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>>109916114
I saw this over on /tv/ and a few of them were complaining that the Joker is acting effeminate. Imagine having an opinion on the Joker if you haven't even read The Dark Knight Returns at the very least

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:08:55 No.109916369 Report

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>>109916114
So the movie really is a reference to the king of comedy?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:09:29 No.109916384 Report

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>>109916251
GOD DAMMIT! Now that's all I'm going to think about when I see this in the theaters!

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:10:20 No.109916408 Report

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>>109916251
can we get a fucking drawfag now please

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:10:28 No.109916410 Report

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>>109916369
that and taxi driver yes

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:10:54 No.109916427 Report

Quoted By: >>109916572 >>109918017 >>109924720 >>109930361

This is perhaps the most pathetic Joker I've ever seen. This is like those cringey Joker fanboys who get pissed off at the world for being a sperg

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:11:23 No.109916436 Report

Quoted By: >>109916476

>>109916369
It makes sense since The King of Comedy can basically work as a Joker Origin
>We are approaching the world where casual moviegoers have no idea what The King of Comedy even is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:11:39 No.109916445 Report

Quoted By: >>109916579 >>109922945

>>109916410
>>109916369
But it's not like Todd Philips has been shy about admitting these are his inspiration for the film. People are acting like they're clever for figuring it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:12:41 No.109916476 Report

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>>109916436
We were already at that world. It's a cult classic at absolute best.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:14:07 No.109916516 Report

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>>109916337
Pretty sure is was Italian.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:15:48 No.109916543 Report

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:16:57 No.109916572 Report

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>>109916427
I think that's the point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:17:25 No.109916579 Report

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>>109916445
Yeah, it's mix some people are feeling like genius for saying it's king of comedy and taxi driver inspiration and other are praising it for doing it, it's been so long that this movies were forgotten

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:17:58 No.109916587 Report

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>>109916543
Let me guess, he does end up killing him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:18:29 No.109916596 Report

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>>109916363
Reminder that this isn’t based off any comic or cartoon at all, in fact the writers wanted to distance themselves from that as much as possible. So, yeah, their opinions are actually valid there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:19:03 No.109916605 Report

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Jocks are scared

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:20:05 No.109916622 Report

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>>109916114
i still don't get it how did they make movie about joker without batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:20:22 No.109916628 Report

Quoted By: >>109916681 >>109916689 >>109916705 >>109916856 >>109920139 >>109924752

>>109916572
I don't want to watch a movie about The Joker being a pathetic neet who killed some people because his feelings were hurt and mommy didn't raise him right. Which I know Joker has many different takes but Jesus this guy is just a joke. At least in The Killing Joke he was just a down on his luck guy trying his best. This guy was a socially awkward nutball from the get go who isn't threatening at all

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:20:56 No.109916642 Report

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>>109916622
Batman is technically in the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:21:35 No.109916661 Report

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>>109916622
Batman is in there, but he's still a kid whose parents weren't killed yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:21:42 No.109916665 Report

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>>109916622
Because audiences will literally lap up anything with a familiar brand name, even this board. I don't give a damn what /co/ says, Venom was fucking trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:21:57 No.109916670 Report

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>>109916622
You basically have a film where the Status Quo can be broken and Batman can't force things back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:22:06 No.109916673 Report

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>>109916572
Just because it's SUPPOSED to be bad doesn't excuse it from being bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:22:12 No.109916675 Report

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Unironically /our/guy the movie.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:22:26 No.109916681 Report

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>>109916628
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE A JOKER MOVIE THE WAY I DON'T WANT YOU TO. YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN JUST LIKE THE COMICS

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:22:48 No.109916684 Report

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>>109916363
TDKR Joker was fake-calm, not a fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:23:09 No.109916689 Report

Quoted By: >>109916731 >>109916766 >>109917441

>>109916628
>I don't want to watch a movie about The Joker being a pathetic neet who killed some people because his feelings were hurt and mommy didn't raise him right.

Thing is, that's what a lot of psycho killers are like these days. Why do you have to romanticize killers to the point that they mean more than outright aggression to the world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:23:51 No.109916705 Report

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>>109916628
>I don't want
Don't watch it then retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:25:04 No.109916731 Report

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>>109916689
Some subjects hit too close home to some people. My dad avoided Manchester by the Sea because our home burned down too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:25:48 No.109916747 Report

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>>109916673
Newsflash, the Joker being some mastermind of chaos is pretty fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:25:58 No.109916752 Report

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>>109916681
Joker not being like the comics is a good thing. Imagine how shit it would be if they just redid the killing joke for the umpteenth time. The comparisons would be even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:26:28 No.109916766 Report

Quoted By: >>109916830

>>109916681
No? I'm not asking for 1:1. Competent at the least
>>109916689
I'm not romanticizing anything. I'm saying don't make The Joker a fucking pathetic faggot who is throwing a tantrum like the world owes him something.
>>109916705
I wont got to the theater, but I will see it because I can't in good conscious badmouth a film I didn't see. But I read the script so not much difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:26:42 No.109916770 Report

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>>109916114
When he talks about little boys, did anyone else think of this?
https youtube com watch?v=gTnheTvuq7E

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:26:46 No.109916772 Report

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>>109916747
Then don't use joker?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:26:46 No.109916774 Report

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>>109916251

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:27:36 No.109916789 Report

Quoted By: >>109916805

>>109916772
Why not?
We had a person this year shoot up a Mosque and shouted "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" before he did. This is a pretty accurate representation of what the Joker is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:28:31 No.109916805 Report

Quoted By: >>109916832 >>109916852

>>109916789
>This is a pretty accurate representation of what the Joker is now.
What the fuck are you talking about? Also why are people in this thread trying to make The Joker a dime a dozen mass shooter/serial killer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:29:57 No.109916830 Report

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>>109916766
>The Joker a fucking pathetic faggot who is throwing a tantrum like the world owes him something.
Then what the fuck is the Joker to you? Why the fuck do so many pathetic people end up causing shooting sprees like that kid who killed his own parents for taking away his Halo 3?

Because this "I'm chaos and deserve to kill those who wrong me" is pretty much what we got now a days. If the Joker wasn't pathetic, he wouldn't be going on killing sprees. He'd be deep in pussy.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:30:06 No.109916832 Report

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>>109916805
Because 'MUH REALISM"

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:30:35 No.109916842 Report

Quoted By: >>109921754 >>109926454

>watched Batman 1989 last night
>Joker is actually a competent mastermind who doesn't cry about society and just wants to fuck some shit up in Gotham as a big joke
I feel like this Todd Phillips movie is just a more violent King of Comedy that doesn't understand anything about the comic book character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:30:59 No.109916852 Report

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>>109916805
Cause that's what he is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:31:16 No.109916856 Report

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>>109916628
Ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:33:48 No.109916908 Report

Quoted By: >>109917101 >>109917133

>>109916830
The Joker is supposed to embody not giving a single fuck. He does things that are funny to him because the world we created is a bad joke to him. He only gets angry because people don't see it the way he does. But beyond that, The Joker's driving force is fucking over people and having a good time until someone kills him. You faggots keep projecting your own anger towards how the world treats you, and probably explains why you identify with this take so much

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:34:18 No.109916918 Report

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>>109916251

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:38:52 No.109917016 Report

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>>109916587
well it would be funny now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:39:02 No.109917021 Report

Quoted By: >>109917050 >>109917069 >>109917314

>Movie quite literally about "One Bad Day"
>/co/ bitches about it

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:40:55 No.109917050 Report

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>>109917021
He never had a good day though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:41:45 No.109917069 Report

Quoted By: >>109917314

>>109917021
Except it isn't "One Bad Day". His entire life is a fucking shitshow because he has childlike mentality, social issues, and a literal fucking disorder that makes him laugh uncontrollably when he becomes nervous. This isn't the story about an average joe being pushed over the edge, it's a fucking loony who finally decides to put on clown makeup because everyone else was doing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:44:11 No.109917101 Report

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>>109916908
Thats gonna be a yikes from me dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:45:51 No.109917126 Report

Quoted By: >>109917135 >>109917166

>>109917101
And you're a fucking idiot from /tv/ only here to parrot buzzwords and shitpost. I'm not even that big a fan of Joker, but at least I know what he is

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:46:09 No.109917133 Report

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>>109916908
or maybe he just wants to throw pies around and shoot fake guns because hes bonkers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:46:29 No.109917135 Report

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>>109917126
No I'm pretty sure you're just a retard.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:47:21 No.109917151 Report

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>>109917133
Yeah that's part of the "not giving a fuck" part

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:47:27 No.109917154 Report

Quoted By: >>109917267 >>109917423

I miss back when the Joker just fucked with people for the hell of it instead of starting movements, it also feels weird having the Joker be created years before Batman exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:48:06 No.109917166 Report

Quoted By: >>109917257

>>109917126
Please dont shoot up my local theater man im just trying to enjoy a flick on my day off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:53:28 No.109917257 Report

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>>109917166
I swear to God if one of you fucks shoot up my local theater I will fucking kill you!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:54:11 No.109917267 Report

Quoted By: >>109917301 >>109917303 >>109921169

>>109917154
He's not the real Joker. He's the inspiration for the real Batman's Joker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:55:05 No.109917285 Report

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Joker fanatics shoot up Batman movies you simps, and since Batman doesn't use guns there won't be a Batman shooter at this one

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:55:46 No.109917301 Report

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>>109917267
Thats fucking stupid, but i believe it would happen. Smooth brains ruin everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:55:51 No.109917303 Report

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>>109917267
Why do you keep saying that? We've read the script, that's not how it works

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:56:32 No.109917314 Report

Quoted By: >>109917395

>>109917069
>>109917021
Moore's "One bad day" isn't One bad day either

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:58:17 No.109917338 Report

Quoted By: >>109917346 >>109917420 >>109917481 >>109917634

>>109916114
Jesus christ this movie is going to come in WAY under projections. Purely from a boxoffice perspective I can't see this doing well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 01:58:49 No.109917346 Report

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>>109917338
Really? I can see this doing EXTREMELY well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:01:24 No.109917391 Report

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>>109917346
Oh yeah it's going to do great for sure.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:01:39 No.109917395 Report

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>>109917314
Yes yes we all know he had a hard life before the incident. But it was manageable, and he had a supporting wife. Losing your family and getting chemically burned will count as a "bad day" compared to the rest of your life. This Joker fucking sucks because his "bad day" is finding out he's adopted and people laughing at him. Boo fucking hoo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:03:26 No.109917420 Report

Quoted By: >>109917553

>>109917338
It's tracking incredibly well and there's tons of hype. Stay mad fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:03:33 No.109917423 Report

Quoted By: >>109917489 >>109917497

>>109917154
Honestly tired of people that think redesigned BTAS is the only way batman should be, including wacky random joker. Fuck. Off.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:04:24 No.109917441 Report

Quoted By: >>109917505

>>109916689
>Thing is, that's what a lot of psycho killers are like these days.

I don't want to watch a movie about pathetic people, I want to watch a movie about a capeshit super villain. This guy acts more like a sperg shooter who emulates the Joker than the actual Joker. Its like the writers realized "oh fuck this script sucks, we cant sell this after all" and licensed Warner Bros. for a Joker likeness or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:06:06 No.109917472 Report

Quoted By: >>109917502 >>109917573 >>109923878 >>109926011 >>109926901

>>109917346
So it's about Joker sure but the Joker isn't eye candy so he's not going to bring in girls.

It's hyper violent and focuses on it in a serious manner unlike Deadpool which was comedy so kids probably aren't being brought in.

And basically any nerds who grew up loving the Joker as a villain are not going to like what's done to him here.

Tumblr will love it. Critics will love it.

The GA will not. The fans will not. As soon as people realize that Batman isn't in the movie (which rest assured most people are retards and probably have no idea what the main theme/etc of the movie is about so they won't know he's still a kid) they aren't going to be as willing to spend money on it.

This isn't like It which has the horror aspect and being a well known and relatively faithful Stephen King adaption going for it.

This isn't Deadpool where the entire movie is a serious of jokes and not taking really anything seriously.

This is a serious movie that focuses on being serious, the violence isn't a conduit for horror or comedy, it's a conduit to show that yes, this is serious. People won't like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:06:26 No.109917481 Report

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>>109917338
I agree. The film needs a 30 minute CGI cutscene where the Joker fights an army of swat teams that come out of a blue laser shooting up into the sky

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:06:43 No.109917489 Report

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>>109917423
Todd please go

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:07:21 No.109917497 Report

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>>109917423
Anon your movement shit is fucking stupid

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:07:28 No.109917499 Report

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>>109916251
got me good

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:07:40 No.109917502 Report

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>>109917472
Pretty much this. It will sell tickets initially because people won't know anything about it, but expect a huge drop off. People won't like anything this movie is doing. It has no audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:07:44 No.109917505 Report

Quoted By: >>109917528 >>109917617 >>109924440

>>109917441
So what should a Joker movie be about? The Joker sees the report that a mob boss is running out of Gotham, waltzes in, shoots the door man, kills everyone on his way to the mob boss, kills him with an electric buzzer, says he's running thing and he wants a bag of coke and two bitches?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:08:43 No.109917528 Report

Quoted By: >>109917618

>>109917505
We already have a Joker movie script, it was done by Alan Moore and then printed as a comic book. A good start would be to make the Joker (as in the man, not the character) sympathetic in any way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:10:10 No.109917553 Report

Quoted By: >>109917649

>>109917346
>>109917420
You really think people are going to want to see a movie that reinforces "white men bad"? Critics love it because they sniff their farts and think it says something about the cultural zeitgeist of today, but people are going to sour on the movie as soon as they realize what it's actually about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:11:30 No.109917573 Report

Quoted By: >>109917665 >>109924498

>>109917472
>Tumblr will love it.
Tumblr already hates it because it's "Incels the movie".
>This isn't Deadpool where the entire movie is a serious of jokes and not taking really anything seriously.
Did you miss the part where Deadpool had cancer? Or when Deadpool's girlfriend died and he continually tried to off himself to be with her?

