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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 16:40:18 2020 No.113453981 View Reply Original Report

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Issue #750 drops tomorrow, so I thought it’d be appropriate to look back at the Scarlet Speedsters career. Talking points
>When will Jay Garrick matter again?
>Why has the solo book been painfully mediocre to shit these past few years?
>Wally becoming The Flash Who Sits and getting his family back
>Thoughts on Avery Ho, The Flash of China?
>Thoughts on Year One?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 16:41:26 No.113453995 Report

Quoted By: >>113461664

barry bad
wally good

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 16:46:51 No.113454063 Report

Quoted By: >>113454092

>>113453981

I hope there's some good stories. But I've given up hope on the other speedsters returning

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 16:49:08 No.113454092 Report

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>>113454063
Isn’t it kind of weird how DC awkwardly keeps Wallace West, The New 52 version, around? It’s like they know full well creating him was a mistake but can’t retcon him out due to racism accusations

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:00:11 No.113454246 Report

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>>113453981
The solo book has been mediocre, because there is nothing that drives Barry the way Wally did. Wally was constantly trying to live up to Barry's legacy. It wasn't always at the forefront, but it was ultimately the underlying goal. I guess for Barry, becoming someone his dead mom would have been proud of is a goall, but that hasn't been relevant since the Zoom arc from the New 52.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:01:35 No.113454270 Report

Quoted By: >>113454305 >>113454355 >>113454400

>>113453981
Anyone else liked the Speed Force as it was before being overused?
At first was just like the heaven of the speedesters and the source of their powers.
But now what's it?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:04:15 No.113454305 Report

Quoted By: >>113454355 >>113456113

>>113454270
I liked the Waid Speedforce. It was important every now and then, like in the Savitar arc. Now every few arcs seem to be about the Speedforce. They should at least bring back Max if they're gonna keep this heavy focus on the Speedforce

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:08:12 No.113454355 Report

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>>113454270
>>113454305
How was the Speedforce different from now?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:10:52 No.113454400 Report

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>>113454270
>>113454355
From what I understand The Speedforce was created the moment Barry had the accident, and it’s a pocket dimension that fuels the passage of time for all creation.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:12:14 No.113454424 Report

Quoted By: >>113462128

>>113454400
you're wrong buddy, the speedforce was always there since it's one of the Souce Wall's inner forces.
Jay Garrick had it too

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:16:22 No.113454479 Report

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>>113454400
No one, not even the writers know what the Speedforce is. They constantly change its nature and how it works.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:24:34 No.113454583 Report

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>>113454092

Well I like him now as he's the only sidekick these days that still teams up with his mentor

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:30:30 No.113454657 Report

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>>113454355
The Speedforce used to be heaven for speedsters. Every dead speedster became part of it and once they were in, there was pretty much no way out anymore. The time Wally joined the Speedforce but actually got out was seen as an impossible achievement by Max Mercury. Nowadays, Barry seems to just run in and out of the Speedforce whenever he feels like it. The Speedforce doesn't feel as special anymore, not like how it was before. I can accept the Death of the Speedforce arc, that felt like a logical continuation of the old Speedforce. But during the New 52, Barry went in and out of the Speedforce multiple times and in Rebirth he did it at least once (when he was told Wally died in Sanctuary and Barry went into the Speedforce to look for him).

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:32:05 No.113454682 Report

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>>113454583
Ollie and Emiko used to team up all the time when there was still a Green Arrow on-going. Wallace definitely showed up the most in his mentor's book out of all the sidekicks though

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:32:37 No.113454691 Report

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>>113454657
Wait, so Speedesters that use the speedforce can't go to heaven or hell?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:35:27 No.113454728 Report

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>>113454691
Depends on the writer. Barry was actually in heaven in the Kevin Smith Green Arrow story. And Reverse Flash was scared of going to hell in that animated Suicide Squad movie. But in the Flash and Impulse books, all speedsters generally go to the speedforce when they die

