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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 09:58:21 2020 No.113767625 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>113767696 >>113768211 >>113768347 >>113771603 >>113778340 >>113778446

Could gem Steven form his own personality if he was out of human Steven for long enough?

Can Steven even survive a long period of time free from his gem?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:00:49 No.113767641 Report

Quoted By: >>113767649 >>113767825 >>113768523 >>113771281

No idea and no respectively. The hard light form is basically like a membrane for his body that holds it all together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:02:01 No.113767649 Report

Quoted By: >>113767655

>>113767641
So your saving his gem is pretty much life support?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:02:39 No.113767655 Report

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>>113767649
Basically. Well, more like a vital organ if you think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:09:47 No.113767696 Report

Quoted By: >>113767711

>>113767625
Pretty sure Becky said they both die defused.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:13:00 No.113767711 Report

Quoted By: >>113767714 >>113774434 >>113776094

>>113767696
I get Steven dying but would gem Steven die?
He’s just a gem fused into a human body his form is based on Steven
But he’s still a gem he doesn’t have organs or blood he’s not human

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:13:38 No.113767714 Report

Quoted By: >>113774434

>>113767711
idk

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:28:01 No.113767825 Report

Quoted By: >>113767828 >>113767845 >>113768944

>>113767641
Why cant he fully heal? Or does he actually not heal and is the gem just holding him togethor well enough to make him function properly?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:28:35 No.113767828 Report

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>>113767825
he did fully heal

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:30:40 No.113767845 Report

Quoted By: >>113767856

>>113767825
The same reason he had to manually heal the cuts he get during the fight with Spinel. His body's auto-heal isn't as potent as his manual healing, which is why the bones still show signs of cracks while everything else he heals is seamless.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:31:47 No.113767856 Report

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>>113767845
>which is why the bones still show signs of cracks while everything else he heals is seamless.
that's just they way bones fuse together

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:52:07 No.113768006 Report

Quoted By: >>113768028

Can gem Steven feel love?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:55:51 No.113768028 Report

Quoted By: >>113768049 >>113768072

>>113768006
No, all the empathy comes from the human half. There's a good AU that seems to be exploring it https://suaugonewrong.tumblr.com/post/188487475627

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 10:58:48 No.113768049 Report

Quoted By: >>113768064

>>113768028

But Gems can feel love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:00:52 No.113768064 Report

Quoted By: >>113768072 >>113768080

>>113768049
Gem Steven seems more like a robot
He has no emotions like Steven
His only desire is to fuse back into Steven

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:02:47 No.113768072 Report

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>>113768064
>>113768028
Maybe Gem Steven could get some fake-love with Connie like Ruby with Sapphire and Lapis with Peridot

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:03:52 No.113768080 Report

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>>113768064
Gem Steven is basically a gem in its raw state. No experience, no knowledge. Just base code executing itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:06:10 No.113768099 Report

Quoted By: >>113769629

What does gem Steven feel like?
Does he just feel like would rock? Or is he soft and flesh like?
Is he even capable of tears of sweating?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:10:46 No.113768130 Report

Quoted By: >>113768141 >>113768169 >>113779863

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjd1hVEwXQo&t

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:12:35 No.113768141 Report

Quoted By: >>113768158 >>113768186 >>113774200 >>113774315

>>113768130
I wonder why gem Steven seems so powerful compared to normal Steven

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:14:27 No.113768158 Report

Quoted By: >>113768203

>>113768141
Lack of empathy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:16:08 No.113768169 Report

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>>113768130
I want Connie's bomber jacket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:17:38 No.113768186 Report

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>>113768141
he wasnt holding back

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:22:11 No.113768203 Report

Quoted By: >>113768237 >>113778292

>>113768158
Would gem Steven kill people or gems then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:24:14 No.113768211 Report

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>>113767625
I'd say the Gem can't form its own personality unless it goes through a hard reset/poofs or something.
We've essentially been shown that it acts as life support and a source of power for Steven; Steven, in turn, does what the gem of a Gem also usually takes care of, namely, creates a form, does thinking, forms a personality, all that shit.
I'd say it's locked to being symbiotic with Steven, just as Steven is symbiotic with it.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:27:39 No.113768237 Report

Quoted By: >>113768257 >>113768281

>>113768203
Neither, he just wants to reunite with his flesh half. He needs the flesh. HE NEEDS THE FLESH.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:32:31 No.113768257 Report

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>>113768237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGwz1s1E1aw

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:36:34 No.113768281 Report

Quoted By: >>113778563

>>113768237
>normal Steven dies
>gem Stevens comes out
>stares at his human corpse
>”this vessel is no longer useable I require new flesh”
>gem Steven then goes looking for a human he can force fuse with!

