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Apparently, this never happened

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 23:04:37 2019 No.110118847 View Reply Original Report

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Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:05:14 No.110118869 Report

Quoted By: >>110118996 >>110119355 >>110130649 >>110133109 >>110143589 >>110146451 >>110150363

>>110118847
i wish this show never happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:06:49 No.110118908 Report

Quoted By: >>110118935 >>110123282 >>110125208

It did, but Pearl was pretending to be one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:07:52 No.110118935 Report

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>>110118908
i mean. she was there wasn't she?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:08:58 No.110118961 Report

Quoted By: >>110140062

>>110118847
Rose Quartz, backed by the Crystal Gems and her diamond powers, fights the Diamond Authority.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:09:27 No.110118974 Report

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>>110118847
yeah its all symbolic
white is the leader of all gems and rose challenged her power

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:10:15 No.110118988 Report

Quoted By: >>110119086 >>110121632

>>110118847
yeah why did they retcon garnet being a mass-produced drone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:10:34 No.110118996 Report

Quoted By: >>110119165 >>110127302 >>110143589

>>110118869
I have followed the show since the beginning and it was my favorite cartoon for years.
I agree with you. SU takes disappointing to a new level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:14:38 No.110119086 Report

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>>110118988
That was always a stupid theory, even moreso when they revealed she was a fusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:17:48 No.110119165 Report

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>>110118996
Felt the same through season 1. Jail break was the beginning of slow and tortuous decline

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Anonymous Wed 18 Sep 2019 23:25:03 No.110119355 Report

Quoted By: >>110126065

>>110118869
I watched all those seasons and the movie, and I can say that I have a love-hate relationship with the show. The show can be fantastical and grand, but then trip and fall into a downward spiral that takes 5 episodes to get out of.
>pic definitely related

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 00:47:02 No.110121632 Report

Quoted By: >>110123407

>>110118988
They hinted at her being a fusion really early on anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 00:50:20 No.110121729 Report

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>>110118847
That stupid mural inspired so much speculation. All of it baseless cause I guess it never really mattered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 00:52:06 No.110121782 Report

Quoted By: >>110122548 >>110123084

>>110118847
Maybe is depicting a battle with some White gem other than White Diamond

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:12:10 No.110122349 Report

Quoted By: >>110122393 >>110122756 >>110126026 >>110145455

>>110118847
how much stuff did the writers have set in stone from the start of the show? was rose always intended to be pink diamod?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:13:45 No.110122393 Report

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>>110122349
Apparently yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:18:45 No.110122548 Report

Quoted By: >>110124994 >>110144027

>>110121782
Isn't the gem they took from that pyramid also white and vaguely diamond shaped?

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:26:45 No.110122756 Report

Quoted By: >>110124522 >>110136869

>>110122349
Probably, this is from Season 1 and Love Like You has always been the ending theme, even if it was remixed a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:38:08 No.110123084 Report

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>>110121782
It could be some gem general Rose beat and bubbled somewhere leaving her to return someday for revenge as a future antagonist.
Because it’s not Steven Universe if he’s not cleaning up messes caused by his mother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:44:41 No.110123282 Report

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>>110118908
this, OP is retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:45:36 No.110123302 Report

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>>110118847
It's like the holocaust. In reality Steven just went back in time and befriended hitler. The rest is artistic slander.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:47:13 No.110123346 Report

Quoted By: >>110130790

maybe it was a prophecy> Some Saphire saw that rose was going to take on White Diamond in the far future, and they made the mural based on that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:49:23 No.110123407 Report

Quoted By: >>110123572 >>110126645

>>110121632
How early on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:50:01 No.110123429 Report

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>>110118847
It's a metaphor.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:52:53 No.110123503 Report

Quoted By: >>110123638 >>110123763 >>110125063

Always liked the Mural style and "mysteriousness" of Gem architecture from S1. The Sea Spire in particular sticks out. Did they have this in the later seasons?

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:55:57 No.110123572 Report

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>>110123407
This is from the 2013 pilot, if you can't tell from the potato quality, it's Garnet between the red and blue rocks

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 01:58:42 No.110123638 Report

Quoted By: >>110123721 >>110125735 >>110137255 >>110140211

>>110123503
>Did they have this in the later seasons?
After season two nearly all of the cool magical shit randomly disappears and it is entirely gone by season four.
Season two has a Garnet flashback episode with a lot of that style in it.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:01:28 No.110123721 Report

Quoted By: >>110123855 >>110123942

>>110123638
A damn shame
The "Mystical/Techno Ancient Empire Ruins" aesethetic was great. Hate they dropped it for just a generic Sci-Fi Tech Empire

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:03:06 No.110123763 Report

Quoted By: >>110125210

>>110123503
>The Sea Spire in particular sticks out
Hell yeah it did. Any chance S6 will feature a return to exploring comfy, mysterious ruins?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:06:37 No.110123855 Report

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>>110123721
My headcanon is that Blue was responsible for lots of the architecture and arts of the Empire, and with her spending thousands of years grieving instead of doing her job during era 2 Yellow had to step in so all the architecture went from fancy decorated murals and all to bland spartan sci-fi functionality.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:09:41 No.110123942 Report

Quoted By: >>110124152 >>110124180

>>110123721
Sucrose, in an interview: Homeworld's going to be like nothing you've ever seen before. It's going to be totally alien and bizarre!

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:17:55 No.110124152 Report

Quoted By: >>110125090

>>110123942
>It's just a generic authoritarian one-big-city sci fi world
So boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:18:47 No.110124180 Report

Quoted By: >>110125112

>>110123942
>Seasons 1, 2 & 3
>A consistent visual style for gem tech that simultaneously gave it the appearance of mystical ruins and scientifically advanced alien tech
>Season four
>Pretty much just normal alien stuff
>Season five
>Season 4's look but this time throw some faces on things
It hurts desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:31:51 No.110124522 Report

Quoted By: >>110124707 >>110125212 >>110131514

>>110122756
...Why the hell did Pearl have a suit with Pink Diamond's insignia anyways? Besides muh foreshadowing.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:40:35 No.110124707 Report

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>>110124522
because she's pink diamond's pearl

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:54:46 No.110124994 Report

Quoted By: >>110136986 >>110144027

>>110122548
Probably? was suppose to be White but later changed the story, the concept art showed the statue T posing like White does in the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:57:35 No.110125045 Report

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Makes me wonder how Era 2 would be if Yellow was the one sulking and Blue took control of the Empire
I'd say she'd value use of magic and special artifacts rather than technology
As for Era 2 Gems, would be more like cultists than worker insects

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:58:12 No.110125063 Report

Quoted By: >>110125222 >>110125324 >>110125409 >>110125719 >>110130456 >>110130848 >>110135721 >>110139997 >>110140808

>>110123503
Season 1 was soft retconed, it showed Gem having more culture outside of being just cogs in a machine. You even showed statues with four arms as if fusion was not taboo in their society.

What I don't get is what the fuck is Lion's mane? later episodes showed gems to be just aliens with technology but Lion is a weird magical thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 02:59:20 No.110125090 Report

Quoted By: >>110125183

>>110124152
Is not even that, is a bunch of abstract shapes vaguely resembling a futuristic city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:00:20 No.110125112 Report

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>>110124180
I liked the living statues in Blue's bathtub, they where aesthetically similar to what season 1 was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:01:30 No.110125146 Report

Quoted By: >>110150608

>>110124707
But she has head pearl

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:03:14 No.110125183 Report

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>>110125090
I always wished they'd at least explore other planets, see more of the Gem empire's impact beyond Earth, or that zoo, or Homeworld. It feels like such wasted potential, and the Diamond Authority feels so small

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:04:29 No.110125208 Report

Quoted By: >>110125466

>>110118908
who the fuck is pearl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:04:29 No.110125210 Report

Quoted By: >>110137255 >>110137293

>>110123763
No chance, it'll be nothing but gem alien episodes and townie shit, no more travelling except to the barn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:04:38 No.110125212 Report

Quoted By: >>110125448

>>110124522
She probably had it back in her "actual servitude to pink diamond" days, and used it out of habit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:04:55 No.110125222 Report

Quoted By: >>110125311 >>110125382 >>110125466

>>110125063
Maybe those temples and shit were built by Rose Quartz-aligned gems? Who knows what kind of deviant culture was going on in the Earth colony

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:08:26 No.110125311 Report

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>>110125222
Doesn't sound right, rebels are not the kind of people to make lavish structures in the middle of a war.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:08:58 No.110125324 Report

Quoted By: >>110125442

>>110125063
I mean, when we went to homeworld in later seasons, you could also see a bunch of broken statues down beneath the surface (near the kindergartens)
I imagine that the idea is that homeworld WAS more cultured in era 1. While gems still had pre-assigned roles in society, they were allowed some freedom to act and entertain each other. Then when pink left - the supposed positive influence on other diamonds - it all went to shit, and they turned much more machinistic.

