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TMNT General: The Turtle Bunch

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 23:29:38 2019 No.109702667 View Reply Original Report

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ITT: What could have been done better?

What could have been done better in 2003? In 2012? The movie? The IDW comics? How much would need to be done better about Rise for it to stop sucking?

ITT: What should April be?

ITT: Which take is the BEST take on TMNT, and why? Could takes be fused into a perfect version?

Or talk about whatever. It's a general!

Comic Mega: https://mega.nz/#F!rxsDTLbL!dglRwuSTwIuBpn9FPEw3xQ

Rise Mega: https://mega.nz/#F!Bk9ngQCA!a1WBsaXCWflniPf-Q1G7QQ

Post any other Megas you've got

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 23:38:08 No.109702822 Report

Quoted By: >>109706039 >>109708587 >>109711684 >>109729078

All I can say is I will never understand /co/'s boner for 2003. It was a bog-standard 90s cartoon for boys, aping the likes of the DCAU with only a fraction of the heart and way less sensible worldbuilding.

"It's a world a lot like ours, but with secret ninja clans, and secret monsters, and secret lost civilizations, and secret aliens. Oh! And also superheroes are real there."

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 23:40:06 No.109702854 Report

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IDW 8s doing April well by understanding that she really shouldn't even be there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 23:43:39 No.109702911 Report

Quoted By: >>109730358

If anything /co/ is spoiled with the turtles. The original concept was never that great, and Mirage never really came together into something with a strong and coherent story. Yet it's been spun off into countless comics, cartoons, movies, games, and for some reason an anime and a sentai show.

All from a shitpost indie black and white comic by people going "what if we did a Frank Miller ninja comic, only with funny animals."

At a certain point you have to admit that the quality is never going to be amazing because the whole thing was held together by the duct tape of "looks neat" from day one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 23:47:58 No.109702983 Report

Quoted By: >>109716332

>improving Rise. Even by TMNT standards it's a sausagefest. April isn't even in most episodes and I don't think there are any female mutants?

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Anonymous Sat 31 Aug 2019 23:58:29 No.109703231 Report

Quoted By: >>109703469 >>109704455 >>109707478

I want more Archie Adventures

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:05:03 No.109703403 Report

Quoted By: >>109703430 >>109703448

The only Turtles that matter.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:06:06 No.109703430 Report

Quoted By: >>109703496

>>109703403
I mean, it was good, but not "burn all other versions" good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:06:55 No.109703448 Report

Quoted By: >>109703472 >>109703645 >>109738496

>>109703403
You accidentally posted the 90s movie and not Bay's

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:07:40 No.109703469 Report

Quoted By: >>109703533 >>109704455

>>109703231
At this point I just want a solid ending. And Raphael reuniting with Ninjara. Fuck that wolf.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:07:56 No.109703472 Report

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>>109703448
Eww, shoo shoo. People with tastes are talking in this thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:08:44 No.109703496 Report

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>>109703430
Ehh, I don't know. I could definitely live with just the first movie.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:09:48 No.109703533 Report

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>>109703469

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:10:57 No.109703562 Report

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>>109703496
It resonates well with everyone I know that loves TMNT.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:15:01 No.109703645 Report

Quoted By: >>109741289

>>109703448
You know what was good? The rifftrax version of that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G13dDthPENg

https://www.rifftrax.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:15:42 No.109703661 Report

Quoted By: >>109703737

so splinter is dying in 100 is shredder gonna come back then as his original self and his descendant is the dragon? and original shredder helps the turtles

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:18:56 No.109703737 Report

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>>109703661
I would pay SOOOO much money for Shredder in Hell to end with Shredder just staying in hell. It's so obvious it's going to end with him coming back that I really really really want it to do the opposite. "Naw dog, he's dead."

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:21:26 No.109703800 Report

Quoted By: >>109722875 >>109742334 >>109746692 >>109755065

>>109702667
>ITT: What should April be?

A girl. That's about all everyone agrees on.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:23:18 No.109703830 Report

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:26:02 No.109703882 Report

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>>109703830
I'm torn between "it hasn't aged well" and "no, they absolutely should look kinda uggo."

I think I'm going to settle on "the boys are turtles, so they should look more moist. They're too dried out!"

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:28:57 No.109703945 Report

Quoted By: >>109703977 >>109704051 >>109709347 >>109709396 >>109713315 >>109722895 >>109731596

Rise is easily improved.

Just needs to play to its strengths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:31:27 No.109703977 Report

Quoted By: >>109704028

>>109703945
She is very attractive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:34:28 No.109704028 Report

Quoted By: >>109704133 >>109730734

>>109703977
That design shoulda been their April. MISTAKES WERE MADE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:35:22 No.109704051 Report

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>>109703945
I like the way you think

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:39:36 No.109704133 Report

Quoted By: >>109704167 >>109726389

>>109704028
Agreed. I'm tired of child April.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:41:34 No.109704167 Report

Quoted By: >>109704233 >>109728317

>>109704133
I'm tired of grown-ass-woman-abandoning-her-life-to-the-whims-of-some-bizarre-teenagers April.