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:37:41 No.113454762 Report

Quoted By: >>113454908

>>113454691
>>113454728
You forgot the part where Black Flash fucking runs into the room to collect you and return the speedster to the source. Nightmare fuel

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:38:12 No.113454769 Report

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>>113454657
Okay I get it.
But how does it works? Everyone can be a conduit to it?
And it's power is just from the dead speedesters? Without them the speedforce wouldn't work?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:42:13 No.113454829 Report

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>>113454769
It’s not fueled by speedsters, it’s just the borrowed energy returning to the source and their souls going along with it. Please don’t make this a thing where we dissect how the speedforce works, because we’ll be here all night with no good answer

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:47:54 No.113454908 Report

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>>113454762
Oh yeah, that's true. Imagine being a speedster who just averted his own death, only for a super fast apex predator zombie to enter your room and try to drain your lifeforce.

>>113454769
I think pretty much everyone has the potential to become a speedster nowadays. Iris did it, Grodd did it, a shitload of randos did it during the first Rebirth arc.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:50:41 No.113454954 Report

Quoted By: >>113454976

>>113454829
>Please don’t make this a thing where we dissect how the speedforce works, because we’ll be here all night with no good answer
Hey, we need something to discuss other than Barry Bad and Wally Good

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:52:35 No.113454976 Report

Quoted By: >>113455126 >>113457962 >>113460160

>>113454954
How about this; are Max Mercury and Jesse Quick worth bringing back?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 17:59:18 No.113455126 Report

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>>113454976
Hell yeah they are. Someone needs to take care of Bart once Bendis stops dragging the Young Justice crew through the Multiverse for every arc. Jesse would also be interesting, just because she is pretty different for a speedster. More important question is, should Johnny Quick be brought back?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 18:09:04 No.113455275 Report

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>>113453981
>When will Jay Garrick matter again?
When DC feels like giving flash books a sales bump for a bit while they prepare for their next line of Joker , Batman and Harley Quinn comics
>Why has the solo book been painfully mediocre to shit these past few years?
Because it’s mostly just Williamson setting up future plot threads as if he’ll be taken off the book after the current arc he’s been writing. I will say that he writes a hell of a good Eobard tho.
>Wally becoming The Flash Who Sits and getting his family back
He’s back! And look they’re back, now we can all pretend HiC and Rebirth didn’t utterly ruin Wally for the next decade.
>Thoughts on Avery Ho, The Flash of China?
She cute, I miss the JLC
>Thoughts on Year One?
Pretty lame to be honest, it should have been it’s own stand alone story rather than being just another arc in Flash.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 18:46:46 No.113455848 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 18:52:06 No.113455935 Report

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>>113455848
The four people who have called themselves the Flash
>and also Wallace for some reason
I guess this means Jay will be back soon. Maybe also that Wallace will become the Flash in 5G, we'll see

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:01:01 No.113456063 Report

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>>113455848
nice cover, shame that wallace west doesn't have its own costume.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:03:51 No.113456093 Report

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>>113453981
Fuck all of this, where’s Max?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:05:21 No.113456113 Report

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>>113454305
I agree. Speed force worked when it was more spiritual and metaphysics than something that is linked to a singular person. It being nirvana for speedsters was a neat concept that unfortunately became twisted to nothing more than a common power source

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:09:26 No.113456164 Report

Quoted By: >>113456222 >>113456440

>>113453981
> Muh Wally thread again.

Look, i love Wally too, but this is bullshit. Williamson's run on the Flash is ok, nothing too great, but has his moments.
You wanna talk about shiting on the Flash? Then make it a Heroes in Crisis thread.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:12:15 No.113456202 Report

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Written by: Francis Manapul, Geoff Johns, Michael Moreci, Mary Wolfman, Joshua Williamson, others.