You're asking for an impossible film. You're asking for a film about an absolute asshole who just keeps winning and has to be the biggest badass around. There's no story there. Even Scarface had his weaknesses, and saying that the Joker needs to be this ultra serious guy yet be this ultimate badass for chaos is in itself really fucking laughable.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:12:51 No.109917590 Report

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>>109917502
Again, why? Cause it doesn't have the Joker shooting up a school shouting "HAPPY SANDY HOOKS DAY!" and then try to create the chemical to kill all black people?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:14:42 No.109917617 Report

Quoted By: >>109917675 >>109926920

>>109917505
Partially. Rather than say he's running it, have him leave with a smile painted on the wall. Make the Joker into the anti-batman.
I'm not saying make him a hero or anti-hero even, he destroys the mafia group because they are competitors, his own stuff is relatively small time though so to the common man he's the known factor they can deal with. Then Batman comes in, destroys his operation because even if the Joker doesn't go after people as much he's much more violent than the other criminals towards those he sees as competition. So Batman cracks down on The Joker and causes his 'one bad day'. The Joker is now Batman's mistake from good intentions, Gordon still supports him because taking out The Joker was necessary, everyone else hates Batman because as far as they are concerned The Joker snapping made things way worse since now he doesn't care about getting civilians in his way.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:14:48 No.109917618 Report

Quoted By: >>109917632

>>109917528
And we keep going back to the Killing Joke. A story that relies on Batman, Commissioner Gordon and Batgirl to work. That story wouldn't work as a stand alone project because it needs those three previous characters to work, and then you get goofy shit like falling into chemicals.

But please, go off on why we should do the Killing Joke again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:15:40 No.109917632 Report

Quoted By: >>109917695

>>109917618
Sounds more like the fault of making a standalone character whose only purpose in life is to cause misery for Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:15:52 No.109917634 Report

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>>109917338
Then you're an idiot

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:17:05 No.109917649 Report

Quoted By: >>109917751 >>109917814 >>109918796

>>109917553
This movie honestly follows in the vein of Taxi Driver, Fight Club and as mentioned above, King of Comedy. Are people going to be upset that it doesn't make this silly portrayal of how the Joker fell into chemicals and then wished vengeance on the world? What this movie is trying to achieve is scary because we all have urges to kill people, but this shows what happens when someone is pushed to act upon them. Not get pushed by the mob to fight Batman, fell into a vat then claims he's the sanest man ever for seeing everything as a joke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:17:36 No.109917665 Report

Quoted By: >>109917727

>>109917573
>Tumblr hates it
So even less of an audience than i thought
>Deadpool had cancer, deadpool's GF died and he offed himself to be with her

To the first part that was somewhat serious but they played it as a joke constantly, it was kind of cringey and the jokes were meh but they still did them. As far as the GF went that was the first 5-10 minutes of the 2nd movie then the plot moved on, and even then his attempts at killing himself were made out to be a joke.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:17:58 No.109917669 Report

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Wasn't there a leaked plot summary here a few months ago that mentioned him killing Murray on live tv? Anyone have it?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:18:21 No.109917675 Report

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>>109917617
Jesus fucking Christ, you just wrote another Batman vs Joker movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:19:23 No.109917695 Report

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>>109917632
And yet this movie is getting a lot of buzz for trying something different and even won a film festival. But sure, go off so we can have another "Batman is ineffective" story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:20:05 No.109917713 Report

Quoted By: >>109917749 >>109917754

See in my mind The Joker would have turned the tables on Murray, and actually have a joke before shooting him instead of this crybaby shit about how the world isn't fair. I'm not a writer but something like
>"That footage you showed last week, Murr? Man was that act bad! I can't believe that was me. In fact I don't think I am that guy anymore. But hey, I'm new to comedy, perhaps you can help me out with my new material. "What do you when you're a bad comedian dying out on stage?", Murray?"
>BAM
>"You make sure some other sucker dies first"
Or fuck I don't know. Something that shows Joker making murder a comedy routine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:21:43 No.109917727 Report

Quoted By: >>109917764 >>109917771

>>109917665
If I'm being honest, it sounds like you think that the only version of this movie only exists in your head and that people will love that version only, which is delusional.

Go on twitter. Hell, even a lot of 4chan is hyping up this film. You have to be retarded to think this film won't do well. But then again, I'm talking to someone who bases their movie knowledge off 40 year old comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:22:54 No.109917749 Report

Quoted By: >>109921957

>>109917713
Warner Bros decided the Joker isn't supposed to try to be funny anymore

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:22:59 No.109917751 Report

Quoted By: >>109917785

>>109917649
Yeah, nah, no one is going to want to watch a movie that pushes the narrative that all white men are five seconds away from shooting up a mall

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:23:11 No.109917753 Report

Quoted By: >>109917782 >>109917819

I’m so fucking mad he doesn’t seem to Joker gas the audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:23:12 No.109917754 Report

Quoted By: >>109917800

>>109917713
Then that would be a weak climax.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:23:37 No.109917764 Report

Quoted By: >>109926934

>>109917727
The Joker that people like is the Joker that Heath Ledger played in Dark Knight.
This Joker is not that Joker. He's closer than the abomination that was Jared Leto's but it goes way to far on the violence side and tries to humanize him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:24:01 No.109917771 Report

Quoted By: >>109917819 >>109922159 >>109922169

>>109917727
4chan hyped Alita Battle Angel too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:24:33 No.109917782 Report

Quoted By: >>109917840

>>109917753
TDKR did this shit so much better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYNDHuH6MNA

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:24:44 No.109917785 Report

Quoted By: >>109917806

>>109917751
I find it funny how you're suddenly changing the subject to be about "All White Men"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:25:30 No.109917800 Report

Quoted By: >>109917842

>>109917754
Well I wasn't really thinking a climax but you get my point. In fact Murray's show probably shouldn't be the climax

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:25:48 No.109917806 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917785
That was my original point, you're the one trying to change the subject.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:26:08 No.109917814 Report

Quoted By: >>109917842 >>109918472

>>109917649
>What this movie is trying to achieve is scary because we all have urges to kill people
Speak for yourself, you should get checked buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:26:19 No.109917819 Report

Quoted By: >>109917890

>>109917753
Because having a realistic movie involving weird gas babies would be extremely...weird.
>>109917771
Nobody outside 4chan knows what Alita is. Meanwhile, I got coworkers who don't read comics interested in this film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:27:34 No.109917840 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917782
See even that scene has a half decent joke. He asks if he can keep the mug, and then uses it as a weapon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:27:45 No.109917842 Report

Quoted By: >>109917870 >>109917895

>>109917800
But then what should be the climax? Fighting Batman and losing?
>>109917814
I honestly don't believe you, because you're on 4chan arguing about a movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:29:38 No.109917870 Report

Quoted By: >>109917906

>>109917842
>I honestly don't believe you, because you're on 4chan arguing about a movie.
Not everyone on 4chan is a god damn degenerate, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:30:46 No.109917890 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917819

You don’t have to do it just like DKR and have him ride a robot out. Like after he kills De Niro goons put open the doors and throw smoke grenades or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:30:52 No.109917895 Report

Quoted By: >>109918101 >>109918186

>>109917842
Well if we gave him some sort of mob connection he could probably off The Maroni's and Falcones, thus symbolizing how the old ways of Gotham are ending. Like for example the climax is just The Godfather where random mafia family members all die in "comedic" style murders/accidents orchestrated by The Joker, and the movie ends with his first big coming out party to announce himself to Gotham. Like say, poisoning the water supply, like his first stunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:31:34 No.109917906 Report

Quoted By: >>109917936

>>109917870
and yet I still don't believe you're more sane than the rest of us with how delusional you are with "Everyone is going to hate this movie"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:34:21 No.109917936 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917906
That wasn't me but the movie will definitely be controversial

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:39:51 No.109918005 Report

Quoted By: >>109918027

>>109916681
we don't do that here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:40:56 No.109918017 Report

Quoted By: >>109918048

>>109916427
Joker would be a hothead at the beginning of his career

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:41:27 No.109918027 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918005
kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:42:39 No.109918048 Report

Quoted By: >>109918176

>>109918017
Shills are out in full force tonight

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:46:38 No.109918101 Report

Quoted By: >>109918216 >>109918233

>>109917895
>TDK was basically the joker telling the old crime families to fuck off there’s a new breed of villain in town

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:47:28 No.109918111 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
It tries really hard to be Taxi Driver, or hell Joaquin's own You Were Never Really Here, but lacks any of the subtlety that made both one great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:51:46 No.109918165 Report

Quoted By: >>109919865 >>109935852 >>109937709

>>109916114

I think the links got killed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:52:17 No.109918176 Report

Quoted By: >>109918202 >>109918499

>>109918048
cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:53:02 No.109918186 Report

Quoted By: >>109918216

>>109917895
Like how the opening scene of The Dark Knight was The Joker robbing a mafia bank, and then later on he walks in on a major crime lord meeting and tells them how things work now before taking two boats full of civilians and the mayor/criminals hostage while simultaneously killing the police commissioner and Batman's GF

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:53:37 No.109918202 Report

Quoted By: >>109918499

>>109918176
dilate

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:54:09 No.109918216 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918101
>>109918186
But with more clown shit and more revenge style

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 02:55:22 No.109918233 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918101
TDK was pretty explicit about that yeah.
What do you think that scene of him burning all the Mafia's cash was about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:09:30 No.109918429 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
Wait does he actually say we live in a society in the movie?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:09:58 No.109918436 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
HE CANT REACH IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:12:25 No.109918472 Report

Quoted By: >>109918641

>>109917814
I find it funny (and somewhat frustrating) that people in 4chan keep denying their desire to brutally murder all blacks/women/Jews/Lations/Asians/LGBTBBQs/etc. because their mere existence means that media will no longer cater to white hetero men like anons believe they should.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:13:56 No.109918499 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918202
>>109918176
yikes

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:14:48 No.109918508 Report

Quoted By:

God damn it I laugh at the joke now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:25:17 No.109918636 Report

Quoted By: >>109919835

>>109916114
Huh. You know what this reminds me of? Penguin, from Gotham.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:25:46 No.109918641 Report

Quoted By: >>109918759

>>109918472

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:34:57 No.109918759 Report

Quoted By: >>109918837

>>109918641
Still denying your true desires, anon? Do you seriously think 4chan isn't proud of its reputation as the "Internet's hate machine?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:37:31 No.109918796 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917649
Problem is that he isnt scary as he should be. Compare TDKR's tv show scene to this one for example, since it was an obvious influence. There he feels like a timebomb about to go off where here he's more like a bullied kid that finally loses it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:40:06 No.109918837 Report

Quoted By: >>109918879 >>109919716 >>109919977 >>109920045 >>109922757

>>109918759
/pol/ doesn't represent all of 4chan so fuck off, election tourist. this is the last (you) you're getting from me

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:42:15 No.109918879 Report

Quoted By: >>109922722

>>109918837
>/pol/ doesn't represent all of 4chan
Ever since 2016, it absolutely does. Sorry that you're still too in denial to accept it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:43:30 No.109918903 Report

Quoted By:

The TIFF screening of Joker is out and it's all incredibly positive again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 03:43:58 No.109918907 Report

Quoted By: >>109919762

>>109916306
>him slowly giving up and realizing he has to ask the joker to open the door for him

i kinda hope he lives

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:13:51 No.109919346 Report

Quoted By: >>109919419

>Video gets nuked as I'm watching
>Stops loading just as Joker blows his head off
Pretty *funny* if I may say so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:15:58 No.109919380 Report

Quoted By: >>109919958 >>109920109 >>109920156 >>109922776 >>109923126 >>109926999 >>109931287 >>109932261 >>109932364

>>109916114
Third clip
https://55chan.org/b/src/1568066222552.mp4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:18:29 No.109919419 Report

Quoted By:

>>109919346
What? Ive been able to watch the video several times.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:33:06 No.109919630 Report

Quoted By: >>109922957 >>109929754

>>109916114
Its not a comic movie

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:33:29 No.109919634 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:39:48 No.109919716 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918837
They do, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:42:43 No.109919762 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918907
he did, Joker opened it for him and let him live

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:47:38 No.109919835 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918636
It's the voice, and even the attitude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:49:30 No.109919865 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918165
no they didn't you're just gay

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:54:46 No.109919958 Report

Quoted By:

>>109919380
That was painful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 04:56:12 No.109919977 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918837
Unfortunately they do thanks to a lack of moderation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 05:00:43 No.109920045 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918837
still not biting? c'mon give me that sweet sweet (you) already

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 05:04:07 No.109920109 Report

Quoted By:

>>109919380
>Waa waaa
God bless that tuba player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 05:05:54 No.109920139 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916628
Like half of Joker's supposed origins start out that way. Pick up a fucking comic book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 05:06:51 No.109920156 Report

Quoted By: >>109920178 >>109920504

>>109919380
>"I killed 3 people."
>"I have nothing left to live."
>"My life's a joke."
>"We live in a society."
>Hmm, I think I'm gonna continue to interview this mentally unstable, dangerous guy instead of immediately trying to get to safety.
This is so fucking stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 05:07:42 No.109920178 Report

Quoted By: >>109923407

>>109920156
What you meant to say was "kino".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 05:16:49 No.109920311 Report

Quoted By: >>109922748

>>109916622
Good
Fuck status quo

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 05:17:55 No.109920325 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
Looking forward to the supercut of Joker saying "society"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 05:29:43 No.109920504 Report

Quoted By:

>>109920156
Interviewing a man breaking down would be great for ratings. Shit why do you think Dr.Phil is a thing? Should have checked him for weapons though.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 06:18:52 No.109921169 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917267
But hey, THAT'S JUST A THEORY

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 06:39:58 No.109921436 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 06:47:33 No.109921537 Report

Quoted By: >>109921597

>>109916251
MOM'S GONNA FREAK!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 06:53:33 No.109921597 Report

Quoted By:

>>109921537
[Spanish Flea starts playing]

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 06:59:48 No.109921654 Report

Quoted By: >>109931398

>People bitching about the Joker being a loser
Do you people even read comics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 07:11:48 No.109921754 Report

Quoted By: >>109922756

>>109916842
Do you not understand what adaptations are? Nolan's Joker also had his whole credo about nihilism and chaos.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 07:30:13 No.109921913 Report

Quoted By: >>109922343

>>109916114
>"We decided not to follow any comic story line, we just wanted to make something ourselves. It's definitely got inspiration from Taxi Driver and the King of Comedy. Batman won't be showing up."
>WUUUUT WHY ISN'T IT FOLLOWING THE COMICS?! WHERE'S BATMAN? TRYING TO PULL A FAST ONE ON ME, IT'S JUST TAKING SHIT FROM TAXI DRIVER AND KING OF COMEDY!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 07:36:44 No.109921957 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917749
Since when is the Joker actually funny?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 07:59:31 No.109922126 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916587
No, this is Neil Gaiman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 08:01:13 No.109922137 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916661
Incorrect, Bruce is a separate entity. Batman wasn't born until the waynes got murdered in crime alley

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 08:04:01 No.109922159 Report

Quoted By: >>109922172

>>109917771
Except this isn't just being hyped by 4chan. This just won the top award in Venice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 08:04:52 No.109922169 Report

Quoted By: >>109934673

>>109917771
>4chan hyped Alita Battle Angel too.

