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ITT: Tropes you hate

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 08:13:05 2020 No.112995858 View Reply Original Report

>episode ends on a dramatic cliffhanger
>the next one picks up with a different version of the event happening
WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE IT THE SAME

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 08:13:56 No.112995866 Report

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>>112995858
sometimes, it can be used to reveal information

it never is though.

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 08:20:57 No.112995916 Report

Quoted By: >>112996929 >>113008032

>character dies or leaves the group
>a new character replaces them
>a future episode/scene/plotline makes you wish that the original character was still around
>mfw a character I like got cucked out of a great moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 10:16:25 No.112996728 Report

Quoted By: >>112999225 >>113000471 >>113000553 >>113000984 >>113005910 >>113006400 >>113006635 >>113017960

>episode ends in dramatic cliffhanger
>next episode
>sike lmao it wasnt important, isnt it genius that your expectations were completely deflated? silly you expecting any modicum of honest engagement, thats super cringe bro, you should be constantly on the guard from the super awesome mentalist writers and their paradigm shifting genius
when did the soul die?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 10:33:02 No.112996852 Report

Quoted By: >>112998342 >>112998453 >>112999501 >>113003420 >>113004987 >>113012982 >>113017049

>>112995858
>Characters go their separate ways to show growth instead of growth being shown through overcoming adversity
>Boys vs girls
>The protagonist pines after another character- we never see the protagonist from the other character's prospective
>The main character is an underdog - they're revealed to have been special all along
>Plots hinging on misunderstandings
>The main character never asks questions
>Characters don't talk and instead assume what the other character is thinking (this works for characters with autism but not every character has autism)
>If there are two siblings - the brother is the smart one and the sister is the creative one
>Plot twists can't be telegraphed and somewhat guessable they always have to surprise everybody

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 10:36:13 No.112996875 Report

Quoted By: >>112997406 >>112999941

>episode ends on a dramatic cliffhanger
>the next one solves it in the first few minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 10:47:17 No.112996929 Report

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>>112995916
>liking cucks
If they weren't cucks, they would stayed alive. They got what they deserved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 12:02:41 No.112997406 Report

Quoted By: >>112997433 >>112998198

>>112996875
It's usually first episode of the new season.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 12:07:21 No.112997433 Report

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>>112997406
Especially if the finale of the season and the premier of the new season are a two part episode together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 12:28:46 No.112997562 Report

Quoted By: >>112999630 >>113003444 >>113021344

>>112995858
That's why it's called a cliffhanger.
It goes back long before animation existed.
Movie theaters used to run weekly serials. The hero's car plunges over a cliff.
HOW WILL JOHN STAINLESS ESCAPE?
WILL REX ROTTEN HAVE HIS WAY WITH THE FAIR MELISSA?
NEXT SATURDAY: EPISODE 14, THE TRIUMPH OF EVIL.

Next Saturday recaps the final seconds of the last episode, but from a different angle. John Stainless manages to cut his bonds and gets out of the car one second before it falls off the cliff.

The technical term is "cheating" or simply "lazy writing"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 13:25:50 No.112998010 Report

Quoted By: >>113000424 >>113014840

>> Cartoon never accomplishes its series goal
It's been a bad habit for decades and can lead to veneer fanfiction.

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 13:47:11 No.112998159 Report

Quoted By: >>113001552 >>113002155

>>112995858
Not /co/ but an example that fits that trope
>Goku flies out of Frieza's ship after it fails to work
>he looks around Namek desperate and screams in anger as the planet explodes seconds later
>whole filler arc with that cliffhanger
>Goku finally returns
>"How did you get off of Namek, Goku?"
>"Oh, when I was in Frieza's ship, I saw one of the Ginyu pods falling beside me and hopped in!"

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 13:51:49 No.112998198 Report

Quoted By: >>113000496

>>112997406
>Show jumps the shark

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:05:34 No.112998306 Report

Quoted By: >>112998370 >>112999235 >>112999547 >>112999903 >>113013471 >>113019080

>>112995858
>oh no, this is bad
>how bad?
>last time it happened, dinosaurs went extinct
Never liked "the extinction of dinosaurs wasn't caused by what you think, it was actually caused by the thing on our show" as a way to indicate how destructive a character/phenomenon is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:09:13 No.112998342 Report

Quoted By: >>112998801 >>113013750 >>113020589

>>112996852
>misunderstanding trope
GOD I HATE THOSE SO MUCH THEY ARE THE LAZIEST FORM OF WRITING

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:09:55 No.112998346 Report

Quoted By: >>113021497

>>112995858
>character improves themself by learning a new skill or getting rid of a bad trait
>this causes them to be successful and move away or become very busy
>their family or friends miss them and want things to go back to how they were so the character reverts back to an unsuccessful loser
>JUST BEEEEEE YOURSELF :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:12:43 No.112998370 Report

Quoted By: >>112998434 >>113000825

>>112998306
It has been so reused that I'm honestly interested in how long a list that named every single fictional cause for the dinosaurs' extinction would be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:14:01 No.112998383 Report

Quoted By: >>113005885

>>112995858

HE DIDN'T GET OUT OF THE COCK A DOODIE CAR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br5umHOm3TM

She might have been crazy but the bitch has a point here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:18:48 No.112998434 Report

Quoted By: >>113000825

>>112998370
Probably just a bit shorter than "X actually killed Hitler."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:21:19 No.112998453 Report

Quoted By: >>112998625 >>112998881

>>112996852
>The protagonist pines after another character- we never see the protagonist from the other
I had never realized that I needed that before

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:38:50 No.112998625 Report

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>>112998453
If a show doesn't take place crom that character's persepctive, there might not be room to show it. Although I suppose most American cartoons wouldn't give two shits about a one-off episode from another character's perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:54:54 No.112998801 Report

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>>112998342
Marvel thrives on it ever since Human Torch I vs Namor. Unfortunately it's also the reason plenty of villains pull off Karma Houdini.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 14:58:06 No.112998840 Report

Quoted By: >>113005126

>>112995858
>Something really fucked up happens
>Main character starts singing the title song because he doesn't want to deal with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 15:02:19 No.112998881 Report

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>>112998453
This one particularly draws my ire. Because characters who are pining after another character are usually putting them on a pedestal. You know that. Other characters tend to know that. But the character, who is pining, doesn't and it leads to a lot of drawn out padding as you're waiting for them to get a reality check. Seeing a character deal with another character, who is pining after them, flips the script and gives more nuance to the situation.
Really, I just want anything that helps make the process more interesting. Because it can only go one of two ways. The character pining gets what they want or get turned down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 15:27:09 No.112999168 Report

Quoted By: >>113000341

>>112995858
>anger hiding more anger
here's a trope I actually really like
>angry character learns that they don't need to be calm to be their best, they need to embrace their anger instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A6h729SFv0

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 15:32:08 No.112999225 Report

Quoted By: >>113000553

>>112996728
This, just this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 15:33:39 No.112999235 Report

Quoted By: >>113001107

>>112998306
Aw screw you, that's a fun trope. Unless it's really poorly executed, it almost always gets a laugh out of me.