She was a shit walking plot device until 2012, there to be a human that could do human things for them and never asking anything in return no matter how much they fucked up her life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:45:41 No.109704233 Report

Quoted By: >>109704315

>>109704167
Mirage and 2003 April?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:50:23 No.109704315 Report

Quoted By: >>109728317 >>109728682

>>109704233
Mirage is the worst offender at that. The turtles saved her, yeah, but every day she spent with them after that was new things trying to kill her or ruin her life. For some reason she went from being a brilliant programmer to running an antique store to (once the store got destroyed purely due to her association with the boys) eventually becoming the housewife of a lunatic. And finding out she was a drawing brought to life.

At least the original cartoon April could claim they helped her on a regular basis, since her own job put her in harm's way every two minutes.

Say what you will about 2012 April, she hung with the guys for a long time because they were her best shot at getting back her dad. Long enough for it to be believable when she kept hanging out with them after she got him back.

Mirage/2003 April should've helped them a few times before going "guys, I appreciate the time when you saved me from Baxter, but this is just too much craziness."

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 00:57:23 No.109704455 Report

Quoted By: >>109704519 >>109704584

>>109703231
>>109703469
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=61312
They are already making the forever war and the first issue was storytimed here some months ago Ninjara shows up at the end

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:01:12 No.109704519 Report

Quoted By: >>109704578

>>109704455
Wish there was a way for non-backers to buy it. Everyone who found out about it too late is SOL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:04:54 No.109704578 Report

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>>109704519
I bought one copy. Is there a way to scan all of it without tearing the whole comic?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:05:14 No.109704584 Report

Quoted By: >>109704852

>>109704455
Literally more than 20 years in the making.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:21:29 No.109704852 Report

Quoted By: >>109707676 >>109725208

>>109704584
Yeah, never thought I'd see this happening. Turtle fans are really something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:24:56 No.109704913 Report

Quoted By: >>109705518 >>109730790

April's inherent issue is that it's hard for her to stay relevant as the stakes increase.

My solution to that would be, maybe a bit counter-intuitively, keep the stakes a bit lower. Keep it weird, have mutagen, a bit of mysticism, etc- but keep the overarching conflict locked on the fight between the boys and a crime syndicate with shredder at the top. Don't have a full on alien invasion, don't go to space.

Not to say that they should structure the plot AROUND April, I like the idea of it in the first place and it just happens to prop her up, too. Maybe the foot clan could have some of their hooks in the local government/corporations and the guys are generally unpopular because of that with April being a friend in the media subtly advocating for them alongside working support.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:29:42 No.109704991 Report

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Was at a food festival today, and one of the stalls had a very little kid working at cashier. He was wearing one of those hoodies that are basically a costume, with the hood up - Leo's face on the hood, Leo's chest and belt on the rest. Kids are still into the Turtles.

And it was not the Rise design, lemme tell you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 01:57:45 No.109705518 Report

Quoted By: >>109705679

>>109704913
April's inherent issue is that Eastman and Laird first envisioned her as a scientist.

Then they changed their minds and said, no, she ran a store where the turtles could crash.

Then when the TV show came out it said no, she was a reporter.

So just in the very earliest days, three very different jobs assigned to "the turtles' human friend." Makes it very hard to know what's the RIGHT thing to do with her. Should she be a reporter? A scientist from beginning to end? Or a scientist that quits her job to run a store?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 02:04:44 No.109705679 Report

Quoted By: >>109705843 >>109705925

>>109705518
No, the thing is that April does all those things well in the initial bits of a story, but then as things wrap up, what's the point of her sticking around?

If she cares about her own career/life at all and doesn't just cow to the turtles' impulses and follow them everywhere, there's really no sane reason for her to join them in space and on their crazy adventures after a certain point. Having her be a scientist feels a little redundant because Donatello exists, having her become a ninja/psychic kind of removes some of her appeal as a normal person compared to people like casey, but it also means that whenever she's doing some like driving the turtles around or playing support staff, you can't help but think "why aren't they just getting someone else to do this who's actually qualified in a fight?"

In a show where it mainly sticks to a city scale and things like information and spin matter I think you could make reporter april work. Play it like season 1 of daredevil or something.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 02:13:57 No.109705843 Report

Quoted By: >>109706105 >>109731028

>>109705679
This is a big part of why I maintain that 2012 April is best April.

