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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 16:35:39 2020 No.112562280 View Reply Original Report

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Where were you when Netflix dethroned Disney as the king of animation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:40:05 No.112562343 Report

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>>112562280
Everyone who thinks Disney lost because Frozen II didn't get a nomination is retarded. Disney is playing the long con: If they had Toy Story 4 + Frozen II competing, they would have people splitting the vote causing a loss like Spiderverse. This is more strategic to get voters to just blindly go for Toy Story and still give Disney a win.

The only actual loss Disney has had was not being able to convince the academy that Lion King is a live-action movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:41:59 No.112562369 Report

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>>112562343
>The only actual loss Disney has had was not being able to convince the academy that Lion King is a live-action movie.
That and not getting Endgame into any category that wasn't effects oriented.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:43:56 No.112562403 Report

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>>112562343
Zootopia and Moana competed together and Disney still won with the former.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:47:45 No.112562450 Report

Quoted By: >>112562527 >>112565712 >>112567141 >>112569768 >>112572557

I'm still mad Todd Philips got a best director nomination. Joker was such a mediocre movie that was elevated by a good performance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:52:47 No.112562527 Report

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>>112562450
He won't get it calm down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:53:48 No.112562546 Report

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>>112562527
I know he won't get it, but there were better directors who deserved the nomination at the least.

Also I'm mad Lupita got snubbed. She should have been considered a serious contender, but I know the academy hates horror movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:55:41 No.112562572 Report

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>>112562403
Disney's only competition there was Kubo. No one was going to vote the two foreign movies. It won by a lucky crappy nominee list. But after Spiderverse winning, they're probably going to start treading more carefully about making them compete against themselves. Why have 5 votes for Frozen and 5 votes for Toy Story and allow Klaus to win with 6 votes when you could've had 10 votes all together if you just got rid of one of your movies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:56:00 No.112562583 Report

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"Where is my body" is a great movie anyway
Useless Western awards can go fuck themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:57:32 No.112562603 Report

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>>112562546
Get Out won for best screenplay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 16:59:43 No.112562637 Report

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>>112562603
It's an outlier. And you could argue Get Out was more a political commentary than a horror film. Us was less blunt about it's commentaries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:05:49 No.112562748 Report

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>>112562572
This theory makes sense, but there’s something I don’t get. Frozen 2 was still submitted for nomination but didn’t get one, right? If Disney has enough control to rig the nomination selections, couldn’t they just rig the final votes just as easily, meaning none of this strategy or the awards process matters to the end result anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:06:45 No.112562770 Report

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>>112562369
Honestly I don’t know why they didn’t push infinity war more for that, it was the better movie and certainly deserved a best adaptation nod

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:08:45 No.112562805 Report

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>>112562572
>>112562748
Why overblow this to be anything more than just judges turn their noses at animation and just being purely lazy? Disney just wins this nomination for speaking the right language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:13:02 No.112562880 Report

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>>112562805
If they were just lazy, Frozen 2 would’ve gotten a slot because “my kids saw that one.”

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:14:51 No.112562900 Report

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>>112562280
Love or hate Netflix, you can’t deny they take chances with animation. Something like “I Lost My Body” would never get made by Disney; Klaus probably but as a 3D CG movie, which would take away its charm. Not to mention all the cartoons they make both for kids and adults.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:15:10 No.112562903 Report

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>>112562280
Shitposting on /co/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:15:38 No.112562908 Report

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>>112562748
Aren't voters anonymous? How can you bribe people if you don't know who they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:16:35 No.112562923 Report

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>>112562908
they're anonymous to general pop. not so much with major film distributors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:17:50 No.112562942 Report

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>>112562343
Or maybe the academy only nominated Toy Story 4 as ratingsbait and will give the award to something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:20:14 No.112562979 Report

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>>112562942
The problem is most of the academy don't care about the best animation category. Have you read the comments from voters from past years.

There are plenty of voters who make it clear they don't care, they just voted for whatever their kids liked.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:31:59 No.112563168 Report

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>>112562979
Last year they said Disney was old hat and gave the Oscar to a different studio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:38:11 No.112563254 Report

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>>112563168
>shits on Mouse
>shits on weebs
Damn, what a based voter

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:40:08 No.112563283 Report

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>>112563168
> it almost felt like live action

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:42:48 No.112563318 Report

Quoted By: >>112563577

I'd just like to say that this video of the Klaus crew finding out their movie got nominated is just the most adorable thing ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfTitvzOup8
The woman who initially gets disappointed because she figures the Academy used up their one pick for a non-major studio is definitely /ourgirl/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 17:54:06 No.112563452 Report

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>>112562280
>snubbed
Frozen 2's writing quality didn't deserve the nomination over those 5 competitors, so it's not snubbed. Oscars did right job on animation this year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:00:49 No.112563542 Report

Quoted By: >>112564147 >>112572251

>>112562280
The hopeful part of me says Klaus will win. The cynical part of me says The Disney/Pixar award will go to Toy Story 4. And that's comin from a guy who liked Toy Story 4 even more than 2, definitely more than 3. Toy Story 4 is like someone watched 3 and went "hold on, I got a better idea for how to end all this."