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:49:23 No.113768347 Report

Quoted By: >>113768386 >>113768443

>>113767625
>Can Steven even survive a long period of time free from his gem?
No. He can't. So the discussion is off the table. He almost dies if it's out a mere minute or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:56:07 No.113768386 Report

Quoted By: >>113768393 >>113768461

>>113768347
What is the evidence he can’t survive without his gem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 11:58:57 No.113768393 Report

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>>113768386
word of god
Also he could barely stand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 12:07:27 No.113768443 Report

Quoted By: >>113768459

>>113768347
Imagine him suddenly feeling all the pain of his not so fully healed injuries like his broken bones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 12:09:40 No.113768459 Report

Quoted By: >>113768493

>>113768443
That sounds like a great idea for a really nasty Stand. Feeling, say, all the damage you've taken over the past year or so come back all at once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 12:09:51 No.113768461 Report

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>>113768386
Looked like he was dying to me buddy, he couldn't even walk...dunno what that is to you but alright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 12:14:53 No.113768493 Report

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>>113768459
that sounds rad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 12:19:26 No.113768523 Report

Quoted By: >>113768542 >>113768543 >>113768550 >>113769653 >>113774579

>>113767641
But Steven Universe fans told me that punching doesn't seriously injure anyone, so it's okay to punch racists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 12:22:35 No.113768542 Report

Quoted By: >>113770603

>>113768523
You know the show has Steven's conservative uncle join the family again without being shamed into changing his views right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 12:22:54 No.113768543 Report

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>>113768523
Mate you are trying too hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 12:23:43 No.113768550 Report

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>>113768523
>There's punching in a show where tyrannical galactic dictators are redeemed
Anon, I...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 13:05:54 No.113768944 Report

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>>113767825
It’s more superficial cracks I suppose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 14:17:23 No.113769629 Report

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>>113768099
How the other Gems feel I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 14:19:07 No.113769653 Report

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>>113768523
Cringe. Nobody believes you buddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 15:54:37 No.113770603 Report

Quoted By: >>113773605

>>113768542
To be fair, he’s an old-school moderate conservative. He just wanted to know that his nephew had a stable family situation, and that the family bad a clear idea of what everyone was.

Plus, they won him over a fair amount with skill at farming and pride in their local life. Not to mention his deadbeat college dropout cousin being a wealthy self-made man with work ethic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 16:51:44 No.113771281 Report

Quoted By: >>113771357 >>113778192

>>113767641
Spinny strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 16:59:36 No.113771357 Report

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>>113771281
That spring coil wind-up ain’t just for show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 17:19:01 No.113771603 Report

Quoted By: >>113772221

>>113767625
I'm not sure Gem S. could form his own personality. Steven's self comes from his brain, and his diamond seems to be a magic battery fueling his power and instant recovery. Rose essentially wiped herself from her gem to make Steven, leaving it as a blank OS for Steven's human brain to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 18:02:24 No.113772221 Report

Quoted By: >>113773092

>>113771603
The two ways to look at him in CYM is either he’s an emotional blank other that he can feel anger and is far stronger without flesh Steven but wants the positive feelings from him, or he’s where most of the trauma is and was trying to control himself until he could reunite with flesh Steven.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 18:59:49 No.113773092 Report

Quoted By: >>113773519

>>113772221
I always saw him as similar to how Pink was to White, the part Steven repressed

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 19:28:20 No.113773519 Report

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>>113773092
Ouch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 19:34:04 No.113773605 Report

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>>113770603
This is why Andy is based as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 20:17:06 No.113774200 Report

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>>113768141
Nothing but all his power