She got rescued by the bros, and that's why she trusts them.
She sticks with them because she needs them (initially) to rescue her dad. And it eventually turns out that she really should be sticking with them because the Kraang are very interested in her.
Her mutation is a combination of immunity to mutagen (which is useful) and low-grade telepathy (which is useful, and provides an explanation for why she can pick up martial arts well enough to be of use in a fight).
They did fuck things up with making the "will they or won't they" thing with Donnie go on forever, but that's the writers trying to milk a plot element forever. The basic character idea was the best approach to April they've had to date.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 02:19:19 No.109705925 Report

Quoted By: >>109706105

>>109705679
The problem is, in Mirage the turtles killed Shredder in the first issue then immediately went to aliens. It's hard to argue that they should just fight thugs and ninjas when practically their entire publication/broadcast history ssys otherwise.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 02:23:47 No.109706022 Report

Quoted By: >>109731075

I'd argue that the easiest version of TMNT to fix would be the Bay movies. They did a lot wrong, but they also did a lot right. They nicely modernized reporter April, and the boys were... not my thing, but sure, they felt like teenagers.

But way too much screentime was given to generic businessman villain, and Shredder having a magnet suit was just stupid. Cut all that crap and just do the Foot as a gang taking shit over, no business ties, and have Shredder be just an incredible ninja, no power armor.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 02:24:51 No.109706039 Report

Quoted By: >>109706578 >>109768353

>>109702822
Hardly, while they had plenty of stand alone episodes, they had a pretty detailed story line and got a lot of stuff past the radar. 2012 was the cartoon for boys, 2003 was an IDW morning love story.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 02:28:35 No.109706105 Report

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>>109705843
She's still ultimately relegated to the sidelines and I'll say that I still think having April be born with special powers kind of mucks with her appeal of being the normal friend thrust into this world of insane ninja crime. I think so, anyway.

>>109705925
have mutants, have aliens, just have them be more of a background/side-threat that get shut down before they can become the main enemy compared to Shredder being a genuinely scary and intimidating crime boss who has his hooks in the mayor and the cops.

IMO the series has always been at its strongest when it seamlessly mixes the the dark martial arts crime stuff with the weird rather than shoving the crime stuff out of the way and immediately focusing on archie-tier weird shit for the rest of the run.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 02:50:55 No.109706578 Report

Quoted By: >>109708587 >>109761748

>>109706039
>Hardly, while they had plenty of stand alone episodes, they had a pretty detailed story line and got a lot of stuff past the radar.

And? They got SOME things past the radar, but for the most part it wasn't that impressive a series compared to what else was on at the time. Not to say that the other series were either, just that /co/ puts it on a pedestal when really it was just following in the footsteps of series that WERE groundbreaking, only with more stilted dialogue and even less skill with "mushy stuff" than even the likes of Transformers (2012's approach to romance was hit or miss to put it kindly, but 2003's handling of Casey and April was straight out of the hack writer textbook).

Gargoyles was amazing. Batman the Animated series was amazing. 2003 was acceptable.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:08:05 No.109707086 Report

Quoted By: >>109731997

Everyone always forgets 2007. It wasn't THAT bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4byl6i1W_QU

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:21:15 No.109707478 Report

Quoted By: >>109709769

>>109703231
Best version of tmnt.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:27:05 No.109707676 Report

Quoted By: >>109707753 >>109707921 >>109724698 >>109724748

>>109704852
Man, the archie guys really couldn't draw splinter

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:29:32 No.109707753 Report

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>>109707676
That's the best drawing of Splinter, you shut your whore mouth.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:34:44 No.109707921 Report

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>>109707676
He looks like a mascot for a fast food restaurant, I still like it.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:48:25 No.109708393 Report

Quoted By: >>109708722 >>109708789

Not long back from deployment, and getting caught up on a lot of things. Dare I ask... how has reaction to "Jennika the fifth turtle" been, here and elsewhere?

Good /co/nnoisseur /co/, or stereotypical comic book guy /co/?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:54:31 No.109708587 Report

Quoted By: >>109710474

>>109702822
>>109706578
What exactly are you arguing? I've never seen anyone claim the 03 series was superior to other cartoons of its era, just that /co/ generally considers it the best animated tmnt series.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 03:58:34 No.109708722 Report

Quoted By: >>109748893

>>109708393
I mean it would depend on where you go

I think mostly whatever, with a sprinkling of reactionary I BET THE SJWs DID THIS forced in by a few maniacs and on other sites a bit of excitement about female rep, that kind of thing.

But mostly just apathy. Jennika hasn't really eched out enough of a spot prior to her mutation for her to really stand out as anything other than a new girl turtle, it's not like if they mutated april or karai or something where it's like WOAH shocking and newsworthy

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:00:46 No.109708789 Report

Quoted By: >>109748893

>>109708393
It's actually been kind of calm, all things considering when you think of the "I hate sjw bullshit."

Even some of the bigger anti-sjw are kind of like "Yeah, this is fine."

It probably helps that even though she is the black sheep, Venus did already give us an idea of "yeah, there could be a female turtle" mentality. It probably helps that they are just simply adding a female character, intead of say turning Leonardo female.