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 15:46:32 No.112999413 Report

Quoted By: >>113001479 >>113001485 >>113013811 >>113017195 >>113018144

>Power of friendship
The only way it'd be cool is if the villains used it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 15:52:29 No.112999501 Report

Quoted By: >>112999622

>>112996852
>The main character is an underdog - they're revealed to have been special all along
This is the worst one of all because it's almost always antithetical to the moral the show tries to preach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 15:55:47 No.112999547 Report

Quoted By: >>113001121

>>112998306
There's something I'm writing where a character has been responsible for several mass extinctions from Permian-Triassic to the Toba Catastrophe with the dinosaurs being a notable exception (the asteroid really is what did them in)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:00:05 No.112999622 Report

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>>112999501
Thanks KFP3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:00:34 No.112999630 Report

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>>112997562
So when did you last see Misery?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:19:44 No.112999903 Report

Quoted By: >>113000732

>>112998306
I've actually never heard of this one. Got any examples?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:19:59 No.112999906 Report

Quoted By: >>113002171

>different villains team up
>they work really well together and almost defeat the hero
>something happens causing both of them to start fighting eachother and lose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:22:36 No.112999941 Report

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>>112996875
Harvey Girls Forever and Captain Underpants did it in every single season finale

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:40:28 No.113000178 Report

Quoted By: >>113005041

>Cast has an old thing that is a broken hunk of junk that's more trouble than it's worth
>Everyone but one person complains about it
>They get new thing that's better than old thing
>Expect it isn't because it has something annoying or is to much for them
>Everyone now says old thing is better because memories
>They get old thing back even though it's still junk

So in short
>Old thing good, New thing bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:51:55 No.113000341 Report

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>>112999168
That's my secret Cap... I'm always angry

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:56:28 No.113000403 Report

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>villain's airtight plan is only thwarted by the heroes due to some one-of-kind unforeseeable asspull
>never tries that plan again despite having the means/resources

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 16:57:29 No.113000424 Report

Quoted By: >>113000650

>>112998010
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this. Do you mean an eternal status quo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:00:49 No.113000471 Report

Quoted By: >>113000553

>>112996728
When irony became mainstream, instead of the refuge of maladjusted hipsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:02:50 No.113000496 Report

Quoted By: >>113000687

>>112998198

>expecting anything good from furshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:08:01 No.113000553 Report

Quoted By: >>113000754 >>113000822 >>113001389 >>113005202 >>113007045 >>113015249 >>113021774

>>112995858
>>112996728
>>112999225
>>113000471
Self-aware has to be the absolute fucking worst, haha look how clever we are referencing this trope that you, the audience, all recognise from similar tropes of shows! *winks directly at camera* isn't it lame when shows follow these tropes? well we're not going to do that! we're going to do the exact opposite, regardless of how little in-universe sense it makes! *sniffs own farts* mmmm, god isn't it great being above such petty mainstream shows

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:14:49 No.113000650 Report

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>>113000424
I think it's not necessarily eternal status quo, but just a show never conclusively wrapping up something established from the beginning as the main goal of the characters or focus of the plot.

And not in a deliberate way, like it's supposed to be open to interpretation or represent how you don't always accomplish what you want in life or something. But just because the show got canceled unexpectedly and/or the writers got cocky and didn't get around to addressing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:15:39 No.113000660 Report

Quoted By: >>113000811

>wonderful perfect smart rich talented girl ends up with knuckle dragging idiot that couldn't stand on his own in a cartoon or comic just about him

I guess the point of these is to not be superficial but kids only take a bad message from this: if you want to marry someone, do it, dont worry about huge compatibility issues or all the problems their lack of whatever will cause you and the relationship.

We're essentially telling kids to get in and stay in bad relationships.

It's like not one single writer has been in a healthy balanced relationship so they have no idea how to write two equals in love. It's always like a popper and a princess. Or an idiot and a genius.

Also

>dad is an idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:18:00 No.113000687 Report

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>>113000496
Please stop

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:21:50 No.113000732 Report

Quoted By: >>113000825

>>112999903
First one that comes to mind is Plagg from Miraculous Ladybug. His feats also include the sinking of Atlantis and the leaning the Tower of Pisa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:23:41 No.113000753 Report

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>>112995858
>character who was pefect the way they are get a makeover...
>when there's one girl on the team, her role is simply "just the girl".
>two characters end up together but nothing happens afterward. If there's a sequel, you bet your ass they're gonna do a status quo and have to fall in love all over again.
>cilched black and white stories

And the trope I fucking hate the most is:

>The magic goes away ending. Shit makes me depressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:23:57 No.113000754 Report

Quoted By: >>113000822 >>113004991

>>113000553
Fucking this. It's why I can't stomach the Ducktales cartoon or any of the new Star Wars trilogy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:29:42 No.113000811 Report

Quoted By: >>113000916

>>113000660
>popper and a princess
I think you're the idiot here, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:30:24 No.113000822 Report

Quoted By:

>>113000553
Tropes are tools. They can be done well or done badly but to each their own.

>>113000754
No wonder I haven't watch much ducktales lately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:30:46 No.113000825 Report

Quoted By:

>>113000732
That reminds me

>>112998370
>>112998434
You can also make lists for "real reason the tower of Pisa is leaning/Sphinx is missing a nose"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:37:31 No.113000916 Report

Quoted By: >>113001046 >>113004867

>>113000811

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:38:50 No.113000932 Report

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>>112995858
South Park Continuity in the later seasons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:43:07 No.113000984 Report

Quoted By: >>113001054 >>113001057 >>113001077 >>113001279 >>113002216 >>113006684

>>112996728
Name one example of this ever being implemented

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:47:26 No.113001046 Report

Quoted By: >>113004867

>>113000916
I thought you were referencing "pauper and the princess"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:48:03 No.113001054 Report

Quoted By: >>113001357 >>113004895

>>113000984
The Last Jedi as a whole seems to made with the express intent of trashing and making fun of all the mystery box cliffhangers set up by The Force Awakens

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:48:31 No.113001057 Report

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>>113000984
I will in my next post, right after I escape from this swarm of angry bees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:49:39 No.113001077 Report

Quoted By:

>>113000984
Psych! I'm wearing a beekeeper's outfit so I'm perfectly safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:51:40 No.113001107 Report

Quoted By: >>113001127

>>112999235
>Aw screw you, that's a fun trope. Unless it's really poorly executed,
No shit sherlock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:52:43 No.113001121 Report

Quoted By:

>>112999547
>>112999547
lol you should share it anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 17:53:03 No.113001127 Report

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>>113001107
That reminds me. Character go back in time and meet Sherlock Holmes, or any other fictional character, the writer blatantly operating under the impression they were a historical figure and only having surface level knowledge of said character

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:06:27 No.113001279 Report

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>>113000984
>That episode of SU where Lars fucking dies, gets resurrected, and left on a hostile alien world
>Next few episodes barely mention Lars

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:14:35 No.113001357 Report

Quoted By: >>113002054 >>113003155

>>113001054
But that's ok cause it was done to Force Awakens, a very generic, boring and soulless way to start a trilogy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:17:53 No.113001389 Report

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>>113000553
Gumball in a nutshell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:20:36 No.113001425 Report

Quoted By: >>113007851 >>113007881

>animal (usually bird or fish) gets graphically killed for a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:25:14 No.113001479 Report

Quoted By: >>113005384

>>112999413
That was used in Max Carnage, right? Any other examples of this with villains?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:25:58 No.113001485 Report

Quoted By: >>113001648 >>113001687 >>113007085

>>112999413
>show preaches power of friendship
>protagonist solves everything by himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:31:07 No.113001552 Report

Quoted By:

>>112998159
god that was stupid, anything would have been better
goku surviving the explosion through sheer willpower would have been better than that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:39:14 No.113001648 Report

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>>113001485
Yet another thing star wars failed with. Rey was constantly made aware she's not alone and yet she kept on doing everything alone and it was never resolved. I guess too much Main Character wank but I agree I hate when that happens. Maybe it's why I'm a sucker for the (common anime) trope where the team has to split up to face individual enemies as the protagonist goes on ahead. It's at least giving the rest of the team an important duty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 18:42:24 No.113001687 Report

Quoted By: >>113009251 >>113015082 >>113018199

>>113001485
>Show preaches the power of hard work and perseverance
>Protagonist had everything that makes him special handed to him
Looking at you, most anime for boys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 19:09:17 No.113002054 Report

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>>113001357
You say that like TLJ wasn't a boring and soulless middle to the trilogy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 19:18:22 No.113002155 Report

Quoted By: >>113004971

>>112998159
>whole filler arc with that cliffhanger
Should've just read the manga then. Also, Porunga tells them that Goku is still alive. So it's not even a cliffhanger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 19:19:32 No.113002171 Report

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>>112999906
Usually it's one of the villains claiming they were the one to beat the hero and their partner doesn't like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 19:22:43 No.113002216 Report

Quoted By: >>113006384

>>113000984
It's not /co/ related but the TV show Supernatural did this a bunch of times and I hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 20:33:42 No.113003155 Report

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>>113001357
The thing that it ruined was already bad so i dont necessarily care but it still just made a bad thing worse so i wouldn't say it's ok.