Seriously, 3 is Woody and Andy parting ways, which would have been nice except we didn't learn anything about Andy, he's just a typical kid. Toy Story 4 is when Buzz and Woody part ways, there's more weight to that, and they brought back Bo Peep in a way that felt earned. And the villain was definitely better than Stinky Pete and Stinky Pete 2.0.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:02:45 No.112563575 Report

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>>112562280
Haha keep dreaming. Frozen 2 is just a sequel & Netflix sucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:02:53 No.112563577 Report

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>>112563318
Meh, have you seen Zootopia crew reacting to their victory? now THAT'S excitement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:15:24 No.112563784 Report

Quoted By: >>112572808

>>112563168
>The last time I was this excited [by an animated film] was when I saw Shrek.
This dude is great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:23:20 No.112563920 Report

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>>112562748
Because while everyone votes for the winner, the nominees are selected by people actually in the relevant fields.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:24:15 No.112563939 Report

Quoted By: >>112567436

>>112563920
Didn’t they change that like two years ago, and now everybody can decide on the nominees?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:36:19 No.112564147 Report

Quoted By: >>112564271 >>112568462

>>112563542
I really want Klaus to win, but I definitely feel like Spider-Man winning last year was because it was SO good and it really stuck out among the other nominees as the obvious winner. Klaus is good and really beautiful, but it doesn’t have the great reception from the mainstream like spiderverse has. And toy story 4 is arguably stronger that Ralph breaks the internet, so I feel like it’s also a stronger contender for Disney this year. Especially since it pulled the feels card. I have a sinking feeling like TS4 might win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:44:29 No.112564271 Report

Quoted By: >>112564384 >>112572274

>>112564147
I dunno', Incredibles 2 still did pretty well even though the general consensus was it was actually pretty dull. I don't think I've seen much talk around TS4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 18:50:42 No.112564384 Report

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>>112564271
That’s true, I think TS4 and Incredibles 2 are more equal in terms of quality. WIR2 was just bad, and I’m glad it lost. I think incredibles would have won if Spiderverse wasn’t such a powerhouse.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:22:02 No.112565016 Report

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>>112563283
ikr? TF does that even mean?

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:41:15 No.112565457 Report

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Can Disney shills get any more brainwashed?

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:43:47 No.112565504 Report

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>>112565457
>LOLOL DISNEY SHILLS DEFENDING SHIT JUST BECAUSE IT MADE A MILLION DOLLARS
Oh but Joker deserves 11 nominations because it made a billion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:47:30 No.112565595 Report

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>>112565504
Anon, are you saying you think Andrew Dobson is right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 19:52:47 No.112565712 Report

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>>112562450
Cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:04:45 No.112565993 Report

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>>112562280
Oscar nominations are just based on what the judge's kids talk about.
Kids are much more likely to see Netflix movies than they are theatrical ones now.
I see how this could happen.

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 20:05:43 No.112566016 Report

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>>112562280
>>112562343

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 21:06:33 No.112567141 Report

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>>112562450
Seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 21:08:45 No.112567176 Report

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Oscars are a Joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 21:23:25 No.112567436 Report

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>>112563939
Non-animation-branch members are required to watch a certain number of animated films before voting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 21:24:29 No.112567456 Report

Quoted By: >>112569845

Disney making Disney+ Original animated movies when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 21:37:17 No.112567657 Report

Quoted By: >>112568524

man...I'm really starting to accept this corporate strategy conspiracy. Spider-Man wins last year because kids love spider-man, it's a recognizable name so judges are gonna vote because they always vote on what their kids watch or a name they recognize. This year Disney pulls Frozen because a) Toy Story has a long history and name recognition and b) voiced by Academy darling Tom Hanks.
Even if it's a Netflix movie, after last year, don't risk splitting the ticket against a Santa movie. Even if none of them saw it, its either
>well my kids still believe in santa, why not
or
>that sounds wholesome, that'll make people feel good seeing that win. Make em watch us next year

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 22:19:27 No.112568462 Report

Quoted By: >>112570165

>>112564147
>I definitely feel like Spider-Man winning last year was because it was SO good and it really stuck out among the other nominees as the obvious winner
And also the MC was black so it got diversity points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 22:21:52 No.112568524 Report