But overall for Jennika...going by issue 97, which is when she gets her headband, she will probably be staying as support character.

Honestly since Tom has stated that Nick doesn't even want to talk about Venus, so it's probably a stripulation to at least not officially make her part of the team. Jenny probably won't stay with the turtles and probably crashes where she doe typically.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:15:53 No.109709347 Report

Quoted By: >>109709552

>>109703945
Oh my gosh, she was so fun to edit! Good times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:16:44 No.109709376 Report

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>>109703830
Imagine if Guillermo Del Toro had been involved.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:17:25 No.109709396 Report

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>>109703945
If they had to brown April, this would have been a much better design

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:21:35 No.109709552 Report

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>>109709347
I love how the one Rise character people gave a shit about and want back is a character that almost certainly won't come back because she has such a small and specific role.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:26:50 No.109709769 Report

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>>109707478

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:38:37 No.109710160 Report

Quoted By: >>109710356

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLCUjPJwo38
>WALK! WALK STRAIGHT!
>TALK! TALK STRAIGHT!
>BE! BE STRAIGHT!
>SEE! SEE STRAIGHT!
>THINK! THINK STRAIGHT!

This was very gay. And bad. Gay but bad music, a rarity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:43:31 No.109710356 Report

Quoted By: >>109711526 >>109712516

>>109710160
where's that pic where oprah asks the guys what they'd do if april was a turtle and one of them says they've already been trying to get april to agree to a relationship

and then it cuts to the expression of the kids in the audience

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 04:46:20 No.109710474 Report

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>>109708587
And I'm arguing that /co/ acts like it was leaps and bounds beyond 2012 and the various comics, when... nah. It had its pluses and minuses, people just tend to only remember the pluses because it's been 16 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 05:16:17 No.109711526 Report

Quoted By: >>109731662

>>109710356
Oh they say way more than that.
I'm pretty sure they say "conceptually that works for me" but the closed captions insisted it was "sexually that works for me," and I can't be 100% sure that's not what the actor said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K53chzo4hWg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 05:21:24 No.109711684 Report

Quoted By: >>109712307

>>109702822
I think most of /co/ were just kids when 2k3 were airing so they love it the best. I think its garbage.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 05:40:07 No.109712307 Report

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>>109711684
Garbage is a bit strong, but I don't know how they wrote that dialogue after stuff like Gargoyles had proven you can DO better.

And I will never get over the first ep, where the lose their lair and immediately find a new one... that happens to be a lost Atlantean outpost or some shit.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 05:47:12 No.109712514 Report

Quoted By: >>109712772

I really don't get why people overthink April.

Her role is to be the turtles' human friend. She can do certain things they can't (like drive them places or talk to other humans), but thematically her reason for being there is to keep TMNT rooted in the real world. When the only characters around are mutants and ninja weirdos it doesn't feel like the story takes place in our world, just out of our field of view. It feels like a weird sci-fi fantasy land. The Nick cartoon is a really good example of this.

I don't mind April having some kind of additional hook to make her more plot relevant (antique store owner, reporter, scientist, hacker, etc), but making her a part of the freak show completely misses the point of her.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 05:47:22 No.109712516 Report

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>>109710356

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 05:57:35 No.109712772 Report

Quoted By: >>109712888

>>109712514
>her role is to be the human's friend
It's a shit role that becomes more and more irrelevant the more you think about it. "She can go places they can't," well, not a whole lot, because they're fucking ninjas so they can actually get into a shitton of places SHE can't. She's at most the designated person that has to walk up to humans and ask questions, but since the boys also know folks like Casey Jones that can ask a question AND fight, she becomes irrelevant fast.

"The human friend" works well in a movie with a two hour or so running time. The longer the story goes after that, the harder it is to justify a human person willing to deal with all the shit that comes with the turtles, and the harder it is to make room for her in the storytelling that makes her important.

Face it, there's a limit to how many stories you can write where a bunch of ninjas need a completely unpowered and untrained woman to walk up to someone and ask questions. Especially if you're trying to make her look important and not just the gopher.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:02:01 No.109712888 Report

Quoted By: >>109713274

>>109712772
Supporting cast exists for a reason. They supplement the story and the cast but they aren't the stars.

What the hell is so wrong with a character that isn't on the screen at all times and isn't necessarily the most important? Why are people okay with Superman having Lois Lane but it's suddenly such a big fucking deal to have a normal human female when it's TMNT?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:18:17 No.109713274 Report

Quoted By: >>109740120

>>109712888
Lois Lane is also Superman's girlfriend. And for a good chunk of the publication history she WAS someone that did things to benefit Superman, but she was also someone that was trying to figure out his secret identity, and was going rogue, even sometimes sabotaging Clark Kent's efforts to investigate things. She could work at cross purposes. And, not to put to fine a point on it, Superman is way better at keeping a "normal human" safe than the Turtles are.