If anything was soft-retconned out of season 1, it's the extent and mysticism of gem "magic".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:11:16 No.110125382 Report

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>>110125222
I would've really liked to see a flashback of the war during it's later phases, we only ever see the early stuff and then the final battle where everyone gets irradiated.

It'd be neat to see the CG's as an actual big unified army, winning battles, getting glory, and yeah, maybe settling in a bit themselves and building things, since it's not like they could all live in the temple.

As it is it's just kind of hard to feel anything towards all the irradiated gems now that they're free, unless in the next season they're gonna be left out entirely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:11:21 No.110125387 Report

Quoted By: >>110125513

>>110118847
rose quartz uses the love of pink diamond to her strategic advantage

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:12:10 No.110125409 Report

Quoted By: >>110125471 >>110125478 >>110125506 >>110134339

>>110125063
Makes me wonder who the hell carved the temple?
I get that its a statue of Obsidian, but Amethyst wasn't in the war so its relatively recent. But no one in the group of the gems seems like the kind of person that would build something like that.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:13:43 No.110125438 Report

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>>110118847
>Apparently, this never happened
I would like you to forget all your fan theories and look at this again.
Despite what you want to believe, nowhere does this picture say "rose fought pink/white diamond". It's a picture of rose fighting a vague white character with a triangular chest gem. It could have just as well represented her battle with a particularly powerful homeworld general, who was sent here prior to the "shattering".
The characters surrounding rose are just droplets stacked on top of fish. They are not necessarily garnets, they can be literally any gems, it's just a vaguely humanoid figure. Just because a stickman I draw with my pencil is black does not mean that it represents a black person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:13:46 No.110125442 Report

Quoted By: >>110125515

>>110125324
Magic was always a metaphor for gem tech. The tone of S1 is fairytale and naive as fuck since Steven is a wee bab and doesn't understand what the gems really are. It's only from S2 where things become more grounded and less fantastical when he starts to realize the truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:14:11 No.110125448 Report

Quoted By: >>110125482 >>110125561 >>110125654

>>110124707
>>110125212
Yeah, but that doesn't explain the suit. No one in the show has worn a similar suit, and we know that Pearl met pink with her factory appearance.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:15:10 No.110125466 Report

Quoted By: >>110126596

>>110125208
This slut (pic related):

>>110125222
We see in the episode they go to the moon that the Sea Spire is part of the original plan for Earth. Whether it's originally designed by the other diamonds, or PD/RQ isn't mentioned. It's my guess that other gems (not unlike Peri) designed the plans for Earth. It could have been RQ prior to the war redesigning the spire and other areas which is why we see fusion like gems represented in statues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:15:16 No.110125471 Report

Quoted By: >>110125902

>>110125409
I always reckoned that the temple was a human creation, likely carved by some american natives worshipping the gems in distant pre-colonial times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:15:23 No.110125478 Report

Quoted By: >>110125565

>>110125409
Could have been that Obsidian WAS formed in the war, just through the main trio forming with some other Amethyst/other Quartz at any point.

Otherwise, who knows, could just be a thing that was in the concept stages before they figured everything out in the plot and it just made it into the actual show anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:15:34 No.110125482 Report

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>>110125448
but we also know that gems often use items to help them interface with tech better

I could have sword this isn't the only suit we see in the show

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:17:06 No.110125506 Report

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>>110125409
There are other amethysts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:17:32 No.110125513 Report

Quoted By: >>110125572 >>110125614 >>110130319

>>110125387
>advantage
>fakes death leading to mass corruption of every gem on Earth sans a handful

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:17:41 No.110125515 Report

Quoted By: >>110125565 >>110125994

>>110125442
of course it was, but season 1 had time travel gizmos and infinite-resource-production wands, and cursed parchments - although as we later learned, the last one was apparently supposed to be a scroll painted with powdered gems.
Quite brutal to know that at this point, CGs aren't even trying to preserve it in a bubble, they just go "nope, this has no right to remain alive, to the lava with you"

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:19:35 No.110125561 Report

Quoted By: >>110125628 >>110128226

>>110125448
>No one in the show has worn a similar suit, and we know that Pearl met pink with her factory appearance.
Nephrites, the dedicated starfleet of gemkind, have them.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:19:46 No.110125565 Report

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>>110125478
Bismuth did state that "we could always use MORE Amethysts" implying that there were at least some in the rebellion.

>>110125515
CG's were pretty paranoid at that point in time. I would be too if my leader just turned into a baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:19:55 No.110125572 Report

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>>110125513
her goal was to get the other Diamonds to leave Earth alone. To that end, she succeeded. She couldn't have known the Diamonds would use Corrupting Light to try and wipe out the crystal gems on Earth

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:20:46 No.110125590 Report

Quoted By: >>110125650

It seemed to be implied that the gem culture that produced the ruins had mostly died in the wake of the rebellion. The culture portrayed by the ruins cares about art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:21:40 No.110125614 Report

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>>110125513
I mean given the circumstances it was a pretty reasonable power move from Roses' perspective, thinking that the diamonds would back off if they knew the CG's were capable of killing them seems reasonable enough.

Plus after Blue's whole 'as long as you're there, the colony will be completed' thing it makes sense to try, even if it was a last ditch effort thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:22:18 No.110125628 Report

Quoted By: >>110125705 >>110125799

>>110125561
Where did you get that lore? Not doubting, just curious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:23:15 No.110125650 Report

Quoted By: >>110128434

>>110125590
Lapis says in season 1 that Homeworld isn't anything like she recognised 5000 years ago. Maybe it went from lavish decadence to brutalist/minimalism? I dunno, I'm no artist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:23:22 No.110125654 Report

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>>110125448
Maybe it's the Era-1 equivalent to Limb Enhancers?
Appearance modifiers that aren't melded to Gem bodies

I don't think we've seen many Era-2 gems in general, but Peridot can't seem to do the "summon and change clothing" thing that the other Crystal Gems do sporadically

So Pink Diamond had her Pearl sometimes act as her pilot, and the reason we haven't seen other gems wear flight suits like that is because the only other Era-1 pilots we've seen are the Nephrites, and they are created to act as pilots so they don't require appearance modifiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:25:42 No.110125705 Report

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>>110125628
Centi told Steven that she was Captain of her ship

Bismuth and Pearl reminisced about how Pearl attacked a Gem dropship and took a Nephrite by surprise

In Stevonnie's dream of Pink Diamond's memories, Yellow Diamond was on a call with a Nephrite pilot

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:26:25 No.110125719 Report

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>>110125063
The four-armed statue(s) may not be meant to be taken literally. The backdrop has cribbed a lot of visual cues from a very shallow, 70s New Age understanding of Hindu and Buddhist iconography. I remember there was a webm of a working draft of Opal's first reveal, where she would form a svastika with her four arms before drawing her bow (an idea that was dropped for obvious reasons). Anyway what I'm trying to get at is that the multi-armed statues may be representational and not literal depictions. Maybe each of the four arms represents one of the diamonds? I mean to their gem subjects they're basically living gods. Granted, Occam's razor points to just bad storytelling, but it's not totally reaching to assume that Homeworld may have fusion-like statutes up for veneration and admiration in whatever their equivalent of religion and culture is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:26:58 No.110125735 Report

Quoted By: >>110125905 >>110125958 >>110137165 >>110145480 >>110146824

>>110123638
It made the same mistake Overwatch did, which was turning blatantly magical shit into "It's only magic because we can't understand it bro! It's actually science!"

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:27:11 No.110125740 Report

Quoted By: >>110125879 >>110126519

Truly, who would've thought it would all lead to Rose Quartz being a massive cunt who manipuated her closest friends, got countless of her own kind killed over a civil war she orchestrated, militarized her to the point of stitching together corpses to form a planet killing super weapon, and fucked some loser in a failing band which eventually end up killing her because she was curious.

Who would've thought.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:29:49 No.110125799 Report

Quoted By: >>110126011 >>110127609 >>110129559

>>110125628
Centipeetle wears this uniform when un-corrupted. She's confirmed nephrite. Yellow Diamond/Priyanka in Stevonnie's dream talks to a nephrite about the invasion efforts.
We know that Centi and her crew of other nephrites came to earth in colony ships, and that Hessonite (the villain of Save the Light, the only canon SU game thus far, as it was written by Becky) commanded nephrites (She also appears in Centi's drawings)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:33:04 No.110125879 Report

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>>110125740
> militarized her to the point of stitching together corpses to form a planet killing super weapon

Do you mean Homeworld? They were already pretty militarised in the flashbacks we've seen.