We just wanted anime to be real

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 08:05:14 No.109922172 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922159
Trannies on (increased) suicide watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 08:13:40 No.109922228 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916622
I know its a meme opinion but batman is the least interesting thing about his setting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 08:28:54 No.109922343 Report

Quoted By: >>109922596 >>109922619 >>109922634 >>109922849 >>109926393

>>109921913
Why bother making a Joker movie if you're not gonna be even a slightest bit inspired by the source material?
Just give it its own separate name

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 08:59:41 No.109922555 Report

Quoted By: >>109922905

>>109916587
hey man, kid set up the punchline. if he had just went "yeah sure dude" it would've been funnier to let the kid live
THATS how you beat joker as a pedestrian

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:05:58 No.109922596 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922343
The source material sucks.
/tv/ wins again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:10:13 No.109922619 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922343
Because Hollywood doesn't make as much money off of original concepts as it does tried and tested properties. If you're going to sink anywhere from 80 million to 200 million on a movie, you want the best return possible. The best way to assure that return is as good as can be is to do what already worked. Joker is popular, so this is a joker movie.

Random clown guy who kills people because it's funny to him isn't popular, and people would compare it to Joker, so this is a Joker movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:12:28 No.109922634 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922343
I dunno. The way he scared that terrified midget was pretty funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:16:08 No.109922656 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
Do people here really like this edgy shit or is it all just memeing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:18:45 No.109922673 Report

Quoted By: >>109922695 >>109922865

Pretty cringe-worthy. When they said we were getting a more grounded take on the Joker I wasn't expecting them to turn him into a gibbering fool. The trailers almost made this movie look like a documentary of a man's slow descent into madness, but here we got the comic book-tier villainous monologue and supervillain music playing in the background so I guess it's just more capeshit.

Thanks you for sharing this and saving me the time to go see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:23:19 No.109922695 Report

Quoted By: >>109922712 >>109922938

>>109922673
>slow descent

His mom dies, he gets made fun of on live tv, then he finds out his mom's ex-boyfriend molested him and beat him so badly that he got literal brain damage that ruined his life. All in one day.
That's the Joker story. A slow descent is just a brainlet incel story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:27:00 No.109922712 Report

Quoted By: >>109922744 >>109922933

>>109922695
Since we're operating on 100% comic book logic here, can't the martian manhunter just come down and fix everything? Are clown riots really such a big issue in the DCverse? I mean, clearly the movie has absolutely nothing in common to real life anymore, so why not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:27:52 No.109922722 Report

Quoted By: >>109922874 >>109922888

>>109918879
Then go to /pol/. You're the type to a see a nose then blame all the jews anyway. You don't seem to care about the differences between people except for superficial shit like skin. For fucks sake, /pol/ understands ideological differences better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:32:37 No.109922744 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922712
I don't even know where to start with this. You either are literally retarded, like the Joaquin Joker, or you had no idea what you were responding to before button mashing random words.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:33:07 No.109922748 Report

Quoted By:

>>109920311
There's fuck the status quo and then there's the only thing this has in common with the comics is the name of the city.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:34:28 No.109922756 Report

Quoted By:

>>109921754
How do you not get that that was all a smokescreen to push Harvey over the edge, the closest we get to Joker's real motivation was his speech at the end of wanting to beat Batman for a challenge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:34:31 No.109922757 Report

Quoted By:

>>109918837
you need to leave, leftie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:38:59 No.109922776 Report

Quoted By:

>>109919380
I like that joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:52:36 No.109922849 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922343
comics are a joke, they are being inspired by kino rather than drawing for grown up children

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:55:14 No.109922865 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922673
seething tranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:56:17 No.109922874 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922722
This is a /pol/ website.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 09:58:37 No.109922888 Report

Quoted By: >>109922966

>>109922722
/tv/ - is /pol/ and television
/v/ - is /pol/ and videogames
/co/ - will soon be /pol/ and cartoons
Accept the change for your own good biggot, /co/ cannot survive without /pol/-friends

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:02:13 No.109922905 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916587
>>109917016
>>109922555
He actually doesn't kill him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:04:01 No.109922918 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
Dont know why but this was fucking hilarious yet scary to watch, it's like seeing a bear rape a guy, violent, wild, but you cant help but watch because this is too damn hilarious >>109916337

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:06:12 No.109922933 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922712
Bait. I hope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:07:03 No.109922938 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922695
This is really the edgiest backstory they could come up with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:09:13 No.109922945 Report

Quoted By: >>109922967 >>109930965

>>109916369
>>109916445
It's more than a reference.
The movie was originally going to be a King of the Comedy remake starring Robert DeNiro, produced by Scorsese who was the director of the original movie. Martin Scorsese decided to work on another project so they rewrote it as a Joker origins movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:10:46 No.109922957 Report

Quoted By: >>109923020 >>109924545 >>109925689 >>109929345

>>109919630
>make a movie about a comic book character
>"We didn't want to be too influenced by the comic book."

but why

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:11:53 No.109922966 Report

Quoted By: >>109923922

>>109922888
And hilariously enough, /pol/ is the best board to discuss anything on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:12:08 No.109922967 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922945
>The movie was originally going to be a King of the Comedy remake starring Robert DeNiro, produced by Scorsese who was the director of the original movie. Martin Scorsese decided to work on another project so they rewrote it as a Joker origins movie.
What are you basing that on?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:17:39 No.109923008 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
Kino

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:19:11 No.109923020 Report

Quoted By: >>109923069

>>109922957
Because comic books are gay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:27:48 No.109923069 Report

Quoted By: >>109923091 >>109924795 >>109928157

>>109923020
>Posts in /co/ to point out that comics are gay.

You're more gay than comics itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:32:17 No.109923091 Report

Quoted By:

>>109923069
I just came here from /tv/, the superior /co/ board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:38:06 No.109923126 Report

Quoted By:

>>109919380
what’s funneh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 10:45:08 No.109923167 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916258
HE SAID IT!!!
HE SAID THE LINE!!!!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 11:15:00 No.109923339 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916251
Took me a moment. 10/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 11:22:27 No.109923380 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917303
It's what they do. There hasn't been a single DC movie where these retards made up some bullshit conspiracy theory for and then repeated ad nauseam like it was the absolute truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 11:26:31 No.109923407 Report

Quoted By: >>109923493

>>109920178
>No, you mean "meme term" please go see this move
Paid shills really aren''t trying anymore, uh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 11:38:37 No.109923493 Report

Quoted By: >>109923845

>>109923407
You know you're going to go see this kino either way.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 12:00:13 No.109923813 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
Jerma finally got his big break.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 12:04:08 No.109923845 Report

Quoted By: >>109929072

>>109923493
No one is seeing this shit

At best they might catch it on Netflix unless WB tries to dump it on that shitty HBO Max no one is going to buy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 12:07:52 No.109923878 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917472
Except that general audience watch movies just for the sake of watching movies. Joker is a recognizable brand and there's no doubt that they'll eat it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 12:12:40 No.109923922 Report

Quoted By: >>109923937 >>109931455

>>109922966

Like how /v/ and /co/ talks about anime better than /a/ does. 4chan has this innate ability to have OFF topic discussions be better than the ACTUAL discussions the board is made for.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 12:14:45 No.109923937 Report

Quoted By: >>109924416 >>109925269

>>109923922
>/co/mblr
>a better board for discussing anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 12:44:01 No.109924252 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
>We live in a society

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 12:59:48 No.109924416 Report

Quoted By: >>109924819

>>109923937
Hey, look, I can also be a /v/ tourist.
Ogga booga dooga fuck the system, but only when it doesn't represent me, why can't I fap in peace in /v/ while I get to shitpost about everything that's not even videogame related. mommy give me milk-you get the fucking point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:01:12 No.109924440 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917505
>Chad Joker
sounds good

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:06:57 No.109924498 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917573
>an absolute asshole who just keeps winning and has to be the biggest badass around.
It's realistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:15:32 No.109924545 Report

Quoted By: >>109925689

>>109922957
based on an interview about just that question, Philips wanted to tell this story but also wanted to make money. he saw a billboard for suicide aquad around the time his move war dogs or whatever was coming out and said "these morons will see that kind of garbage in droves" and the idea was born

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:16:37 No.109924560 Report

Quoted By: >>109924773 >>109924778 >>109926044 >>109926490 >>109929871

why is everybody celebrating this?

this is worse case scenario for comic fans. we're going to get at least 10 fucking years of edgelord SOCIETY joker now in the comics just like how we've gotten skwad/arkham harley. DC will just go with whatever is popular with the normies in their crossover media.

ffs we were JUST finally getting outof the muh anarchist who cares about nothing but muh choas ledger joker few years ago and now we're going right back into the dumpster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:29:30 No.109924720 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916427
No shit, he's a pathetic and pitiable murderer, why the villain worship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:32:20 No.109924752 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916628
Why do you thinkJoker is ever justified? I can think of no interpretation where he isn't either a pure monster or a self-pitying psychopath. People who think otherwise don't understand Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:33:44 No.109924773 Report

Quoted By: >>109924837 >>109924954 >>109925205

>>109924560
Instead of what? Its a fresh take. The industry may be redundant and copjes itself, but that's no reason to be a pessimist and a doomsayer when someone introduces something new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:33:59 No.109924778 Report

Quoted By: >>109924879

>>109924560
This is what you get when people doesn't care about the source material and just want to promote his own personal vision of something (That they didn't even care of read or watch, becuase Philipps told that he didn't even read comics about The Joker, not even the most mainstream ones).

Imagine if the Daredevil Netflix show was writen and directed by people that didn't care about Matt or Fisk. Projects like DD work because there is people who understands and respects the material behind it, changing some stuff, but keeping the main essence intact.

Judging by this leaked scenes, Phoenix isn't even The Joker, he's just an edgier version of Rupert Pupkin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:35:19 No.109924795 Report

Quoted By:

>>109923069
You know that mental gymnastic has never worked, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:37:00 No.109924819 Report

Quoted By: >>109930216

>>109924416
The left really can't meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:38:20 No.109924837 Report

Quoted By: >>109924911 >>109924975 >>109926719

>>109924773
>Instead of what? Its a fresh take.
This is the rule now? Anytime that someone fucks up some franchise or character you people will defend it as "It's a fresh take"?

All this "fresh takes" are important to future generations. People like us had Nicholson's Joker or/and Hamill Joker, so to speak. Adaptations that while having differences and liberties, were The Joker.

But what about new people that wants to get into this characters? Were going to reach a point of no return where everyone will have a wrong vision of The Joker, like it happened already with Harley Quinn. A lot of people thinks The Joker it's just and Edgy Anarchist that does shit for Chaos, and now thanks to this film, we will have a lot of people that will think that The Joker it's a fucking Beta without personality that gets offended and kills everyone who offends him (A Joker that doesn't even have the design of the character).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:40:47 No.109924879 Report

Quoted By: >>109924946 >>109925738

>>109924778
Do you really worship this fictional murderer character so much you won't tolerate a more realistic take? I honestly don't get how your brain let's itsef get offended over the superficial aspects and 'coolness' of this cartoon clown. The question of the joker is how is this mentality possible? In the past they played it off as a vague mental break, but even Killing Joke joker was a self-pitying dumbass overreacting to pain and his own bad decisions. This isn't even a new or risky take, its a very intuitive way such a character could happen in real life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:42:03 No.109924898 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
GAMERS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:43:06 No.109924911 Report

Quoted By: >>109924954 >>109924977

>>109924837
Its literally not fucked up, its a quality take on a stale character, so you can save your breath and self-pity

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:45:21 No.109924946 Report

Quoted By: >>109925009

>>109924879
You're now excusing the Big Le Meme Joker movie because it's supposed to be more realistic? I feel pitty for you and everyone who tries to defend this flick by being "realistic".