Art by: Rafa Sandoval, Jordi Tarragona, Scott Kolins, Stephen Segovia, David Marquez, Bryan Hitch, Francis Manapul, Riley Rossmo.

Covers by: Howard Porter, Nicole Scott, Gary Frank, Nick Derington, Jose-Luis Garcia Lopez, Gabriele Dell-Otto, Jim Lee,

Description: Beginning: "The Flash Age." The story we've been building toward since issue #50 comes to a head! While a supercharged Speed Force wreaks havoc on Barry Allen's life, a new threat appears on the horizon in the form of the deadly Paradox. Destined to destroy the Flash's legacy, Paradox sends his herald, Godspeed, to trap the Flash family! Plus, in this special anniversary issue: tales from across the generations of super-speedsters by an all-star lineup of writers and artists!

Pages: 60.

Price: $7.99.

In stores: March 4.

ONLY VARIANT COVERS

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:12:52 No.113456219 Report

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1950s

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:13:00 No.113456222 Report

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>>113456164
That wasn’t the thread at all

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:13:26 No.113456228 Report

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1960s

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:13:59 No.113456236 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:15:11 No.113456257 Report

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1950 with gary frank,1980,1990,2010 are the best ones.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:15:44 No.113456266 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:16:18 No.113456276 Report

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2000s by Jim Lee is the worst one.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:16:51 No.113456283 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:20:35 No.113456332 Report

Quoted By: >>113456813

>>113456276
Jeez. His art really has gotten worse over the years, hasn't it? Sad to see the guy that basically taught me how to draw become such a lazy artist

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:20:37 No.113456333 Report

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>>113456202
>>113456219
>>113456228
>>113456236
>>113456257
>>113456266
>>113456276
>>113456283
I hate how generic a lot of these look. How are they celebrations of a decade if there is barely anything tying them to that specific decade?
40s and 50s are exceptions, because those both make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:26:28 No.113456440 Report

Quoted By: >>113460008

>>113456164
What are you talking about? The only reference to Wally in the op was about Flash Foward

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:27:35 No.113456454 Report

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>>113456063
That’s not a cover, that’s a piece of interior art for #750

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:29:14 No.113456484 Report

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>>113455935
If it was about the Flash name Avery would be on the page instead of Wallace

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:37:38 No.113456618 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:46:19 No.113456735 Report

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>>113456063
>they all say to jump straight to #62
Boo

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:53:16 No.113456806 Report

Quoted By: >>113456909

>>113456618
Cute. I really wish Johns’ second run didn’t get cut short. People have said he planned to bring Don and Dawn back. Barry deserves to be happy with a family too, dammit!

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 19:53:42 No.113456813 Report

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>>113456332
It probably has to do with him being allot more busy these days so he doesn't have enough time to put allot of care into his art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 20:01:42 No.113456909 Report

Quoted By: >>113457097

>>113456806
That would have been wonderful, I really hope Geoff gets to write Flash again at some point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 20:13:34 No.113457097 Report

Quoted By: >>113457452 >>113457531

>>113456909
I do too, but I doubt it.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 20:37:17 No.113457452 Report

Quoted By: >>113457531 >>113457749

>>113457097
Yeah, Johns seems to be kinda done with comics. I can maybe see him doing something with the Rogues, but his Flash days are over

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 20:38:44 No.113457485 Report

Quoted By: >>113457857

I'll still defend Williamson's run. It's solid comics.

Hopefully we'll get Wally back soon.