Also I don't know if its really fair to blame Rose for the Cluster/Gem experiments, the Diamonds got that idea from their use of fusion but it was still the Diamonds themselves that turned what was meant to be a partnership with consent into abomination nightmare experiments on their enemies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:33:53 No.110125902 Report

Quoted By: >>110125931 >>110126003 >>110126021

>>110125471
Thats the thing the temple doesn't make sense by any headcanon.
>If the gems made it, then they wouldn't have let it crumble to ruins.
>The humans couldn't have done it since they tried to keep the humans away with warning, fences and Amethyst as a crocodile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:33:56 No.110125905 Report

Quoted By: >>110137369

>>110125735
I don't know or care what Overwatch did, but SU was gem tech from the very beginning. It didn't just randomly become something else as the seasons changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:34:59 No.110125931 Report

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>>110125902
The gems can't stop time/buildings without a builder. No Bismuth, no upkeep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:36:21 No.110125958 Report

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>>110125735
When did OW have magic? They should have just done fantasy from the start but it always looked like it was a shitty "science to explain the game mechanics" for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:37:26 No.110125985 Report

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My theory is that modern human culture was seeded by early influence from gems. I know it is probably meant to be ignored, but I like stories that at least attempt to explain the similarity between humans and aliens. I would be even more satisfied if gems were originally created by ancient humans or vice versa (or even the overplayed 3rd progenitor race trope), but there’s no way in a million years SU is going there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:37:56 No.110125994 Report

Quoted By: >>110126109 >>110134907 >>110135701

>>110125515
>season 1 had time travel gizmos
This reminds me. Why did no one use that to save Pink?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:38:10 No.110126003 Report

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>>110125902
Maybe the CGs did make it, but we know that the corrupted gems are attracted to them and the temple

So the arms and sword all got destroyed in various battles against gem monsters, and the CGs just couldn't fix it

And they didn't mind since as long as the interior of the Temple is intact then the outside appearance doesn't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:38:38 No.110126011 Report

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>>110125799
Ah right, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:39:05 No.110126021 Report

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>>110125902
>The humans couldn't have done it since they tried to keep the humans away with warning, fences and Amethyst as a crocodile.
we know that the cgs have been trying to do this within the last 50 years of so. We don't know when they started. Maybe they only became wary of humans after the temple?

We know that Rose used to mingle with many humans before, and they intervened to save Dewey's crew, so they were clearly not complete isolationists. There is a lot of history still unknown.
Maybe some ancient cult built the temple, and cs decided to isolate themselves specifically because they didn't want to be worshiped.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:39:12 No.110126026 Report

Quoted By: >>110126064

>>110122349
I think essentially Rose was always intended to be Pink Diamond, but that's about the only thing that was set in stone. Stuff like Lars of the Stars was planned early on but given how unimportant it ended up being it's the kind of thing that could have fallen by the wayside if the couldn't make it work. I'm fairly certain I remember hearing something about them having to work out Amethyst's backstory just for On the Run, so that would mean they spent a majority of season 1 without that in mind. It'd explain a few of those early inconsistencies like Pearl saying she enjoys pie only to not be willing to eat in Fusion Cuisine.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:41:00 No.110126064 Report

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>>110126026
The list being picked up by Aquamarine and Topaz wasn't planned either, but honestly that shit hit pretty well in spite of that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:41:01 No.110126065 Report

Quoted By: >>110126147

>>110119355
My biggest gripe is how obvious are the show efforts to go back to status quo as soon as possible.
>Peridot becomes a member of the gang?
She stays in the barn far away from anyone else
>Malachite is loose in the ocean
Only shows up at the end of one episode and then gets defeated the next.
>The cluster is a big deal
They solve it in one episode
>Steven is stranded in homeworld with Lars and a bunch of new characters
Deus ex crying makes Lars a convenient teleporter back to earth.

It wouldn't be that bad if they keep the plot thread self contain but the show constantly presented new dangers and challenges and then went back to slice of life while the thread got unresolved for many episodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:42:56 No.110126109 Report

Quoted By: >>110126273 >>110126301

>>110125994
Maybe no one had one at the time of the battle? Or on the earth at all? So by the time they could get one there it'd be too late since they wouldn't be able to go back that far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:44:37 No.110126147 Report

Quoted By: >>110126242

>>110126065
The only reason this doesn't bother me is because the Diamonds don't consider Earth a threat and basically ignore it. Anything else and it'd be a bit much, but denying Steven the chance to live his life normally would be supremely petty as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:47:50 No.110126242 Report

Quoted By: >>110126289

>>110126147
I mean it terms of sheer military power it ISN'T a threat, and if the Diamonds had left it alone nothing would have really happened either way.

It was only because of Homeworld constantly coming and going that Steven started influencing them and eventually going to their world.

> denying Steven the chance to live his life normally would be supremely petty as is.

I mean at the time when they thought he was Rose Quartz or even just a CG it makes sense they'd be that petty since it was 'their fault' PD died.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:49:35 No.110126273 Report

Quoted By: >>110126328

>>110126109
After Pink's shattering the Diamonds launched their attack. I highly doubt the remaining gems would have been able to create the artefact and then hide it from themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:50:38 No.110126289 Report

Quoted By: >>110126539

>>110126242
I just mean in a meta sense, since it's a coming of age story written for kids. I understand where the frustrations of the pacing are coming from but some older fans never really got that it's being written in a stop/start way to prevent kids heads from overheating. That's what I got from the artbook anyway/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:51:04 No.110126301 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126109
Maybe if follows the rules where the gizmo can only transport you to a point in time after it was created.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:51:07 No.110126302 Report

Quoted By: >>110126365 >>110126479 >>110126496

So why did White take Pink Pearl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:52:33 No.110126328 Report

Quoted By: >>110126431

>>110126273
What do you mean? I'm not talking about who created it or whatever, they probably already existed, but it could be that there wasn't one close enough to the battle to be usable within the frame of time that they can rewind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:54:41 No.110126365 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126302
Could just be that she kept it so she could show it to pink/the other diamonds as 'this is what I'll do to your things if you don't do what I say' kind of message.

As it is, I guess Diamond doesn't really care what Pearl she uses since she's powerful/bright enough on her own that she doesn't need a pretty perfect trinket to serve her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 03:58:14 No.110126431 Report

Quoted By: >>110126569

>>110126328
I don't think that was ever shown to be a factor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:00:58 No.110126479 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126302
Depends on how did Pink Pearl get her eye all fucked up, White probably took her since she was damaged and gave Pink her Pearl as a replacement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:01:42 No.110126496 Report

Quoted By: >>110148020 >>110148207

>>110126302
We might be finding that out in S6. I can't find the interview, but Rebecca was talking about there being hints in the movie about stuff like Pearl and so on. Her song implies she's been rebooted three times and the third one is in the movie.

>1 - White (Base)
>2 - Rebooted (for Pink)
>3 - Movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:02:54 No.110126519 Report

Quoted By: >>110126594 >>110126881

>>110125740
There's a deleted scene in the Log Date episode where Amythest teaches Peridot how to eat food, it is implied she's whispering how the disgestive system works, and how to form one in your gem body.

So Rose formed herself some cooter business so Greg could put his failing band into her.

The question we all have to ask is...

How was it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:03:41 No.110126539 Report

Quoted By: >>110126556 >>110127391

>>110126289
> it's being written in a stop/start way to prevent kids heads from overheating
I always hated this argument. Kids might not have developed good taste yet but they aren't stupid. They play video games and binge watch overhyped youtubers all the time; the only kids that are going to overheat from an above average pace are literal 2 year olds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:04:59 No.110126556 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126539
Like it or not, that is how kids stuff is written. Even our shows back in the day were like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:05:27 No.110126569 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126431
Just as things are, we don't know the full power of the hourglass or if it could even be used that way without making a paradox or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:06:35 No.110126594 Report

Quoted By: >>110126685

>>110126519
Probably pretty good if Rose could tailor her junk to perfectly fit Gregs junk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:06:47 No.110126596 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125466
oh, you mean egg

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:09:26 No.110126644 Report

Quoted By: >>110130768 >>110130828 >>110131756

>>110118847
>Apparently, this never happened
>yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:09:26 No.110126645 Report

Quoted By:

>>110123407

The fact that she literally had two gems instead of one?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:11:26 No.110126685 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126594
But they're hard light constructs yeah? Like on the holodeck in star trek?

So you could say she was putting the light in fleshlight.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:20:17 No.110126881 Report

Quoted By: >>110126991 >>110127312 >>110129029

>>110126519
I wonder how it is for the gem, they have sensation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:25:25 No.110126991 Report

Quoted By: >>110129029

>>110126881
I mean we already know that they can feel pain when their light constructs are hit, meaning they've got SOMETHING like nerves, so they can probably create the right parts to make it feel good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:44:39 No.110127302 Report

Quoted By: >>110131765 >>110137322

>>110118996
This seems a little unhinged. Maybe do something else with your time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:45:08 No.110127312 Report

Quoted By: >>110127513

>>110126881
I don't understand this picture

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:50:02 No.110127391 Report

Quoted By: >>110139979

>>110126539
What kids show do you have in mind that doesn't have ANY content that can be explained away as "for kids."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 04:56:46 No.110127513 Report

Quoted By: >>110131566

>>110127312
It's Opal!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:02:47 No.110127609 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125799
Nephrites aren't the only gem pilots though

The Rubies piloted their own Roaming Eye
Peridot piloted her Hand ship
Aquamarine was piloting her ship while Topaz fixed the engines
Emerald had the Destiny Destroyer and the Sun Incincerator
And Hessonite had a ship of her own

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 05:47:54 No.110128226 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125561
nephrite are ugly and pointless. every gem can be a pilot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 06:04:55 No.110128434 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125650
keep in mind there are ruined statues laying beneath the foundations of contemporary homeworld (seen when steven and lars are escaping and get saved by the off-colors) but also above the massive cored-out kindergardens.
I suppose an "Era 0," prior to Era 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 07:07:11 No.110129029 Report

Quoted By: >>110129080

>>110126991
>>110126881
Amy likes eating, and implies she likes shitting too, so it has to feel like something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 07:13:19 No.110129080 Report

Quoted By: >>110130236

>>110129029
The funny thing is, from how she and Pearl talk about eating i don't think they taste anything. They just feel a bunch of mush in their body. It'd be like if you crushed up some wet food in your hands and spit it out your shoulders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 08:09:28 No.110129559 Report

Quoted By: >>110130236 >>110135022

>>110125799
is save the light worth the time it takes to play it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:36:03 No.110130236 Report

Quoted By: >>110131544

>>110129559
watch a longplay...
or a speedrun.

decide for yourself.