You see, I don't want (or talked) about how The Joker should work on a realistic ground, I'm talking about how it is possible to fuck up a character this bad and miss the point of the Joke this hard.

It's not about being realistic or not, it's about wanting to see The Joker being The Joker, you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:45:45 No.109924954 Report

Quoted By:

>>109924911
>>109924773
it's not a fresh take, it's literally muh travis bickle scorsese homage joker

it brings nothing new to the table. and now true comic fans are going to have to suffer through synergy SOCIETY joker

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:46:45 No.109924975 Report

Quoted By: >>109924999

>>109924837
>we will have a variety of jokers
Thats literally fine you long, he's not real. He's a creative symbol invented as a picture of Vincent Price trolling a Bat-themed Dick Tracy knockoff, and he's been a million things, so now for this standalone movie they're merely exploring how such a character might occur and behave realistically. Its great

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:46:54 No.109924977 Report

Quoted By: >>109925055

>>109924911
>Quality

Bitch, they just dropped Rupert Pupkin into this and made him more edgy. That's no fucking Quality, anyone can grab an existing character and turn him into something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:47:51 No.109924991 Report

Quoted By: >>109925012

>DCucks finally get an objectively good movie
>Cry about it anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:48:17 No.109924999 Report

Quoted By:

>>109924975
>He's a creative symbol
>symbol

Oh, so you're ONE of those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:49:09 No.109925009 Report

Quoted By: >>109925041

>>109924946
>youre literallt defending BAD MOVIE because of its CONTENTS?
Yes dude, its literally interesting and your posessiveness of such a narrow cartoon idea of this IP is autistic meme worship and you dont even have the creativity to see these icons for what they are. You're an inferior fan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:49:28 No.109925012 Report

Quoted By: >>109926400

>>109924991
It's not a DC Movie, I wish it was. Im no DCuck either, I'm just pointing out the obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:51:24 No.109925041 Report

Quoted By: >>109925073

>>109925009
Autistic, you say? Like the people that destroyed Batman & Robin back then for being a bad Batman flick?

It's just autistic when it's convenient for you fucking arguments it seems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:53:00 No.109925055 Report

Quoted By: >>109925104

>>109924977
Cut the tvtropes logic and look at the production, the actual content of the film. Joaquin Phoenix having a well filmed well acted abusive spree in the comedic theme of the joker. Whats the problem? You worship this stuff too much to see what it is
But you're the type of fan who keeps photos of the Joker from the DCAU around his house because he loves seeing the cartoon clown, so enjoy fighting for and being so protective of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:54:18 No.109925073 Report

Quoted By: >>109925095 >>109925156

>>109925041
Fans are ridiculous and so are you, whats the contradiction? The movie looks great and you're out there petitioning people to hate it out of respect for the cartoon. Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:56:12 No.109925095 Report

Quoted By: >>109925123

>>109925073
The cartoon is all they have anon

That and their obsession with Snyder

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:56:52 No.109925104 Report

Quoted By: >>109925171

>>109925055
What TVTropes Logic, ffs? It's just Rupert Pupkin dressed as a Wannabe Joker, and you have the balls to tell me THAT is Quality?

What production? It has less money than Aquaman or Shazam.
What content? The one that we read time ago when the script got leaked?

You know who else worships this stuff? People like Paul Dini, or Chip Zdarsky, or Grant Morrison, or Dennis O'Neil. You know, the kind of people who care about this characters for what they are and not for what they are not.

You would understand if you actually liked this stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 13:58:42 No.109925123 Report

Quoted By: >>109925174

>>109925095
Man, I fucking hate Snyder, stop pretending I'm one of this DCucks. If I'm ranting about it's because Joker will suffer the same destiny as Superman, it's happening all over again, and it baffles me that your retardation doesn't allow you to understand this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:01:54 No.109925156 Report

Quoted By: >>109925226

>>109925073
Man, I get it, you don't care about the source material, if you could you would've destroyed it yourself, stop pushing it, I will stop.

Then you DCucks cry about why our movies are bad, jeez, I WONDER

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:02:56 No.109925171 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925104
>what tvtropes logic, its literally just a collection of tropes! You call that quality?
I call craft, cinematography, storytelling, acting, and MOVIEMAKING quality, not some fucking character names you can glean off of wikipedia or a plot you can fit in a synopsis. If every actor and writer on the planet made a movie where they expertly displayed their interpretation if a murderer, and I had the time, I would watch ALL of them because it is a cathartic and personal subject worthy of being made visual drama

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:03:03 No.109925174 Report

Quoted By: >>109925208 >>109925259

>>109925123
>I fucking hate Snyder
No shit DCuck

Bashing Snyder and jerking off to your 90s cartoons are all you dipshits ever do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:06:10 No.109925205 Report

Quoted By: >>109925253

>>109924773
God just go fuck yourself with a rake

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:06:18 No.109925208 Report

Quoted By: >>109925317

>>109925174
>every DC/DCEU movie without Snyder as a director has gotten good reception AND a great box office
>"I-It's DC's fault, not Snyder's!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:06:29 No.109925212 Report

Quoted By:

Hey, what does he say before the fed cuts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:06:55 No.109925226 Report

Quoted By: >>109925287 >>109925320 >>109925369

>>109925156
I love the source material, you rat, and I allow for the character to have unique standalone interpretations because I can have both. YOU are the one who claims the IP is DESTROYED with any alternate interpretation. I DARE you to muster up an argument that isn't just another essay in how you feel damaged. None of it is logical or convincing to the rest of us who can simply just follow a widely interpreted character

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:08:18 No.109925253 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925205
You've got nothing but anger reactions and emotional claims that a cartoon might be damaged.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:08:35 No.109925259 Report

Quoted By: >>109925287 >>109925306 >>109925428 >>109930425

>>109925174
I didn't even tell that the old material was better. I'm tired of that shit too, I want to like new material, but this stuff isn't helping.

You know who was a Better insecure and Beta Joker than Phoenix "Joker" because at least he respected the source material and bringed new material to the table? John Doe. He's not from the cartoons, he's not from the past century, he's a brand new fresh interpretation of the character that got what Phillips never cared to get.

Now, if the movies at least had the same respect as TellTale for characters like Joker, I wouldn't be here ranting about Mr. Sarcasm Adventures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:09:45 No.109925269 Report

Quoted By:

>>109923937
>pebble yeet
Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:11:02 No.109925287 Report

Quoted By: >>109925428

>>109925226
Care to read >>109925259

As you see, I do like unique fresh interpretations. The difference between John Doe and Joaquin's Joker is that the first one actually bringed new stuff to the table AND acted and looked like The Joker, while being his own thing different from other Jokers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:12:27 No.109925306 Report

Quoted By: >>109925412

>>109925259
Batman and Tales from the Borderlands showed Telltale was finally hitting a stride for good writing. Shame they went too big on projects and then collapsed.

Their Batman story is still one of my favorites in recent memory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:13:15 No.109925317 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925208
I know it's hard for your DCuck brain to comprehend but calling you out for your obsession with a fucking hack who hasn't been involved with your shitty movies in like 5 years doesn't make me a supporter or defender of his

And your last two movies did neither but being the DCuck you are I'm sure you don't remember that Aquaman wasn't the most recent DC movie

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:13:26 No.109925320 Report

Quoted By: >>109925359 >>109925503

>>109925226
You want another one? Take a look at this. Different Interpretation, Different Backstory and Design, and you can still say "This one looks and acts like The Joker while being his own thing and respecting the source material"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okx_-z9G9QY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:16:05 No.109925359 Report

Quoted By: >>109925393

>>109925320
cringe

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:16:44 No.109925369 Report

Quoted By: >>109925503

>>109925226
Now, in a perfect timeline, where people like Philipps or Snyder couldn't even touch this characters because they just don't care, we would've got THIS as a Joker Stand-alone film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BW0JM_ktAU

A slow descent into madness from a Psychiatrist while interviewing The Joker and playing with a conection between them, and also on his possible origins as short stories

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:18:10 No.109925393 Report

Quoted By: >>109925400

>>109925359
What happened? Where did all your Reddit-esque pretention go? This is all you have to say? You didn't expect to come with actual arguments and examples on new brand interpretations that still do Joker justice, right?

Get out of this fucking board and go back to /tv/, and enjoy your King of Comedy remake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:18:46 No.109925400 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925393
I will.
Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:19:31 No.109925412 Report

Quoted By: >>109925652

>>109925306
They resurrected thanks to being purchased by another company, so there's possibilities that someday we will get a Season 03.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:20:36 No.109925428 Report

Quoted By: >>109925445 >>109925478

>>109925259
>>109925287
So there is nothing fresh or effective about the scene where he shoots Alex Baldwin linked in the trailer? It being live action and a new actor with a new setting and behavior? Where has this character done these things before? And it reaply is important that its a movie. There still has literally never been a Joker live actiom standalone movie before, so why not get a good actor to play out a live action story that lets the joker's cruelty and terror shine? Does the first joker movie really have to be abput a boy detective version of him, or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:22:14 No.109925445 Report

Quoted By: >>109925510

>>109925428
Alec Baldwin isn't in the movie and that's not a trailer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:23:57 No.109925478 Report

Quoted By: >>109925569

>>109925428
>Where has this character done these things before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYNDHuH6MNA

>There still has literally never been a Joker live actiom standalone movie before, so why not get a good actor to play out a live action story that lets the joker's cruelty and terror shine?

You stand correct here. I want to see a live action story where The Joker can act like The Joker, with his cruelty, his jokes (Think about it as "Joker's Favor" but intensified to x50). Problem is, this isn't that story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:25:44 No.109925503 Report

Quoted By: >>109925589

>>109925320
>>109925369
How do these invalidate a close up of a disenfranchised abuser? Like seriously you think naming other ideas just automatically destroys this one? How about a nice normal joker movie about the realistic human terror and abuse people aee wary of in their daily lives? Why is it so unacceptable to let acting and moviemaking shine in a story relevant to the audience? what they are, and not an epic tale of a some dreamed up comic book sfx mental illness?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:26:14 No.109925510 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925445
I mean DeNiro sorry you know they have fat heads

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:31:04 No.109925569 Report

Quoted By: >>109925603 >>109925683 >>109925719

>>109925478
Thats a cartoon dumbass, this movie is made for moviegoers who like to watch live actors act and emote on screen, rather than cartoon fans who enjoy illustrative symbols drawn in mimicry of life. I love cartoons, but to say that cartoon Joker there putting cartoon gas or red #20 blood on the Bruce Timm inspired drawings, is in any way invalidating to live action Joaquin Phoenix sweating and going pale as he leaps across the room like a goblin and the opens the spraying blood vessels of his human target, is ridiculous and the stuff of people who don't do love action movies. I bet your favorite movies are cartoons

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:32:00 No.109925589 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925503
>How about a nice normal joker movie about the realistic human terror and abuse people aee wary of in their daily lives?

Do you even know who the fuck is The Joker or you just read Killing Joke and watch TDK? Serious question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:33:03 No.109925603 Report

Quoted By: >>109925668

>>109925569
>Thats a cartoon dumbass
It's literally a movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:33:48 No.109925613 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916852
If that's what he was, Batman would have stopped him easily ages ago.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:33:59 No.109925619 Report

Quoted By: >>109932277

Where's Captain Clown?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:34:07 No.109925622 Report

Quoted By: >>109925690 >>109930249

People here are ignorant of style, and think 'sad batman', 'space batman' and 'red batman' are the peak of variety, so they dont really see the blaring hot sun and shadow contrast, the oppressive color grading of the film, the focus on human facial tension and a psychosomatic physical reactions on the body from emotion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:35:50 No.109925652 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925412
Hopefully it'll carry the same writing caliber

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:37:17 No.109925668 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925603
I specifically said live action movie, and due to your poor comprehension you STILL dont understand that post, and protest my the simple argument that live action movies are good for live action movie reasons, not for late-game cartoon print iconography reasons

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:38:06 No.109925683 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925569
>I bet your favorite movies are cartoons
The fucking state of /co/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:38:29 No.109925689 Report

Quoted By: >>109925824

>>109922957
>>109924545
Mostly this. It goes like
>be creator, have a premise
>know premise is too shit to stand on its own, but that's what you want to make
>hijack something established and use it as a wrapper around the premise to bait people that like the established thing
>????
>profit
It's a move that stems from not having enough faith in your own idea.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:38:29 No.109925690 Report

Quoted By: >>109925760 >>109925777

>>109925622
It's just too in the face, you know. You don't even try anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:40:22 No.109925719 Report

Quoted By: >>109925830

>>109925569
You asked for an example of when this exact scene was done and was provided one, that 'cartoon' was also from the comic slightly modified, but had the same themes presented in the movie. The problem is that the cartoon is doing a better job with the character than the live action in portraying the same idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:42:05 No.109925738 Report

Quoted By: >>109925771

>>109924879
Some characters are pointless when handled realistically. 99.9% of comic characters fall into that category.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:43:44 No.109925760 Report

Quoted By: >>109925801

>>109925690
You've got nothing but base tribalism and a liar's sense of cartoon fandom to back you up. You rely on a faulty sense of me not being welcome, accusing me of coming from a site I have never been, because I will not let your cartoon defensiveness supersede my multimedia point. Go read another thousand joker comics and tell me how sick you are of it all, you icon addict.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:44:20 No.109925771 Report

Quoted By: >>109925801 >>109925844 >>109926133

>>109925738
The Joker is not one of them, because anarchic self-pitying gunmen seeking to make a statement about chaos literally do exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:44:51 No.109925777 Report

Quoted By: >>109925801

>>109925690
Why do you speak of cartoon as if it was cancer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:44:55 No.109925778 Report

Quoted By: >>109925816

It's funny because Batman became a symbol, you had retarded Burton batman, you had Batfleck, you had Nolanbats, Beyond Batman, Arkham Batman, etc. All of them with different backstories and motivations, they all eventually became Batman.
Joker's joke is that he was a normal loser until a bad day broke him. Killing Joke did it, Nolanbats did it, both of them different and both of them believable. Here come this fag and does the exact same shit and you get analblasted.

