17 No.114001319 Report

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>>114001127
>>114001182
Mainly as more of an excuse to post more Ming, I want to delve into this comparison more.

Intergalactic/dimensional/fantasy warlord who wants to force a marriage on a unwilling suitor they decided was worthy of themselves is a stable of comics and science fiction. It may very well be "one dimensional" but suddenly that's something to care about? That's a criticism? You never seemed to care before and yet, when its a woman doing it, its suddenly a bad thing?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:04:11 No.114001330 Report

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>>114001048
You just called your mother one dimensional. What's wrong with you?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:04:17 No.114001331 Report

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>>114001182
Because Maxima didn't stay a villain, she was turned into a hero, yet still retained those core traits. That's the problem when you make a character that has entirely one-note core motivation to a reoccurring character.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:07:02 No.114001361 Report

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>>114001331
But she was entertaining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:07:09 No.114001365 Report

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>>114001269
When will he be "improved" into a homosexual bear that turns villains into claymation figures for his dramatic films that explore the human soul?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:07:35 No.114001368 Report

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>>114001319
Because in his twisted psyche all women should be kind and lesbian. This is a clear consequence of the over-idealization.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:07:45 No.114001371 Report

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>>114001182
You don't realize that treating women as breeding machines is sexist, huh? Ming is a villain, his actions are meant to be bad. And Maxima did not remain a villain, she was turned into a hero who was a regular Justice League member. Yet her breeding obsession remained a part of her character that kept being brought back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:07:47 No.114001372 Report

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>>114001091
Artemis served that purpose better, and had more nuance to boot.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:08:20 No.114001380 Report

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>>114001372
Artemis didn't want to fuck Superman, though.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:09:08 No.114001389 Report

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>>114001331
Oh so she showed more character development by actually listening to her chosen mates advice and when it failed reverted to form is suddenly bad? And both examples I used are reoccurring characters.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:09:42 No.114001394 Report

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>>114001371
>And Maxima did not remain a villain, she was turned into a hero who was a regular Justice League member. Yet her breeding obsession remained a part of her character that kept being brought back.
Because she was a parody of the shitty Wonder Woman that's always used for the SMWW ship. Without the Superman obsession the parody doesn't work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:09:42 No.114001395 Report

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>>114001331
and? you can be heroic but also sexually pushy? maybe she should not be a hero, maybe its time to flip her back like the riddler. What can you explore with heroic Maxima who does not fuck that you could not explore with starfire?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:10:28 No.114001403 Report

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>>114001371
>treating women as breeding machines is sexist
>Maxima treating Superman as breeding machines

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:10:59 No.114001412 Report

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>>114001380
I meant more as a "mean scary Wonder Woman" than as "has a thing for Clark." But I'm kind of ok with Diana briefly having a crush on him.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:11:58 No.114001422 Report

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>>114001412
>But I'm kind of ok with Diana briefly having a crush on him.
It always, ALWAYS turn Diana into the old Maxima. That's why Maxima was invented.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:13:23 No.114001437 Report

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>>114001371
treating men as breeding machines is not sexist if you are not forcing them into it. In fact she seems to be looking for long term which seems a lot more acceptable to me than the todays "one night stands" and "buffet tasting" "normal" of real life

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:14:02 No.114001445 Report

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>>114001422
>Writers always, ALWAYS turn Diana into the old Maxima.
Fix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:14:51 No.114001455 Report

Quoted By: >>114001476

>>114000956
Careful, anon. This is a glaring display of misogyny. Most women (nearly all) would CHOOSE to do whatever a hot dude (this is key) she respected (this is also key) told her to do. Next you'll say women shouldn't have the choice.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:17:09 No.114001476 Report

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>>114001455
Of course he will say this because when a woman chooses a man it hurts his feelings.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:17:45 No.114001485 Report

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>>114001371
>You don't realize that treating women as breeding machines is sexist, huh?
I'm not the one who has to remind themselves of that obvious fact.
> Ming is a villain, his actions are meant to be bad.
No shit sherlock. But apparently presenting sexual forwardness in women is a bad thing to you?
>she was turned into a hero who was a regular Justice League member. Yet her breeding obsession remained a part of her character that kept being brought back.
And when she gave into it, became a bad guy again. It still makes her less one dimensional than her counterparts.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:19:01 No.114001495 Report

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>>114001445
That's what i meant. The SMWW is entirely built on power fetishism. That's the only reason the editors and writers ever thought of pairing them together. Superman's strong and popular, Wonder Woman's strong and popular, ergo they should fuck and potentially create the master race. That's all the pairing is about.

That's why the Superman writers created Maxima, so other writers would strop dragging Wonder Woman through the mud for some dumb ship, and since Maxima is a new character without any baggage they had more freedom to have fun with the power and breeding fetishism concept.

So the fact that Orlando tried to fix Maxima by turning her into a persecuted lesbian while in the same issue referencing the awful SMWW ship from before everyone wished to forget is hilarious tone-deaf.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:19:28 No.114001502 Report

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>>114001132
>NOOOO DON'T SPLIT COMICS AND CARTOONS!
>COMICS WILL BECOME COMFY LIKE /m/ WHILE CARTOONS WILL ROT IN ITS OWN FILTH
Fuck Jannies

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:29:17 No.114001592 Report

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>>114001371
>Yet her breeding obsession remained a part of her character that kept being brought back.
And always presented as a bad thing that ultimately made her a villain again.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:32:47 No.114001622 Report

Quoted By: >>114001643 >>114001904 >>114003030 >>114004277 >>114004381

>>114000592
If people cared then they would've thrown more of a shit during the Supergirl issues several years ago that introduced her and had her professing her love to Supergirl. Instead it's a bunch of anons who haven't read Supergirl or Wonder Woman and are reacting to a single panel over a character they know nothing about or care nothing about.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:34:02 No.114001631 Report