>>110129080
>They just feel a bunch of mush in their body.
Gems don't get sick from disease either. The food poisoning Amethyst experiences is probably just an imitation... Or just like Pearl, she's reached her threshold for "consumed" matter and her body reacts by ejecting it instead of destabilizing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:45:12 No.110130304 Report

Quoted By:

>>110118847
Well yeah, it was Pearl. Everyone thought she shattered Pink diamond though, both on Homeworld and on the Crystal Gems side. That structure and mural could have been made by either of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:48:30 No.110130319 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125513
Earth being a safe haven for gem outcasts was always a secondary goal for Rose. Her first and primary goal was to protect the existing organic life on Earth. For most intents, she won. People like Bismuth said Rose lost, because she was attached to the idea of a total change in Gem society.

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:49:14 No.110130323 Report

Quoted By: >>110133165 >>110140033

Magic Gem stuff was kindo and displayed a level of technology far beyond pedestrian Homeworld shit like new and exiting ways to ruin planets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 09:50:10 No.110130333 Report

Quoted By:

>stop being evil!
>NO!
>come on.
>No...
>come on.
>ehh... okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 10:14:55 No.110130456 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125063

>but there were other amethysts

You'd think something as important as 'we replaced our other amethyst friend who got corrupted by you' would come up in some way or another but that just wasn't the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 10:42:46 No.110130649 Report

Quoted By:

>>110118869
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 10:47:20 No.110130689 Report

Quoted By:

WHAT WE REALLY ARE

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 10:57:09 No.110130768 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126644

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 10:59:15 No.110130790 Report

Quoted By:

>>110123346
I like this

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 11:03:07 No.110130828 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126644
>Gyaru Amethyst and Jasper

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 11:05:30 No.110130848 Report

Quoted By: >>110135721

>>110125063
I think the Sea Spire was built by the Crystal Gems early in the war. That also explains why Pearl is so fond of it.

>What I don't get is what the fuck is Lion's mane?
A result of a gem's magical powers. Gems have magical powers. Having magical powers doesn't stop them from also having technology, or having magic-based technology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 11:49:39 No.110131242 Report

Quoted By:

When Lapis calls back from Homeworld, she's freaked out, claims everything is super advanced and she can't understand it. Bismuth mentions building "spires and temples for gem elites to enjoy". So this is all fancy but I'd assume standard pre-loss of PD stuff for the upper crust.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 11:51:29 No.110131266 Report

Quoted By: >>110131417 >>110131452 >>110133072

>>110118847
>rewatching the series
>get to gemcation
>ronaldo gets brought up a lot
>pearl is weirdly afraid of a snake

Like she is TERRIFIED of it. She even says it couldn't hurt her but it was the "surprise" of it that got to her, which is super weird actually.

I didn't think much about this when I first watched it, but now all I can think is this might be foreshadowing for sneeple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:04:34 No.110131417 Report

Quoted By: >>110131438 >>110131439 >>110131452

>>110131266
Peridot is afraid of thunder, could be gems are just born with phobias like humans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:06:27 No.110131438 Report

Quoted By: >>110131495

>>110131417
Peridot was afraid of thunder because she thought it was the cluster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:06:38 No.110131439 Report

Quoted By: >>110131495

>>110131417
Peridot was afraid because she thought it was the cluster emerging to shatter them all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:07:32 No.110131452 Report

Quoted By: >>110131495 >>110131510 >>110131513 >>110141479

>>110131266
What's weirder is Amy and Pearl both treated it similar to a human? Like I get Amy being dumb with him, she's kinda dumb. But then Pearl called the snake party guy. And apparently this fucking shot in Bismith was foreshadowing to PD's reveal, so at this point even I buy it. And I hate these vague theory crafting shit. But this is the kind of stuff SU does.

>>110131417
Peri was afraid of the thunder because she thought it was The Cluster emerging. I think "loud thunderous noise that could even rumble buildings if close enough" is different from "being afraid of a party guy"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:10:40 No.110131495 Report

Quoted By:

>>110131452
>>110131439
>>110131438
Still entirely possible for Peri to be afraid of thunder even though the cluster is bubbled, something like that doesnt just go away over night.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:11:47 No.110131510 Report

Quoted By: >>110131550

>>110131452
How does that foreshadow the pink diamond reveal? their just fucking poker cards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:11:57 No.110131513 Report

Quoted By: >>110131550

>>110131452
>And apparently this fucking shot in Bismith was foreshadowing to PD's reveal
I highly doubt it was. Fans are overinterpreting everything, as usual. Unless you have a citation from a podcast or something, with Becky explaining HOW it's foreshadowing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:12:05 No.110131514 Report

Quoted By:

>>110124522
evangelion reference tee-hee

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:14:36 No.110131544 Report

Quoted By:

>>110130236
I imagine that if you eat literal garbage - like amethyst does - it will just rot in your holo-guts producing flammable, noxious gases, foaming up, growing mold, etc. which would appear like sickness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:14:50 No.110131550 Report

Quoted By: >>110131718

>>110131510
>>110131513
I don't fucking get it man, all I know is at the start of this video on the official CN youtube channel they linger and zoom in on Bismith's hand in the video specifically about PD clues.

https://youtu.be/L51bQLzuGos

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:16:14 No.110131566 Report

Quoted By:

>>110127513
Why??

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:31:52 No.110131718 Report

Quoted By: >>110131760

>>110131550
Heh, most of that video seems a bit random in my opinion. Like the "pink lion" scene.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:34:56 No.110131756 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126644
porn when

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:35:11 No.110131760 Report

Quoted By:

>>110131718
Okay I said "most" but I actually meant "some".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 12:36:19 No.110131765 Report

Quoted By:

>>110127302
Take your own advice faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 14:21:08 No.110133072 Report

Quoted By: >>110133113

>>110131266
In all seriousness, Sneeple would literally be the dumbest thing Steven Universe has ever done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 14:23:52 No.110133109 Report

Quoted By:

>>110118869
Watching clips of the show on YouTube is a more enjoyable experience. Been doing that for the last season and have been able to keep up 100% with all thread discussions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 14:24:11 No.110133113 Report

Quoted By: >>110133118 >>110134423 >>110134466 >>110137350

>>110133072
Did you SEE the diamond redemption?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 14:25:06 No.110133118 Report

Quoted By:

>>110133113
It would be even dumber than that.

Also, that was easier to watch the second time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 14:27:53 No.110133165 Report

Quoted By: >>110134466 >>110134530

>>110130323
Was all of this stuff on earth? Because if so it seems stupid they would build temples dedicated to past oppressors and even more dumb to build temples on planets that will be destroyed/banished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:29:53 No.110134339 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125409
I thought Mayor Dewey’s great great grandfather carved it after they got saved by them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:32:51 No.110134423 Report

Quoted By: >>110134561

>>110133113
The Diamonds were never redeemed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:35:07 No.110134466 Report

Quoted By:

>>110133113
Blue and Yellow were pretty good. White was dumb and rushed.

>>110133165
Yes, all of that is on Earth. During season 1 they can't leave Earth at all, not even by warping. In season 2 they show projects for some of them on the screen in the moon base.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:38:06 No.110134530 Report

Quoted By:

>>110133165
We don't know which of those structures were "dedicated to past oppressors", only a handful of them have explicit diamond imagery, and those might have been built BY homeworld gems.
The other structures might have been built by the rebels during the course of the rebellion. They weren't probably all expecting to just chill around in a forest after homeworld is driven away.