I'm still super butthurt Wally got shafted on the Flash 750 covers

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 20:39:59 No.113457502 Report

Quoted By: >>113457587 >>113460160

I've only been lightly browsing issues at store. Are Linda and the kids full on back, or is there some fake out bullshit going on here?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 20:41:57 No.113457531 Report

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>>113457097
>>113457452
I really hope he comes back once he has an editorial team not hellbent in fucking with his runs halfway through.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 20:45:47 No.113457587 Report

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>>113457502
Seems they’re full on back.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 20:55:09 No.113457749 Report

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>>113457452
I mean he’s still doing Shazam! So he’s not completely out

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:00:39 No.113457857 Report

Quoted By: >>113457884

>>113457485
I haven’t really caught up post Flash War, but overall I think he has some good ideas and had really good set ups that got fucked over by editorial... Mainly Wally being the Flash of Keystone and Bart coming back and looking for Wally and Max

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:02:25 No.113457884 Report

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>>113457857
I made a whole writeup about how the two worst bits of Williamson’s run probably aren’t actually his fault. Pic related.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:06:31 No.113457962 Report

Quoted By: >>113458362 >>113460160

>>113454976
Yes, if you back Jesse you can bring back Johnny and if you bring back Johnny Quick you can bring back the All-Star Squadron.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:06:35 No.113457963 Report

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>>113457884
Most of the Flash's run since new52 has seemed like it's ideas get put on hold or are just filler while waiting for the crossovers and Justice League events. One of the things that made Wally's run so good was there was less of that in general.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:29:39 No.113458362 Report

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>>113457962
Well there was that one Snickers ad comic that came out during Rebirth, where she was featured prominently

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:34:29 No.113458446 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:35:43 No.113458468 Report

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>>113458362
>Snickers ad comic
Oh my god, poor girl

>>113457884
I don’t disagree, but he absolutely could have executed the forced on ideas better. Still, I don’t blame him for not putting in that much effort

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:38:00 No.113458514 Report

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>>113456063
I'm gonna level with you anon, Messner-Loebs run ain't bad at all and some parts are actually kino.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:51:59 No.113458797 Report

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>>113458468
I mean for an advertisement it was pretty decent and it was nice to see Jessie take the spotlight

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:53:55 No.113458841 Report

Quoted By: >>113460160

>>113458362
>be arguably the most important female speedster
>get new costume after Flash Rebirth
>dad is killed off forever, but whatever, at least you have a new costume
>only get a few really small cameos
>get silently written out with Flashpoint
>Wally eventually returns
>Bart returns
>Jay is about to return for real
>what do you get?
>a Snickers ad
>a fucking Snickers ad
Being Jesse is suffering

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 21:58:06 No.113458919 Report

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>>113458468
He definitely could have done it better. I’m just saying, I don’t think he wanted to even do it. Editorial asked him to add forces to accompany the Still Force, and what kind of writer would he be if he references something like that and never pursued it?

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:04:06 No.113459042 Report

Quoted By: >>113459115

Williamson is going to be the longest modern Flash writer and he hasn't done a single good story

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:06:08 No.113459085 Report

Quoted By: >>113459139 >>113459684 >>113462706

Interesting bit from a recent interview with Johns and Kolins
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/geoff-johns-talks-the-flash-750-captain-cold-and-why-wally-west-is-his-favorite-flash

>Captain Cold isn't your run of the mill villain in that he's got a strict code. What do you like about writing him?

>Johns: I just love that he's a grounded, blue-collar guy. He's not out to rule the world or slaughter people for fun, he's really living hand to mouth and he's got feelings and relationships with family and Keystone City. There's not a lot of ego there, he's got confidence in him but he's not trying to get his name on the front page of a newspaper. He's just a compelling character because his feet are so on the ground.

>Working on the character, people thought he was a second rate Mr. Freeze. But one of Scott and my favorite issues, if not the favorite, was The Flash #182, which was the first of our Rogues spotlights. It's the story of Captain Cold and all he wanted to do was get revenge on the man that killed his sister. It was a really great story to work on. I'd love a Captain Cold monthly book. I think Scott and I could do that book forever. It would be a character-driven book. To me, he's a character in the same vein as a lot of other anti-heroes. He's this kind of cool, methodical and moral character. He's got rules too. With the Rogues, there are "Don't Kill Cops," "Don't Kill Superheroes," there's too much heat for that, "Don't Kill Unless You Have To," "No Drugs." He's got this moral code he adheres to and even in our short story that's coming through.