We live in a society where Joker became a symbol too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:45:17 No.109925783 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
Why is Oswald from Gotham playing the Joker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:46:16 No.109925801 Report

Quoted By: >>109925896 >>109925941

>>109925777 meant to >>109925760

Also, this right here: >>109925771
This. Right. There. That's what I was talking about: People who think The Joker is something when it's not that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:47:20 No.109925816 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925778
>Nolanbats did it
It literally didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:47:53 No.109925824 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925689
This. It's just like the Robocop remake, where there's a stronger story struggling underneath all the brand name bait and winking at the audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:48:20 No.109925830 Report

Quoted By: >>109926537

>>109925719
The cartoon literally isnt better than the movie. They both do completely different things conpletely different ways to achieve completely different effects on the audience using different mediums. The live action Joker scene is meant to instill the terror in the audience of seeing a real man murdered on a realistic convincing talk show, and the love action takeover of a crazed gunman of the media, relevant to the modern worry about mebtal health spilling over into social chaos. Yours is a takeover scene to show the Joker getting the upper hand in a reign of terror shortly before being stopped by batman who is not even a character in this fucking film

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:49:30 No.109925844 Report

Quoted By: >>109925984

>>109925771
>The Joker is not one of them, because anarchic self-pitying gunmen seeking to make a statement about chaos literally do exist
perhaps but a few of them are emulating the Joker, and generally they get out one big mass shooting before they're killed or captured. They don't become supervillains with a troop of henchmen carrying out their orders.

There are supervillains with a troop of henchmen carrying out their orders. They're called governments and every nation-state has one, and every city with more than one stoplight has another one. You might have seen videos of them killing people and the subsequent news stories of them being put on paid leave, then acquitted of all charges or reassigned to a desk job.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:49:41 No.109925847 Report

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Joker? More like Mediocre!

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:49:47 No.109925851 Report

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>>109916251

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:52:45 No.109925896 Report

Quoted By: >>109926012

>>109925801
I love cartoons, I fucking make them. I don't love when people obsessed with one medium overtpy deny the value of another one, as though they were merely interchangable and not entirely unique storytelling interfaces with with different meeds appeals and options. This guy wants a cartoon of Mark Hamill playing a joker who is fatter and worked on an airplane instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:55:44 No.109925941 Report

Quoted By: >>109926012

>>109925801
Why, becayse your pea brain demands another cooky rube golberg mystery? Joker has beem killing innocent people in their homes as an anxiety reaction to his surroundings for a hundred years. Everyone and their mother wondered why they never talked about the terror of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 14:58:55 No.109925984 Report

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>>109925844
>haha a clown themed mob leader seeking to punish society with murder and torture? What a dumb character it should be about an evil politician isntead
So are you the type of person who would say 'we do t meed a joker movie, what we need now is a movie about the evil of Lex Luthor'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:00:55 No.109926011 Report

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>>109917472
>So it's about Joker sure but the Joker isn't eye candy so he's not going to bring in girls.
Girls love damaged guys, as soon as Elliot Rodger killed people girls suddenly found him cute. Every male serial killer has tons of horny female fans sending fan mail. I've seen a lot of people call Joker cute based just on these leaked clips.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:00:55 No.109926012 Report

Quoted By: >>109926059

>>109925896
>This guy wants a cartoon of Mark Hamill playing a joker who is fatter and worked on an airplane instead.

I literally never said that, stop putting words in my mouth. It's a shame such talent is going down the sewer with such an austistic faggot that can't realize that some people want characters to stay in-character, fucking moron.

>>109925941
>Joker has beem killing innocent people in their homes as an anxiety reaction to his surroundings for a hundred years.

Nice headcanon right there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:03:22 No.109926044 Report

Quoted By: >>109926053

>>109924560
>this is worse case scenario for comic fans. we're going to get at least 10 fucking years of edgelord SOCIETY joker now in the comics
As opposed to the ten years of just plain edgelord we've been dealing ever since the New 52 started?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:04:20 No.109926053 Report

Quoted By: >>109926071

>>109926044
Not same anon, but equally worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:04:52 No.109926059 Report

Quoted By: >>109926102

>>109926012
Joker randomly kills and terrorizes people out of a twisted sense of humor and an egomaniacal idea of being above others. Thats what he's doing here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:05:51 No.109926071 Report

Quoted By: >>109926114

>>109926053
If someone comes by witg a new idea then that will succceed and take over, yet you guys blame the new take for not also being THE NEXT new take that defeats it! Ridiculous. Do you see where you might be pathologically negative?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:06:58 No.109926080 Report

Quoted By:

'Oh great, something new, I cant wait to get sick of it, ugh why do they keep doing this'
Mentally ill chuldren

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:08:20 No.109926102 Report

Quoted By: >>109926157

>>109926059
>Thats what he's doing here.
>randomly kills and terrorizes people out of a twisted sense of humor and an egomaniacal idea of being above others.

Anon, for the last time, he LITERALLY isn't, for fuck sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:09:38 No.109926114 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926071
I literally praised Telltale's Joker up there, you faggot. You STILL miss to understand THE FUCKING POINT THAT EVERYONE HERE GETS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:11:10 No.109926133 Report

Quoted By: >>109926221

>>109925771
But that's not the Joker, that misses a ton of what the Joker is. The joker isn't a core of anarchic self pitying gunman with a white greasepaint wrapping. He is as much of a clown as he is a self-pitying gunman. Using the clown mostly as an extra to the self pitying gunman with a boner for chaos core misses Joker's point. (And I won't call him anarchic, because everyone who does, hasn't read Bakunin )

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:12:53 No.109926157 Report

Quoted By: >>109926263

>>109926102
The Joker lives outside of society because he demands the right to kill and hurt people on a whim based on his emotions and humor. Thats what he's doing here and thats what he's always done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:18:48 No.109926221 Report

Quoted By: >>109926270 >>109926579

>>109926133
Are you kidding me? He was self-pitying in TDK, in TDKR comic he goes into a depressive stasis without an enemy to pit himself against. Just because he didnt cry doesnt mean his entire psychology isnt always an ego overreaction to everday dullness and trouble. He shoots people to get to the front of lines, he cries and fears authority when Scarecrow gasses him, he's stolen candy from babies and scarred women just because society doesnt want him to, he does all this shit but people don't get it because they don't always make the comic all about that, except when they DID with The Killing Joke, which everyone loves!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:22:07 No.109926255 Report

Quoted By: >>109926279

Also he seems very confident in this movie, I think you got memed on that this is an once joker. He's an abuser joker who dances as he takes over a tv show live.
Also the idea people kill others for no reason is entirely fictional

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:22:29 No.109926263 Report

Quoted By: >>109926293 >>109926328

>>109926157
IT LITERALLY ISN'T KILLING ANYONE ON THIS FUCKING MOVIE EXCEPT THOSE WALL STREET GUYS, THE FAT GUY AND ROBERT DE NIRO, THE "JOKER" OF THIS MOVIE DOESN'T DEMAND TO KILL OR HURT PEOPLE, HE KILLED THOSE GUYS BECAUSE THEY MADE HIM FEEL BAD AND JUST BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:22:56 No.109926270 Report

Quoted By: >>109926324

>>109926221
The clown/performer act is a core, not a wrapper, is what I'm saying. He is self pitying, but not consciously so. Unless you manhunter-brainwash him or you lasso of truth him, you won't get him to admit his life is sad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:23:35 No.109926279 Report

Quoted By: >>109926358

>>109926255
>Also he seems very confident in this movie, I think you got memed on that this is an once joker

The script was leaked weeks ago, come back to reality and stop with your headcanon shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:24:37 No.109926293 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926263
Yeah, that too. A "fair" joker isn't joker. He'd only make a speech about the downtrodden working class in front of a businessman, if he ends up shooting his secretary, not him. A joker who kills those he thinks deserve it, isn't joker. Joker shouldn't care who deserves what.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:27:06 No.109926324 Report

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>>109926270
>He is self pitying

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:27:21 No.109926328 Report

Quoted By: >>109926360

>>109926263
How is that different than The Dark Knight Joker plotting to scar a politician and kill the loved on of Batman because he offends his sense of anarchy and authority? Or kidnapping and raping the Commisioner as well as paralyzing his daughter to shock society the way he had been shocked, only for him to break down in crying regret that he only does this because he himself was hurt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:29:00 No.109926358 Report

Quoted By: >>109926421

>>109926279
He seems as confident as poasible when he dances down tbe stairs and happily kills DeNiro on his show like the character has done many times before. Remember The Killing Joke Joker is also trying to traumatize society because he is offended it had traumatized him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:29:16 No.109926360 Report

Quoted By: >>109926460

>>109926328
You need to read/watch more Joker stories than "Killing Joke", it ruined your perception of the character beyond salvation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:31:01 No.109926380 Report

Quoted By: >>109926949

>>109916337
It's Italian you dumbfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:31:57 No.109926393 Report

Quoted By: >>109926466

>>109922343
>if you're not gonna be even a slightest bit inspired by the source material?
It's clearly inspired by the Killing Joke, it's just not following the same plot beat-by-beat. Surprise, films work differently than comics and should have different plots even if they share the same themes.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:32:49 No.109926400 Report

Quoted By: >>109926413

>>109925012
You can plug for ears and say it's not a DC movie all you want, but it is...

...and since this is what you're really after, here you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:33:51 No.109926413 Report

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>>109926400
>for
your

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:34:30 No.109926421 Report

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>>109926358
>happily kills DeNiro
>happily

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:37:11 No.109926454 Report

Quoted By: >>109928878

>>109916842
>watched Batman 1989 last night
>Joker is actually a competent mastermind

No he wasn't. And white male rage joker is vastly more interesting than 89 or leto's nigger gangster joker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:37:27 No.109926455 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
train scene clip
https://files catbox moe/c332w3.mp4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:37:36 No.109926460 Report

Quoted By: >>109926483

>>109926360
You mean the iconic and most popular Joker one-off, loved for its thematic breakthrough into the realistic self-pity mentality of criminals and abusers, The Killing Joke? Yeah, its good because it does away with the childish delusion that killing people for sheer humor or 'randomness' is even possible. The book that gifted The Joker with a relevant character instead of being a guy who makes puzzles for Batman? A character worthy of making a movie over?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:38:08 No.109926466 Report

Quoted By: >>109926529

>>109926393
>films work differently than comics

That doesn't excuse disrespecting the source material in such level that The Joker isn't The Joker anymore and instead it's Le Clown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:39:12 No.109926483 Report

Quoted By: >>109926559

>>109926460
I meant the mainstream one, yeah. That Killing Joke. The one that some people read and later claim to know the character 100%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:39:34 No.109926490 Report

Quoted By: >>109934789

>>109924560
mcu shills are really getting scared lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:42:32 No.109926529 Report

Quoted By: >>109926592

>>109926466
There's no disrespect. Nothing about this is disrespectful

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:43:00 No.109926537 Report

Quoted By: >>109926608

>>109925830
Then you havent watched the scene or dont remember it properly, because the TDKR scene is doing the same exact thing, especially in the comic. The reason why i say the cartoon handled it better is because DeNiro's just bullying Arthur until he snaps while the psychologist is actually talking about the Joker being a victim while Joker waits for the right moment of his punchline. TDKR builds more tension while the live action is more blunt because its two people yelling at each other. The payoff is also stronger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:44:07 No.109926559 Report

Quoted By: >>109926609

>>109926483
The one that iconically establishes The Joker is a self-pitying character seeking reparations for his own trauma, the one that introduced and established the ideas used in this film

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:45:32 No.109926579 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926221
Him and Harley huff fear gas like its nothing. Its annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:46:13 No.109926592 Report

Quoted By: >>109926688 >>109937428

>>109926529
You're wrong. You would know if you actually read more stories of the character besides that one.