Some might have been built by homeworld gems, and then captured by rebels and turned into their bases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:39:14 No.110134561 Report

Quoted By: >>110134961

>>110134423
Their redemption is in process. Really the only gem who's ever been fully redeemed by Steven is Peridot. It'll probably take all of S6 for the Diamonds to properly be on the side of good beyond jsut doing what Steven asks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:40:19 No.110134594 Report

Quoted By: >>110134618 >>110135171

>>110118847
Why the fuck is a civilization literally tens of thousands of years ahead of humans still using archaic murals to depict historical events?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:41:29 No.110134618 Report

Quoted By:

>>110134594
Artistic expression

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:53:11 No.110134907 Report

Quoted By: >>110135395 >>110135701

>>110125994
My head canon is, Rose invented the time travel device after discovering time with the humans. The other diamonds have no concept of time since they don't age

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:55:51 No.110134961 Report

Quoted By: >>110135689

>>110134561
what could s6 plot be about? just fixing things?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 15:58:05 No.110135022 Report

Quoted By:

>>110129559
It's for living out the fantasy of walking around Beach City and raining arrows with Opal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:03:08 No.110135171 Report

Quoted By:

>>110134594
Two possible explanations I can come up with in literally seconds.

1. It's so if their shit stops working they can leave behind some explanation of what happened.

2. It's symbolic an mysterious for the audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:09:31 No.110135395 Report

Quoted By: >>110135701

>>110134907
>Rose invented the time travel device
This is also my headcanon. The other diamonds clearly don't know about it and the Earth belonged to her, so she has to be the one who created it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:18:35 No.110135689 Report

Quoted By:

>>110134961
Basically. Filling out stuff that needs to be addressed, Jasper etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:18:59 No.110135701 Report

Quoted By: >>110135811

>>110135395
>>110134907
>>110125994
Do we know whether it had any actual time-travel powers? I mean, by the end of the episode, the parallel timelines were erased, and Steven everything went back to the beginning. Maybe it's not as much a time travel device, as some sort of introspection-planning-hypothesizing tool that lets you re-live a moment in time inside your head (gem) until you figure out the solution to a problem or learn some lesson.

Similarly, the Infinite Guys all disappeared after the creation wand was destroyed, which suggests that they were all illusory. They were likely made from the same type of matter as gem bodies are - physical in appearance, but ultimately just projections.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:19:38 No.110135721 Report

Quoted By: >>110135823 >>110135906 >>110136091

>>110125063
>>110130848
lion's mane is like pearl's gem. she has a pocket dimension inside of her gem that allows her to put things in and take things out

lion's mane/lars' hair is exactly the same thing with two differences, it's remote from the gem and there are two entrances/exits. since it is a creation of PD's gem powers, it explains why only Steven can freely enter and exit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:22:35 No.110135811 Report

Quoted By:

>>110135701
I like that idea but I'm pretty sure canonically what Steven remembers from that time is that as soon as he touched it a bunch of Stevens appeared, fought each other, and then died.

The original died too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:22:52 No.110135823 Report

Quoted By: >>110135997 >>110136534

>>110135721
>only Steven can freely enter and exit
Peridot was inside Lion's mane once
Also that does not prove they don't have magical powers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:25:29 No.110135906 Report

Quoted By: >>110136091

>>110135721
This show implies an interconnectedness across space we won't understand, like there is a gem dimension behind space made of the light energy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:28:05 No.110135984 Report

Quoted By: >>110136091

>>110118847
oh hey, back when the writers actually had a clue of how to write before they let the fans write for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:28:09 No.110135985 Report

Quoted By: >>110136050

>>110118847
They never mentioned the mystic mural again, aside from that book episode obviously, I bet those are beta diamond designs.

By the way did Sugar or anyone of the crew even mention this thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:28:46 No.110135997 Report

Quoted By: >>110136068 >>110136091 >>110136097

>>110135823
>peridot was inside lion's mane once
i don't remember this happening, what ep?
but what I meant was that Steven is the one who can determine who exits and enters, similar to how gems can't enter pearl's pearl freely but she allowed Steven to enter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:29:50 No.110136028 Report

Quoted By: >>110136148

>>110118847
All this crappy shit on earth was Rose testing Steven and trying to make his life interesting, like putting a jacket in a chest

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:30:38 No.110136050 Report

Quoted By:

>>110135985
they did in a podcast, I think. It was back when they were still working out how they wanted the lore to play out. This mural isn't totally related to what they have planned now, was the gist of what they said, I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:31:19 No.110136068 Report

Quoted By:

>>110135997
i think it was the episode where they went to the moon, she rode inside his mane with steven.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:32:00 No.110136091 Report

Quoted By:

>>110135984
What are you even talking about? Zuke?

>>110135997
>i don't remember this happening, what ep?
It could've been great, when they go on the moon

>but what I meant was that Steven is the one who can determine who exits and enters, similar to how gems can't enter pearl's pearl freely but she allowed Steven to enter.
I don't know if that's the case, but maybe.

>>110135721
>>110135906
The same also happens in the temple. Garnet explains it like this in Beach Party
>We inhabit the inner sanctums, only accessible through magical extra dimensional doors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:32:06 No.110136097 Report

Quoted By:

>>110135997
It Could Have Been Great

When the CGs all rode Lion to get to the Moon base. Peridot and Steven were sticking their heads out of Lion's mane while the others rode on his back

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:33:46 No.110136148 Report

Quoted By:

>>110136028
Ah, you buy into that theory about the chest too huh. It makes sense. Chests are traditionally where people kept clothes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:40:14 No.110136333 Report

Quoted By: >>110136412 >>110136589 >>110136631 >>110136666

>>110118847
Because the show was in its infancy? They've changed a LOT over the seasons, including the Diamond's designs - You can really see it in this; all three (four) Diamonds are in this shot, including their old designs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:43:19 No.110136412 Report

Quoted By: >>110136666

>>110136333
>You can really see it in this; all three (four) Diamonds are in this shot, including their old designs.

what? Which one do you think is supposed to be Blue? Yellow, maybe, white, maybe, but none of them appears to be Blue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:47:20 No.110136534 Report

Quoted By:

>>110135823
Connie goes through Lars's head, but holding Steven's hand

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:49:45 No.110136584 Report

Quoted By:

>>110118847
So it's like mythological art that symbolize an event instead of reality.
Like Babel Tower is A Ziqqurat.
This was just a mystification made by stupid humans

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:49:49 No.110136589 Report

Quoted By:

>>110136333
How do you know those are supposed to be the diamonds?

We do know Blue and Pink's designs have changed after the moon base murals, but that's it. The Serious Steven murals could be diamonds, but we don't know afaik.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:51:21 No.110136631 Report

Quoted By: >>110136657

>>110136333
Taking in the new designs that looks a lot like an Emerald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:52:23 No.110136657 Report

Quoted By:

>>110136631
You know, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Emerald was specifically designed after those murals to explain them not being diamonds.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:52:39 No.110136666 Report

Quoted By: >>110136711 >>110145673

>>110136333
>>110118847
In contrast, look at the Moon base designs.
Literally all their designs changed from even these designs in their final revelations.
>>110136412
That's because the designs were just that drastically changed - Look closely at the hair the Diamond's had - One on the left had almost a Peridot style'd hair, middle is closer to classic white, and far right is pointy everywhere; definitely were the other three Diamonds, and it seems they were more triangular in their earlier designs - The Crew/Sugar probably wanted their designs to feel more unique according to each Diamond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 16:54:42 No.110136711 Report

Quoted By: >>110136933 >>110136986 >>110138809

>>110136666
Show me evidence that the characters in the pyramid mural are actually early diamonds, and not random gem generals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:01:51 No.110136869 Report

Quoted By: >>110137272

>>110122756
Is that a Zero Suit Samus reference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:04:20 No.110136933 Report

Quoted By: >>110136988

>>110136711
What is the minimum standard of evidence that you will accept?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:06:35 No.110136986 Report

Quoted By: >>110137114

>>110136711
Well, I'm not part of the Crew, otherwise I'd love to pull/leak earlier designs/story.
However, it's not exactly far-fetched when you go off behind the scenes peaks/specials they've had over the years, such as
>>110124994 or look into Sugar's early character designs for SU.
I'm not able to get one-hundred percent certainty, as I'm not Sugar - However, if going off of other series' gives any indication as to how these sort of things develop, or drastically change mid-production, then it's likely the case. (Hell, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sugar took the idea of Rose=Pink because she had no fucking clue where to take the series; I mean, people were saying Rose=Pink since S1 - Plenty of time to reflect on her story at that point).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:06:38 No.110136988 Report

Quoted By: >>110137059

>>110136933
Anything from an official source.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:09:10 No.110137059 Report

Quoted By: >>110137114 >>110137142 >>110138809

>>110136988
So you're positioned yourself so that the only evidence you will accept is from the last people on Earth who would ever cop to the hasty, mismanaged production schedule of their own show.

Clever, but not so clever that its not obvious you have no interest in an actual discussion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:11:40 No.110137114 Report

Quoted By: >>110137351 >>110137514 >>110138483

>>110136986
>I mean, people were saying Rose=Pink since S1
Reminder that this theory was baseless before season 5 and was abandoned by almost everyone when season 3 said she was shattered.

>if Sugar took the idea of Rose=Pink because she had no fucking clue where to take the series
There's several hints that can only be understood if you know how the story develops, and some plot points (like Bismuth) that wouldn't make sense if she wasn't Pink. Rose being Pink is also the first thing the storyboarders read on their first day of work on the show.