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>>114001371
it as if in good hands villain and hero are a spectrum and going towards one or the other does not give you a character lobotomy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 06:35:23 No.114001643 Report

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>>114001622
well back panther was the first predominantly black superhero (I wonder what those wakanda forever duds are up to these days)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:00:27 No.114001847 Report

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>>114000889
Both her old and new characterizations are awful, can we agree on that? One is for a obvious male power fantasy and the other a dyke Tumblr fantasy.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:03:51 No.114001882 Report

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>>114000592
See, this is why lesbians need to get raped. Their sense of ego is overinflated, and they need to get knocked down a peg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:06:15 No.114001904 Report

Quoted By: >>114001952

>>114001622
>If people cared then they would've thrown more of a shit during the Supergirl issues several years ago
What is the cutoff point for people caring about things, o lord? If more people "threw more of a shit" back when the comic released, do you honestly believe DC would go "well clearly 4chan doesnt like this. Let's stop publishing woke things now haha"?

Stop being a retarded fence sitter.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:08:51 No.114001937 Report

Quoted By: >>114002511

>>114000676
No. Maxima is the former Queen of the Netherlands.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:09:39 No.114001949 Report

Quoted By: >>114002033

>>114001330
are you pretending to be illiterate?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:09:56 No.114001952 Report

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>>114001904
>let's pretend that these are successful comics and that manga does not capture the US market
Nice denial of reality, sjw retard.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:11:39 No.114001970 Report

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>>114000805
For fuck's sake Once again yall in the current continuity, there are TWO Maximas

Classic Maxima and New 52 Maxima

Classic Maxima who is and adult woman who is the one who want's superman

And New 52 Maxima who's about Supergirls age and a lesbian.

New 52 Maxima has been a Lesbian since the the New 52.

Then they brought back the classic Maxima in rebirth as a separate character.

There's no retcon here.

You still have supercock hungry Maxima.

Chill out

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:15:49 No.114002001 Report

Quoted By: >>114002040

>>114000592

the retcon writer must have been cucked by his wife and wife's girlfriend.

filthy degenerate

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:17:50 No.114002013 Report

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>>114001847
>male power fantasy
smug anime face.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:19:07 No.114002023 Report

Quoted By: >>114002040 >>114002523

>>114000592
DC really likes making its female characters lesbians

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:20:10 No.114002033 Report

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>>114001949
>a woman who wants to have children is one-dimensional
>no, i didn't call my mother one-dimensional
And why I'm not surprised?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:21:43 No.114002040 Report

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>>114002001
>>114002023
Do you idiots not understand there are two Maximas, or do you just see "lesbian" and figure it's time to /pol/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:23:04 No.114002047 Report

Quoted By: >>114002062

>>114002040
The "old" Maxima is a fake and she's hardly used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 07:25:52 No.114002062 Report

Quoted By: >>114003042

>>114002047
Nope, She's the real Maxima by her own words, she just gave up ruling Almeraac at some point, her young degenerate cousin took over.

And New 52 Maxima hasn't appeared a lot recently either. Before this issue of WW the two Max's were last seen in the same story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:04:30 No.114002336 Report

Quoted By:

>>114001331
Normal people dont think its toxic for someone to be picky about the partner they want to build a family with. What's wrong with you?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:27:37 No.114002511 Report

Quoted By:

>>114001937
That's Beatrix, Lullo! Maxima is the wife of our King, Willem-Alexander

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:28:39 No.114002523 Report

Quoted By:

>>114002023
Usually only Batman related characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:33:14 No.114002559 Report

Quoted By: >>114003934

>>114000873
>I AM SILLY
>I think you're silly.
>SAYING THAT OUT LOUD MAKES YOU SILLY TOOOOOOOO
cope retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:37:23 No.114002577 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000592
that sound pretty batshit, honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:40:51 No.114002601 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000871
nu lobo was from a different world in the multiverse. i'm surprised with all the hinting that nu lobo was from a different universe why they didn't go with this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:41:01 No.114002603 Report

Quoted By: >>114002623 >>114002633

>>114000592
wasn't she a female chauvinist?
like she was always trying to put men in their place?
That sounds more interesting really. Like if Wonder Woman had the balls to own her whole schtick.

Wonder Woman is just way too well-adjusted if you ask me, supes are supposed to have PROBLEMS, you know what i mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:43:49 No.114002623 Report

Quoted By: >>114002838

>>114002603
you know, thats one thing i hate about wonder woman, shes supposed to be this strong woman, but then she gets Topped by some war veteran like shes a USO girl or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 08:44:49 No.114002633 Report

Quoted By:

>>114002603
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, maybe she was just really arrogant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 09:17:46 No.114002838 Report

Quoted By:

>>114002623
>if a woman is strong then she should not act like a woman at all
Fucking retard. Also, when a man begins to change his life under the influence of a woman this is normal and does not raise any objections. So much for "changing traditional gender roles".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 09:50:32 No.114003030 Report

Quoted By:

>>114001622
I know for a fact that people were calling out Orlando thinking he can redeem Maxima if he just turned her into a lesbian. Orlando also did a terrible job at turning Cameron Chase gay with his second Supergirl run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 09:51:46 No.114003033 Report

Quoted By:

>>114001970
The problem is the ridiculous notion that Orlando apparently want us to think Lesbo Maxima is the true Maxima when we all know she isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 09:52:48 No.114003042 Report

Quoted By: >>114003735

>>114002062
>She's the real Maxima by her own words
But not according to the writer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 10:32:27 No.114003250 Report