Look, I'm just saying, this has happened in almost all long-running TMNT media. The longer it goes on, the harder it is to keep her from drifting waaay into the background, and the harder it is to explain why she keeps sticking her neck into harm's way for the turtles. There comes a point in every woman's life where she should really be going "I need new friends, these ones keep nearly getting me killed."

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:20:06 No.109713315 Report

Quoted By: >>109713651 >>109713774 >>109714078

>>109703945
I haven't watched Rise of the TMNT since it came out. How is it now? I remember loving the animation but that was it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:34:47 No.109713651 Report

Quoted By: >>109713960

>>109713315
Nothing all that exciting has happened yet besides the reveal of Splinter's past. It hasn't changed much, still 95% hijinks. They did introduce the idea of Shredder and the Battle Nexus though so maybe season 1 will end with something interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:39:31 No.109713774 Report

Quoted By: >>109713916 >>109714228

>>109713315
>How is it now

Frustrating. There's some neat new ideas in there, a different take on the origin, some different directions with personality, much more emphasis on humor... it often feels like it could be good. But honestly it feels like they didn't hammer out enough beforehand, especially for such a major departure from what came before. The writers don't feel like they're on the same page.

Shit, they can't agree on basic worldbuilding facts. Really central ones too.

It could in theory come together eventually, but getting there would be the most uphill treck since The Next Mutation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:45:44 No.109713916 Report

Quoted By: >>109714126

>>109713774
>they can't agree on basic worldbuilding facts

Like? This doesn't seem like a series with hard defined rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:47:38 No.109713960 Report

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>>109713651
I'd argue that we also got the revelation about what Shredder is this time around. Emphasis on "what" not "who."

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:53:10 No.109714078 Report

Quoted By: >>109714211 >>109714440 >>109716447

>>109713315
Donnie is more blatantly a sociopath. In one episode he literally overwrote his brothers' personalities with his own, turning them into copies of himself, because he didn't like them as much as he likes himself. Then he eventually undid it, not because he realized he was a fucking monster for doing something like that, but because he didn't like that he was no longer unique. Fucking hell, this series.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:55:47 No.109714126 Report

Quoted By: >>109726670

>>109713916

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 06:59:30 No.109714211 Report

Quoted By: >>109714325

>>109714078
I....

WHAT?!

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:00:20 No.109714228 Report

Quoted By: >>109714786 >>109716232 >>109716284 >>109731262

>>109713774
>much more emphasis on humor
That's really the biggest issue isn't it?
Whoever is overseeing the writing sure values comedy over consistency. Nick wants a memeable show, not a touching one. Memes and sincere narrative don't mix. It doesn't have to be gritty or dark, in fact I'd rather it not try to be because modern Nick would never execute that correctly. But fuck, it takes literally nothing seriously. Leo nearly dies and it amounts to nothing. Every new episode keeps reminding me of all the wasted potential.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:04:02 No.109714325 Report

Quoted By:

>>109714211
I said, in one episode he literally overwrote his brothers' personalities with his own, turning them into copies of himself, because he didn't like them as much as he likes himself. Then he eventually undid it, not because he realized he was a fucking monster for doing something like that, but because he didn't like that he was no longer unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:09:45 No.109714440 Report

Quoted By: >>109714803 >>109714974 >>109744412

>>109714078
Thank christ someone else sees this. The majority of the fanbase online are teenage girls who want to fuck that sociopath, I guess it's the eyebrows. I was starting to wonder if anyone understands how unlikable his character is now. What the hell happened to Donnie in general? He was intended to be the understanding one. His weapon is a wooden staff because he's a pacifist for fucks sake.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:25:46 No.109714786 Report

Quoted By: >>109716232

>>109714228
>Nick wants a memeable show, not a touching one. Memes and sincere narrative don't mix.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:26:48 No.109714803 Report

Quoted By: >>109714823 >>109715368

>>109714440
not him but, it isn't exactly a normal wooden staff anymore desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:27:53 No.109714823 Report

Quoted By:

>>109714803
That was my point

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:35:07 No.109714974 Report

Quoted By: >>109715337

>>109714440
Ehhhhhh... the whole "pacifist" angle was introduced AFTER the 1987 cartoon was already well on its way. Leo being the leader, Raph being a hothead, and Mikey being a joker were the traits established early enough on to really be solidified throughout the years. With Donnie what got solidified was "does machines" not "pacifist, as much as a ninja can be."