>>110137059
>who would ever cop to the hasty, mismanaged production schedule of their own show
Why wouldn't they say it if that was the case? They have explained multiple times before that they wanted to do things differently at some points. Like how they wanted Lars to become pink in the second episode, or Greg losing a leg because of Lapis and other abandoned ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:13:00 No.110137142 Report

Quoted By: >>110144617

>>110137059
Oh, and they HAVE said that the moon base designs were early and eventually altered, especially Pink. This is official information by the crew. They would have no reason not to say that the murals in Serious Steven depict old Diamond designs if that was the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:14:05 No.110137165 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125735
I don't remember magic being in OW, besides magic is stooopid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:18:02 No.110137255 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125210
The barn doesn't even exist anymore.

>>110123638
>After season two nearly all of the cool magical shit randomly disappears and it is entirely gone by season four.
Yeah we've never seen any gem or magic powers or items in seasons 4 and 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:18:42 No.110137272 Report

Quoted By:

>>110136869
And the fact Samus is making up for everything the Chozo did

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:19:46 No.110137293 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125210
The barn is on the beach, neighbors with Steven

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:21:08 No.110137322 Report

Quoted By:

>>110127302
I watched it for four and a quarter seasons before I started disliking it so I might as well stick around for a bit longer for good blips like most of the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:22:15 No.110137350 Report

Quoted By:

>>110133113
It would be way dumber and that was pretty fucking dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:22:17 No.110137351 Report

Quoted By: >>110137516

>>110137114
There's also plot points that make no sense because she WAS Pink - one being the giant, intergalactic-traveling legs she had conveniently forgotten about, which would've contradicted the whole point of Peridots' appearance, or them being atuck on Earth due to warp-pads being destroyed, by extension. Bismuth is also a newer concept, a character they've only recently added - naturally with Bismuth's appearance, and Rose=Pink revelation being so close, they'd want to try to keep it sensible; at the time, at least.
Also, I recall everyone on this board calling absolute bullshit when they claimed Pink was shattered - Movies/shows have done the whole 'the hero was the ___ the whole time!' trope so many times it's beyond predictable, and SU is no exception.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:22:59 No.110137369 Report

Quoted By: >>110137516

>>110125905
The gems only told Steven it was magic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:29:18 No.110137514 Report

Quoted By:

>>110137114
>Lars would have been pink right away
>we would have seen what life was like with that physiological
Also explains how Steven controlled him that time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 17:29:19 No.110137516 Report

Quoted By:

>>110137351
>would've contradicted the whole point of Peridots' appearance
How? Peridot was there to check on the Cluster so that the planet would be destroyed.

>being atuck on Earth due to warp-pads being destroyed
So? Clearly Rose didn't want anyone to have anything to do with homeworld, of course she didn't tell anyone. It's one of her many lies.

>Bismuth is also a newer concept
And? Also her gem appears since season 1.

>at the time, at least
What?

>I recall everyone on this board calling absolute bullshit when they claimed Pink was shattered
I'd appreciate if you showed them to me.

Most of your post is "this arbitrarily chosen thing is contradicted by the reveal" without actually explaining how it's contradicted.

>>110137369
They've also told other people. Nobody ever denied it being magic, either. Official episode synopsis offer an objective point of view and still use the term magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:10:01 No.110138483 Report

Quoted By: >>110138582

>>110137114
>Reminder that this theory was baseless before season 5
100% absolutely correct, people who believed it prior to season 5 were autistic fanfic writers, on par with people who thought Connie was blue diamond.
>was abandoned by almost everyone when season 3 said she was shattered.
False, I know many people who stuck by it, despite the show telling us the contrary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:14:25 No.110138582 Report

Quoted By: >>110138613 >>110138870

>>110138483
>False, I know many people who stuck by it, despite the show telling us the contrary.
Can you show them to me? I'd like to see them. Between late season 3 and the reveal in season 5, I everyone laughing at the theory. I only saw people starting to consider it again right after The Trial, and it was still unpopular. I saw it becoming popular again only after Your Mother and Mine, and extremely popular a couple days before the reveal episode because of a website leaking some details. If you have some links to prove me wrong I would like to see them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:16:08 No.110138613 Report

Quoted By:

>>110138582
Okay maybe "extremely" is a bit of an overexaggeration since not many knew about it, but those who did know were definitely at the very least considering it instead of laughing it off.
And I actually meant Jungle Moon, not Your mother and mine. Sorry for the confusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:23:39 No.110138809 Report

Quoted By:

>>110137059
Sorry, I ( >>110136711 ) was away, the response you got was from somebody else.
I do mostly agree, though. I want to hear any line of reasoning, based on the official material, that either indicates those characters were definitely diamonds, or disproves the idea of them being just random powerful gems.

Now, here is the deal: My personal belief is that they were originally meant to vaguely be diamonds, but the exact timeline of events was not remotely written when the episode was made, and so the staff could easily retcon them to being other gems with 0 detriment to the overall narrative. The artist was probably just told "draw a battle between rose and some big threatening looking gems". Those don't even qualify as "designs"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:25:45 No.110138870 Report

Quoted By: >>110138966

>>110138582
god, are you really going to make me search reddit aren't you?
Give me a few moments. I'm not gonna go in depth, but I'll get you at least one link.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:29:58 No.110138966 Report

Quoted By: >>110139747

>>110138870
Thank you, but sorry if it's a problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:36:55 No.110139181 Report

Quoted By: >>110141571

i think you guys shit on this show's late-series plot too much, i don't see that many inconsistencies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 18:57:28 No.110139747 Report

Quoted By: >>110139993 >>110140887 >>110142293

>>110138966
Freaking hell, as if to spite me, reddit's search engine is shittier than I imagine. I don't think I can sort by date properly, the site decides the order of posts on its fucking own based on bullshit.
I do concur that the amount of threads supportive of the theory made between the shattering being "revealed" and "the trial" is quite low, although for some reason reddit simply breaks down after 1y thread age and starts showing them completely out of any order, randomly skipping between threads 1 year old, 3 years old, 5 years old, 2 years old...

have a few links. They are not all explicitly supportive of the theory, but all covering it and discussing pros and cons, from the period before any real new foreshadowing was given
>reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/5oq9l2
>reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/6vpf21
>reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/4w7ua8
>reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/59f315
>reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/5mkd9a
>reddit.com/r/stevenuniverse/comments/54set8
I would like to bring your attention to this comment exchange:

>Seriously can we let this theory die already?
>Sadly, I think they won't let it go even if we see a flashback of the exact moment Rose shattered PD. Delusion is a complicated thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:08:19 No.110139979 Report

Quoted By:

>>110127391
Batman TAS, and Justice League Unlimited would be prime examples, though nothing will have zero content that handwaves stuff because of its audience, even stuff for adults. However those 2 provide the least amount of it and plenty of kids grew up watching it without having their brains fried.
Phineas and Ferb also never talks down to its audience even when it brings up subjects that its target demo would have no right knowing about. It still handwaves stuff but at least there's a sense of respect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:08:50 No.110139993 Report

Quoted By:

>>110139747
Thank you for the links, these will be interesting to read. That last quote is quite funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:09:02 No.110139997 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125063
My guess is Lion got injured and nearly died at some point but Rose brought him back. It's the same with Lars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:10:45 No.110140033 Report

Quoted By: >>110140311

>>110130323
fuck, alright, hear me out
Earth was originally Blue's colony, right? What if it was, like, her oldest and most successful colony? And Pink's little "rebellion" was completely idiotic and one-sided, on an otherwise peaceful world that co-existed with its organic inhabitants?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:12:10 No.110140062 Report

Quoted By: >>110140540

>>110118961
But who is the white figure? It can't be White Diamond?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:15:20 No.110140140 Report

Quoted By: >>110140332

>>110118847
Who would be left to make the carving after the war was over?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:19:16 No.110140211 Report

Quoted By:

>>110123638
Seems like the Gem empire was a lot more powerful a few million years ago than it is today. All their ancient technology was magic based and they had things like casual time travel, reality warping, and music based history erasing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:24:23 No.110140311 Report

Quoted By:

>>110140033
>Earth was originally Blue's colony, right?
No, it was Pink. Blue came to help her during the rebellion.