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 20:26:05 No.113774315 Report

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>>113768141
I’ve got the theory that a small part of Pink Steven remained a bit independent like most Gem Fusions, and was split between giving flesh Steven the ability to survive and grow to make them both stronger and unlocking Pink’s powers early. Its why Steven stopped growing, Pink Steven tried to give him as many powers as he could as quickly as possible once the monsters became a thing before getting back to growing up. Pink Steven seems to be far more uncontrollable, so I’m thinking that flesh Steven has the emotional capacity to master their powers early, like if Pink Steven tried to fly he would be unable to calm himself down enough to ascend or descend intentionally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 20:33:38 No.113774434 Report

Quoted By: >>113774502

>>113767711
>>113767714
Irl I think Becky realized to late the horrible implications of being immortal so she gave Steven an arbitrary and permanent offswitch si that fans who are kids don't get sad about thinking Steven's sad life a billions years in the future

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 20:37:47 No.113774502 Report

Quoted By: >>113774575

>>113774434
Given there’s a settlement of Gems that love human culture on Earth, I can see a generation of hybrids starting to appear.

He’s just the first.

Plus, you know. Pink Connie.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 20:41:49 No.113774575 Report

Quoted By: >>113775476 >>113776240

>>113774502
they might love human culture, but not to the point they commit suicide, that was a crazy Rosa thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 20:42:01 No.113774579 Report

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>>113768523
It is okay to punch racists though

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 21:39:14 No.113775476 Report

Quoted By: >>113776240

>>113774575
Nah, there’s gotta be more lusty Gens with self-loathing and survivor’s guilt out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 22:24:34 No.113776094 Report

Quoted By: >>113776575

>>113767711
Could be the human body provides something the Gem can’t

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 22:34:27 No.113776240 Report

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>>113774575
I'm pretty sure she doesn't had no bust while in that form.
>>113775476
Abuse from his mother.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 22:51:43 No.113776575 Report

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>>113776094
>Could be the human body provides something the Gem can’t
Gem Steven was emotionless other than anger until he touched flesh Steven and they both began to laugh while Fusing back together.

Either Pink Steven is such an emotional wreck that he needs humanity to get a Smokey Quartz effect on their collective happiness, or he literally cannot feel happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 23:50:37 No.113778080 Report

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How CPS not taken Steven away from Greg?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Mar 2020 23:55:51 No.113778192 Report

Quoted By: >>113779168

>>113771281
Why is a court jester so goddamn strong?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:00:54 No.113778292 Report

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>>113768203
Well, today's episode of SUF answered your question, so...

Yes.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:02:31 No.113778340 Report

Quoted By: >>113778554 >>113778601 >>113779362

>>113767625
>Steven sees his dad Greg break into a house
>Greg doesn't really explain why
>Steven looks through the house to leave a note and finds out it's his grandparents home
>Greg doesn't want talk about anything other than a CD he wanted to get
>Greg dismisses the grandparents as overbearing
>Greg starts playing the CD and Steven finds out, to his dissapointment and annoyance, that Greg allowed some vague song lyrics guide his life choices more than his family.
>Life choices that led to him living an aimless life, a life he mistakenly believes does have an aim
>Steven then realises Greg idiotically decided to raise his him so off-hands he didn't even think basic education and health care mattered.
>Greg just says freedom is everything and that Steven has it better than he, even though Steven is clearly upset he didn't even get to know his own granparents because of Greg's decisions
>After a car crash, Greg just tries to take it cool and offers Ice Cream, clearly not understanding what his son actually needs.

... So uh, yeah... The show actually acknowledged that Greg is not a good father. Until now it just seemed like we were just meant to think he was totally fine because of his laid back attitude..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:06:28 No.113778446 Report

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>>113767625
there's a fanfic about his called the glass gemstone on archiveofourown. bretty good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:10:53 No.113778554 Report

Quoted By: >>113778613 >>113778976

>>113778340
that's how the cycle goes. Strict parents raise rebellious kids, who grow up to be careless parents, who raise neglected kids, who grow up to be strict parents.
It has worked like that since time immemorial.
Greg is not a "bad father", he gave his son all that he has always wanted to have growing up.
And teenagers always want what they don't have. "normal" children grow up wanting to be special, and "special" children grow up wanting to be normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:11:13 No.113778563 Report

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>>113768281
>fuses with Connie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:12:38 No.113778601 Report

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>>113778340
So basically he's a hippy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:13:04 No.113778613 Report

Quoted By: >>113778651

>>113778554
>that's how the cycle goes. Strict parents raise rebellious kids, who grow up to be careless parents, who raise neglected kids, who grow up to be strict parents.
>It has worked like that since time immemorial.