Johns and Kolins would both be up for a Cold ongoing. DC is probably afraid it wouldn't sell well though, because this definitely has potential

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:07:11 No.113459115 Report

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>>113459042
Running Scared is arguably a good story, maybe the best Barry story there is

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:08:28 No.113459139 Report

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>>113459085
>No Drugs
lol

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:14:50 No.113459282 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:36:20 No.113459684 Report

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>>113459085
A Rogues book in the same vein as Superior Foes would be an amazing book
Especially if it was by Johns

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:43:49 No.113459848 Report

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:48:25 No.113459945 Report

Quoted By: >>113460124

Avery is cute
Godspeed is trash

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:51:25 No.113460008 Report

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>>113456440
Guy is trying to start shit.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:57:33 No.113460118 Report

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>>113459684
If we ever get a Rogues book, I hope it's with the pre-Flashpoint crew though. Or at the very least Mardon with his old characterization and Evan instead of Sam.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:57:53 No.113460124 Report

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>>113459945
She really is a fun character

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:59:42 No.113460160 Report

Quoted By: >>113460258 >>113460306

>>113454976
>>113457962
>>113458841
Was Jesse at least with the returned JSA in Doomsday Clock?

>>113458362
Anyway this can be pretended to be canon? I want Jesse back so much.

>>113457502
The kids are back and with Linda, who has memories back. But wally got promoted to taking over for one of Metron's avatars so he's not allowed to be with them.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 22:59:44 No.113460161 Report

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I just want say that both John Wesley Shipp (aside from Mark Hamill) is one of the best actors of the Franchise

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:00:37 No.113460183 Report

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>>113456283
I preordered this cover

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:02:16 No.113460215 Report

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Just Wanted to say that John Wesley Shipp is one of the Best more prolific Actors of the Franchise (aside from Mark Hamill)

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:04:35 No.113460258 Report

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>>113460160
>Was Jesse at least with the returned JSA in Doomsday Clock?

I think, but it was as Liberty Belle so it’s either Jessie or her mother

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:07:30 No.113460306 Report

Quoted By: >>113460369

>>113460160
It's unclear, although I'm leaning towards no. Liberty Belle was with the JSA and Jesse has taken over that mantle in the past. But I assume that if Jesse were to return, she'd just come back as Jesse Quick

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:08:34 No.113460331 Report

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I really want Max back

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:10:42 No.113460369 Report

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>>113460306
I mean it looked like Johns JSA, so I could easily see it being Jesse

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:12:06 No.113460396 Report

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>>113460331
I’ve heard Williamson wanted to use him for the New Forces arc but got cockblocked.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:12:16 No.113460400 Report

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>>113460331
So do I. I finished reading the entire Impulse series last week and that shit was so much fun. Getting rid of Max at the end was one of the worst creative moves ever, especially since they never did anything with the Rival taking over his body

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:24:54 No.113460617 Report

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>>113453981
Jay Garrick will never be relevant again. Maybe in that hypothetical JSA comic that's been in the works for 5 years.

Joshua Williamson is has been broken since Flash War. I read an interview where he says Wally was going to take over. He explains how Barry was Johns' flash and why Johns brought him back. Wally is his flash and plans to bring him back. If you read flash war you can see it being set up. then HEROES IN CRISIS happened. Didio fucked his comic. months of plot outline fucked. if you read Flash around the time HiC was out the plots were very weak. Then he's told he needs to support the JL bullshit Snyder is doing with these other mysteries forces. Ultimately none of it mattered. Year One sounds like it was another assignment rather than something born of passion. Williamson has checked out from seriously writing The Flash since he got fucked over with the Wally thing. Now they're making Wally important with the chair thing. if i were him I'd be fucking pissed.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:26:00 No.113460635 Report

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>>113453981
Does anyone else fucking hate the random yellow lines and lightning bullshit they fill the need to fill Flash's costume with these days? I really miss the solid red broken up by just a little yellow here and there.