Your theory could still work. But I don't think there's any evidence for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:25:27 No.110140332 Report

Quoted By: >>110140601

>>110140140
who says it was made after the war

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:34:36 No.110140540 Report

Quoted By: >>110147652

>>110140062
Why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:37:10 No.110140601 Report

Quoted By: >>110140632

>>110140332
The war went on for hundreds of years

The other Crystal Gems could have built their own spires or captured Homeworld made structures. Created statues and murals to celebrate the history they were making

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:38:13 No.110140632 Report

Quoted By:

>>110140601
exactly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:44:54 No.110140808 Report

Quoted By: >>110140919

>>110125063
The Sea Spire was supposed to be a place of intellectual discussion, right?
What if fusions were originally meant to represent cooperation, agreement, instead of love? Like when two opposing viewpoints finally converge into one greater understanding

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:45:10 No.110140816 Report

Quoted By: >>110141550

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:48:02 No.110140887 Report

Quoted By: >>110143000

>>110139747
Funny how everyone was "analyzing" the theory but most didn't outright say they still believed it since everyone was joking about it or dismissing it. Regardless it's nice to see that some of the hints were getting picked up even at the time.
My only real problem with the whole situation is how some people now claim that it was extremely obvious and that the only reason they didn't believe the theory was that they thought it would have been "too obvious" when the actual reason is that the show had both hints and red herrings ("Pink was shattered" being the big red herring that made everyone disregard the theory).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 19:49:22 No.110140919 Report

Quoted By: >>110141966

>>110140808
Fusion doesn't represent love, that's just Garnet's thing. It represents relationships. Malachite wasn't love, for instance. You bring up an interesting point though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:12:57 No.110141479 Report

Quoted By: >>110141617

>>110131452
Gemcation is a Zuke episode. Stop trying to make sense of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:16:18 No.110141550 Report

Quoted By: >>110141774

>>110140816
you just made me remember pearl watches steven sleep

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:17:23 No.110141571 Report

Quoted By:

>>110139181
To be fair, a lot of stuff in this thread is more constructive than most. It's kind of interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:18:57 No.110141617 Report

Quoted By: >>110142718

>>110141479
Zuke episodes make sense though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:25:20 No.110141774 Report

Quoted By: >>110143814

>>110141550
people act like that's super creepy, but it's totally normal behaviour for a parent

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:33:54 No.110141966 Report

Quoted By:

>>110140919
Malachite was codependency

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:34:59 No.110141997 Report

Quoted By:

From what I’ve learned from this thread and Steven Universe in general, is to never judge a show by its first season.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 20:50:06 No.110142293 Report

Quoted By: >>110142683 >>110142688 >>110142718 >>110143191 >>110143520

>>110139747
It boggles my mind that people fought against it for so long. From season 1, Rose has healing, flight, shields, plant control, a teleporting lion, and the power to create intelligent self-sustaining slave races by accident. Later on we get astral projection and raising the dead. Meanwhile, Amethyst has a whip and a spin dash. It's clear from the very start that Rose wasn't just a rogue soldier, she was a rogue god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:07:45 No.110142683 Report

Quoted By:

>>110142293
Obviously the narrative was that regular gems could become like her. The real hint was how she didn't believe it herself (shown in season 3). There's also the fact that Amethyst was defective and way less powerful than a regular quartz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:07:59 No.110142688 Report

Quoted By: >>110142713

>>110142293
It is still stupid as shit because it destroyed every single character arc and concept, especially gems growing above their programmed roles. Pearl never stopping being a servant is the most egregious

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:09:18 No.110142713 Report

Quoted By: >>110142795 >>110142864

>>110142688
It didn't "destroy" them, it showed they were deluding themselves. The real character developments happened when they found out/accepted the truth about Rose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:09:32 No.110142718 Report

Quoted By: >>110142763 >>110142795 >>110142895

>>110141617
They did before Barn Mates. Most of them went a little nonsensical after that point outside of a few standouts.
>>110142293
Many people didn't want Steven to be just another chosen one. Him being the son of a fallen rebel leader was much more interesting than him being the son of a goddess with near limitless power and enough connections to instantly fix just about every problem in the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:11:31 No.110142763 Report

Quoted By:

>>110142718
>chosen one with near limitless power and enough connections to instantly fix just about every problem in the show
Well good thing that's not what happened then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:13:05 No.110142795 Report

Quoted By: >>110144361

>>110142713
This. The movie spells it all out pretty neatly.

>>110142718
He's a "chosen one" either way. Rose Quartz was revered on the same level of the Diamonds, that's the irony of the whole thing. Also it didn't solve anything just by him being Pink's son, certainly not with Spinel. It just caused more problems for him to solve

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:16:48 No.110142864 Report

Quoted By: >>110142906 >>110143086

>>110142713
>The real character developments happened when they found out/accepted the truth about Rose.
No time for that, we've got a gay wedding to plan!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:18:21 No.110142895 Report

Quoted By: >>110142931

>>110142718
>Many people didn't want Steven to be just another chosen one. Him being the son of a fallen rebel leader was much more interesting than him being the son of a goddess with near limitless power and enough connections to instantly fix just about every problem in the show.

This. I really liked the palpable despair of the first two seasons. Its really just three and a half gems trying to deal with the fallout of a war, dangerous weaponry lying everywhere, corrupted monsters stalking the ruined cities and the everpresent looming threat of the Empire coming back for seconds at any moment which is completely outside of your control and you have no way of resisting it for a second.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:19:13 No.110142906 Report

Quoted By: >>110143063 >>110143067

>>110142864
You plebs are ironically more of a faggot than the two gays who get married. You look at it and your brain just shuts down: "GAY WEDDING!!! IT'S THE ONLY THING" you struggle to shit out before hitting the post button. Who gives a shit about context? Just post it and let it stew. Others will clean up your shit for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:20:17 No.110142931 Report

Quoted By: >>110142979

>>110142895
>Palpable despair
This is nostalgia faggotry at its finest. They were the most sugary of all seasons and for good reason considering Steven was kept naive to everything around him. It's only in S4 onwards that the tone became more fatalistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:22:43 No.110142979 Report

Quoted By:

>>110142931
>he is too retarded to read subtext

okay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:23:56 No.110143000 Report

Quoted By: >>110143086

>>110140887
People where making assumptions that Rose was some kind of important Gem since before the Diamonds. Jasper name dropping Yellow only gave the fans a label where to put Rose.
If anything the shattering was a way to stir people away to that idea before proving them right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:26:36 No.110143063 Report

Quoted By:

>>110142906
The context was stupid.
It was never really implied that Rose was the foundation of their love even in the flashback episodes and the writers did an awful job of selling that idea when it came up post-PD. The wedding was completely pointless outside of brownie point shit when it could have been used to give us more of a personal look at Ruby and Sapphire as actual characters.
Also it helped fuck up Bismuth's return and was just a convenient place to throw in the Diamonds coming to earth for the rushed wrap-up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:26:47 No.110143067 Report

Quoted By: >>110143173

>>110142906
You know what it means, don't pretend you don't. In the crucial few episodes after the reveal they introduce and resolve relationship drama between Ruby and Sapphire, then consciously decide to focus on other issues instead on exploring the impact of the twist.

I wondered if I should put all that in the last post, but I assumed people in this thread had actually watched the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:27:43 No.110143086 Report

Quoted By: >>110143275

>>110142864
The whole point of the wedding was Garnet moving on from Rose's lies.

>>110143000
That doesn't change anything I said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:32:10 No.110143173 Report

Quoted By:

>>110143067
>In the crucial few episodes after the reveal they
First episode: Briefly show Garnet and Sapphire's immediate reactions, tell Rose's backstory, solve Pearl and Sapphire
Second episode: Explore Amethyst's and Steven's reactions
Third episode: Explore Greg's and Ruby's reactions, resolve Ruby
Fourth episode: Explore and resolve Bismuth's reaction
Fifth episode: Ruby and Sapphire's reunion, Yellow and Blue's immediate reaction

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:33:07 No.110143191 Report

Quoted By: >>110143214 >>110145628

>>110142293
Lapis can literally control ALL THE OCEANS ON THE PLANET while her gem is cracked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:34:22 No.110143214 Report

Quoted By: >>110144199

>>110143191
Obviously that's because Lapis can fuse with another powerful gem to make Blue Diamond. That's what she meant by "did you even wonder who I was?", she meant she used to be part of Blue Diamond. But then she was separated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:37:17 No.110143275 Report

Quoted By: >>110143328 >>110143753

>>110143086
I agree with you, but the thing that indicated the idea of Rose shattering Pink only came about after they introduced Pink and the Shattering event.