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 20:48:26 No.113003352 Report

Quoted By: >>113003605 >>113006840 >>113012957 >>113012967 >>113014609 >>113014703 >>113020757 >>113020965

>"We're not so different, you and i"
>They have nothing in common with eachother

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 20:53:14 No.113003420 Report

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>>112996852
>Plots hinging on misunderstandings
This shit should get you fired from writing. It makes me want to break the writers fingers one by one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 20:55:06 No.113003444 Report

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>>112997562
That's not what I mean. I'm talking about when it ends with a character performing an action or saying a dramatic line, then the next episode has the same moment, but what they do or say is different. For example, if the cliffhanger episode ended with
>NOW I'LL DESTROY YOU ALL, PREPARE FOR YOUR DOOM
>*evil character raises the mcguffin and starts laughing*
Then the next episode has the same guy, at what is supposed to be the same moment say
>NOW ALL WILL BE DESTROYED, YOUR DOOM HAS COME
>*evil character points the mcguffin forward and only smiles*
I can't think of any specific examples, but it happens too fucking often and I hate it every time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 21:07:00 No.113003605 Report

Quoted By: >>113020119

>>113003352
>IF YOU DO THIS THING THAT'LL SOLVE OUR PROBLEM YOU BE JUST LIKE THE BAAAAAD GUYYYYYS

the one I think I hate even more is
>Heroes annihilate countless lesser soldiers/guards/whatever without a care
>Finally reach the one running it all
>Nooooo you can't kill him, THAT will magically put your kill count into the EVIL number

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 21:14:20 No.113003714 Report

Quoted By: >>113004938

>girls vs boys episodes
>girls never having slapstic on them
>men not having a shred of self importance
>straight male lust is always evil/mocked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:30:44 No.113004867 Report

Quoted By:

>>113000916
>>113001046
Maybe the princess just likes doing some drugs that make taking huge anal insertions easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:32:24 No.113004895 Report

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>>113001054
I liked TLJ shitting on mystery box bullshit and Luke's new take on The Force. The ending does a 180 on that and goes right back to OT imitation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:34:25 No.113004938 Report

Quoted By: >>113014624

>>113003714
>girls never having slapstick on them
I hate this especially, let both the girls and guys be wacky sometimes. It's not that difficult

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:35:55 No.113004971 Report

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>>113002155
>Also, Porunga tells them that Goku is still alive. So it's not even a cliffhanger.
Of course he was going to be alive, but the question was "how"?

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:36:50 No.113004987 Report

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>>112996852
>>If there are two siblings - the brother is the smart one and the sister is the creative one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:37:19 No.113004991 Report

Quoted By: >>113013813 >>113015522

>>113000754
Ducktales 2017 wore me out because it takes the "strong female character" concept literally every time. Every female character has to kick ass physically or else they're not strong (as if mental/emotional strength aren't valuable traits). Also they made Launchpad super dumb instead of just a bit quirky so it's a little hard to watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:39:59 No.113005041 Report

Quoted By: >>113005213

>>113000178
The fucking Bob’s Burgers couch episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:40:24 No.113005052 Report

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>guy hits on female/makes sexist remark
>female kicks him in the balls
>show acts like this is a justified response

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:42:15 No.113005091 Report

Quoted By: >>113013823 >>113013859

>Science character invents amazing invention that would change the world for the better
>Some oversight results in it going wrong and causing problems
>Doesn't try again while being more cautious about possible issues, robbing the world of a better tomorrow

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:42:49 No.113005107 Report

Quoted By: >>113005225 >>113010002 >>113011020 >>113011068

>setting where supernatural shit happens constantly
>HAHA A GHOST? YOU'VE SEEN TOO MANY MOVIES, [CHARACTER]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:44:07 No.113005126 Report

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>>112998840
name seven gabonese musicals that do this

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:47:54 No.113005202 Report

Quoted By: >>113006664

>>113000553
>show is self-aware about the tropes it uses and has a character call it out to be "different"
>after this moment, everything plays out the same as it would in any other show anyway with 0 difference
Modern writers cannot be trusted

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:48:32 No.113005213 Report

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>>113005041
A good couch ages like fine wine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:49:01 No.113005225 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005107
>character sees a ghost
>"what's wrong, [character]? you look like you've seen a ghost!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 22:57:17 No.113005384 Report

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>>113001479
The idea was played with in the last season of Horse Show, but they didn't really commit to it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 23:00:11 No.113005433 Report

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>cute little kid character suddenly says something dark and/or deep

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 23:23:53 No.113005786 Report

Quoted By: >>113006575 >>113006792 >>113006822 >>113006872 >>113006955 >>113011403 >>113011566 >>113012853 >>113013193 >>113017289 >>113019230

What are some tropes you love?
I’ll start
>spider tank with giant laser gun

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 23:30:25 No.113005885 Report

Quoted By:

>>112998383
Creators should be made to watch this movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 23:31:57 No.113005910 Report

Quoted By:

>>112996728
It's okay, you can say Rick and Morty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 23:32:58 No.113005931 Report

Quoted By: >>113006025

Every single 10 vs 1 plot in Loud House is completely idiotic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 23:39:31 No.113006025 Report

Quoted By: >>113006088

>>113005931
Loud House is completely idiotic in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 07 Feb 2020 23:43:37 No.113006088 Report

Quoted By: >>113006461

>>113006025
Yes but this is a tropes thread and the more siblings you have the more unrealistic it is that all of them are gonna gang up on one person so consistently

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:01:58 No.113006348 Report

Quoted By: >>113006441

> Character is dying or pretty much dead
> Has a monologue either internal or external which perfectly ends their character arc or at least provides a semblance of closure to the character.
> This type of death is common throughout the entire series

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:03:49 No.113006384 Report

Quoted By:

>>113002216
Supernatural died after season 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:04:47 No.113006400 Report

Quoted By: >>113015102

>>112996728
I know it's /a/ but the finale of season one of Osomatsu-san still pisses me off. You can sit down and actually resolve drama in a way that's both heartfelt and funny and progress the characters, but they throw it out the window immediately. Not even apologies between the characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:07:31 No.113006441 Report

Quoted By: >>113011556

>>113006348
Kind of similar but I hate that the mentor character always has to die. I get that they have to "pass the torch" but bumping them off every time feels so tired now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:08:37 No.113006461 Report

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>>113006088
in general sure but i can easily see boy and girl siblings taking sides based on sex, even if there is only one member of either sex in the situation.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:12:27 No.113006525 Report

Quoted By: >>113006577 >>113006844 >>113008518

>Dumb character becomes rich
>Dumb character changes into pompous asshole
>Goes broke at the end

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:15:37 No.113006575 Report

Quoted By: >>113009428

>>113005786
>Villain gets an episode all to himself without the protagonists involved
>The episode shows a softer side of the villain such as having him act as a hero much to his reluctance
>Bonus points if the villain stays evil despite showing his more human side
Any /co/ examples of this out there? The only instances I've seen of this are non-/co/ related such as Kira protecting Shinobu from Stray Cat in Jojo and the Governor becoming a father figure to that little girl in The Walking Dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:15:42 No.113006577 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006525
Still becomes a pompous asshole when broke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:17:49 No.113006613 Report

Quoted By: >>113006663

>>112995858
It fucking hate the “Twist villain” cliche that keeps being used. At this point I can already pick out when it’s a Twist and who the villain is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:19:02 No.113006635 Report

Quoted By:

>>112996728
This right here is why I hate series 7 and 8 of Red Dwarf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:20:37 No.113006663 Report

Quoted By: >>113006734

>>113006613
it's worse when they don't even have a fake or decoy villain present, the lack of a villain makes you start looking for one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:20:39 No.113006664 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005202
ironic self-awareness is used as a get out of jail free card for bad writing
>haha we couldn't resolve this plot issue so we'll do it the trope way tongue in cheek :P
or
>oh you expected XYZ? idiot, we're doing it another way, we're not like the other toons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:21:25 No.113006684 Report

Quoted By:

>>113000984
The first episode of series 7 of Red Dwarf basically shits on people who wanted to find out what happened at the end of “Out Of Time.” The alternate ending where we actually get a conclusion to that episode was a lot better, and lets you basically skip 7-9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:24:13 No.113006734 Report

Quoted By: >>113006825 >>113013841

>>113006663
I hate when they have a decoy villain much, much more, because we’ve spent enough time with that villain to develop a liking or interest in them. Then suddenly that villain who came off as interesting or cool is suddenly just a puppet for a villain that has no development beyond “I was the bad guy.”
Waternoose from Monsters Inc was a rare, rare case where the twist worked, because Randall was still perceived as a threat who went to his own extremes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:27:20 No.113006792 Report

Quoted By: >>113006955

>>113005786
>Hero finally encounters the villain
>Hero gets their ass kicked and suddenly realizes they’re in over their head
or
>Hero goes to fight villain, and other characters try to explain to them how bad of an idea it is and how dangerous the villain is
or
>Villain is thought gone, and their return gives the hero PTSD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:28:55 No.113006822 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005786
>Episode about villain and hero doing non hero and villain things
>its like a day job to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:29:04 No.113006825 Report

Quoted By: >>113006944

>>113006734
I wouldn't say Waternoose counts, Randall is still (mostly) working for him. It's like if Palpatine was a secret until RotJ. Doesn't stop Vader from being a threat.