But whatever dude, it doesn't matter if someone else says you step by step why you're wrong, you won't care. and as long as people like you exists, a lot of people will never see characters like Superman, Spider-Man or The Joker as they're supposed to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:47:37 No.109926608 Report

Quoted By: >>109928050

>>109926537
DeNiro ismt bullying him, DeNiro is literally correct and he's displaying a rational anger towards a murderer actively showing no remorse. Fleck is being pathologically self-pitying when he says 'you brought me here just to attack me'. Fleck is a weaponized murderer attempting to fan the flames of chaos hoping to commandeer the public via a stolen guest spot on a TV show. DeNiro did nothing wrong by sternly asking him to acknowledge the consequences

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:47:40 No.109926609 Report

Quoted By: >>109926708

>>109926559
Again, please, PLEASE, stop with your headcanon, it's not funny anymore. What disturbs me the most it's that none of this 123 faggots in this thread dares to point your fuckery besides me.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:51:18 No.109926659 Report

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>>109916114
RDJ is going against THIS? that manlet had no chance lmao. Poor Marvelcucks..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:53:31 No.109926688 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926592
All you're saying is the Joker shouldn't cry and he wpuld never kill people for a plot. Its not true. Killing Joke literally happened, pathologic self-pity is a canon interpretation of his character. He targets

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:54:50 No.109926708 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926609
You can pout and say no all you like, The Killing Joke is a beloved interpretation of a self-pitying Joker who targets authority figures to instill anarchy on society in revenge for trauma, and he cries while doing jt

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:55:22 No.109926719 Report

Quoted By: >>109926735

>>109924837
Do not question. Just consume product and be excited for fresh takes on product.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 15:56:22 No.109926735 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926719
>this generic shit
Its not fucked up

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:06:19 No.109926901 Report

Quoted By: >>109926959

>>109917472
>muh fans will not
Shut the fuck up. I'm a huge fan of the Joker and this adaptation is looking to be a fresh unique take on the jokers origins. "The fans" are not a monolith.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:07:59 No.109926920 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917617
>this joker isn't what i would write therefore it's bad
I mean...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:09:00 No.109926934 Report

Quoted By:

>>109917764
>different bad
okay grug

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:10:47 No.109926949 Report

Quoted By: >>109926951

>>109916516
>>109926380
What's the difference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:11:25 No.109926951 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926949
Body hair

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:11:44 No.109926959 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926901
This. This whole thread has been spergs seething over their own villain worship, denying and ignoring the content of their character's most popular piece (without giving a shred of evidence why) so they can call contradiction, when everything all of their favorite Jokers do is also done in this movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:15:45 No.109926999 Report

Quoted By:

>>109919380
>55chan
saia gorderadora

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:17:25 No.109927013 Report

Quoted By: >>109927069 >>109927094

People who call this character assassination have zero leg to stand on and this thread proves it. Their arguments were that The Killing Joke did not happen because it doesnt support their argument that Joker must only be a strong winner who is right in his personality disorder, and thaaaaat... what else? That it corrupts the pure Joker and robs a generation of his glory? Empty words no one has been able to argue

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:21:45 No.109927069 Report

Quoted By: >>109927110

>>109927013
Actually the problem with this Joker is that he’s mentally disturbed BEFORE his “Bad Day”. A part of Joker’s character is to mirror Batman in the sense that a great tragedy can either inspire a man to do good or spiral them downward into a pit of madness and violence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:24:14 No.109927094 Report

Quoted By: >>109927151

>>109927013
The last part it's true. Out of 126 anons in this thread, only 2 or 3 care to try to argue with you, the other faggots are just watching or they flied away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:25:07 No.109927109 Report

Quoted By: >>109928390

>>109916251
I.. I don't get it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:25:09 No.109927110 Report

Quoted By: >>109928100

>>109927069
True, yet an interesting twist to have The Joker be the cause of his own bad day. It touches on how people can delude themselves into feeling justified in hurting others. That change is the appeal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:29:04 No.109927151 Report

Quoted By:

>>109927094
You're being coy in acting like people will forget the Joker at large because of this movie, in denial about the ingredients of the joker as well as how tbey appear in this movie, and have no reason to believe consensus is in your favor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 16:38:12 No.109927263 Report

Quoted By:

Also, the stark contrast between the classic cartoonish Joker and this more tangible Arthur Fleck is intentional, for effect. It is, how you say, the point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:26:48 No.109928050 Report

Quoted By: >>109928134

>>109926608
Of course he isnt wrong. He IS an idiot for taking things too lightly and agressively questioning him for to put on a good show however for ratings, which is what i meant by bullying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:29:08 No.109928100 Report

Quoted By:

>>109927110
That isnt new. Even Killing joke has Bats point that out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:30:52 No.109928134 Report

Quoted By: >>109928464

>>109928050
Handling him with baby gloves would be unrealistic to how these disorders play out in life. They could have done the Harley therapy thing and have someone delve into his psychology, but really the theme here is untreated personality disorder, so you don't really need to make the public extra innocent for the scene to work

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:31:59 No.109928157 Report

Quoted By:

>>109923069
>implying /co/ isn't gay

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:44:46 No.109928353 Report

Quoted By: >>109928402

Fuck this movie.

I wanted a Joker film for /years/.

...now we've got a Joker who's FAR older than Bruce, but has a direct hand in creating Batman?

Bruce is like.. 10 in this film? We're going with Joaquin's age in considering Arthur Fleck, so Fleck is AT LEAST 40?

So this means that The Joker is 60 while Batman is at his peak at 30. What the fuck is that? No tying into a greater DC Universe? So the DCEU is just a bunch of one-off Elseworlds stories, with no cohesion, pretentious writing, and ... nothing?

Something tells me I'm going to have a lot more problems with this film than enjoyment. Also, like, beating a dead horse here, but they seriously fucked up by not tapping me as an actor or screenwriter for this.

You don't know rage until you're born into a country that treats you like you don't deserve basic consideration or humane treatment, with everyone laughing at you at every single stage of your life.

#loltryhard

yeah, yeah

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:46:45 No.109928390 Report

Quoted By: >>109928423 >>109930062

>>109927109
Reference to Hannibal Buress of The Eric Andre Show, recently hailed by randoms as being one of the ""smartest"" comedy shows in the last ten years.

The schtick is Eric comes out, blasts Hanni 7 times with a piece, and asks the audience "Who Killed Hannibal?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:47:22 No.109928402 Report

Quoted By: >>109928466 >>109928506

>>109928353
Yes its a one-off, its not a Batman vs The Joker movie, and this guy isnt supposed to turn into someone Batman fights 20 years from now, though I suppose they could if it wasnt a standalone. You really seem unhinged for feeling persecuted for not being selected to write this movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:48:19 No.109928423 Report

Quoted By: >>109928506

>>109928390
Do you usually declare slights against you with every post?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:50:41 No.109928464 Report

Quoted By: >>109928561

>>109928134
The scene is already unrealistic with a suspected murderer even being allowed on a talk show discussing current murders in the first place. Also a tv host taking Arthur less serious and not worrying about getting sued if the Audience got hurt is unrealistic. Realism doesnt always make for entertaining scenes though.

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:50:46 No.109928466 Report

Quoted By: >>109928505 >>109928538

>>109928402
>unhinged

That's the gag, you bought it already.

Puh-leeze. Being selected out of NOWHERE to write or act a major DC storyline with a pitiful resume and the shit life I've led?

I was kind of hoping the company behind the characters that inspire people and give them hope would be a lot more benevolent than just "A-LIST ACTORS + SHOCKING STORIES + PANNING CAMERAS = DOLLARYDOOS"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:53:18 No.109928505 Report

Quoted By:

>>109928466
Okay. That's cool man, it just seemed weird you filled your post with tricks and verbal traps, and are now evaluating people's reaction to them

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:53:20 No.109928506 Report

Quoted By: >>109928607

>>109928423
Naw. Well, maybe. Conditioning and abuse takes a toll on every human being, don'tchaknow.

>>109928402
The Joker is not The Joker without Batman.

>this guy isn't supposed to turn into someone Batman fights

>what is 'Joker'
>what is 'Gotham City'

Err.. You ever read a comic book, or nah?

This whole film feels like the elite's attempt at telling a comic book film, without all that comic book rhetoric. Stupid, ridiculous, gross, why are these people allowed to use these characters with ZERO consequence?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:55:41 No.109928538 Report

Quoted By: >>109928660

>>109928466
Hollywood is not benevolent, and even if they were they wpuldn't be selexting you out of your third world country like a divine toy crane to make you the leader of any movie that doesnt sit well with you. Unless you are joking, your hope in hollywood to bring you salvation is a false worship meme, hopefully one you made up just to be coy about not veing american

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:57:09 No.109928561 Report

Quoted By: >>109928751

>>109928464
Hes confronting the talking head on the tv, and killing him in hypocrisy. Its effective and thematic in an exaggerated mental illmess story

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 17:59:28 No.109928607 Report

Quoted By: >>109928768

>>109928506
The studios are in business with the owners of The Joker character, who have granted them glowing lermission to use it in exchange for tons of money. This is endorses by the owners of the Joker of the highest order.
But the movie isnt a betrayal of the character either, Joker does have a purpose beyond Batman and that is to show dangerous personality disorders and clown it up scarily on screen

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:02:34 No.109928660 Report

Quoted By: >>109928753

>>109928538
Hollywood's dead, those bitches film in Canada, China, or England these days.

>Third world country
Lol like I'm in Canada but there's a day or two out of a year where it really feels like I'm living in one here, in the country's *richest* *province*

I didn't suppose Hollywood would save me - I was hoping the forces driving fandom and comic cinema would. I had this idea that I could redeem DCEU if they'd follow my direction (which would consist of assembling a team of adored creators), listen to me, and allow me to be some zero-to-hero for them.

I would literally make Batman and Gotham City my 24/7 365 job, for fuck all but my recognized work and exceedingly basic independent living expenses idfk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:08:05 No.109928751 Report

Quoted By: >>109928775

>>109928561
Not if its a forgone conclusion you see coming the moment it starts, and doesnt even address those things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:08:11 No.109928753 Report

Quoted By: >>109928889

>>109928660
Well sure but you have to admit presence, actual career, and experiwnce project building are paramlunt and it is naturally impossible for a man with no exposure or exoerience in the field to even be known in that world. Yes it may sometimes seem unfair that careers are about who you know, but you din't have a career with them and they dont know you, so it is what it is.

Anyways hero movies don't dictate public behavior anymore, the world is a series of spheres of influence where people may choose to obey the local sphere's shifting decorum as needed. It is what it is. Dont rely on movies

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:09:23 No.109928768 Report

Quoted By: >>109928809

>>109928607
>Movie isn't a betrayal of the character

I'll need to see the film for myself to verify your statement, anon, but a Joker without a Batman is not a Joker, but just a mentally ill lone wolf with a clown motif.

I'm arguing that the Joker does not have a purpose beyond Batman.

"Without Batman, crime has no punchline."

So let's get comfy with the idea that this Joker is yet another uncharismatic A-list blowhard with no real humour and all the reasons in the world to despise everything that moves.

Do we really need another King of Comedy, especially with Gotham dressings?
Do we really need another comic book film where they screw with fundamental lore? The fuck is so hard about

Sympathetic character - Chemical robbery - Batman - Vat of acid - mental looney tunes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:09:45 No.109928775 Report

Quoted By: >>109928941

>>109928751
The conclusion is The Joker is an inconsoloable egotist who will geneeate a reason to murder anyone entirely outof his own delusion, and then write it off as a victory. His claims to argument and ideology are entirely false in the face of his emotional selfish trigger finger

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:11:48 No.109928809 Report

Quoted By: >>109928930 >>109928999

>>109928768
The lunchline in thus movie is that crjme created Batman. This movie ends with The Joker killing Thomas Wayne and creating Batman. They are playing on the Joker-Batman dichotomy by implying Batman is a response to the Joker, rather than Joker being a response to Batman. It piques the original batman theme of necessary vigiliance against the criminally ill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:15:46 No.109928878 Report

Quoted By:

>>109926454
t.zoomer

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:16:13 No.109928889 Report

Quoted By: >>109928963

>>109928753
>It is what it is

That's a superduper piss-poor way of excusing the unacceptable as commonplace, but I get what you're saying.

Guess I'd be more interesting as a corpse, hey? But then.. Well, I figure the world getting a lot shittier without me, for some reason.

I don't rely on movies. In fact, since a large change to my life, I've been relying on random people in the social welfare avenues to deny me food, make fun of me for being born into a crappy position, and watching friends disappear from depression, suicide, and overdose.

It is what it is, hey?

I wish I could shove you into a dumpster to live in for 5 years, and your only entertainment is experiencing each and every disparaging and horrific instance I've endured. But, hey, pending that, who gives a fuck about movies, storytelling, ethics in business, humanitarianism, any of that, we're all just soulless whores for dollars, right?

With much love: go drown in ketchup, I don't need another asinine doofus telling me that the world sucks and I should just let it take me up the ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:17:48 No.109928930 Report

Quoted By: >>109928983

>>109928809
I tell you, this guy will be The Main Defender of this movie here in /co/ or/and /tv/, no matter what.

Seriously, no matter how well other people's arguments are, you still manage to bring more shit to the toilet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:18:32 No.109928941 Report

Quoted By: >>109929019

>>109928775
Something we already know long before that scene, and obvious before him even getting on the show to anyone with a brain. Its why i say its a foregone conclusion and a scene with no tension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:20:31 No.109928963 Report

Quoted By: >>109929009 >>109929171

>>109928889
Thats awesome dude, best of luck to you, I would truly never hope to denigrate you or your position, but your story is designed to evoke pity and now you are wishing pity on others? Are you doing this because thats what the character in tbe movie does? I appreciate the self respect and ambition to know you're worthy of being a movie director despite a life of mistreatment, but you're really doing a lot of begging and bargaining for pity, especially by asking for grand things youknow tou can't have, no? Is this truly the psychology of your mind, or is this a social tactic? What dividends do you seek from me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:21:54 No.109928983 Report

Quoted By:

>>109928930
What, The Joker creating Batman in this movie is intentional. Or do you really think it was an act of negligence? You devided you hated the movie and would allow for no effective interpretation long ago, so whatever

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:22:35 No.109928999 Report

Quoted By: >>109929077 >>109929111

>>109928809
A simple robber created Batman. Stow your artsy avante-garde dogshit in a paper bag where it belongs.

It goes like this, man:

Gotham City is the worst crime-ridden city in America. Desperate bloodthirsty mugger lucks out into holding up Thomas and Martha Wayne. Mugger kills Waynes. Bruce goes on to suffer from alienation, isolation, depression, and fury.
Bruce travels abroad. Forms the idea of Batman. Comes back to Gotham to do what he can on his own to control or cease crime. 'Napier' pulls a robbery on a chemical factory he worked at. Encounters Batman. REEE! Jumps a handrail to escape. Disfiguration.