Quoted By: >>114003270

>>114002033
>a woman
No, dear illiterate-kun, a character. Something vastly different than real life person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 10:35:51 No.114003270 Report

Quoted By: >>114003405 >>114003481

>>114003250
She's still a 1-note character, only now it's about being a lesbo instead of a baby maker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 10:37:30 No.114003283 Report

Quoted By: >>114003419

>>114002033
not to mention you "accidentally" omitted "only" from "interested only in having kids".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 10:58:31 No.114003405 Report

Quoted By: >>114003453

>>114003270
Always with the contempt for "breeders." Geez louise, try to be more subtle, homo-kun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:00:10 No.114003419 Report

Quoted By: >>114003491

>>114003283
So, you are a misogynist who despises all housewives, got it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:05:52 No.114003453 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003405
Joke's on you anon, Mother of Champions is my favorite Great ten team member.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:10:29 No.114003481 Report

Quoted By: >>114003528

>>114003270
Well, I wasn't arguing -that-.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:11:31 No.114003491 Report

Quoted By: >>114003502

>>114003419
Learn how to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:14:35 No.114003502 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003491
Learn how to think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:15:35 No.114003511 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000592
OY VEY! Women loving men bad!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:16:49 No.114003517 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000592
No one below 30 yrs old cared about Maxima and that hasn't changed with this comic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:17:49 No.114003528 Report

Quoted By: >>114003578

>>114003481
Yeah I'm a different anon then the guy trying to say you hate your own mother. I admire Orlando's attempt to add diversity but you can't expect to change a cum hungry dick hound into a lesbo and think somehow that will fix having a slutty space queen looking for creampies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:26:32 No.114003578 Report

Quoted By: >>114003620

>>114003528
They're two separate characters now though. So if you want gimme your sperm, man, Maxima, she still exists. And if you want teen lesbian space princess, you have that too. It's not like with Lobo where they tried to pretend for awhile like old Lobo didn't exist anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:32:49 No.114003618 Report

Quoted By: >>114003630

>>114000592
>/co/ suddenly pretends like it cares about Maxima.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:33:36 No.114003620 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003578
>They're two separate characters now though.
Ok so how is that not being a lazy hack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:35:19 No.114003630 Report

Quoted By: >>114003654

>>114003618
This isn't about Maxima but Orlando's well intentioned but ultimately lazy attempt at including diversity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:38:59 No.114003654 Report

Quoted By: >>114003665

>>114003630
>diversity
You mean his fetishes. You know damn well this is about lesbian porn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:40:43 No.114003665 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003654
No I'm giving Orlando the benefit of the doubt and assuming he did this out of a genuine want to be more inclusive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:42:03 No.114003673 Report

Quoted By: >>114003734

>>114000834
that is so stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:50:14 No.114003723 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000592
its just a documentary from the future of real earth

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:51:03 No.114003734 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000834
>>114003673
If being gay is so bad on almerac that a soldier can attempt a military coup against royalty then why didn't Almerac just kill Maxima?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:51:12 No.114003735 Report

Quoted By: >>114003853

>>114003042
which writer and where do they say that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 11:58:52 No.114003771 Report

Quoted By: >>114003826

New 52 Max has been confirmed gay since super girl #40

>issue #40 is out & the the book is coming to an end – but really happy i got to have this moment. there needs to be more characters of diverse backgrounds, including LGBT ones, in mainstream media. (out &) proud to be a part of positive social change AND a fucking awesome team that’s pushing us forward with epic storytelling, phenomenal

>Quote from K Perkins

So New 52 Maxima being gay isn't even Orlando.

Rebirth brought back the classic Max as a separate character.>>114000805

Just wait and somebody will do a story where the real Max shows up and trys to retake Almeraac from New 52 Max.

Stop being pissy because they didn't just erase New 52 Maxima when they brought the classic one back but decided they could coexist in the same universe.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:02:46 No.114003794 Report

Quoted By: >>114003818 >>114003854

Also, the first queens of Almerac were lesbians... how did they have descendants in the first place? That woulda killed the line right there and then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:05:52 No.114003818 Report

Quoted By: >>114003836 >>114003838 >>114004005

>>114003794
According to my chinese comic you can grow a dick with magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:06:42 No.114003826 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003771
Nu52 was a mistake and everything that went right could have been published without pivoting a reboot on that crappy Flashpoint.

It should be mostly ignored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:08:03 No.114003836 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003818

Morgan le Fay giving Arturia a potion so she can grow a dick and father Mordred makes more sense than this pile of shit Steve Orlando wrote.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:08:46 No.114003838 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003818
That actually does sound like Chinese traditional medicine bullshit. Just need powdered pangolin dick, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:10:44 No.114003853 Report

Quoted By: >>114003870

>>114003735
Kate Perkins in Superwoman #14.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:10:44 No.114003854 Report

Quoted By: >>114003880 >>114003888

>>114003794
>Lesbians can't have children

Well aren't you a precious little summer child.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:12:53 No.114003870 Report

Quoted By: >>114003886

>>114003853
New max and old Max being pissy rejecting each other doesn't count. Classic Max unequivacably exists and considers her self the rightful queen of Almeraac.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:14:43 No.114003880 Report

Quoted By: >>114003897

>>114003854
So how did the first queen be lesbians but Almerac later turns homophobic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:15:45 No.114003886 Report

Quoted By: >>114003898 >>114003902

>>114003870
Where does Classic Maxima exist in the current continuity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:16:04 No.114003888 Report

Quoted By: >>114007887

>>114003854

Oh, I know lesbians can have children, just like gays can as well -- a coworker is gay as hell, but he had father kids before he came out.