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>>112567657
You can't "pull" a movie from award contention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 23:26:56 No.112569752 Report

Quoted By: >>112571659

>>112562280
>Frozen 2 subbed
It was shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 23:27:59 No.112569768 Report

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>>112562450
>I MUST TALK ABOUT JOKER ALL THE TIME!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 23:30:45 No.112569809 Report

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>>112565504
No Joker deserved it because it was a good movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 23:32:37 No.112569845 Report

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>>112567456
Not until cinema dwindles in popularity. If Disney is going to put big bucks in animation, you better believe they're going to try to get the most out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 23:41:49 No.112570014 Report

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>Disney rehash gets snubbed

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The only good sequel is Shrek 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2020 23:52:23 No.112570165 Report

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>>112568462
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 00:34:29 No.112570820 Report

Quoted By: >>112571411

>>112562280
>pick up one movie that was in a torturous development hell as a borderline work of charity
>get distribution rights to another movie you had nothing to do with
>"king of animation"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:13:24 No.112571411 Report

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>>112570820
Beats producing two cashgrab sequels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:19:05 No.112571503 Report

Quoted By: >>112571633 >>112572331

>>112562280
If there was any justice for the best animation oscar, France or Japan would have won every single year since 1985.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:28:32 No.112571633 Report

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>>112571503
>since 1985
But the award started in 2001.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:30:47 No.112571659 Report

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>>112569752
The author doesn’t know what’s the meaning of snub

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 01:38:10 No.112571760 Report

Quoted By: >>112572384

I heard the oscars nomination committee members in animation category this year are all experienced in animation critics, not the other members who never watch the film but give the votes because their kids watched it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:09:44 No.112572251 Report

Quoted By: >>112572990

>>112563542
get ready for Toy Story 5, anon (this series should have end with the 3 movie)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:10:47 No.112572274 Report

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>>112564271
>I dunno', Incredibles 2 still did pretty well even though the general consensus was it was actually pretty dull. I don't think I've seen much talk around TS4.
how? incredibles 2 was incredibles 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:13:59 No.112572331 Report

Quoted By: >>112573019

>>112571503
>France or Japan would have won every single year
anon there are good american movies Toy Story 3 was KINO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:17:03 No.112572384 Report

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>>112571760
>I heard the oscars nomination committee members in animation category this year are all experienced in animation critics
source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:26:41 No.112572515 Report

Quoted By: >>112574345

>>112563577
>Meh, have you seen Zootopia crew reacting to their victory? now THAT'S excitement.
source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:29:24 No.112572557 Report

Quoted By: >>112572839

>>112562450
>>112562546
You hate white people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:39:41 No.112572708 Report

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>>112565504
HONK HONK

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:48:05 No.112572808 Report

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>>112563784
To be fair, it's easy to forget there was a time where Shrek was actually original, different, and actually a bit subversive. Then everyone copied it really hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 02:50:00 No.112572839 Report

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>>112572557
Not at all, I'd say that 4 of the best director nominees deserve their nominations. I'd also say that Renee, Scarlet, and Soirse earned their best actress nominations. The only one I'm not certain on is Charlize. I love Charlize's work, but I heard Bombshell isn't that great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 03:02:34 No.112572990 Report

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>>112572251
As Tom Hanks' retirement, it's hard to make another appealing Toy Story movie without Woody, so Pixar had better to develop another new sustainable IP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 03:04:35 No.112573019 Report

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>>112572331
Wall-E, Ratatouille are masterpiece

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 03:07:19 No.112573058 Report

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>>112562280
Nice, now to finance Don Bluth so he can get one more movie out before he dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 04:21:39 No.112574219 Report

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>>112573058
Bakshi as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 04:25:15 No.112574265 Report

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>>112562343
>Everyone who thinks Disney lost because Frozen II didn't get a nomination is retarded. Disney is playing the long con: If they had Toy Story 4 + Frozen II competing, they would have people splitting the vote causing a loss like Spiderverse. This is more strategic to get voters to just blindly go for Toy Story and still give Disney a win.
>
>The only actual loss Disney has had was not being able to convince the academy that Lion King is a live-action movie.
I mean that'd be fine, but Toy Story 4 is utter shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 04:31:00 No.112574345 Report

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>>112572515
It's somewhere on the Zootopia Reddit, I can't share link right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 06:05:29 No.112575473 Report

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>>112562280
Watching Disney laughing all the way to the bank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2020 06:10:40 No.112575531 Report

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fucking kek oscar is still a wankfest for garbage animations

i couldnt imagine the west was this self centered blind and absolutely hivemind driven. they hate a change. the same asshats as trump.

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