How is that so difficult for fucking millionaires and adored talent to convey

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:23:45 No.109929009 Report

Quoted By: >>109929106

>>109928963
Yo, Joaquin, that you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:24:42 No.109929019 Report

Quoted By: >>109929158

>>109928941
I loterally did not suspect he had a gun in that scene, and was agreeing with DeNiro's assessment only to be startled by a gunshot that unfairly ended his righteous arguments. The scene worked for me because I was following it as the relationship between the public and a mad gunman. It worked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:27:52 No.109929072 Report

Quoted By:

>>109923845
Get fucked laddercuck

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:28:04 No.109929074 Report

Quoted By: >>109929322

>>109916114
>What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that treats them like trash? You get what you fucking deserve!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:28:37 No.109929077 Report

Quoted By: >>109929171

>>109928999
Its a different story, just like Batman 1989. People's acceptance or annoyance at this is based on how sacred they cinsider the Batman cosmology but really its not such a perfect curation that you should be afraid of doing what if stories

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:30:08 No.109929101 Report

Quoted By: >>109929145

this is a good movie, because it strays from the comic book source.
Comic book joker is trash, cape comics are trash, you may not like it but that's the way things are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:30:34 No.109929106 Report

Quoted By: >>109929145

>>109929009
Yes I've come to shower you with giftsas reparations for being an unsuccessful beggar. Your tacit rage at life certainly supersedes education and operations in the making of these films, and we are sending you a plane to come and write some cool one-ups into our movies

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:30:49 No.109929111 Report

Quoted By: >>109929145 >>109929164

>>109928999
Nobody cares, dude.

Batman and shit are toy franchises for kids and whatever that will exist for the next 100 years and have existed for a long time already. If we don't do these twists on the story and have fun with it it'll get fucking boring. In fact, it has already gotten fucking boring.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:33:24 No.109929145 Report

Quoted By:

>>109929101
>>109929106
>>109929111

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:34:23 No.109929158 Report

Quoted By: >>109929194

>>109929019
I suspected he would kill him because its been his response every time hes pushed to a certain point. Read the script, you start seeing the pattern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:34:53 No.109929164 Report

Quoted By:

>>109929111
This. And the best part is this change effects nothing. They made a small change for theme in a standalone movie, yet spergs claim this is a terrible curse on the world and the property, as if the station of the Joker is a binding life pillar that cant beloved. Lol

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:35:11 No.109929171 Report

Quoted By: >>109929236 >>109929297 >>109932704

>>109929077
I adore Bats89.

You know what worked with Joker making Batman in that film? The time difference. So the guy who killed the Waynes in '89 was in his, say, late 20s at best. ("Hey, Bat-brain, I was just a kid when I killed your parents!")

Bruce was 8-12, meaning a less-than-20 year difference between them. Joker and Bats can have a confrontation without the Clown Prince's hip giving out or something.

A 30 year difference? I understand you might think I'm autistic for raising issue, but, to put it succinctly: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>109928963
Funny this is, I don't know I can't have those things, because I haven't formally been rejected just yet.

Do you know how many problems I need to overcome just to get my foot in the door for an audition, problems place upon me by almost everyone I've ever encountered in my life?

A bloo bloo bloo, I know, "cry more, faggot"

So in spite of all that, I really rely on the people who are capable of telling these stories, and they GLEEFULLY, EGOTISTICALLY continue to FUCK. UP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:36:45 No.109929194 Report

Quoted By: >>109929334

>>109929158
Itsa movie about pathological behavior, what do you expect? Its completely appropriate if you glaned the theme from the script

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:39:19 No.109929236 Report

Quoted By: >>109929715

>>109929171
So you're a pitiable loser who's mental well being relies on the accuracy of movies to old comic books. I admit you're rhetoric is good, but this lore worship is a dead meme and a distracting anti-social vector indicative of your self-admitted incompleteness

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:43:41 No.109929297 Report

Quoted By:

>>109929171
They didnt fuck up, they succeeded by their own standards, kept the IP going according to the needs of the owners, brought a new product to a new market, and sold millions. You deny this is success, and instead cling to icon loyalism, and look where it's gotten you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:45:11 No.109929322 Report

Quoted By:

>>109929074
and people say there isn't going to be a shooting because of this movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:45:58 No.109929334 Report

Quoted By:

>>109929194
I expect it to be less predictable about it for how its raved about. The whole story's rather weak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:46:50 No.109929345 Report

Quoted By: >>109929410

>>109922957
Because it won a Golden fucking Lion, that's why

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:51:18 No.109929410 Report

Quoted By: >>109929445

>>109929345
Something barely anyone acknowledged here or /tv/ until Joker won it. Hell most awards get spat on here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 18:53:40 No.109929445 Report

Quoted By:

>>109929410
Anons are plebs, more at 12.

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:10:24 No.109929715 Report

Quoted By: >>109929817 >>109929894

>>109929236
>Pitiable loser
And?
>Mental health relies on accuracy
No. My mental health relies on Batman. Not taking sperg-shots at Batman-related things that ruffle my jimmies, that I do as a delightful consolation.
>Anti-social
My real-world experience tells me that I'm capable of being -very- social, I just don't, because most people are judgmental, bullying human farts whose stink I don't want to breathe in.
>Incompleteness
Uhm, nobody's complete like ever?

Why do you think Batman continues to be Batman? He's locked in a vicious cycle of venting frustration over the life he should have had that was taken away for petty reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:12:35 No.109929754 Report

Quoted By:

>>109919630
>/co/ is mad about this
Holy shit, I hate you all and I'm glad stupid crap like this makes you butthurt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:16:01 No.109929817 Report

Quoted By: >>109929944

>>109929715
I'm accusing you of falsifying and exaggerating your grievances to lend importance to your underemployed lifestyle, and that you are in bed with thinking ill of the performance of content creators because you lust for their jobs.

And yes, being reluctant to connect with people out of fear of abuse and bullying is ABSOLUTELY anti social behavior (by definition) and your inability to understand that, again, is evidence of an immature perspective designed more for cheap self-gratification than real pursuit of success

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:19:46 No.109929871 Report

Quoted By: >>109929902 >>109934789

>>109924560
So you're mad at this original, fresh take on the character instead of all the copycats? And either way, aren't you asking DC to keep making the Joker you like, as opposed to the one you don't like? Jesus, you're fucking pathetic.
>Why can't they milk the version I like?
Because it has been done to death, if you want the old joker, go watch BTAS or something, holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:21:42 No.109929894 Report

Quoted By: >>109930017

>>109929715
Furthermore you have a steep self awareness of your condition, in such a way that means you do have it under control and are not actually just an innocent victim of an odd poor man's mentality, you arr actually smart enough to self-rule and yet you consciously hang on to superficial greivances, giving yourself permission to seize that cheap satisfaction knowing it is based in nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:22:19 No.109929902 Report

Quoted By:

>>109929871
He's retarded, he's getting mad in anticipating of growing bored of something new

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:24:07 No.109929934 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916114
so............

where is the full movie?
don't tell me that we don't have it yet.

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:24:37 No.109929944 Report

Quoted By: >>109930089

>>109929817
>Falsifying and exaggerating grievances
How. Dare. You. That accusation is wildly erroneous.

And what's your definition of success, Anon?
Selling out to do screwed-up films because you hate Batman but think a criminal in clown makeup is cool?

Maybe flipping the finger to every single adult that believes in wholesome storytelling, and what these characters can mean to people who have nothing?

Take your opinions, print them out, paper-mache them into a butt-plug, and have a seat.

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:28:57 No.109930017 Report

Quoted By: >>109930170

>>109929894
You know that thing you're doing, right now, where you're assessing me whilst simultaneously labelling and judging me?

Yeah, that's why I can't get a fucking job. Because I was stupid enough to shotgun my problems all over my social media, and everyone else was creepy enough to look in and congratulate themselves that their life isn't as revolting as mine, in addition to taking enjoyment in stopping me or steering clear of me.

But this isn't about me.

This is about The Joker.

...Or is this about me, after all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:32:01 No.109930062 Report

Quoted By:

>>109928390
filtered

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:33:44 No.109930089 Report

Quoted By: >>109930114 >>109930118

>>109929944
>flipping the finger!
>selling broken Batman!
Youre so fucking hysterical, everything is a slight to you and this whole time you've expressed insult at your entire life, unprovoked by anything we've said. You throwing another tanteum and claiming to be insulted doesnt disprove that.
Its literally a remake of an older movie re-tooled with a marketable IP. Its interesting because it takes a personal look at joker as a familiar type of human abuser and because Joaquin is really good at acting crazy. Its good business and its interesting enough.
Again, you exaggerate your greivances, to explain your low positiom by saying the world is cruel, unfaiir, and has abused you. Take it ul with the community instead of outwardly seething at Batman rewrites as proof theyre evil for not hiring unknown unappplied 'maybe i wont have to face rejectjon if i never apply' you.

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:35:15 No.109930114 Report

Quoted By:

>>109930089
But anon, all I have are negative thoughts.

;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:35:49 No.109930118 Report

Quoted By: >>109930228

>>109930089
138 anons and no one will shut this man's mouth. What a way to show itself, /co/, no wonder no one takes this place seriously.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:38:29 No.109930170 Report

Quoted By: >>109930203

>>109930017
Every post of yours has been an autobiography, you tell me what the subject of your posts are, namefriend. You literally cant go two posts without vaguely blaming society for hurting you. Again, unprovoked.
Just stop writing anti-social essays demanding special treatment, on facebook or on here. You say that ruined your life, and tou continue to act like this, can you consider maybe you have a toxic attitude and eagerly blame others in a way that makes them not want to worn qith you? Just try ti be stable, ironically, and quit writing batman lore greivance manifestos and embracing erratic comic-obsessed behavior

Mr. Bat

Mr. Bat Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:40:15 No.109930203 Report

Quoted By: >>109930253 >>109930272

>>109930170
...

......

thanks, legitimately?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:41:01 No.109930216 Report

Quoted By: >>109930331

>>109924819
>implying hating /v/edditors and /pol/niggers makes you a tranny lefty
back to twittereddiscordistan, electionigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:41:34 No.109930228 Report

Quoted By:

>>109930118
Because theres nothing to say aboit your 'its not in the comics' complaints. All you can do is state them and hope everyone else gets as offended as you. Theres no argument for why Joker cant be a guy from the 80s who hits women, none at all, except repeatedly stating tjey dont match. And look at you, you beg the others to 'shut me didn't or whatever, what is your point? Do you have message to post or can you only petition your hugbox to write one for you?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:42:41 No.109930249 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925622
>People here

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:42:50 No.109930253 Report

Quoted By:

>>109930203
You're welcome, man. See how there are things more important than Batman lore? Do you see how many options open up when you let to of those useless demands?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:44:18 No.109930272 Report

Quoted By:

>>109930203
Also you said you never applied for a job so you shpuld try that first instead of assuming your facebook is the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:46:36 No.109930314 Report

Quoted By: >>109935852 >>109937709

>>109916114
Anyone has mirrors? Those links are dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:46:54 No.109930321 Report

Quoted By:

The twist is that personality disorder just means you hate people who try to help you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:47:42 No.109930331 Report

Quoted By: >>109930419

>>109930216
So basically you hate 4channers, and are unironically confused as to why you stand out in the worst way possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:49:46 No.109930361 Report

Quoted By:

>>109916427
>taking a character called the joker seriously
retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:53:28 No.109930419 Report

Quoted By: >>109930570

>>109930331
>4channers
>So basically you
You're not even trying to hide it.
Back to social media land, or shut the fuck up and lurk more.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:53:46 No.109930423 Report

Quoted By: >>109930464

Best case scenario for this movie is at the end we find out he isnt really the Joker. He has nothing in common with the established character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:54:11 No.109930425 Report

Quoted By:

>>109925259
Absolutely fucking based
John Doe is objectively the best Joker

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:54:36 No.109930430 Report

Quoted By: >>109930476

I'm just so fucking correct, and not out of arrogance either. Just the regular, rolling correctness a man earns when he responds to new information and honestly evaluates if his responses to them are biased. What is the real value of this Joker lore worship, and is there any argument for it that doesnt revolve around profressing yourself a proudly defensive ultrafan who's well being relies on the Joker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:56:46 No.109930464 Report

Quoted By: >>109930478

>>109930423
Best case is you grow a brain and realize folk characters are variable icons of expression that may appear and behave differently in seperate unrelated stories as needed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:57:22 No.109930476 Report

Quoted By: >>109930657

>>109930430
I don't care about the Joker, nor Batman or DC or hell, even capeshit in general. Personally I just think re-using the same characters over and over changing their stories again and again for the sake of another dime takes away all the value from them over time. I don't like it, especially when it affects stories with closed ends (not that's the case for the Joker, but you get my point)

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 19:57:33 No.109930478 Report

Quoted By: >>109930640 >>109930682

>>109930464
>folk characters are variable icons of expression
>Joker
>a corporate product
>folk character

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:03:19 No.109930570 Report

Quoted By: >>109930595

>>109930419
You basically you hate everything that makes this website good, and think everywhere should be more like /co/mblr.
I bet you unironically use the report button.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:05:12 No.109930595 Report

Quoted By:

>>109930570
>you hate everything that makes this website good
>/pol/
>/v/
Ask how I know you joined post-2016.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:07:20 No.109930626 Report

Quoted By: >>109930675

Imagine the goddamn Joker referring to himself as " a mentally ill loner" unironically

Who the fuck made this movie and who approved it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:07:54 No.109930640 Report

Quoted By: >>109930666

>>109930478
Joker is a widely interpreted 100 year american character and meme, in a multiverse no less. You are such full of horseshit to act like a company man in insisting he must be static

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:09:01 No.109930657 Report

Quoted By:

>>109930476
Thats very agreeable and totally same compared to the batman spergs who complain out of habit yet can't explain the offense

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:09:38 No.109930666 Report

Quoted By: >>109930709

>>109930640
What I told earlier: You always have something up your sleeve, whatever it takes so you have the absolute right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:10:18 No.109930675 Report

Quoted By:

>>109930626
Someone qho was trying to demonstrate that violence and terror is often caused by ramptant self pity

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:10:40 No.109930682 Report

Quoted By: >>109934844

>>109930478
>a corporate product
>folk character

Well yes, for better or for worse the joker is a symbol at this point and far trascends its commercial purposes. Case in point, the cringy fanbase that ended up being the inspiration for the society memes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:13:15 No.109930709 Report

Quoted By: >>109930740

>>109930666
What do you mean, that i always explain my point and elucidate in the face of counterargument? That's how I got to be so right, tempering and adapting my words to better suit my point according to where naysayers accuse itnof weakness. Try it sometime and you can be an ego-free genius too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:15:23 No.109930740 Report

Quoted By: >>109930798 >>109930838

>>109930709
What ego? You're the only smartass around here, you threated everyone who disagress with you as an inferior person. You're not the right person to speak about ego.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:19:19 No.109930798 Report

Quoted By: >>109930873

>>109930740
All in pursuit of righteousness my friend. Surely we can handle naming folly to cast it out. The namefriend actually took my words as harsh but sincere therapy roo btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:21:34 No.109930838 Report

Quoted By: >>109930893

>>109930740
Also yes Joker worship and batman lore policing is literally inferior to behavior recognition and experience with personality disorders. Awaken to justice, you compartmentalized nerd

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:24:03 No.109930873 Report

Quoted By: >>109930937

>>109930798
So you justify your arguing methods by going "all in pursuit of righteousness"? Maybe your points are right or not, but good luck making people like you with that attitude (Which probably you only use on Internet, or maybe has to do with you being a drawfag. Usually artists are cunts in one way or another, it doesn't surprise to meet one like that here).