But Steve Orlando's world building is lacking in such way that it creates a bunch of questions:

Did the lesbian queens eventually take a male consort to provide for a royal bloodline? was one of them bisexual all this time? do they have the technology to procreate without male partners? magical futanari shenanigans?

all that creates more questions AND HOLES the narrative in the world building that led specifically to this issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:18:18 No.114003897 Report

Quoted By: >>114003935

>>114003880
Because the "King" was a masked guy hiding the fact "he" was actually a lesbian woman. It's like how the legend says that Pope Joan hid her true identity to become a priest and then rose up in the church hierarchy until she was the Pope, while everybody thought she was a dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:18:22 No.114003898 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003886
Last we saw her New Maxima had her locked up in Crucible Adcademy.

History wise I'd assume her old history was more or less restored when Superman's pre flashpoint history was.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:18:24 No.114003899 Report

Quoted By: >>114004091

My only exposure to Maxima is the animated series.

Always got a Saiyan Elite vibe from her outfit for some reason...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:19:12 No.114003902 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003886
Evil penus lover who say that new maxima is damning her bloodline by not at least fuckjng to have a babby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:23:44 No.114003929 Report

Quoted By: >>114003954

>>114000592
>N52 fucks something up and Rebirth makes it even shittier
How much worse can it get after Bendis came?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:24:06 No.114003934 Report

Quoted By:

>>114002559
Not him but your response is stupid and makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:24:12 No.114003935 Report

Quoted By: >>114003951

>>114003897
She wouldn't need to hide the fact that she was lesbian if they were like the first rulers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:26:41 No.114003951 Report

Quoted By: >>114003975

>>114003935
Unless of course being a lesbian wasn't socially accepted at the time and they felt the need to hide their orientation because it would undermine their rule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:27:10 No.114003954 Report

Quoted By: >>114003960 >>114003990 >>114004161 >>114004184 >>114004346 >>114004493

>>114003929
How is having two Maximas shittier?

You people can handle multiple green lanterns and Flashes, but two Maximas is too hard to wrap your brain around?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:27:40 No.114003960 Report

Quoted By: >>114004007

>>114003954

Because the penis loving one is the villain one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:29:26 No.114003975 Report

Quoted By: >>114004030 >>114004241 >>114004535

>>114003951
Power is respected above all anon.
Hiding the fact that shes a dyke during a time where it was lawless and they were fighting 6o rebuild/create a society is fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:31:35 No.114003990 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003954
>Defending this clusterfuck of retcons that resulted in the denigration of an old character and the creation of another shitty OC
Kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:33:38 No.114004005 Report

Quoted By: >>114004028

>>114003818
So where's my story where Maxima makes Kara grow a giant futa cock she plans to knock herself up with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:33:47 No.114004007 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003960
She's usually a antagonist anyway except that time she joined the JLA in the 90's. Usually her goal is to make Superman her love slave. Now she add's getting her planet from new maxima to her list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:35:32 No.114004021 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000805
Hello Jean

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:36:22 No.114004025 Report

Quoted By: >>114004043

>>114001269
God what a sexist character, that's just plain misandry to have a male character's only motivation is to fuck a woman!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:37:07 No.114004028 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004005
In the garbage bin along side the future of western comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:37:17 No.114004030 Report

Quoted By: >>114004078

>>114003975
>Power is respected above all anon.

Yeah, because rulers are never overthrown or anything, right? The royal couple being revealed to be social faux pas lesbians would most likely lead to a full blown revolt. Just because you gain power doesn't mean you don't struggle to maintain it, when you always have potential usurpers, etc. lurking in the court. And if they're the first generation of the ruling bloodline, that makes their position all the more precarious because their power hasn't been rooted with multiple generations, which are firmer sources for respect and loyalty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:38:51 No.114004043 Report

Quoted By: >>114004079

>>114004025
>a male character's only motivation is to fuck a woman!!!

Vartox's motivation to copulate with Power Girl was tied to just one storyline where his people were rendered sterile or whatever. And it all got resolved in the same storyline and after that Vartox was just infatuated with Peej but didn't exist just o fuck her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:40:26 No.114004055 Report

Quoted By: >>114004093

>>114001060
>the actual Wonder Woman had her entire character raped in several books because she at the time happened to be paired with Superman and was back to be portrayed as a cock-hungry sadistic warrior who dated Superman because he was the strongest

This right here.

This right here is the real confusing shit. Look for the sake of argument if you wanted to have a graceful royal character champion gay rights, WHY NOT USE FUCKING WONDER WOMAN? And if you want a thirsty violent bitch to saliviate over Superman's admittedly luscious abs, someone with an implicit lack of morality and impulse control, WHY USE FUCKING WONDER WOMAN?

This is yet another clusterfuck in Wonder Woman's continuity that bewilders me, because it makes me think there are social justice activist writers in DC working side by side with writers who think Superman is a Gigachad who deserves hot thirsty amazonian pussy that only his big dick energy can bring to heel, and somehow they're working together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:42:11 No.114004070 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000612
>>From a Wonder Woman comic
>Why am I not surprised
And Maxima looks like a skeleton tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:43:00 No.114004078 Report

Quoted By: >>114004102

>>114004030
There wasn't a fucking royal couple you stupid cunt.
The founders of their royal bloodline/society were carpet munchers. There was no bloodline or society before them.
And their bloodline being started by a lesbian pair just raises multiple questions.
And there are multiple instances of royalty and powerful people being open faggots/queers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:43:11 No.114004079 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004043
I'd like to point out that the joke about Vartox is he actually finds sexual intercourse disgusting, being from a high tech civilisation that just uses a space laser to zap his and Peeg's DNA somehow to impregnate his entire species at once. And yes, both the men and women give birth somehow. But not Vartox because he's too much of a man. Just not a physically sexual animal. Also it was during a population crisis for his planet and Peeg was much more forgiving of him once his situation was fully explained, and they parted on good terms.