All the previous mentions and background details indicated that Rose was a Diamond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:39:01 No.110143328 Report

Quoted By: >>110143753

>>110143275
>indicated that Rose was a Diamond
They didn't. There were some hints that had to be interpreted, but that was it. Otherwise, she was just a very powerful gem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:45:12 No.110143520 Report

Quoted By: >>110143593

>>110142293
not only that but when they first meet lion they instantly know it to be roses simply because of the color pink. everyone already knew rose was pink since we saw Connie training also Connie=cunny

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:48:05 No.110143589 Report

Quoted By: >>110143624 >>110143751 >>110143838

>>110118869
>>110118996
jesus christ what the fuck were you expecting this show to be?

were you really expecting the savior of animation with an 11 minute runtime and negligent schedule

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:48:13 No.110143593 Report

Quoted By:

>>110143520
>not only that but when they first meet lion they instantly know it to be roses
because he's magical and he recognizes steven and follows him
and a few episodes later he brings him to rose's place

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:49:19 No.110143624 Report

Quoted By: >>110144979

>>110143589
>11 minute shows can't be good
Steven Universe itself proves you wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:54:40 No.110143751 Report

Quoted By:

>>110143589
>were you really expecting the savior of animation with an 11 minute runtime and negligent schedule

It worked for Xavier renegade angel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:54:46 No.110143753 Report

Quoted By:

>>110143275
>>110143328
To clarify: what I mean by this is that there was no way to actually catch the hints during season 1 or even 2. It was a baseless theory at the time. Of course nobody knew about the shattering when Yellow was first introduced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:56:41 No.110143814 Report

Quoted By:

>>110141774
>but it's totally normal behaviour for a parent
Pearl is not a parent she's like a weird aunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 21:57:32 No.110143838 Report

Quoted By:

>>110143589
It worked for like two seasons.
I just wanted more of that kind of thing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:06:03 No.110144027 Report

Quoted By:

>>110124994
>>110122548
>They had White Diamond in their captivity the entire time
>The dirty secret of Rose's rebellion and the reason the Earth hasn't been wiped out is because before the war ended she kidnapped White in secret and trapped her on Earth
>Blue and Yellow are left to manage the Authority themselves but are clueless how without their domineering "mother" who ran everything perfectly before, and the Authority becomes fractured, violent and oppressive through force as opposed to White's more subtle cult of personality
Fuck I think we're in the wrong timeline bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:13:19 No.110144199 Report

Quoted By: >>110144371

>>110143214
Obviously, that's the only sane theory. Anybody who thinks otherwise simply can't read between the lines.
I don't think I have to even explain that the other gem she fuses with to form blue diamond is Connie's mom

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:16:02 No.110144271 Report

Quoted By:

>>110118847
I dunno. I’m seeing a screen cap of it in your post.

Ohhhh, you meant the mural that’s a figurative depiction of the war between Homeworld and The Crystal Gems.

I’m pretty sure the mural happened. I mean they’re looking at it right there. So somebody made it.

Oh, you meant the war? No, I think it happened too, but just not literally as depicted because murals, y’know, simplify stuff using iconography so even retards can understand them.

Well, most retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:20:18 No.110144361 Report

Quoted By: >>110144395

>>110142795
Anon, the problem in the show was solved because he was Pink's son. Granted, the problem arose because of Pink herself, but the point stands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:20:52 No.110144371 Report

Quoted By:

>>110144199
Well of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:22:14 No.110144395 Report

Quoted By: >>110144421

>>110144361
>solved because he was Pink's son
No it wasn't. the diamonds expected him to do diamond stuff and be pink, the conflict was resolved because of what he said, not because of his heritage. his heritage only allowed him to actually talk to them, but that alone wouldn't have been enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:23:27 No.110144421 Report

Quoted By:

>>110144395
>his heritage only allowed him to actually talk to them
Right, just the most important part.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:32:36 No.110144617 Report

Quoted By: >>110144757

>>110137142
Post a link

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:38:21 No.110144757 Report

Quoted By:

>>110144617
https://joethejohnston.tumblr.com/post/173776256458/why-does-pinks-physical-form-not-match-her-mural

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 22:48:34 No.110144979 Report

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>>110143624
But it isn't good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:00:48 No.110145245 Report

Quoted By: >>110145580 >>110145759 >>110146153

>>110118847
does anyone else have more fun watching individual clips of the show instead of the actual episodes? I've been binge watching a Shit-ton of them recently and having a blast.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:07:01 No.110145365 Report

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>>110118847
It's just a mural. You aren't supposed to take it literally.

In the context of the show, that's our first hint at White Diamond. As far as I'm concerned tats already a HUGE look ahead considering it was season 1

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:10:47 No.110145455 Report

Quoted By: >>110145825 >>110145872

>>110122349
In the artbook and various interviews Rebecca claims that the vast majority of stuff, specifically the plotwists, were planned from the beginning
>Steven having his gem removed
>Lars dying
>Pink diamond twist
>Lions origin
>Corruption being solved
All from the pilot era of the shows production

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:11:56 No.110145480 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125735
But that's cool though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:15:38 No.110145580 Report

Quoted By: >>110145603

>>110145245
After watching it all at least once, sure.

I can't imagine it replacing actually watching the show though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:16:36 No.110145603 Report

Quoted By:

>>110145580
yeah, sure you got to watch the episode at least once but after that i mostly watch the clips.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:18:03 No.110145628 Report

Quoted By:

>>110143191
Was there any evidence that she actually controlled ALL of the oceans on the planet? I think the pillar would have been a lot higher if that were true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:20:07 No.110145673 Report

Quoted By:

>>110136666
Blue and Pink don't even look like that anyways, lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:24:02 No.110145759 Report

Quoted By: >>110146076 >>110146153

>>110145245
Pole is my favorite gam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:27:33 No.110145825 Report

Quoted By: >>110145939

>>110145455
hey listen that point is a great point or whatever
can I get more images of amethyst where her gem is nestled in her cleavage? it's my new religion

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:29:39 No.110145872 Report

Quoted By: >>110145963

>>110145455
i'd love to see an episode about lion's origin

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:32:22 No.110145939 Report

Quoted By:

>>110145825
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:33:21 No.110145963 Report

Quoted By: >>110146000 >>110146042

>>110145872
between seeing Rose with the lion-pride, and seeing Lars come back from the dead, I think you've got all the info you need about Lion's origin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:34:30 No.110146000 Report

Quoted By: >>110147589

>>110145963
speaking of, how long will it take for Lars to use some of his new powers? Like teleporting and walking on water

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:36:21 No.110146042 Report

Quoted By:

>>110145963
i know we have all the info from it, but it'd make for a great episode. flashback eps are always good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:37:46 No.110146076 Report

Quoted By:

>>110145759
I'm fond of her new jacket

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:40:38 No.110146153 Report

Quoted By:

>>110145759
>>110145245
YOU ARE OUT OF TOUCH
I'M OUT OF TIME
BUT I'M OUT OF MY HEAD WHEN YOU ARE NOT AROUND

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:48:03 No.110146346 Report

Quoted By:

I dunno if this is new of not but CN uploaded it about 2 hours ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbBaGRboDVs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 19 Sep 2019 23:52:21 No.110146451 Report

Quoted By:

>>110118869
fpbp, wish it joined horses in a joint containment board since they are pretty much the same show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 00:06:43 No.110146824 Report

Quoted By: >>110150081

>>110125735
A certain bloodline can summon spirit dragons, otherwise all science, mystical on appearance or not, hasn't tried to pass as magic.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 00:39:53 No.110147589 Report

Quoted By: >>110147990

>>110146000
What the fuck are those magic lizards he eats? Does he need to eat them every once in a while? Will Lars get more powers if he eats them?

Are those lizards gems? Is Lion eating gems? Did Rose/Pink feed gems to her pet lion? Is that what she planned to do with Bismuth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 00:42:11 No.110147652 Report

Quoted By:

>>110140540
Because it looks nothing like WD outside of the mural character being white and spiky hair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 00:56:40 No.110147990 Report

Quoted By:

>>110147589
I think it was a reference to Shadow of the Colossus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 00:57:29 No.110148020 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126496
>Season 6
Anon, I...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 01:04:12 No.110148191 Report

Quoted By: >>110150579

After Rose's Scabbard it felt like the show's long term story got aggressively rewritten

Sugar destroyed any potential SU might have had by not making Rose a piece of shit or the Diamonds as redeemable. Imagine going from YD's reveal to her portrayal in the movie. Unearned redemption is such an awful plot device

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 01:04:53 No.110148207 Report

Quoted By:

>>110126496
OH SHIT!
that totally supports my "Pearl can't disobey Greg now" theory

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 01:05:12 No.110148215 Report

Quoted By:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 02:21:52 No.110150081 Report

Quoted By:

>>110146824
Zenyatta floats and heals people with prayer beads and the only explanation for that is "he harnesses omnic energy", which just sounds like some spiritual bullshit. Also, Torbjorn vomits lava.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 02:34:58 No.110150363 Report

Quoted By:

>>110118869
This. SU and Star vs. both taught me a valuable lesson in just how hard a shows potential can tank with its storytelling despite great characters and concepts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 02:36:48 No.110150394 Report

Quoted By: >>110150676

Why did they drop the monster and gem location of the week shit from season 1

Sea and Sky Spires were both kino as fuck locations and episodes. It almost feels like a slap in the face to see the qt heaven and earth beetles at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 02:44:40 No.110150579 Report

Quoted By:

>>110148191
I agree that at least one of the Diamonds should have been irredeemable, but I really like how hard they swerved on the early assumption that Rose was a perfect mother and Greg was a dead beat. I'm kind of hoping Rose ends up being the straight up villain in season 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 02:45:56 No.110150608 Report

Quoted By:

>>110125146
She probably was white and was reset, her song in the movie hints this.

>system/BOOT. PearlFinal (3).Info

Final = white
(2) = pink
(3) = movie moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Sep 2019 02:48:57 No.110150676 Report

Quoted By:

>>110150394
10 minutes is simply not enough time to have a running main storyline and side-story adventures.

also, "stevens perspective" fucked it over.
> any time you don't see someone, they could be on that monster-hunting mission

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