A better example would be Mandarin from IM3

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:29:44 No.113006840 Report

Quoted By: >>113006962 >>113022963

>>113003352
>If you kill him, you'll be just like him!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:29:57 No.113006844 Report

Quoted By: >>113006871 >>113006887 >>113008518 >>113014642

>>113006525
Didn't' SU have something like this happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:30:40 No.113006866 Report

Quoted By: >>113006902

>diluting fictional works into (((tropes)))
why do "people" do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:31:02 No.113006871 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006844
Thankfully not really, Greg goes back to the van but he didn't become a dickhead while rich and it's still stated he's got quite a bit of money left over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:31:02 No.113006872 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005786
>Villain from the past that died taunts a character as a memory/figment of their imagination
>subtle implication that they might be an actual ghost, but it's never made definitive
Koba in the Planet of the Ape reboot, Joker in Arkham Knight, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:31:32 No.113006887 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006844

Just the first part

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:32:10 No.113006902 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006866
kill you'reselve

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:34:31 No.113006944 Report

Quoted By: >>113007002

>>113006825
Mandarin’s an example of the twist trope being dogshit. Killian has zero development or character beyond being the twist villain, and in turn a villain with a great gimmick, a great angle that deviates from the standard evil businessman villain of Toy’s, played by a great actor, with a great connection to Tony that brings the story full circle, is turned into a joke and his entire persona is the lead up to a shit joke.

The Waternoose twist still counts because he is the real mind behind the conspiracy. We’re led to believe that Randall is the mastermind behind it, but he wasn’t. But what keeps the twist from being bad is that it actually gives Waternoose even more character, someone doing the wrong things for what he perceives as the greater good. On top of that, Randall manages to come out unscathed, as his role isn’t diminished and he doesn’t get phased out once Waternoose pops up. Instead he even does things that Waternoose finds dishonorable, but brushes away for his goal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:35:13 No.113006955 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005786
I don't know if it's been used enough to be a trope but I like when

>two characters aren't on good terms right now
>fighting happens, the place is under attack or whatever
>instead of being petty one comes to help the other because there's bigger things to worry about right now

>>113006792
>Villain is thought gone, and their return gives the hero PTSD
I remember Teen Titan's twist on that was awesome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:35:34 No.113006962 Report

Quoted By: >>113013940

>>113006840
>Protagonist kills a bunch of villains
>Refuses to kill the main villain who caused the most misery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:38:29 No.113007002 Report

Quoted By: >>113009307

>>113006944
I think you misread me, I was trying to point out an example of it being dogshit and why I (generally) hate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:40:43 No.113007045 Report

Quoted By: >>113015062

>>113000553
I also hate characters whose entire schtick is that they're meta.

>I want to give myself a cool origin story like you have! Say, what is your origin story anyway?
>Don't tell anyone who you are, you have to have a secret identity! To protect your loved ones!
>Dark clothes, trenchcoat, evil laugh? GASP! YOU'RE A SUPERVILLAIN!

It's very difficult to pull out and only sometimes works, but most of the time, it feels like substitution for actual clever writing.

truteal !hlnuDLeBD2

truteal !hlnuDLeBD2 Sat 08 Feb 2020 00:42:44 No.113007085 Report

Quoted By:

>>113001485

>without protag, rest of team gets jobbed constantly

Secret Saturdays' main problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:25:25 No.113007851 Report

Quoted By: >>113010329

>>113001425
>ending of Shrek 4
>villain has been defeated
>heroes murder his beloved pet bird in front of him for kicks and laugh at its smoking corpse

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:27:32 No.113007881 Report

Quoted By: >>113010329

>>113001425
In a similar vein I got really sick of the stock cat screech everytime something got thrown offscreen. It's not funny, there's black humour but "haha a cat got hit" isn't funny.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:31:54 No.113007981 Report

Quoted By:

>Really cool/interesting character gets killed off immediately for some unexpected laughs
Or alternatively
>They survive the entire episode they are introduced
>Right when they say goodbye they are killed off for a last second gag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:35:21 No.113008032 Report

Quoted By:

>>112995916
VLD did this with two characters and they weren't even dead well mostly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 01:59:22 No.113008492 Report

Quoted By:

>Mentor character dies

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:00:21 No.113008518 Report

Quoted By:

>>113006525
>>113006844
>dumb character becomes rich
>they stay rich
say what you will about FoP S10 I will always applaud them doing this subversion

LS !!yWFPhgx+6SM

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LS !!yWFPhgx+6SM Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:41:31 No.113009251 Report

Quoted By: >>113023399

>>113001687
is true for the vast majority of Shounen shows after all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:44:36 No.113009307 Report

Quoted By:

>>113007002
I figured, but I was using it to show how Waternoose counted, but used it correctly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:48:08 No.113009363 Report

Quoted By: >>113009475

>>112995858
>Villain who starts as an established major threat to the hero, who takes the hero to their limits, becomes a useless joke for no reason
Fuck Sting of the Scorpion so hard, and fuck every writer that perpetuated that garbage idea.

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LS !!yWFPhgx+6SM Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:51:44 No.113009428 Report

Quoted By: >>113015485

>>113006575
the literal entire premise of Venture Bros? Except is the entirety of the show when the episode is focused on the Monarch side of things, also one of the rare shows where the main villains are married and arching as couple

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 02:54:38 No.113009475 Report

Quoted By:

>>113009363
Suck my ass Defalco

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:28:57 No.113010002 Report

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>>113005107
This is actually something I've seen used as a slight point of contention towards Steven Universe (I.e. characters thinking supernatural stuff is weird while gem stuff is normal), but in that case considering the gems have been around since the beginning of humanity obviously gem stuff would just be considered relatively normal, whereas something like a ghost or snake people would be considered odd.

Say what you will about Ronaldo but one of his earlier episodes easily highlights this element, with him being disappointed at the possibility that the gems are behind everything instead of something that would, by the in-universe standards, be supernatural like sneeple. Something strange instead of something that everyone just kinda considers mundane

It's weird but I mean, consider all the weird shit that happens in nature real life that is odd but we just kinda consider normal since it's always been there, most reaction that it elicites is a "oh that's quirky!", but a ghost? Whoa, slow down there bud you don't make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:29:28 No.113010006 Report

Quoted By:

>>112995858
HE NEVER GOT OUT OF THE COCKADOODIE CAR

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:50:29 No.113010329 Report

Quoted By:

>>113007851
based
>>113007881
bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 03:54:54 No.113010383 Report

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>Retcon/Revision of a well known plot point established years ago ruins everything.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:42:24 No.113010999 Report

Quoted By: >>113014471 >>113018867

>>112995858
>season ends on a dramatic, game changing cliff hanger
>gets resolved in the first half of the next episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:43:58 No.113011020 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005107
that one fucking episode of billy and mandy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:47:15 No.113011068 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005107
I remember an episode of Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue where a little girl is laughed at for saying she saw a monster, which baffled the fuck out of me. Even in that season alone giant monsters kept popping up downtown all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 04:48:34 No.113011089 Report

Quoted By: >>113011450 >>113011509 >>113012768

>>112995858
>Heroes never kill. If you kill him you'll be just like him. Killing is never justified.
>Men and boys go pants on head retarded around hot women to where they're messing up hero work because boobs.
>Above trope is never done the other way around, girl is never suddenly taken off guard because her eyes caught some bulge or a guy bending over, ect.
>Everyone forgets their powers for a bit to make a match 'fair' for nothing but dramatic purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:01:11 No.113011245 Report

Quoted By:

>>112995858
>The bad guy does heinous, unrepentant shit
>Long, overdue battle where the good guy spares bad guy’s life and bad guy is taken into custody
>Bad guy’s skills and talents are required by the government, so they’re sent on secret black op missions
>The government pardons them for their crimes
>Now considered a hero to the general public (bonus points if the good guy falls from everybody’s good graces)
>Bad guy continues fighting good guy under the guise of the law until the inevitable reboot defaults bad guy back to pure villain status

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:03:13 No.113011262 Report

Quoted By:

>>112995858
test

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:16:19 No.113011403 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005786
>villain does something good without blinking an eye
>Not as a ploy or for personal gain but because it fits within their own views of right and wrong showing that the villain is not just a mustache twirling monster

on the flip side
>Villains that are evil for the sake of evil and dont have a tragic backstory (unless it is being used for comedy)

Sometimes you want a villain with depth and character. Sometimes its refreshing to have someone who is just evil without reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:19:59 No.113011450 Report

Quoted By: >>113011613 >>113012076 >>113014190 >>113015163

>>113011089
>Heroes never kill. If you kill him you'll be just like him. Killing is never justified.
This is why I can't take shit like My Hero Academia seriously, you got complete fucking monsters like Overhaul who spent years experimenting on a little girl by taking her body apart and then putting it back together, but killing people like him is big no-no :(

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:22:17 No.113011480 Report

Quoted By: >>113012105

>>112995858
>main character is blamed for something they didn't do
>have to prove their innocence while on the run
Pic related being one of the more egregious examples.
This shit got old fast, how does it still get used?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:25:45 No.113011509 Report

Quoted By:

>>113011089
>Heroes never kill. If you kill him you'll be just like him. Killing is never justified.
This right here is an aspect NuWho completely buttfucked by series 4.
By the Second and Third Doctors, the moral compass of the Doctor was that while he didn’t want to kill, he understood the grand scheme of things enough to accept that sometimes there’s no other option. He even used guns and blasters from time to time if it meant protecting millions or more from an invading force. Then in NuWho the Doctor apparently never ever carried a weapon, never killed anyone outside of the Time War, and thought Brigadier was a sweet potato instead of the hard as nails warrior that pre emptively destroyed multiple enemies of earth (I love Brig, but that was literally the point of him). The Time War PTSD excuse doesn’t rewrite the history of the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:30:20 No.113011556 Report

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>>113006441
We need more Master Roshi characters in media. I want my heroes to surpass their mentor and become more than they ever were. That way the mentor can hang around as an advisor.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:31:19 No.113011566 Report

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>>113005786
Its gonna take alittle set up
>characters are in the middle of a tense argument or fight
>they get up in eachothers faces several times and get closer with each passing second
>one of them gets pushed to a wall or they take a second to breathe either way they are inches away from each others face
>they immediatly start making out
Shit gets my blood pumping every time very hard to fuck up in my humble opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 05:36:12 No.113011613 Report

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>>113011450
Because they're just that, Heroes, not vigilantes. It's quite literally their job to stop and capture villians instead of killing them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:16:26 No.113012076 Report

Quoted By:

>>113011450
Because they are law enforcement you twit, not vigilantes.

They literally work hand-in-hand with the cops, arresting people so they can be tried by the courts.
Its actually them doing their job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 06:18:49 No.113012105 Report

Quoted By:

>>113011480
Its amazing how much more effort the government seems to put into (and how much more resources they have access to in order to do it with) arressteg wrongfully accused heroes than they do the actual bad guys.

Like you have a what-if where the American government can pull a million clones of Thor out of their asses to murder all the heroes for not REGISTERING but when aliens invade they don't have shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:15:29 No.113012768 Report

Quoted By: >>113012806 >>113012844 >>113014000

>>113011089
You're especially right about the bit for superpowers. What other bad superpower tropes are there besides that one?

>The character with regeneration is the one who always gets maimed the most.
>The psychic only lifts shit instead of reading minds, frying brains, etc.
>The psychic has a mental breakdown from reading the minds of crazy/evil people.
>"Badass normal" can inflict damage on those he shouldn't be able to without hurting himself, shrugging off hits that should have killed/crippled him, leaps higher than a normal human being is capable of, etc.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:17:10 No.113012792 Report

Quoted By: >>113012818 >>113013004 >>113013305 >>113013513 >>113023511

>Killing the genocidal fascist overlord or the deranged homicidal maniac makes you as bad as the villain because somehow murders are all on the same level of terribleness
>Real heroes don't kill
>A truly good person would learn how to befriend the villain

The fuck are we teaching children?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:18:56 No.113012806 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012768
Not all psychics have telepathic mind attacks along with telekinesis

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:20:00 No.113012818 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012792
Not to kill other children, rage nerd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:20:00 No.113012819 Report

Quoted By:

>>112995858
OP, you ever see the movie Misery?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:21:43 No.113012836 Report

Quoted By:

>Boring, nagging wife
Francine Smith is the only good sitcom wife.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:22:36 No.113012844 Report

Quoted By: >>113012899

>>113012768
My favorite trope involving a "badass normal" is when they're put in a situation that they physically cannot win, so they don't. They get their shit royally pushed in and end up half dead (bonus points if they do end up dying), and they never even get a single real hit in on the thing they're fighting. But they still fought it anyway, knowing that would happen, because they either didn't have a choice, or just because standing up and fighting was the right thing to do, regardless of the odds.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:23:35 No.113012853 Report

Quoted By:

>>113005786
I know, >Tumblr, but I like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:27:21 No.113012899 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012844
That's certainly better than the likes of the Punisher having other characters lose to him through writer fiat.

Like how there's multiple comics of Punisher killing the marvel universe / some threat killing off every other major character but somehow Punisher wins because he's just so crazy and badass unlike those capes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:29:48 No.113012918 Report

Quoted By: >>113014009

Do show-specific tropes count?
>Two characters having a conversation
>Third character chimes in with a non-sequitur
>The characters having a conversation continue talking, completely ignoring what was said

>"We're gonna do [Blank]!"
>Cut to next scene
>"Okay, so the first thing about doing [Blank] is that you have to [Blank]"
>Dumb joke about this going wrong
>Cut to next scene
>"Now, the next thing about [Blank] is [Blank]"
Name the show. The tropes aren't inherently bad, but the show relies on them way too much and becomes completely formulaic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:33:07 No.113012957 Report

Quoted By:

>>113003352
>You’re a killer
>So you’re just like me

There’s a lot of people who kill and do bad things, that doesn’t mean you have anything in common. Why’s it always killers or fighter types who get hit the hardest with this trope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:34:07 No.113012967 Report

Quoted By: >>113022585

>>113003352
>Hero doesn't even reply to this
Just once, I want the hero to interrupt the villain and say, "You kill people. I save them."

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:34:53 No.113012982 Report

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>>112996852
God I hate all of these so fucking much. Also amnesia, especially "selective amnesia".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:36:43 No.113013004 Report

Quoted By: >>113013043

>>113012792
It’s straight up hypocritical since we send drones to blow up some guy and every civilian in the blast radius, and cops kill all the time but executing mass murders is wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:39:41 No.113013043 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013004
People who sit down and write those kinds of scenarios with a straight-face are not the best of their profession.

Also in neverending comicbook universes its just used as an excuse by the company to not kill off important money-making villains.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:54:27 No.113013193 Report

Quoted By: >>113013253

>>113005786
>Hero starts off justified and righteous
>Through beatdown after beatdown, they become more unhinged and mentally ill
>its up to the villian to bring them back to their senses

And

>Villain is strong
>Stupid strong
>A force of nature
>It takes all the heroes everything to defeat them
>Villain is so fucking strong that the hero has nightmares even after the villain leaves or dies of being destroyed by him

I love mecha sonic from smbz. We as an audience knew what he wanted from the start, was a legit threat, and was charismatic as fuck for a villian. A villian done right.

He RARELY if ever jobbed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 07:59:40 No.113013253 Report

Quoted By: >>113013341

>>113013193
You sound like such a fucking villain-worshiping faggot.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:03:34 No.113013305 Report

Quoted By: >>113015595

>>113012792
>>A truly good person would learn how to befriend the villain
More friends=More power

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:06:28 No.113013341 Report

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>>113013253
Are you triggered faggot? Did I strike a nerve? Cope more fuccboi!

