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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 21:20:36 2019 No.111491799 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>111493081 >>111494414

>>111487039

Top tier:
Batman that doesnt kill because he feels if he did he wouldn't be able to stop; also doesnt feel the need to save criminals from their own devices. Not above using torture, psychological warfare or other means to get the job done. Over all Stoic Batman, but has moments of levity or banter

Neutral/ Meh tier:
Batman doesnt kill because it's up to the courts/ system to carry out punishment; he's only there to stop/ prevent further casualties. Probably the "fun" campy Batman

Bottom rung shit tier:
Batman doesnt kill because "lol hes just as Cuh-razy as the bad guys! xD" obsessive mental disorder Batman. Is angry, shitty to everyone all the time, and constantly compensating because he's "THE GODDAMN BATMAN! xD"

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 22:39:44 No.111493081 Report

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>>111491799
It is a combination of Meh tier and top tier. The idea that someone with the metal fortitude of Batman couldn't "stop killing" is dumb and is very much related to your bottom tier opinion that he is kinda crazy. Batman ultimately is a law man he doesn't kill for the same reason Gordon doesn't kill. The difference is that Gordon;

A- Operates within the law so he "could" kill someone if the situation absolutely requires it Batman just doesn't have that option.

B- Batman is far more equipped than Gordon, the few instance we do see Gordon or {police officers in general ,ideally speaking} kill are in self defense and to protect someone else Batman can and does regularly do this non-lethally.

Batman represents more, and he was always intended to;
>“People need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy, and I can't do that as Bruce Wayne. As a man, I'm flesh and blood. I can be ignored. I can be destroyed. But as a symbol, as a symbol I can be incorruptible, I can be everlasting.”
Batman's goal was never to necessarily stop every single instant of "crime" per-say but to affect how justice is perceived on a more grand level. The whole point of the Joker is to destroy that idea the idea of lawful vengeance or the idea of The Long Arm of The Law;
>The best part about it is, I still won. Because I finally made you lose control. Made you break your one rule. And now, the civilized people you've struggled to protect? They're going to hunt you for this. Hunt you like a dog. They're gonna kill you, Brucie. So, I'll see you...in hell!

I have put way too much effort into this 4chan post.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 22:42:06 No.111493122 Report

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Batman is such a dick. Green Lantern kills, he’s not murdering everybody.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 23:17:36 No.111493755 Report

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>>111493081

I just appreciate the thoughtful response anon. It would've been so much easier just to shitpost.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Nov 2019 23:43:56 No.111494170 Report

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>>111493755
Just watched this episode again today. You'd think Batman would personal make it clear that he's the one who saved the mayor's son so he would get off of Batman's back.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2019 00:01:24 No.111494414 Report

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>Batman that doesnt kill because he feels if he did he wouldn't be able to stop
This is doghit tier though. Shit like this is the peak of the modern need to over-rationalize everything in cape books at the cost of sacrificing their initial ideas. Batman not killing is supposed to be something he firmly believes in. It's what gives him strength as a character. He doesn't kill because that's what he initially conveys as a concept: justice, not revenge.

But if we go by the ridiculous narrative that if Batman ever killed a single criminal, he would instantly enter a psychopath mode for some reason and went on a killing spree, then what does this even convey? It could work as a tragic idea that, while Batman is trying to do the right thing, he's still far from a saint himself, and the only reason anyone tolerates him is because there's no one else to do the job. But this idea simply doesn't work in the concept of an extrended universe, because there are literally hundreds of people to do the job. Logically, this version of Batman would have retired/killed himself after raising the rest of the Batfamily. So in order to justify the existence of this version, you have to give him some insane capabilities that no one else has so that people are forced to tolerate him... and thus, we have Batwank. Additionally, all the stories where the writers try to treat him as a legitimate hero would just start looking like blatant hypocrisy. So, basically, this half-assed "explanation" creates more problems than it solves.

The real solution is to stop trying to shock the audience by portraying Joker and the rest of Batman's rogues as so ridiculously monstrous and dangerous that no sane person would want them alive or functional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 23 Nov 2019 00:02:27 No.111494431 Report

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>Batman that doesnt kill because he feels if he did he wouldn't be able to stop
This is dogshit tier though. Shit like this is the peak of the modern need to over-rationalize everything in cape books at the cost of sacrificing their initial ideas. Batman not killing is supposed to be something he firmly believes in. It's what gives him strength as a character. He doesn't kill because that's what he initially conveys as a concept: justice, not revenge.

But if we go by the ridiculous narrative that if Batman ever killed a single criminal, he would instantly enter a psychopath mode for some reason and went on a killing spree, then what does this even convey? It could work as a tragic idea that, while Batman is trying to do the right thing, he's still far from a saint himself, and the only reason anyone tolerates him is because there's no one else to do the job. But this idea simply doesn't work in the concept of an extrended universe, because there are literally hundreds of people to do the job. Logically, this version of Batman would have retired/killed himself after raising the rest of the Batfamily. So in order to justify the existence of this version, you have to give him some insane capabilities that no one else has so that people are forced to tolerate him... and thus, we have Batwank. Additionally, all the stories where the writers try to treat him as a legitimate hero would just start looking like blatant hypocrisy. So, basically, this half-assed "explanation" creates more problems than it solves.

The real solution is to stop trying to shock the audience by portraying Joker and the rest of Batman's rogues as so ridiculously monstrous and dangerous that no sane person would want them alive or functional. But that would require nuance.

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