That said, this version takes the "sometimes nerds lack people skills" take of 2012 and turns it up to 11, so he's a flat-out selfish monster. Shit, he got addicted to gaming and stole from his brothers... and it turned out it wasn't, like, a hypnotically addictive game or anything. He just sucked.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:58:00 No.109715337 Report

Quoted By: >>109715491

>>109714974
Pacifist would be a shit trait to be remembered for in an action cartoon, so of course every iteration plays harder into his technical skills. He may be a genius first but out of the four he was still the passive diplomat. And it works great, because he's the foil to Raph's aggressor personality, while Mikey the slacker youngest is the foil to Leo, the disciplined eldest. But
>he's a flat-out selfish monster
I couldn't agree with this more. The game episode really hammered that home for me. I thought for sure I'd see someone, somewhere mention what a dick Don's become in this show but I haven't seen anything. Guess anyone who actually cares wouldn't be watching Rise to begin with.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 07:59:06 No.109715368 Report

Quoted By:

>>109714803
I just can't completely hate that animation though.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:00:09 No.109715383 Report

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:08:37 No.109715491 Report

Quoted By: >>109715635 >>109732102

>>109715337
I mean, I agree that pacifism isn't a good trait for memorability in action cartoons, I'm just saying it's also not a trait in most iterations of the character.
Mirage: Wasn't there in any real way until maybe the Northampton stuff, well after Leo the Leader, Raph the rager, and Mikey the lighthearted one.
1987: Because it wasn't in the early Mirage stuff, didn't show up in this.
Archie comics: Yes, although with Archie everyone could be surprisingly spiritual at times.
1990 Movie: Nope.
2003 cartoon: Yes, they definitely do a little with Donnie wanting to be a pacifist.
IDW: Eh. Varies, but kinda no.
2012 cartoon: Nope.
2018 cartoon: Holy shit, definitely not.

So it's not nothing, but not something there so consistently that its absence stands out as much as, say, Leo not being the leader.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:09:03 No.109715496 Report

Quoted By: >>109715540 >>109715777 >>109716275

Why the fuck Rise is popular among tumblr subhumans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:10:46 No.109715511 Report

Quoted By: >>109715991 >>109716952 >>109721459

>>109702667
>ITT: What could have been done better?
All shit with Raph Shredder from Image vol3
It was great

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:13:44 No.109715540 Report

Quoted By:

>>109715496
It's really not. Check the reblog count vs. what 2012 could achieve. The show has fans there, but fuck, it has fans here. Just not in the same numbers as past versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:20:54 No.109715635 Report

Quoted By:

>>109715491
Considering I was never a fan of 87 or 12, my perception is skewed more toward pacifism for his character. It's not even really pacifism, I think it's more accurate to say he's just the least confrontational. But again, the contrast with Raph works incredibly well in a literary way, it's satisfying.
But, I'm not saying he has to be pacifistic in every single iteration anyway, in fact I was quite enjoying how sarcastic and snarky Rise Donnie was in the beginning. But there's enough calmness in his character's past incarnations that making him a violent, selfish tool out of the blue is really fucking jarring. And to be honest I saw the start of it as soon as Nick got its hands on the IP.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:31:57 No.109715777 Report

Quoted By:

>>109715496
Turtle and monster fuckers mostly. The rest obsess about brother wholesomeness or their own autistic self inserts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:52:40 No.109715991 Report

Quoted By: >>109716028

>>109715511
Image in general was just a slow car crash that had some neat ideas but not enough to hold it together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 08:56:29 No.109716028 Report

Quoted By: >>109719007

>>109715991
I enjoy reading Image reprint more than IDW City at war.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 09:17:13 No.109716212 Report

Quoted By: >>109721607 >>109764269

>>109702667
>about Rise for it to stop sucking?
maybe watch the show instead of bitching about how it doesnt follow the same cannon as the rest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 09:20:19 No.109716232 Report

Quoted By:

>>109714228
>>109714786
You people are too up your ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 09:25:04 No.109716275 Report

Quoted By: >>109723487

>>109715496
ok I like rise.
And before you guys get all up in your heads about it I will at least explainn why I enjoy it.

Basically after we saw small shorts variations of ninja turtles and the fact that multiverse is a thing, all I look at it as another multiverse where things are far different from the original. Like a multivers can have all variations of characters reworked and put out there.
Rise is simply that,
Characters are different and leo and donny stick put more than Mickey and Raph do. Mickey is the weakest in terms of character because of how much pf a hippie he is.

Now terms of animation its more dynamic angles that make it look so good. Then there are the villains that arent black and white type villains just good fun until shredder shows up.
The show isnt terrible but it certainly is not our regular turtles and you shouldnt let that bother you since we have had some many issues of turtles that stick closer to the original more.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 09:25:51 No.109716284 Report

Quoted By: >>109716303 >>109716367

>>109714228
why cant you just have fun, not everything needs to be 2k3 again. jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 09:27:44 No.109716303 Report

Quoted By: >>109716619

>>109716284
Why cant you just have tastes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 09:30:59 No.109716332 Report

Quoted By:

>>109702983
one of the main villains is a female mutant.

outside of that there is Sunita, the three Digg girls, the Foot Recruit, the Purple Dragons Leader. a whole bunch of one episode girl villains as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 09:35:07 No.109716367 Report