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:18:08 No.113013471 Report

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>>112998306
You just reminded me I never finished this damn thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:22:32 No.113013513 Report

Quoted By: >>113013528 >>113018926

>>113012792
>if i cant kill the villain... ill fuck the villain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:24:02 No.113013528 Report

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>>113013513
>Accidentally fuck the villain to death
>Mental breakdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:50:19 No.113013750 Report

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>>112998342
This is mainly thing that happens in real life

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:57:08 No.113013811 Report

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>>112999413
Not /co/ but it ends up happening in Final Fantasy XIV when you're up against the Warriors of Darkness

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:57:11 No.113013813 Report

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>>113004991
Lena

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:58:13 No.113013823 Report

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>>113005091
Fucking Doofenshmirtz

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 08:59:45 No.113013841 Report

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>>113006734
This hurt me in How to train yoyr Dragon.
Vigo was great. The 3rd movie villain was boring

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:01:46 No.113013859 Report

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>>113005091

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:10:42 No.113013940 Report

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>>113006962
There's a very good reason for that. They need the villain to stay alive for future stories, that's really the only reason the dumb trope exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:18:07 No.113014000 Report

Quoted By: >>113014022

>>113012768
No, the first one makes sense. If you can regenerate your body from any injury, then you're not going to be as careful as other people, so you're going to be more reckless and sustain more injuries, because it's not as big a deal for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:19:50 No.113014009 Report

Quoted By:

>>113012918
Probably Teen Titans Go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:21:11 No.113014022 Report

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>>113014000
But it still doesn't make sense when all the massive injuries just so happen to the guy that will walk it off, not because of his own actions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 09:47:50 No.113014190 Report

Quoted By: >>113014321 >>113015733 >>113015782 >>113015943

>>113011450
I kinda understand where this complaint comes from but moreso just in the fact that it's not really explained as to why heroes even exist to begin with. About 95% of quirks are destroyed by a lower caliber gunshot, phones, the industrial revolution, or the infamous reliability of japanese public transit. For the rest of quirks you can probably just use a larger gun or be more clever about the way you do things. We're never really shown a reason for why the government would decide to authorize these contract workers to go around enforcing the law and destroying tons of public property when all of the same work can reasonably be accomplished by a competent police force. Heck, even including all the bs gadgets we see the heroes using, there's not really a reason as to why the police can't just sleeping gas villains for a more non-lethal option. It's been implied that some sort of apocalypse level event took place or something similar to that, but even if technology was set back at some point, it still seems to be on par, if not better, than today's. There needs to be a rational explanation as to why this is even a thing to begin with. Deku is 16 or whatever, so it makes sense that he's not prone to killing, but there's really not a reasonable explanation as to why the government and the school system is letting 16 year olds fight people like overhaul. The problem isn't that deku hasn't killed anyone, the problem is that him killing anyone isn't even a train of thought that's given any daylight to begin with. But I suppose the worldbuilding is one of 500 complaints you could lodge with that fucking show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:05:30 No.113014321 Report

Quoted By: >>113015206

>>113014190
You're a fucking faggot.

A surprising amount of major western heroes die when they are shot

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:31:34 No.113014471 Report

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>>113010999
Star Vs? lol also checked

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:52:47 No.113014609 Report

Quoted By: >>113014635 >>113014703 >>113021354

>>113003352
>if you kill your enemies, they win

I can’t call to mind any instance where this was done well except RotJ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:55:40 No.113014624 Report

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>>113004938
Futurama did this right with Amy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:57:21 No.113014635 Report

Quoted By: >>113014703

>>113014609
Don't you love when needless sequels completely destroy the climax of previous movies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 10:58:36 No.113014642 Report

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>>113006844
The opposite actually. Greg stayed rich and even became the manager of a band for a couple years before they broke up. He's still not wanting for money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:08:04 No.113014703 Report

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>>113003352
>>113014609
>>113014635
>Star Wars VI, the most recognised iteration of this trope

I’m not sure if the throne room scene even technically counts per se: Luke wasn’t against killing for righteousness and in self defense in and of itself (Death Star) but it just so happened that the mythical cyborg enforcer was his blood-related father and thus deontologically refused to commit fratricide in this presence of the greatest manipulator in galactic history.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:34:20 No.113014840 Report

Quoted By: >>113014860 >>113015232

>>112998010
>>> Cartoon never accomplishes its series goal
>It's been a bad habit for decades and can lead to veneer fanfiction.
But when the series DOES accomplish its goal, /co/ will forever cry about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 11:37:31 No.113014860 Report

Quoted By: >>113015323

>>113014840
People are allowed to complain about bad writing, or the fact the ending was directly ripping off Gurren Lagann

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:15:33 No.113015062 Report

Quoted By: >>113015229

>>113007045
Never seen a meta character be worth shit in cartoons or comics outside Deadpool and that completely depends on the writer. My favorite example of a meta character done right is the protagonist of Zombieland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:18:35 No.113015082 Report

Quoted By: >>113015648

>>113001687
Kinda why I like Attack on Titan. Eren's constantly struggling with feelings on inadequacy, dread and he knows he isn't worth shit without the powers he was handed. Most other characters, even some of the gang, heavily resent him for being the "only one who can do it" because they realize that outside his ability to keep going beyond all reason he's a worthless little shit.

The only time he has relied on his own skills and knowledge and made his own decisions, the jackass started a literal world-wide genocide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:19:06 No.113015086 Report

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Friendly reminder bad tropes exist to make your favourite cartoon or comics last longer.

Be thankful for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:21:42 No.113015102 Report

Quoted By: >>113017178

>>113006400
Osomatsu is completely absurdist though. It makes sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:33:25 No.113015163 Report

Quoted By: >>113015775 >>113023644

>>113011450
Combine the fact that Bakugo is a fucking psycho who is genuinely worse than most villains the group faces, and not only do all the characters go around sucking his cock every time he doesn't put someone in the hospital for breathing next to him, the show never really forces him to contemplate on his failures.

That episode where All Might forces them to fight together, I was honestly hoping for a no-holds barrel beatdown with a "the reason you suck" for both of them, Bakugo for being himself and Deku for being a pathetic little bitch who keeps tolerating nonstop abuse, but nah, Bakugo is bae, he got better with no consequences, oh and Shoto's dad the complete monster who engaged in eugenics and traumatized his child's mother so bad she gave him a PERMANENT SCAR WORSE THAN FUCKING ZUKO FROM AVATAR gets redeemed cleanly and neatly.

MHA is complete trash at this point and Bakugo fans are either worthless pieces of shit or thirsty faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:40:45 No.113015206 Report

Quoted By: >>113016284

>>113014321
And most Western Heroes either act alone, don't replace the police directly, or when they work in teams they usually deal with threats to their level.

His point stands dipshit. MHA is trash and so are you if you like it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:43:58 No.113015229 Report

Quoted By: >>113015239

>>113015062
I found it worked in Shazaam because they were literally acknowledging superhero stuff from their world which has a real Batman and Superman. Aside from the "trying to rent a secret fortress" scene, they used superhero tropes as a process of elimination to figure out how his powers worked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:44:05 No.113015232 Report

Quoted By: >>113015323 >>113016232

>>113014840
>Bad writing gets complained about

What a surprise. Samurai Jack after episode 5 or wherever it is that Jack gets brought to normal, all his character development gets erased, and he goes back at exclusively using his sword even after all the stuff he learned from a decade on relying only on the new skills he developed, went to shit real quick. The ending was heartstring-pulling with no care, talent or work put into it, the ending was barebones and the "side characters uniting and coming to the hero's rescue only to be completely and utterly USELESS" is one of the worst tropes in existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:45:49 No.113015239 Report

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>>113015229
Ah yah true, Shazaam was pretty fun. That scene where the absolute edgelord villain is doing his speech but doesn't realize he's too far to be heard, and gets increasingly more frustrated that him, a mass murdered dark brooding villain, finds his match in literal children is pretty sweet.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:47:04 No.113015249 Report

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>>113000553
learn english

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 12:58:04 No.113015323 Report

Quoted By: >>113016176

>>113014860
>>113015232
It doesn't matter that the ending was badly done, people were (and still are) complaining about him going back at all. To paraphrase them
>He should have stayed in the future he helped to make better throughout the show, along with the friends he had made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:13:01 No.113015432 Report

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>>112995858
>Right before the commercial cut (often seen in anime about 10 minutes in), or at the end of an episode
>Awesome song comes on and ends mid-song because of above reasons
>When it picks up again, there is another song that isn't even remotely as hype

Was gonna post an example from Initial D but ended up watching 8 episodes instead...