Damn the New 52 Peeg run was inexplicably amazing, even when it wasn't doing fanservice, just for letting an actually strong female character be funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:44:59 No.114004087 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000871
I'm hoping Carl Manvers Captain Marvel is an imposter and the real Ms Marvel comes back one day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:45:17 No.114004091 Report

Quoted By: >>114004106

>>114003899
Huh. I never thought about it that way but now you pointed it out the gold pauldrons and white trim really do give her Vegeta energy. Same as MCU's Killmonger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:45:43 No.114004093 Report

Quoted By: >>114004120

>>114004055
Wonder woman is made openly straight and hyper fem because her origin is full unironic mega queer and a massive reason why girls dont like her as a character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:47:07 No.114004102 Report

Quoted By: >>114004173

>>114004078
>And there are multiple instances of royalty and powerful people being open faggots/queers.

And those exist from a period of time where they had the entire kingdom having already been established and its kinks for the most part ironed out for generations before by previous rulers and the loyalty to the ruler was firmly rooted in its people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:47:22 No.114004106 Report

Quoted By: >>114004137

>>114004091
...
Killmonger was fuckkng vegetarian down to his motivation. That's why hes more popular then black panther

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:49:01 No.114004120 Report

Quoted By: >>114004189

>>114004093
That's what gets me. Like if they're trying to appeal to queers NOW why not make the historically closeted character openly full lesbo again instead of bring up this other villain that, let's face it, people who don't want her to finally bone Superman one day don't give a shit about?

It just really smacks to me that like Miller in Dark Knight Returns some other writer really, really, really wanted Superman to have a bad bitch amazon waifu-holy shit, what if DC's writing staff was discovering the concept of waifus in the late 00s? Would explain a lot about how much Johns wanked Grail, it's just Toriyama and Lightning all over again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:50:18 No.114004137 Report

Quoted By: >>114004864

>>114004106
Yeah but he isn't undefeated 2-0 to BP, although having a memorable personality at all helps. Seriously, gun to my head I remember more unique character traits from T'challa in Civil War than all the other movies combined

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:52:11 No.114004161 Report

Quoted By: >>114004219

>>114003954
>Multiple Green Lanterns
Because the Green Lanterns are literal space cops. Plus outside of having a power ring, each Lantern is their own unique character past the powers. Space Marine John Stewart isn't just a black copy of Top Gun Hal Jordan or Boyscout Kyle Rayner and Gingersnap Guy Gardner is supposed to be a total asshole/joke half the time. The original Green Lantern, Alan Scott was retconned to be gay and people were against it because he constantly shat on his son for being a cocksucker for years. They didn't even go down the "self-hating gay" stereotype, it was just a cash grab change to be subversive.
>Multiple Flashes
Because half of them are legacies where it was passed down or alternate universe versions of themselves that actually had more nuance than "Suddenly Gay!". People give Black Wally shit but in the end he became his own character even though he was a walking stereotype of a black guy trying to act like a hood rat to fit in to the urban cliques until Silver Age Flash told him to be his own person and not fit the negative mold of his people.
>TL;DR
One's a police force and the other is a title that has had way more nuance. Sorry you dont read comics and were raised on shitty pandering Anon, it's rotted you to the core.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:53:39 No.114004173 Report

Quoted By: >>114004189

>>114004102
Anon...
Making we unironically logically gay and absolutely retarded when it comes to how normal humans interact romantically would outright destroy the characters tiny shred of popularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:54:38 No.114004184 Report

Quoted By: >>114004200

>>114003954
The same reason Jane suddenly calling herself Thor for a while instead of THE WIELDER OF MJOLNIR was weird. There being two of the character isn't the problem, the idea that the original version is somehow narratively invalid relative to the other is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:54:40 No.114004186 Report

Quoted By: >>114004190

>>114000720
There's nothing saying classic Maxima was a fake at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:55:09 No.114004189 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004173
See
>>114004120
Also it was a clear editorial decision

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:55:41 No.114004190 Report

Quoted By: >>114004206 >>114004400

>>114004186
>>114000834
>former Almeracian soldier
>soldier
>not actual queen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:56:47 No.114004200 Report

Quoted By: >>114004244

>>114004184
It's a social narrative of women replacing men in traditionally masculine roles. Something THEY have been pushing to the detriment of everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:57:08 No.114004206 Report

Quoted By: >>114004259

>>114004190
She had usurped power from the real Maxima, so she was a queen though. Just not the legitimate one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 12:58:35 No.114004219 Report

Quoted By: >>114004277

>>114004161
And Maxima is common royal Almeraacian name or title now.

Because its not like we don't have multiple king Georges or Johns or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:00:27 No.114004241 Report

Quoted By: >>114004259

>>114003975

I still wonder about the mechanics involved in continuing the bloodline, because it creates more questions, but then again i blame Orlando's wafer-thin worldbuilding.

Just thinking about it undermines the whole plot behind Ultraa's power grab -- even japanese dick growing potions punch holes thru it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:01:07 No.114004244 Report

Quoted By: >>114004261

>>114004200
But that was written by a man...
>Because its not like we don't have multiple king Georges or Johns or whatever.
Not at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:03:09 No.114004259 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004206
Okay see we're gonna have to agree to disagree about that not counting as a fake, because when I see Aragorn or King Arthur I don't immediately think "ah, clearly they usurped whoever was holding their position first" and hell didn't Superman actually go to her planet and everything? You call it a retcon or whatever, I call it dishonest, contrived and worst of all boring storytelling.

