These are the stories I've heard for years. Along with "Conway was freaked out by the hate". When I talk about these issues, I literally have them open, on a complete "amazing spider-man" set from the 90s on CD. I can see, for example, the Gwen feels entitled to attention. And that Mary Jane is fucking crazy, self centered, and very, very sexually forward.
You can't take Stan at face value, he lies. Everyone knows that. But Conway isn't exactly a font of truth either.https://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/09/08/fanboy-rampage-gerry-conway-vs-tony-isabella-on-who-created-black-lightning/
Conway acknowledges his mistakes, but he makes plenty.
Maybe I was wrong, but the stories I've heard for literally decades- before the internet even- were that Stan wanted to do a Betty and Veronica thing. That absolutely scans.
Now, the core argument here is whether Gwen is interesting or just a dumb bitch everyone hated, and whether MJ or Gwen was better.
Gwen wasn't hated by "everyone". Full stop. Maybe she was a bitch, but she came to a pretty full stop on that by the time she and Peter were dating; after that when she's mad, she pretty much always has a good reason.
Mary Jane is absolutely a bitch, especially to Gwen. She makes snide comments implying she shouldn't be someplace, she isn't welcome, or that MJ would be happier if she weren't there to Gwen's face regularly. Mary Jane keeps offering herself to Peter in front of her later boyfriend, Harry. The fucking dancing thing. The "helping" May move in with Anna thing. The proposal rejection, that Conway tried to clean up but still remains a singularly cruel and trashy thing to do.
These are factual fucking events in the actual comic.
You like MJ better? Good for fucking you. But qut trying to fucking rewrite history.