Damn you, catchy Eurobeat!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:16:10 No.113015458 Report

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>status quo is god

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:19:49 No.113015485 Report

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>>113009428
It's not that often a series has a cast that each their own could be made into a series of themselves due to the amount of backstory to them.

That's why Venture Bros was so good.
Not everything hinged on the main cast.

Making Dr. Mrs. The Monarch's voice dark made the couple so much more fun to follow

FUCK YEAH!

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Abby’s monsters Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:25:37 No.113015522 Report

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>>113004991

Why not both well developed female characters and strong female characters as well? Simply having all your female characters be mentally strong or p trying can get boring quick. I like a cast of women to be diverse.

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Abby’s monsters Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:34:37 No.113015595 Report

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>>113013305
That gif is very wholesome

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:40:13 No.113015648 Report

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>>113015082
>his ability to keep going beyond all reason
Its why I like to use him as my example for being the avatar of try hard. Literally everything he does, he not only tries, but he try hards.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:41:20 No.113015658 Report

Quoted By: >>113015704

>everyone acts out of character so someone can hold an idiot ball. especially when it's 'male characters uncharacteristically act like sexist morons so we can have a grrl power episode'
>dumb character becomes smart, gets sad, decides to become dumb again
>any character who primarily exists to be a mouthpiece for the writers. Except Kyle, because he kind of exists to make fun of those characters.
>any superhero comics character that has Jason Todd edginess syndrome
>any tweenage drama on the level of 'oh nooo I have to have braces my life is overrrrrrrrr'
>plot relies upon no one ever communicating clearly with one another

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:46:55 No.113015704 Report

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>>113015658
>>dumb character becomes smart, gets sad, decides to become dumb again
especially because the inversion of this was one of the best quests from the game Kingdoms of amalur. A dumb lowlife drug runner guy decided to take an intelligence potion and realized how much his life got better. But then runs out of the materials to make more of the potion and is dead fucking terrified of going back to being stupid.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:49:47 No.113015733 Report

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>>113014190
I realize it's more /a/ but what other 499 complaints do you have with that show?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:55:40 No.113015775 Report

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>>113015163
I get the criticism for the lack of development on Bakugo and Deku but Endeavor hasn't been redeemed at all. One of his son's doesn't talk to him still and refused to forgive him when he did try to redeem himself and the other just tolerates working with him to better himself. The most recent arc even noted that they may WANT to forgive him but can't because they hate him so much

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 13:56:35 No.113015782 Report

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>>113014190
>destroying tons of public property
I have defaulted to always assuming there is an in universe equivalent of Damage Control. It also just makes sense that there would be a person who just happens to have "mass mending" as a quirk, or something like metal malleability.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:16:48 No.113015943 Report

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>>113014190
I think its going to be explained as a shocking twist to give Deku a crisis of faith. something like the emergence of quirks was artificially induced by an evil mastermind who is publicly or secretly the founder of the hero organization and he pulled all kinds of political corruption to tailor-craft society into a borderline free-for-all proving ground for what the most effective quirks are and what the best training methods for quirk users are.

its somewhat acknowledged most of the fucked up parts of the setting to some capacity. the general public giving UA shit for the villain attack. Deku's mom begging him in tears to get out of this industry thats putting him in so much danger from a young age. the hero killer being shown to have a point when he talks about how most superheroes are selfish assholes who care more about their public standing and fame than actually addressing the root causes of crime. the league of villains' point about how many villains are driven into a life of crime because society decided their quirk was "evil" and being shunned since childhood in spite of being built to accommodate quirks from the ground up

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:45:53 No.113016176 Report

Quoted By: >>113016243

>>113015323
That would go against Jack's original purpose. Genndy had Jack set on returning to the past from beginning to end.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:49:12 No.113016210 Report

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>>112995858
>>episode ends on a dramatic cliffhanger
>>the next one picks up with a different version of the event happening
>WHY DON'T THEY JUST MAKE IT THE SAME
Are you by any chance talking about anime? Because in that case it's obvious, they're padding for time. I, too, find it extremely annoying, but at least you can sometimes compare the two versions of the scene and choose your favorite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:51:45 No.113016232 Report

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>>113015232
>the "side characters uniting and coming to the hero's rescue only to be completely and utterly USELESS" is one of the worst tropes in existence.
Be fair anon. SJ did it much better than 99% of shonen anime. While sure, Aku ultimately shrugged them off, they managed to hurt and stall him for a long time at least. In shonen Aku would just tank every single attack and boast about his power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:52:48 No.113016243 Report

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>>113016176
There's a difference between a character's intentions/desires and a character's arc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 14:56:45 No.113016284 Report

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>>113015206
The police still exist in MHA. I don't even follow the show and I still know that.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:12:08 No.113017049 Report

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>>112996852
>if there are two siblings-the brother is the smart one and the sister is the creative one
Going that same route I'm sick of
>brother is the dumb impulsive one and the sister is the smart and worldly one

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:25:05 No.113017178 Report

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>>113015102
Yes, and I get this response a lot but even Panty & Stocking had a wacky (but kind of heartwarming) way of resolving what had happened to Panty in the second-last episode. Until what happened after the credits of course, but I hope you see what I mean. It doesn't have to be 100% silly or 100% serious. You can blend the two.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:26:23 No.113017195 Report

Quoted By: >>113017471

>>112999413
>horse show
>main villians becoming friends through overcoming hurdles together
>they're starting to think that friendship is actually great
>upon said realization they instantly recoil in disgust and start plotting a doublecross
>bonus points: the entire arc ended in anticlimactic psyche revelation
Fuck these writers.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:30:34 No.113017240 Report

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>Person with no powers beats all the superhumans and supernatural beings on their team in training or when they turn evil for a stupid reason.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:34:24 No.113017289 Report

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>>113005786
Protagonist and antagonist have mutual feelings for each other, possibly even a relationship, but their respective stances prevent them from having a successful relationship.
Alternatively, protagonist and antagonist develop feelings for each other and the story has them deal with the positive and negative consequences of that.
No love triangles, though. I hate that shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 16:48:37 No.113017471 Report

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>>113017195
If I recall correctly, the villains saw their bond more like a temporary alliance than an actual friendship. They weren't willing to stay friends because they didn't trust each other enough not to betray them. Also, Cozy Glow did say that she saw Friendship as a disease, changing them from the inside.

Really, what the villains didn't want to accept is change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:02:43 No.113017671 Report

Quoted By: >>113017766

>characters get into fistfight
>it doesn't remotely resemble anything anyone would actually do in a fight
Can choreographers not be assed to watch a single MMA match, boxing match, or street fight video?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:09:34 No.113017766 Report

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>>113017671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ2uMauyBow

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:19:16 No.113017879 Report

Quoted By: >>113018059

>Character goes through a traumatic series of events
>They have a shocked expression on their face.
>"That..."
>"was..."
>"AWESOME!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:25:43 No.113017960 Report

Quoted By:

>>112996728
Just say Kill la Kill

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:33:19 No.113018059 Report

Quoted By:

>>113017879
Almost an automatic DROPPED for me at this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:39:10 No.113018144 Report

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>>112999413
Power of friendship is cool if it's made clear the only reason the villain lost is because they had no one they could truly rely on while the hero does. But when it becomes a literal superpower, that just feels cheap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:43:20 No.113018199 Report

Quoted By: >>113021260 >>113023399

>>113001687
>i'm gonna be a quirkless hero!
>lol no kid, here's a quirk, you're welcome

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 17:50:20 No.113018284 Report

Quoted By: >>113018896

>this character is a deranged, genocidal warlord who eats puppies for breakfast and kills hundreds of people per day
>but hey, at least he's not a RAPIST
>look, he executed a henchman who was a RAPIsT
>man isn't he such a deep morally fray villain? he kills but he doesn't RAPE
Yes, rape is an awful crime, and probably one the worst things that can happen to you. But this "any rape is worse than LITERALLY any other crime" sentiment is bizarre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 18:31:22 No.113018867 Report

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>>113010999
The Flash does this most of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 18:34:05 No.113018896 Report

Quoted By: >>113020722

>>113018284
Oh hey did you just watch that weird ass King Arthur movie too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 18:36:24 No.113018926 Report