>>114004241
The funny thing is it could've been resolved by Vartox's breeding laser because it's a fucking comic book, but apparently Orlando is too uncreative and unambitious to come up with a breeding laser

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:03:12 No.114004261 Report

Quoted By: >>114004289

>>114004244
We've got Almeraac games of thrones going on with the two trying to usurp each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:05:50 No.114004277 Report

Quoted By: >>114004309

>>114001622
>If people cared then they would've thrown more of a shit during the Supergirl issues several years ago that introduced her and had her professing her love to Supergirl.

It did.

>>114001847
>One is for a obvious male power fantasy
Well I mean being dommed is a fantasy, but "male power"? not so sure.

>>114001970
We know this, its the other side that actually started talking about Maxima's character. The OPs complaint was about the history retacons and turning this all into a hetrovshomo story.

>>114004219
>Because its not like we don't have multiple king Georges or Johns or whatever.
...Those are still not titles, they are names. They are named that by their parents. Do you not understand how that works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:07:00 No.114004284 Report

Quoted By: >>114004469

>>114000592
>powered lesbian planet
>men came and stole that power
>turning it into a heterosexual society
Based as fuck. Who knew a faggot would recognize turning dykes straight with cock as the patrician fetish it is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:07:46 No.114004289 Report

Quoted By: >>114004400

>>114004261
The Maxima who likes dick doesn't have any power, she just looks and acts like Maxima used to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:09:39 No.114004309 Report

Quoted By: >>114004318 >>114004552

>>114004277
>Supergirl
Jesus, you just reminded me Supergirl's solo has been like 5 solid issues of her suffering Laughs' retarded edgelord poison while periodically screaming I JUS WANNA HELP YOU PEOPLE BE EDGELORDS LIKE ME, WHY AREN'T YOU HAPPY IM HALPING as Wonder Woman gently beats her up. Because that's all DC seems to think Supergirl and Powergirl are good for sometimes, having the designated gal brawl with Wonder Woman while mind controlled.

Christ. Forget Maxima, I'm not even a Supergirl fan but I'm pissed off on behalf of all the Supergirls fans who have to endure their character being worse than useless for 5 fucking issues in her own run all because of this goddamn caricature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:11:01 No.114004318 Report

Quoted By: >>114004339 >>114004400

>>114004309

Can't wait till Batman Who Laughs is reduced to a jeopardy question 10 years from now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:14:20 No.114004339 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004318
Preaching to the choir, brother. I just want to wake up one day and see him being punked like a bitch-not even by the Joker, but by some really bitch tier Batman villain as a gag and then he's just ignored for the rest of the story. Like fucking Condiment King spraying his ass with mustard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:15:10 No.114004346 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003954
>You people can handle multiple green lanterns and Flashes
I've always found that extremely bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:19:35 No.114004381 Report

Quoted By:

>>114001622
Not only do I remember it did cause a stir here, >>114000889 made the same exact argument back then too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:22:02 No.114004400 Report

Quoted By: >>114004412 >>114004464

>>114004289
>>114004190
>>114004318

Question? this story about classic Maxima being a former soldier of Maxima's mom come entirely from New 52 Maxima and doesn't make sense with the words that come out of classic Max's mouth.

How do we know New 52 Max isn't lying?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:23:37 No.114004412 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004400

they look retarded here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:28:33 No.114004462 Report

Quoted By:

>>114001970
>Classic Maxima
Never had this whole anti-homosexual reasoning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:28:40 No.114004464 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004400
Well, the Doylist answer is "because that's the objective truth as presented by the narrative in a medium that I no longer have as much faith in having nuance, or at least executing nuance well as I used to"

>How do we know New 52 Max isn't lying?
Honestly? With how completely unforshadowed the lesbian royal lineage(?) was? That's what I suspect will happen to un-retcon Maxima if DC gives enough of a shit. It will turn out that for contrived reason the lesbian queens were pulling a double bluff on everyone and amnesitised Actual Maxima with fake memories so they could take the throne.

I have to stress, that is a big fucking if because I genuinely don't think DC cares too much about Maxima for how little the Wonder Woman solo is promoted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:29:08 No.114004469 Report

Quoted By: >>114004595

>>114004284
Dykes...please.
Men would rather see that dyke planet burn then conquer it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:31:02 No.114004493 Report

Quoted By: >>114005068

>>114003954
>How is having two Maximas shittier?
Turning the original into a homophobic villain so she can be more of a heel to the new Maxima?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:36:35 No.114004535 Report

Quoted By: >>114004617 >>114004695 >>114004903

>>114003975
Speaking of, it's not just Maxima that was into selective breeding. The whole planet was into it, and all the authority/power of Almerac was decided by some sort of high eugenics council.
If the first king(female) and queen(female) were part of that, then there are some questions that could be answered in interesting stories about a truly alien culture. How do homosexuals deal with an intense desire to create genetic offspring while being physically uninterested in a heterosexual partner? How do they do this while also maintaining a charade of crossdressing and heterosexuality? But that won't happen, because it's too interesting and not a narrative that works in the current climate.
If Maxima-classic is a usurper then it makes the entire planet look like idiots, but also, and I'm just saying this, but maybe Maxima-nu shouldn't go back there? Because the entire society agreed that Maxima-nu was bad at her job, that they didn't want her as a ruler, and that selectively breeding the strongest and smartest in large numbers through heterosexual intercourse was the best thing ever. She can be gay, but does she have to be the ruler of a planet that rejects her? She's capable of leaving and thriving far away from them, why does she have to go back to an environment that was so hostile to her? Cutting them out of her life seems significantly healthier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:37:56 No.114004548 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000592
>men came and stole that power, turning it into a heterosexual society