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Anonymous Tue 03 Mar 2020 23:27:47 No.113460664 Report

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>>113453981
I fucking hate how artists always feel the need to show redheads with red costumes where the shades of red are just off a little bit. They do this shit with Wally and with Jean Grey all the time. If you're gonna have a ginger in red, cover that shit up.

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>>113453995
FPBP

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 00:29:53 No.113461725 Report

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So if the Flash family makes a comeback, now that continuity is getting fixed
It'll consist of

>Jay
>Max Mercury
>Barry
>Wally
>Don/Dawn
>Jai/Iris
>Bart
>XS
>Johnny Quick (Good)
Unless he's still dead?
>Jesse Quick
Who was shown to be Liberty Belle again in Doomsday Clock, so maybe not?
>Wallace
>Avery

That's a lot of fucking speedsters

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 00:44:49 No.113461981 Report

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>>113461725
Well for one thing Jai is no longer a speedster since Flash Rebirth where Irey took the power

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 00:45:50 No.113461999 Report

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>>113461725
>Jay
Will probably be mostly retired and be in the JSA book to train younger heroes
>Max
Hopefully will be Bart's guardian again. They can be contained in some bumfuck nowhere town
>Barry
Central City's Flash
>Wally
Keystone's Flash
>Don/Dawn
They will probably stay in the future
>Jai/Iris
Only Iris is still a speedster I think. She will probably join Wally every once in a while and maybe be on Teen Titans
>Bart
See Max. Will also stay on Young Justice, so as long as Bendis keeps them away from Prime Earth, it should all be good
>XS
Will stay in the future
>Johnny Quick
Might just retire again, like Pre-Flashpoint
>Jesse Quick
No idea what they will do with her
>Wallace
I guess Barry will keep mentoring him
>Avery
Will stay in China

If Johnny will be alive, it's only three more than Pre-Flashpoint and only Barry, Wally, Bart, Wallace and Avery will be actively superhero'ing. It should be fine, they will probably all stay in their own cities and only crossover every few arcs. Writers will just have to find excuses like "Jay is busy with the JSA, he can't help against the Rogues for now", but that already happens with people like Superman around

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 00:48:57 No.113462065 Report

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>>113454657
Wally also tried to go back into the Speedforce to get his kids out and Barry tried like hell to stop him.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 00:53:11 No.113462128 Report

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>>113454424
Wasn't Jay powered up by Mercury's favor?

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 00:57:53 No.113462221 Report

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>When will Jay mattee again?
Probably after 5G Generation 1 but WW 750 had a JSA tease so maybe we'll get a decemt amount of story tomorrow

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 00:58:50 No.113462240 Report

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Just read #750. It's not bad. They did focus on this as a jumping on point, unlike Wonder Woman #750. About a third of the first story is a recap of what's happened, I haven't been reading the title and didn't feel lost about anything. Beast story was either the Johns one about Captain Cold or the Wolfman one with Mirror Master. About half of the Flash Forward story is a recap of Wally's status quo, with the rest setting up an apparent combining of the Pre and Post-Flashpoint timelines.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:00:04 No.113462269 Report

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>>113462128
Do you mean the Earth 2 incarnation?

Because OG Jay has a fairly similar origin to Barry in that he was a scientist working on Hard Water there was an accident and he gained Speed Powers due to that

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:03:28 No.113462323 Report

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>>113462240
Whats the Jay story about? Is he back in the modern day et?