Quoted By: >>109716627

>>109716284
Your show is shitting the bed, accept it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 09:46:56 No.109716447 Report

Quoted By: >>109716669

>>109714078
I like unhinged sociopath Donnie, but I'd wish they'd do more with it in terms of making him realise how fucked up he is and how it's harmful to the family. That's pretty much the show in general for me, I want it to get heavy from time to time. Not go full grimdark, but able to take itself seriously sometimes.
Also after that Dig episode I could see Mikey having rage issues and that being an interesting character development and departure from Raph being the one that can't control his anger.
I like Rise, but for a show that had the balls to change things up so drastically it seems too afraid to dig into the characters and start having consequences and growth.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 10:09:45 No.109716619 Report

Quoted By:

>>109716303
I do its called expanding them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 10:10:39 No.109716627 Report

Quoted By: >>109716744

>>109716367
Dobson of all people you have no right to say it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 10:17:04 No.109716669 Report

Quoted By: >>109716938

>>109716447
eh I think the mind meld episode already touched on that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 10:26:40 No.109716744 Report

Quoted By: >>109716781

>>109716627
Not even sure what this means, but take this pity (you) since your show is still a let down

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 10:30:23 No.109716781 Report

Quoted By: >>109716798

>>109716744
>doesnt know what it means
well if you aint dobson a newfag work just as bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 10:32:40 No.109716798 Report

Quoted By:

>>109716781
You can deflect with random internet personalities all you want but your show still blows

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 10:48:34 No.109716938 Report

Quoted By: >>109717318 >>109723685

>>109716669
I'll need to rewatch it, I just seem to recall it being kind of shrugged off at the end like "I'm sorry I brainwashed you and destroyed your personalities because I was annoyed, I'll be sure to not change my behaviour at all"

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 10:50:33 No.109716952 Report

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>>109715511
https://exhentai.org/g/1475597/7103a2cab6/

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 11:14:03 No.109717135 Report

Quoted By: >>109718876 >>109719044 >>109768537

What's the best TMNT cartoon?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 11:36:16 No.109717318 Report

Quoted By:

>>109716938
dont think he said that last part

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 13:48:08 No.109718643 Report

Quoted By: >>109718864 >>109718997 >>109731684

>>109702667
We can all agree this was best Splinter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 14:08:49 No.109718864 Report

Quoted By:

>>109718643
By an absurd margin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 14:09:54 No.109718876 Report

Quoted By: >>109719044

>>109717135
all are good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 14:18:37 No.109718976 Report

Quoted By: >>109719641

Glad to see I'm not the only one to notice that Rise Donnie is a fucking psycho. There's just so little emotional warmth in this version of the characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 14:20:37 No.109718997 Report

Quoted By:

>>109718643
best Splinter, Shredder, and April.

Worst Irma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 14:21:47 No.109719007 Report

Quoted By: >>109720562

>>109716028
City at War is a bit of a mess. Too crowded.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 14:25:12 No.109719044 Report

Quoted By: >>109721871

>>109717135
Uh...

>>109718876
Nah. The anime is too weird, Rise is trash, and the 2007 movie was written by idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 15:15:29 No.109719641 Report

Quoted By: >>109720626

>>109718976
Risefags will swear that their version has the most emotional warmth because the turtles like to hug and call Splinter "dad".

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 16:17:49 No.109720562 Report

Quoted By: >>109725939 >>109727860

>Rise Donnie is a fucking psycho.
I like mad scientist donnie.

>>109719007
I'm hoping IDW Karai and her all of minions drop dead. But I guess it wont be happen. She just become the worst Incarnation of Karai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 16:21:45 No.109720626 Report

Quoted By: >>109720948

>>109719641
There was a whole ep about how he's never once hugged them until that ep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 16:37:45 No.109720916 Report

Quoted By: >>109723970

Honestly my favorite part of watching 2012 as it was released was to see older characters get reimagined, i remember watching the SDCC panels where they showed off concept art to reveal upcoming characters, it was pretty fun, though they did suffer from a lack of interesting brand new characters, the only one that really stood out was Tiger Claw and he wasn't even that unique, though some of the horror inspired characters from season 3 did make for interesting episodes.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 16:39:41 No.109720948 Report

Quoted By:

>>109720626
The fuck are you talking about? No there isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:09:57 No.109721459 Report

Quoted By: >>109721849

>>109715511
>All shit with Raph Shredder from Image vol3

How did such a nifty concept go so wrong?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:19:00 No.109721607 Report

Quoted By: >>109731425 >>109735949

>>109716212
>maybe watch the show instead of bitching about how it doesnt follow the same cannon as the rest.

>Implying you can't watch the entire show then walk away having concluded "this is a shit show."

Rise's problem isn't that it doesn't follow the same canon. Rise's problem is that the new canon it introduces is very bad, with serious plot holes held together with the sticky-tape of "no, you don't understand, it's goofy therefore things don't have to make sense!"