Besides, expecting your "therapy" to work in a place like 4chan...I don't know if you're too innocent or a bigger smartass than the usual one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:25:34 No.109930893 Report

Quoted By: >>109930959

>>109930838
>Awaken to justice
Are we roleplaying now? How do you want to be taken seriously when you keep acting dramatic as fuck? In Fucking 4chan, of all places?

Something tells me you're more used to be in places like Reddit or /notco/. If this last one is the case, probably we've meet before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:27:53 No.109930937 Report

Quoted By: >>109930967 >>109931013

>>109930873
Im not doing it for likes I'm doing it to patrol the pathetic habit of embracing immature complaintsand ignoring greatereanong in the name of nerd cred. Now you're the one trying to make things uo to hurt me because you wrongly assume I am doing this out of elitism and pride. It wont work. 'You may be right but youre not friendly' lol wtf even is that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:29:07 No.109930959 Report

Quoted By: >>109931033

>>109930893
Cute. Not really an arhument though. I do enjoy my flavor its true, and evangelical language helps people to take a point a little more seriously

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:29:32 No.109930965 Report

Quoted By:

>>109922945
No. You've said this a bunch the past couple weeks and it's dumb and wrong. You should stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:29:39 No.109930967 Report

Quoted By: >>109931175

>>109930937
Greater meaning*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:32:28 No.109931013 Report

Quoted By:

>>109930937
>in the name of nerd cred
You try to (apparently) defend the "nerd cred" and you ironically become a bully.

It's obvious you're not doing this to get likes (Here in 4chan those don't have meaning at all), but saying you're not doing it for pride or just to proof you're the smartest of the room would be bullshit. The way you speak to everyone here makes that too damn obvious that it actually hurts, if you can't see that that's your problem.

Like, I have tons of friends who are hyped for this movie, and they now what I think about this flick, and yet they aren't disrespectful fucks like you (Again, you probably act like this because you have no voice out of here, or no one seems to get your inteligence or something).

Nerd cred, lol wtf even is that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:33:50 No.109931033 Report

Quoted By: >>109931204

>>109930959
>evangelical language
Seriously, you can't say you're not an arrogant smartass. The more you keep talking about it, the most obvious it gets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:41:37 No.109931175 Report

Quoted By: >>109931225 >>109931303

>>109930967
>ironically become a bully.
Why do you think I care about this? This is what I'm talking about, this isn't your fucked up bully/nerd dichotomy. Like I need to be careful and sensitive to be right. I am literally preaching the superiority of getting over

I don't even know what your opinion is, yet you feel targeted anyways. This part of the thread I've said nothing except that batman lore policing is objectively inferior to accepting theme and the role of characters in achieving that.

I bet your opinion is fine, great even. I literally don't even care if people like this movie. I have literally made no argument in this thread except that batman lore policing and joker worship are useless busted concepts, and any prolonged rejection of that is habitual bad behavior. I gravely chastise people who retreat to whining it doesn't match the comics, because 1. it doesn't matter 2. it actually does match the comics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:43:36 No.109931204 Report

Quoted By: >>109931259

>>109931033
I'm throwing around a lot of high falutin language, but everything I've typed was chosen consciously, and the phrase 'evangelical language' was specifically chosen to mean 'words that create aggressive pressure to change your way of life or thinking'. So now what happens, when calling me arrogant doesn't hurt?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:44:48 No.109931225 Report

Quoted By:

>>109931175
preaching the superiority of getting over batman lore policing and joker worship*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:45:50 No.109931238 Report

Quoted By: >>109933043 >>109933535

i cant believe they actually had him say society

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:47:22 No.109931259 Report

Quoted By: >>109931449

>>109931204
>So now what happens
Nothing. What did you expect, to keep going with your fuckery? It's been a nice day, perhaps someone else keeps going or everyone will keep ignoring your replies, as I should've done earlier. I don't know, wanted to make sure this wasn't bait or something, but it seems you're 100% serious about everything. Have a nice day, I hope you recover soon.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:48:52 No.109931287 Report

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>>109919380
>The guy in the back laughed at the joke
/ourguy/

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:49:56 No.109931303 Report

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>>109931175
>have literally made no argument in this thread except that batman lore policing and joker worship are useless busted concepts
Only because its not fellating your 'its different so its better' argument that you've wasted all these posts on. You dont care about the character, so this is just egotistical whinging at those who dont agree with your attitude.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:53:06 No.109931347 Report

Quoted By: >>109931449

Furthermore, the comic book community especially on 4chan has been coddled to such a degree that they actually think they can cry 'bully' and claim it is their role as a fan to flatly not accept changes, even if they can't explain why (comic book fans will also refuse to explain themselves and then smugly blame the subject for not understanding). These people deserve to be yelled at as it is the only way to reach them, as they have cloistered themselves in a protective diplomatic shell they falsely believe entitles them to mercy for their own longstanding meekness. Cowardice. No amount of compromise entitles you to freedom from harsh words that speak the truth. If you care that Joker is misrepresented in this movie, or otherwise not a 'confident' enough anarchist, then you are a baby who needs to grow up.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:56:58 No.109931398 Report

Quoted By: >>109931477

>>109921654
There are people on here who literally do not know that Joker pre-dates Pennywise or who think he was invented for the Adam West show.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 20:59:37 No.109931449 Report

Quoted By: >>109931465 >>109931736

>>109931259
Exactly. Nothing. Your criticism of my language doesn't move me, and that's fine. That's all.
>>109931347
My argument is that taking a close-up of the Joker as a ground-level abuser of people who gains a following of violent selfish people who admire his narrative of persecution and entitlement to violence, is a great use of the character, and these people anxious it doesn't match the comics are low-creative pearl clutching critics who are both skipping an interesting behavioral study due to a weak technicality, but are also largely blind to the appeal of movies, actors, screenwriting, and directing, as all of these these are completely ignored in favor of complaining about things that can only be read from print drawings and wikipedia articles

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:00:11 No.109931455 Report

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>>109923922
You may be right. I've had better conversations about movies on here than /tv/, even the Horrorverse threads.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:00:39 No.109931465 Report

Quoted By: >>109931736

>>109931449
for >>109931303

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:01:41 No.109931477 Report

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>>109931398
Yeah that's crazy how do they not know he is a drawing of vincent price laughing at bat dick tracy?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:15:41 No.109931672 Report

Quoted By: >>109931809 >>109932090

this movie is gonna be responsible for terrible things happening and i hope we finally get violence in movies banned

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:20:14 No.109931736 Report

Quoted By: >>109931763 >>109931801

>>109931449
>>109931465
>a ground-level abuser of people who gains a following of violent selfish people who admire his narrative of persecution and entitlement.
Has already been done before much better than this with Gotham City Imposters. This isnt as new and fresh an idea as you think it is. Hell, Harley started out over the same idea before she became deadpool lite.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:21:55 No.109931763 Report

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>>109931736
Oh, also the Jokerz of Batman Beyond.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:25:22 No.109931801 Report

Quoted By: >>109931905

>>109931736
Yeah so it's fine if they do it for the first live action Joker movie, right?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:26:01 No.109931809 Report

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>>109931672
okay there tipper gore

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:30:03 No.109931871 Report

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I'm ready for some Joaquino.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:32:14 No.109931905 Report

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>>109931801
If you want to settle for a severely weak execution of it, sure.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:34:14 No.109931944 Report

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>>109931905
You've only read the script and the core appeal is Joaquin's performance which has been stellar in all leaked scenes

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:40:55 No.109932058 Report

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FUCK
The page got deleted

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:43:01 No.109932090 Report

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>>109931672
Good luck, mr. president.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:52:26 No.109932261 Report

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>>109919380
I don't know why, but the woman going "OH NO! That's not the type of jokes we do on this show" makes me laugh.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:53:24 No.109932277 Report

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>>109925619
C-Captain Clown is dead, I'm so sorry to be the bearer of bad news J.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 21:57:37 No.109932364 Report

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>>109919380
Well, they really ramped up the gay with the Joker.

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 22:17:32 No.109932704 Report

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>>109929171
MULTIPLE

CHOICE

PAST

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 22:37:03 No.109933043 Report

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>>109931238
they knew exactly what they were doing

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 23:04:09 No.109933535 Report

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>>109931238
Didn't the original script said system instead of society?

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 23:06:45 No.109933589 Report

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>>109933535
No, it was sneed

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Anonymous Tue 10 Sep 2019 23:55:09 No.109934673 Report

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>>109922169
So does deviantart.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 00:00:31 No.109934789 Report

Quoted By: >>109935297 >>109935834

>>109926490
yeah because i criticize something unoriginal i'm a mcu shill, god you faggots are shook about movies. this is bad for comic joker period

>>109929871
> Why can't they milk the version I like?
they haven't milked it at all. jack's joker was jack in clown paint. heath's joker was nolan's REELIZM AGENT OF CHAOS, leto's was HUNKA HUNKA TAT'D GANGSTAR and now we're going full society

> go watch BTAS or something, holy shit.
if only WB execs did, we'd have good films by now

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 00:03:12 No.109934844 Report

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>>109930682
Fuck off to facebook.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 00:22:27 No.109935297 Report

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>>109934789
Why do you hate original content? Comics can get stagnant as fuck, I much prefer it when directors and writers try something new instead of the same old shit.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 00:45:44 No.109935834 Report

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>>109934789
I'm sitting here looking at a good film and I don't know what to tell you besides learn to enjoy movies

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 00:46:32 No.109935852 Report

Quoted By: >>109936544

>>109918165
>>109930314
I found one
https://web.archive.org/web/20190909165946/https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1171058781062651905/pu/vid/720x1280/Ie9iUTwyPVd07oJm.mp4

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:04:05 No.109936174 Report

Quoted By: >>109936663

>>109916114
I'm interested to see where they go with this, but the scene would have come across as far more shocking if it was the punchline to an actual joke setup instead of a pissed off rant.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:16:51 No.109936441 Report

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New TV spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INj792pU_0Q

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:18:55 No.109936485 Report

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>>109936441
Ladderbro will never live this down

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:21:24 No.109936544 Report

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>>109935852
Well, saw that coming a mile away.
Now I went from not seeing the movie in theaters to not wanting to see the movie at all.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:21:54 No.109936555 Report

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Here's a spoiler that differs from the leaked script.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:26:44 No.109936663 Report

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>>109936174
This.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:28:46 No.109936707 Report

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>>109936485
Damn straight.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:30:07 No.109936735 Report

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>>109936441
this is looking like V for Vendetta, but with a villain. and also, stupid current politics, but its the 70s/80s

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:32:07 No.109936772 Report

Quoted By: >>109936822

>>109936735
It won't have half the action as that though, or V's charisma.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:34:16 No.109936822 Report

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>>109936772
thats what i mean tho, but like stupid anon masks and shit

fuck this movies plot.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:34:19 No.109936824 Report

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>>109936544
But he says the s word!

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 01:39:18 No.109936929 Report

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>>109936824
So?

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 02:02:39 No.109937371 Report

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>>109936822
Cope harder.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 02:05:27 No.109937428 Report

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>>109926592
If you read more Joker stories you'd know he's had a dozen different interpretations and origins over the years and one more that won a fucking film festival award and is getting glowing reviews isn't the piss in your cornflakes you're making it out to be you dumb cunt.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 02:20:25 No.109937709 Report

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>>109918165
>>109916114
>>109930314
Midget Scene
https://web.archive.org/web/20190911021745/https://files.catbox.moe/820nah.mp4

Rock and Roll Part 2 scene
https://web.archive.org/web/20190911021845/https://files.catbox.moe/x8atd9.mp4

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Anonymous Wed 11 Sep 2019 02:28:28 No.109937854 Report

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>>109937709
the fuck, did they seriously use the fucking NBA Song (I know thats not the actual title but everyone associates that song with the nba) for the Elevator & Stairs scenes. that is the most retarded thing ever it just kills the entire mood of the movie.

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