Quoted By:

>>113013513
>Main Hero x Rival Villain is a underrated gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 18:48:44 No.113019080 Report

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>>112998306
I’m pretty sure one of the newer Dragonball Z movies does this, which is weird because there are still dinosaurs in that world

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 18:58:16 No.113019230 Report

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>>113005786
>villains having good relationships with each other
>villains having fun being villains
>cheesecake, cheesecake, SHAMELESS CHEESECAKE
>dragons/dinosaurs
>mechanical dragons/dinosaurs
>dragons/dinosaurs with saddles and laser canons strapped on them
>spellcasters going bonkers with spells, fighting while making portals, conjuring objects, making objects act whacky, energy beams, elemental blasts, all together, pure insanity
>CAPES
>HAMMY AND CHEESY, ALL THE WAY
>happily ever after, be it for the hero or the villain
I am a child. I know. I don't care. There's a time and place for maturity and comics and cartoon isn't it. Not that there can't be good mature comics/cartoons, but in NO WAY is maturity necessary for quality and adult enjoyment in comics and cartoons.
They'll tell you it is.
But it's not.
It's not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 20:02:05 No.113020119 Report

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>>113003605
Fucking THIS. Holy shit I have never seen another person actually articulate this. The only people that matter in stories are the fucking rich, powerful, and SPECIAL. Peasants can go six fucking feet under, unless they have some sort of special bloodline.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 20:21:53 No.113020454 Report

Quoted By: >>113020504 >>113022853

>>112995858
>protagonist gets a power up that gives them an advantage over the bad guy
>either never uses it or loses it the next episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 20:25:02 No.113020504 Report

Quoted By: >>113022853

>>113020454
>They do use it
>They job every time they use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 20:30:42 No.113020589 Report

Quoted By:

>>112998342
>"Wait, I can explain!"
>Doesn't explain, or isn't allowed to explain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 20:38:20 No.113020722 Report

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>>113018896
which king arthur movie are you talking about?

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 20:41:33 No.113020757 Report

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>>113003352
>When this happened in Fullmetal Alchemist
>Ed just kept beating the shit out of Tucker for saying that
Only good use of that trope tee-bee-aych

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 20:58:36 No.113020965 Report

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>>113003352
I'll give credit to Ducktales 17 on this one.
>Magica tells Lena they're the same
>Lena goes out of her way to save Webby
>others point out Magica would never do that
>realizes she has friends and is a good person
>"I'm nothing like you"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:00:46 No.113020992 Report

Quoted By: >>113021055 >>113021337

>>112995858
>female character appears
>it becomes someone's dumb waifu

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:04:36 No.113021055 Report

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>>113020992
>male character appears
>it becomes someone's dumb husbando

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:13:49 No.113021191 Report

Quoted By: >>113021581

>people with progressive values make a cartoon
>adds gay stuff and characters
>makes me feel good because I'm gay and had a rough childhood
>then they start doing tranny stuff
>then they start doing nonbinary gender spectrum stuff
>then they start doing cuck polyamory stuff
>then you swear they imply beastiality

STOP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:17:42 No.113021260 Report

Quoted By:

>>113018199
>ah what the hell have another 6 quirks I don't care

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:22:48 No.113021337 Report

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>>113020992
I thought we were talking about fiction, not /co/

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:23:38 No.113021344 Report

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>>112997562
"HE DIDN'T GET OUT OF THE COCK-A-DOODY CAR!"

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:24:11 No.113021354 Report

Quoted By: >>113022743

>>113014609
Daredevil season 3
It’s done during the climax of their born again adaptation and Daredevil storms Kingpin’s “house arrest” fbi-protected penthouse.
>YOU DON’T GET TO CHANGE WHO I AM

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:35:52 No.113021497 Report

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>>112998346

this. cant fucking stand this trope, its essentially teaching any form of self improvement or growth is not being true to yourself/who you are or even selfish and you should just settle for being the same shitty, boring person/having the same shitty, boring life

i swear this mindset is why there are so many narcissists, its been pushed since the 90s and shows are rife with it now

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:40:44 No.113021581 Report

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>>113021191
Wait what show implies all of those?

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:47:03 No.113021660 Report

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>established duo or group of characters who have been friends for such a long time and have great chemistry
>at the end of a sequel they split up because the rules of the world change or one character acts out of character compared to how they were in previous installments

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 21:54:18 No.113021774 Report

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>>113000553
It also poisoned metafiction and made people dismiss good works that engage with their medium because of the number of hacks who used "DUDE IT ISN'T REAL ISN'T THAT FUNNY" too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 22:03:13 No.113021931 Report

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>>112995858
>t.Annie Wilkes

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 22:37:14 No.113022540 Report

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>Dad's an incompetent retard
>Mom's a genius
>Male character in a relationship is scolded/demonized for lusting after other women
>The female isn't, or is encouraged
>Male clothing adheres to physics, flashing body parts and so on
>female clothes are glued to their bodies

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 22:40:22 No.113022585 Report

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>>113012967
alternatively
>I can think of one important difference. I'm about to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 22:51:00 No.113022743 Report

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>>113021354
Loved this one. Killing Kingpin is literally what he wants, taking Vanessa away hurts him 10x more.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 22:54:17 No.113022802 Report

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>The girl power episode that doesn't actually teach a lesson or have anything worthwhile to say.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 22:57:19 No.113022853 Report

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>>113020454
>>113020504
>bad guy gets his own power up
>hero jobs

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:04:20 No.113022963 Report

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>>113006840
>Yeah, we know he killed thousands of people with his super drugs in that one episode, sure he goes around terrorizing the city with his goofy thugs, maybe he's made a serious go of conquering the world and has flat-out enslaved huge groups of people
>but we don't kill him, we wait for his evil schemes to come to our attention, beat him up a little and then let him run away!
>and if you don't like that you're as bad as he is!
Fucking Double Dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:07:29 No.113023027 Report

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>Hero and Villain fight "to the death"
>Hero wins, can't bring himself to kill Villain
>Villain tries to kill Hero, ends up dying in the process
>Hero's like, "Well, fuck. Okay."

What does this? I can only think of Frieza and Green Goblin (the movie version) so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:17:19 No.113023195 Report

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>>113023027
every single comic book protagonist besides the punisher.

shit, batman's most famous story has the joker somehow snapping his own neck.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:27:50 No.113023399 Report

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>>113009251
>>113018199
Deku had to work to actually get OfA before he could take it.
He clean an entire beach for a whole year by himself, and still works out to maintain his body.
He literally had to work hard to get a quirk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:34:03 No.113023497 Report

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>>113022802
Always came off as thinly-veiled fanservice to me. Tacky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:34:57 No.113023511 Report

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>>113012792
Inoffensive values that do not threaten the status of the global neoliberal elite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:43:03 No.113023644 Report

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>>113015163
So is this alot of samefagging? This isn't /a/.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:45:43 No.113023688 Report

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>>113023399
This. It makes seven quirks especially infuriating, because unlike OFA, he didn't have to work for them. Hori really pulled a Naruto on us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:51:27 No.113023778 Report

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>>113023688
People were speculating early on that OFA would involve him gaining the quirks of previous users. What is wrong with their Superman having multiple superpowers? People complain either way, originally that having super strength is 'boring'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:52:00 No.113023787 Report

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>>113023688
While not working for them directly, he'll still have to learn to control and use them or they'll likely kill him like Black Whips almost did.
Espeically so since OFA increased their power after transfer and with most of the original quirk owners dead, it seems like a great chance for Deku to train under hero or even his friends with similar quirk on control.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:55:05 No.113023836 Report

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>>113023778
>>113023787
It feels cheap to me, at least the way it was introduced. I was expecting the quirks of the other users to be implemented into OFA somehow as well, it's obvious. But the way Hori did it was awful, as opposed to it being directly tied to OFA,it's something only Deku can do because he's thuper special and unique and dah chozen juan, which doesn't make any sense because I have no fucking idea what makes him more qualified than someone like Toshinori outside of being the Protagonist. I'm not looking forward to what Hori does with them, because with his track record, I'm expecting them to be all Get-out-of-jail-free cards like Blackwhip was in a way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Feb 2020 23:57:13 No.113023871 Report

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>>113023836
Why did you come into this thread and make all these posts about mango and anime

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