Hang on. Is this actually what happened or are you exaggerating?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:38:16 No.114004552 Report

Quoted By: >>114004601

>>114004309
As long as that hilarious joke if a character we exists dc women will be in an eternal ghetto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:42:27 No.114004595 Report

Quoted By: >>114004620 >>114004748

>>114004469
Men would send thousands to die for one milimetar of land

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:43:03 No.114004601 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004552
We = ww

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:45:27 No.114004617 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004535

Steve Orlando is not very smart

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:45:38 No.114004620 Report

Quoted By: >>114005409

>>114004595
>laughs in Empress Lu Zhi
You say that like women wouldn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:54:04 No.114004695 Report

Quoted By: >>114004903

>>114004535
>If the first king(female) and queen(female) were part of that,
Then they were the worst homosexual couple in comic book history?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:54:57 No.114004706 Report

Quoted By: >>114004720

I'd like to further complicate everything by reminding everybody the Actual Original Pre-Flashpoint Maxima sacrificed her life during the Imperiex war and was still dead as of flashpoint.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:56:08 No.114004720 Report

Quoted By: >>114004734

>>114004706

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:57:17 No.114004734 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004720

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 13:58:45 No.114004748 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004595
Soldiers are soldiers. Sex doesnt matter.

Lastly I stand by my post. They wound ethnically cleansed their entire assbackwards race before subjugating or turning the straight with cock

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:01:02 No.114004771 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000871
Aren't there like multiple Harleys in the DC continuity or some shit? Wasn't there a joke in a recent comic that the Joker has gone through multiple Harleys, including one implied to be the DCAU version?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:02:04 No.114004785 Report

Quoted By: >>114005091 >>114007908 >>114008956

>>114000592
You know what they say about white anglo "men"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:05:22 No.114004819 Report

Quoted By: >>114004837

>>114001060
Why is there such a push for Superman/Wonderwoman? It's an awful pairing because it requires Lois to either be dead or nonexistent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:06:54 No.114004837 Report

Quoted By: >>114004912

>>114004819
>liking Lois
You might have brain problems anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:08:57 No.114004864 Report

Quoted By: >>114005752

>>114004137
> 2-0
Vegetafags still believe this delusion

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:12:29 No.114004903 Report

Quoted By: >>114004985 >>114005165

>>114004695
I mean... I guess if they weren't then their either left no blood-heirs, adopted a niece/nephew, got artificially inseminated or brought in a breeding-stud to bang the queen. Then, since this is a giant secret that no one knows about including the majority of the royal family, and we have this bloodline-crazed culture that wouldn't accept fertility problems or cuckoldry, everyone involved was murdered to keep things quiet to perpetuate a lie that worked against the king and queen's own interests. And then you have to work out why.
Which is still a pretty interesting storyline that could be used to explore this alien culture.

>>114004535
Continuing on from that first thought though: Almeracians got their powers through selective breeding and gene therapy. Assuming we stay woke and agree with what homosexuals have been saying for decades, that homosexuality is not a choice, that means that it's likely a genetic component. One that, in a dwindling, eugenics-loving society, would be altered with gene therapy as soon as it was possible, likely while still in the womb, to create offspring that have a healthy, focused interest in reproduction. The only reason it wouldn't be altered would be that the parents want some gay kids. Possibly to create bodyguards or supporters for the legitimate heirs of their families, who due to their unwillingness to mate, will never acquire the political power and support needed to get to the top of Almeracian society. Fuck, maybe even easily disavowed assassins.
Then you have Maxima-nu be raised as the bodyguard of her older sister, in the gene-therapy society. She has her own powerset but to prevent a struggle in the royal family, they never adjust her to be a heterosexual. Something happens to the sister, and to keep from losing face, the family pretends the bodyguard died and get ready to give Maxima-nu a gene-therapy to make her suitable as a queen. She finds out they're trying to make her straight and she fucking books it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:13:24 No.114004912 Report

Quoted By: >>114004931

>>114004837
>not liking Lois
Go under the sink and drink some bleach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:15:12 No.114004931 Report

Quoted By: >>114005177

>>114004912
>he likes Lois
>probably like MJ too
Annoying fags like you are the reason why these characters are stuck in time. Kilm yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:21:04 No.114004985 Report

Quoted By: >>114005506

>>114004903
Why would an advanced society that has access to gene therapy and artificial wombs and thus can make invitro-born people whenever they want require to give a shit if they be homo or hetero or whatever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:21:32 No.114004991 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000592
I've met Steve Orlando several times at cons and his arrogance is baffling.

He really thinks he's up there with Morrison & Moore, that shit he writes is tremendously groundbreaking and that he & his pals are the only true talent in the industry.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:29:55 No.114005068 Report

Quoted By: >>114005143

>>114004493
desu original Maxima was a homophobic hero. A character made for current day seething.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:31:20 No.114005091 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004785
You mean the same company that artificially pushes incest and pedo has a narrative and called the people who stated it anti semites on reddit?
Nooooo
They couldn't be a narrative to push.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:35:16 No.114005143 Report

Quoted By:

>>114005068
Fair enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:37:29 No.114005165 Report

Quoted By: >>114005506

>>114004903
Correct.
Also, why would they create/no murder off clearly inferior LGBT peoples?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:38:31 No.114005177 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004931
people's? Mj Is good.lois is an albatross

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 14:55:01 No.114005409 Report

Quoted By: >>114005518 >>114005542

>>114004620
Lu Zhi was a man, and he wasn't a emperor but Liu Bei's mentor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:03:32 No.114005506 Report

Quoted By: >>114007857

>>114004985
Never said they had artificial wombs. Could call it a quirk of the species, any artificial methods of reproduction don't pass on the powers properly, or only at a weaker level. They're psychics, right? That's the mechanics of most of their powers? So they gotta have a mending of the minds in a moment of passion to create the right "spark."