Not in stable societies no.
Not ever.
That "cycle" is a contrived lie created specifically to allow for the kind of brainwashing evil this show is pushign on impressionable minds when they are at their most vulnerable and ungaurded.

Leaving a kid alone with this show is like leaving them alone with the guy who constructed the concept of gender.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:14:32 No.113778651 Report

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>>113778613
>Not in stable societies no.
If by "stable societies" you mean "brainwashed religious cults" then I agree with you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:19:55 No.113778787 Report

Quoted By: >>113785592

So, y'all ready for Godzilla Rose next week?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:28:33 No.113778976 Report

Quoted By: >>113779026 >>113779696

>>113778554
>Greg is not a "bad father"
Except we're talking about the man who never provided his child with education or hardly anything else that's useful. He basically decided to leave him with a bunch of clueless aliens and treat him more like friend he meets on weekdays than a son. And another reminder here, he never took him to see his grandparents, or any family members for that matter. They just sort bumped into Andy by coincidence and the first time Steven hears anything about his grandparents, is the time his father just breaks into their house to take a CD that guided his life in an idiotic way.

You don't have to be abusive, negligent or spoiling to be a bad parent. He's a clueless jackass with out of whack priorities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:30:44 No.113779026 Report

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>>113778976
Why is that hot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:36:03 No.113779168 Report

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>>113778192
Her cut is perfect. Like Jasper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:44:38 No.113779362 Report

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>>113778340
This is the 6th time you've posted this, fucking stop.
https://find.4chan.org/?q=The+show+actually+acknowledged+that+Greg+is+not+a+good+father.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:46:08 No.113779400 Report

Quoted By: >>113779529

Gregg isn't a bad father, he clearly cares a great deal about Steven and would never intentionally try to hurt him. He's just a bit extreme in his thinking about what a kid needs, prioritizing freedom over everything.

Steven is having a really tough time, he's a teenager and he has PTSD and his experience in life is pretty unique. Of course, he's going to get mad and wish he had grown up with more structure. Most teenagers want a different life than the one they have, and most people realize their parents are full of shit around the time they become teenagers.

As we all know, Steven is going to leave at the end of the series. He's absolutely right when he says he needs some space. Figuring out who you are and what you want takes time and experiences. Getting away from what's familiar and away from the social obligations that are making him so uncomfortable is exactly what he needs. Jasper is right when she says his friends are holding him back. They still see him as a kid and that's how they relate to him. But he's ready to be seen differently, so he needs to leave and form new relationships that he can have an equal role in.

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Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:51:47 No.113779529 Report

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>>113779400
What people tend to forget is that everyone involved in raising Steven was basically in an impossible situation. I'm not surprised Steven was frustrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 00:59:53 No.113779696 Report

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>>113778976
There's the old "I won't raise my kids like my parents raised me".

Greg gave Steven the childhood he wish he had, but the crystal gem stuff got thrown into the mix.

He didn't do a great job but it's understandable how he got there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 01:07:51 No.113779863 Report

Quoted By: >>113781091

>>113768130

Refuse what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 02:07:56 No.113781091 Report

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>>113779863
To bow down?

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Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 02:57:40 No.113781924 Report

Quoted By: >>113783626

>steven drowns out his father in a subversion of the steven universe's own cliches and tropes
>steven is essentially a neoreactionary zoomer
Is fucking sugar based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 04:50:17 No.113783626 Report

Quoted By: >>113784326

>>113781924
God, Greg is useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 05:40:48 No.113784326 Report

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>>113783626
And the sky is blue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 21 Mar 2020 07:26:16 No.113785592 Report

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>>113778787
Yep

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