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:03:29 No.113462324 Report

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>>113462269
Yeah, the only Jay stories I've ever read were the New 52 Earth 2 comics. I thought that was his actual origin though, it complimented the whole magic vs tech thing the Green Lanterns had between generations.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:03:56 No.113462327 Report

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Where the fuck is the TalkBack thread

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>>113462327
No Flash today, because Murican politics

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>>113462324
Well Anon you are in Luck cause I was just about to storytime the first Flash Comic

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>>113462323
It's him fighting the Thinker in 1940. Another piece of the 5G timeline, with him mentioning Wonder Woman getting involved in Europe.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:13:16 No.113462478 Report

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Wally West is pointless.

Impulse is a better sidekick. Barry is better Flash

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>>113456618
Was it ever confirmed that the future of them being evil was just Thawne fucking with Barry?

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:16:19 No.113462533 Report

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>>113462356
Sad x_x

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:27:23 No.113462698 Report

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>>113462371
Why thank you

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:28:06 No.113462706 Report

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>>113459085
As someone whom's read an early copy this weekend, their Cold story in #750 is a riot. I dug all the stories, and that's including the FF epilogue.
>>113462323
There's a RF easter egg in that he taunts Jay that he's ultimately going to be forgotten due to Flashpoint, and a hook that Jay will be returning in the main book this year.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:29:06 No.113462719 Report

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>>113459139
Well you see, tobacco and booze are legal so they're not drugs according to the average person, let alone to Mr. Trailer Trash.
>>113462483
>Joan's a scientist too
Huh, didn't know that.
>>113462648
Thanks for storytiming, anon! Those are some impressively clean scans too, GA stuff often looks like garbage.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:34:19 No.113462779 Report

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>>113462579
I like the whole panel explaining the "science" behind the feat. Reminds me of Otokojuku and their ancient chinese martial arts.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:36:12 No.113462808 Report

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>>113462706
About the spoiler: does that mean Williamson will stay on for longer than 100 issues? Because we have Flash Age first and after that a weird team-up of RF, Trickster, the Snarts and Grodd. Don't think spoiler would fit in here, so it would have to be afterwards.

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:50:07 No.113463023 Report

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>>113462808
I mean if Editorial stays in their fucking lane and let’s Williamson actually write a story he wants to tell I’m all for him staying on

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 01:59:54 No.113463189 Report

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>>113462719
>Thanks for storytiming, anon! Those are some impressively clean scans too, GA stuff often looks like garbage

I pulled it off of ReadComicsOnline, I was planning to do Johnny Quick and Max Mercury/Quicksilver as well but the scans for their First Appearance are more or less unreadable.

I really hope after DC is done collecting The Silver Age Flash they start working on a Golden Age collection

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 02:19:09 No.113463484 Report

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>>113462808
Porter said in an interview last week that he was working on drawing RF for his next arc Probably Reverse Flash War after this arc and that he's excited to see Williamson's run get to a 100 issue run. Whether that means that he's ending at 100 or that he's going past remains to be seen.

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Bait not taken

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 03:17:43 No.113464395 Report

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Jay really is best boy

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 03:18:56 No.113464418 Report

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>>113463403
a cute

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 03:20:49 No.113464450 Report

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>>113453981
It's bizarre that of all the justice league china characters Avery is the one consistently around. That group needs to return

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 03:23:47 No.113464504 Report

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>>113464450
Green Snake did appear in Wonder Woman not to long ago, maybe Orlando will make her a recurring Character

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 03:25:11 No.113464524 Report

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>>113456063
Add Flash Forward to this. Its been a fun read

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Anonymous Wed 04 Mar 2020 03:29:25 No.113464588 Report

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>>113464504
Well its not like Donna or Artemis appear in Diana's book these days

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>>113464588
Donna is actually showing up in a few months.

Kind of divided on Artemis. On one hand I want her back in Diana's book in a regular presence, but she and Jason have good chemistry. It's kind of hard to have her running with Jason and Biz and also have her hanging with Diana at the same time. If they had just sent her over to Diana's book last time they tried to write her out of outlaws instead of another dimension I probably wouldn't have minded. If they end up ending RH at #50 as the rumors go I hope she just gets moved back over to Wonder Woman.

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