>>114005165
Below a certain level of power/authority, no one would allow their children to be a dead end to their lineage (not when gene-therapy costs any non-trivial amount of money), but above it, it's more like, "oh, here's someone who was raised happily, with love, given full freedom in their romantic pursuits, holds the same genetic-borne powers as their sibling and will never enter a power struggle with them leading to the destruction of our house/family, because without breeding options, every serious political power knows that they aren't a real person and thus won't support them."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:04:19 No.114005518 Report

Quoted By: >>114005542 >>114005572

>>114005409
Causal glance at sources say they were multiple people with the name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:06:40 No.114005542 Report

Quoted By: >>114005572

>>114005409
See >>114005518

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empress_Lü;

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:09:42 No.114005572 Report

Quoted By: >>114005633 >>114005697

>>114005518
>>114005542
Lu and Lü are two different names

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:14:39 No.114005627 Report

Quoted By: >>114005673 >>114006743

First off Maxima wasn't just looking for babies. She wanted to make a interstellar empire and wanted to brainwash superman into a warlord to rule with her and have children that would rule the galaxy. That's a bit different than what >>114000889 said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:15:21 No.114005630 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000954
Deathstroke was never portrayed as an awesome dad in Priest's run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:15:39 No.114005633 Report

Quoted By: >>114005735

>>114005572
He clearly said Empress, so no dice.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:20:52 No.114005673 Report

Quoted By: >>114005948

>>114005627
Rejects superman for being unworthy as his Kryptonian heritage made him cold and logical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:23:53 No.114005697 Report

Quoted By: >>114005735

>>114005572
>quibbling this hard over punctuation
Seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:27:17 No.114005732 Report

Quoted By:

>>114001970
This issue is that this is terrible writing and needlessly complicates a character and the DC lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:27:35 No.114005735 Report

Quoted By: >>114005784

>>114005633
But he also clear said Lu
>>114005697
punctuation is important, it's like saying Elizabeth II when you want to talk about Elizabeth I

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:29:28 No.114005752 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004864
First match could be considered a tie but Goku was worse off then Vegeta due to his body getting crushed. While Vegeta could still move.

Second match, eh. Sucker punch on Vegeta's part when Goku though they had stopped fighting. So not really a win. Even if Goku was holding back 3, his limited time on Earth meant he couldn't even use the form for long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:31:29 No.114005784 Report

Quoted By:

>>114005735
nah its nOT

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 15:44:17 No.114005948 Report

Quoted By:

>>114005673
Initially reappears as Brainiacs servant after he conquers her home planet after it was attacked by him she joined the heroes and approached Orion as a potential mate. She also was initially wanting to defeat Superman for her defeat.

She joins the justice league because she sought Superman again as a mate to rebuild her homeworld.

I find this to be vastly different than what has been claimed. In all appearances she seems in control of her own sexuality. Even with the obsession with superman its more like the evil warlord wanting a mate that is worthy of them than what has been claimed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 16:47:28 No.114006743 Report

Quoted By: >>114007890 >>114010191

>>114005627
She behaved like Wonder Woman would in comics like Kingdom Come and Dark Knight Strkes Again. That was the whole point of the character. A stand-in for that awful version of Wonder Woman from Elseworlds where she's paired with Superman and have her character raped to act as a foil to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 17:12:39 No.114007109 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000592
And people wonder why misoginy is rising.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 17:41:13 No.114007532 Report

Quoted By: >>114007813

Genuine question. Does this change make her character better? More interesting?
Personally, I just don't see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 17:43:19 No.114007562 Report

Quoted By:

>>114000592
Everyone at DC and Marvel deserve to be homeless and die of kung flu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 17:56:55 No.114007782 Report

Quoted By:

>>114001269
Wellp, I just found my next Comic-Con outfit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 17:58:43 No.114007813 Report

Quoted By:

>>114007532
No, and no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 18:02:12 No.114007857 Report

Quoted By:

>>114005506
No.
There is absolutely no reason for them to not either genetically remove homosexuality or abort it once it is found to carry LGBT dna.
In that society it would be seen as the child being born profoundly retarded and missing its limbs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 18:04:19 No.114007887 Report

Quoted By:

>>114003888
>In Vitro Fertilization?
>What the fuck is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 18:04:29 No.114007890 Report

Quoted By: >>114008029

>>114006743
Ww is a massive dyke who was born by clay magic. Her wanting a male to fuck and impregnate her makes less then no fucking sense.
She would just make clay babies. Goid enough for her good enough for any children she would have.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 18:05:29 No.114007908 Report

Quoted By: >>114007981

>>114004785
The Eternal Anglo truly knows no shame!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 18:10:38 No.114007981 Report

Quoted By:

>>114007908
Yes. 5hats totes believable and real

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 18:13:17 No.114008029 Report

Quoted By: >>114008076

>>114007890
>She would just make clay babies
That's not how that works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 18:16:16 No.114008076 Report

Quoted By:

>>114008029
Yes anon. That's exactly how that works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 19:08:18 No.114008956 Report

Quoted By:

>>114004785
That they've consistently kicked the shit out of lesser races for centuries even while shackling themselves with retarded "rules of warfare"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Mar 2020 20:16:54 No.114010191 Report

Quoted By:

>>114006743
Two things can be true at the same time Anon. She can both be a stand in for psycho-WW and invoke the trope of the interstellar warlord after a worthy mate at the same time.

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