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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 00:11:53 2020 No.112783955 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>112784464 >>112785710 >>112787039 >>112787560 >>112787810

Im making something. Show me complicated combat techniques in comics. I dont want no fucking Marvel/DC-

>"Im trained in 57 different martial arts"
>*THWAK*

type bullshit. Im drawing Sambo takedowns and pistol executions in particular but show me the good shit

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 00:43:34 No.112784441 Report

Quoted By: >>112785697

I don't think it really exists

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 00:44:42 No.112784464 Report

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>>112783955
go for it because there isnt really much battle/martial arts comics that use actual martial arts moves, maybe you could take inspiration from manga, like baki grappler or teppu

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 01:56:28 No.112785697 Report

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>>112784464
>>112784441

What a load of shit. I was expecting there to be some obscure batman issue or something. I dont really see it in manga either because even the ones about specific arts like grappling or swordsmanship its just the spectacle of the end pose, moment of impact or a convoluted depiction or exposition the "spirit" of the move.

The fuckin Kinikku buster is all about holding the end pose, all of Vagabond is more about Bushido itself and BNHs entire choreography is based around "i punch you once, but REALLY hard". I havnt read Baki yet but im gonna assume there are no 3 panel sequences that smoothly show a scissor takedown an armbar or something that would be a Super Art in a game.

Well, it looks like ive found my answers with a lack of answers, i think i might just put short animations inside panels where i want to show a move, or try and condense throws and combos into sequences

Might be a good draw to the work itself. Yknow, there actually being fighting in a story about fighting.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 01:57:34 No.112785710 Report

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>>112783955
>>112785697
You sound gay

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 02:15:53 No.112786145 Report

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>>112785710
Youre the one who probably instantly went to "sweaty men".

The character im drawing is actually a woman and the first thing i thought of was Black Canary in comics compared to Black Canary in Injustice 2

But uh. You continue thinking about muscle dudes i aint gonna hate on ya pal.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 02:58:17 No.112787039 Report

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>>112783955
Check out Badger comics. Maybe old Shang Chi stuff.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 03:05:34 No.112787225 Report

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 03:15:45 No.112787428 Report

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>>112785697
Comics as a medium aren't really designed for complex breakdowns of moves. Most of the time, you'll see a starting pose and an end pose.
The nature of the medium is to communicate enough so that the viewer can fill in the blanks.

It also helps keep the flow of the comic moving. Showcasing every step of a complicated hold might work well when leading up to a dramatic conclusion, but otherwise hurts the pacing of the scene.

This is also why talking is a free action.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 03:23:36 No.112787560 Report

Quoted By: >>112787722

>>112783955
Bitch, do your own work.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 03:31:44 No.112787682 Report

Quoted By: >>112789163

>>112787428
Yeah but
>>112787225
Proves you wrong. Why the fuck am i gonna read a comic talking all this shit about how two combatants are master martial artists, get two pictures of fucking "BOOM, BIFF" and be told "im supposed to fill in the blanks". Fig A,B and C are communicated clearly, readable and the speech bubbles allow for dialogue, exposition or whatever else drives the actual plot forward.

The nature of the medium is to communicate a narrative visually. Not cop out and not show it because YOU dont think the viewer needs to see it. Not "communicate (just) enough". If you tell me Sigvard Bellhopper, Master of Fuk Chou spent 20 years fighting on a planet with no formal training but couldnt die, then showed his batshit complicated moves as a beautiful single page of drawings of how each key pose smoothly flows into each other then im more likely to believe you, the character and the narrative. Which is why i like stuff like Animal Man where The Red is actually drawn instead of "He contacted the spirits and turned his hands into snakes :D"

Thanks for reading my fucking blog post.

Also BlackCatnon thanks guy this is 100% what i was looking for.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 03:34:04 No.112787722 Report

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>>112787560
I am doing my own work, which is why im not paying someone to illustrate a script and making my own comic. I just though maybe an imageboard would be the place to obtain and discuss images.

Go back to you cartoon waifu thread

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 03:38:59 No.112787810 Report

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>>112783955
Comics as a medium is not suited to multiple actions that take place between two characters or more; particularly if you want to have the speed of those action conveyed succinctly.

Your best bet is to think of long-form fight manga, probably.

When this comic came, out though, it blew my mind. If you can, track down a hard copy, because the actions portrayed, and the implied perception and legibility of those actions is just unreal. https://www.deviantart.com/chrischua/gallery/23795035/liquid-fury-graphic-novel

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 04:51:09 No.112789163 Report

Quoted By: >>112790163

>>112787682
Sure, doing that might work for one page, but most comics can't afford to do something like that consistently. It breaks the flow of storytelling. A page like this only really works as a series of instructional illustrations.
However, if you're constructing an entire fight scene, depicting a constantly moving game of strength and strategy, such detail risks breaking the flow of storytelling. At worst, it can draw things out to a ludicrous extent.

It's really a matter of pacing, is what I'm trying to say. That's why more often than not, comics expect reader's to fill in the blanks between panels.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Jan 2020 05:53:51 No.112790163 Report

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>>112789163
Thanks for sharing your opinions with me. It helps identify a way through. My work isnt based so heavily on the narrative so much as the art and the action itself so pacing, while extremely important for an Alan Moore novel for example, isnt really a ln issue. Its no, Six Billion Demons or Invincible or any kind of thing like that per se which is why im focusing so much on how a fight looks because its essentially all going to be what happens after the "cutscene" ends in a videogame so it shouldnt hurt any pacing.

To put it simply im doing a breach and enter scene in a weapons and armour facility followed by a few pages of fighting to an objective. Its a short thing and the plot can unravel over the course of me doing more parts.

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