It wants to be a TMNT series with extremely different origins for the characters. And an extremely different tone, emphasizing comedy. And the characters have remarkably different personalities, with Splinter being flat-out abusive, Donnie being a sociopath, Raph being Sonic Boom's Knuckles, and all of them being very willing to put their family in danger for selfish reasons. That's enough things changed that they really should have just not bothered using an established IP, but hey, a reasonable adult can look past all that and evaluate it on its own merits.

And on its own merits its pretty bad, because it tries to merge adult "these characters are damn assholes" humor, regularly writing the guys as having all the compassion of Peter Griffin or Rick Sanchez, only the show also wants to be a kids show. So you get this weird whiplash nonsense, where the characters do something bad one minute, but the next minute it's okay because they're the hero. The humor never really comes together. This is a bad show, and that has nothing to do with it being unlike the previous versions.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:28:19 No.109721762 Report

Quoted By:

I feel like rewatching the old cartoons. The original, 2003, 2012... any mega of that stuff?

I know 2012 is on Hulu but the only other thing I can find anywhere is Netflix having The Last Mutation for some fucking reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:35:17 No.109721849 Report

Quoted By:

>>109721459
>go wrong
It didn't? Raph's anger finally manifests in him leading international crime syndicate which operates on killing. Leo getting mad that everyone have their own life (Donnie science stuff, Raph Foot, Mikey writting) and the only thing he can do is being a leader without a team. Foot clashing with Triceratons and etc.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:36:47 No.109721871 Report

Quoted By: >>109721888 >>109722078

>>109719044
>Uh...
No. Others. Exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:38:08 No.109721888 Report

Quoted By: >>109721955 >>109722112

>>109721871
>mirage purist
Disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:42:46 No.109721955 Report

Quoted By: >>109722144

>>109721888
Didn't '87 come up with the different colored bandannas? And the whole idea of... not killing Shredder five minutes into the story? And streamlining Shredder and Splinter's feud, so it's not "you killed my owner who killed your brother, because your brother attacked my owner's wife, because they were both in love with her..."?

And Jesus, 2014 makes the cut? JeffVictorArt is a shitty person, on a spiritual level. Probably abuses animals too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:50:09 No.109722078 Report

Quoted By:

>>109721871
Where's 2012

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:52:03 No.109722112 Report

Quoted By:

>>109721888
cartoonfag seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:53:58 No.109722144 Report

Quoted By: >>109722213

>>109721955
The different bandana colors were made because Playmates couldn't justify parents buying their children four of the same colored toy, so the bandanas were changed to make them seem different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:57:34 No.109722213 Report

Quoted By: >>109722419

>>109722144
And? It stuck. And lemme tell you, in 2003 there were definitely times it would've been impossible to tell them apart without it.

It was a very useful addition to turtleness, and it came from the 1987 cartoon, like a lot of good ideas. Laughing at this monsterfucker artist, because just... holy shit. "Yeah man, I love, uh... the original! And the movie! And 2003! AND THE BAY MOVIE AND RISE AND FUCK EVERY OTHER VERSION."

Him turning up his nose at 2012 and 1987 is bad enough, but doing it while EMBRACING the Bayverse and Rise? There's shit tier taste, and then there's being on the shit tier of shit tier tastes.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 17:58:16 No.109722228 Report

Quoted By: >>109722408

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 18:08:16 No.109722408 Report

Quoted By:

>>109722228
Looks like Splinter's seen some shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 18:08:48 No.109722419 Report

Quoted By:

>>109722213
Not that anon but I gotta admit, for all I love when TMNT stuff leans into Mirage-ness like say, 2K3 did.... I still like them with different-colored bandannas.

Eastman and Laird-style art with the different color bandannas is GOAT to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 18:28:14 No.109722852 Report

Quoted By: >>109723094

>>109702667
Whose the cat in the center?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 18:29:18 No.109722875 Report

Quoted By: >>109723389

>>109703800
I agree.
I also think she shouldn't have super powers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 18:30:19 No.109722895 Report

Quoted By:

>>109703945
I think you're onto something....

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 18:38:22 No.109723094 Report

Quoted By: >>109723875

>>109722852
In Archie's TMNT series (which was done by Mirage luminaries), Ninjara the kitsune was first introduced as an enemy, then became Raph's girlfriend, and was such a mainstay that she basically became the fifth member of the core team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 18:50:51 No.109723389 Report

Quoted By:

>>109722875
>unpowered normie
Ask IDW how well that works out. She's lucky to appear a couple times a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 18:56:34 No.109723487 Report

Quoted By:

>>109716275
It's not that people are saying that there's no room for alternate universes or different takes, it's that they're saying this particular one sucks. There are even moments where we can get on board and say we like specific things about it, just that it doesn't come together.

Hell, I kinda like that this time around they're mutated by an already-existing monster that was out to create himself an evil army, instead of the TCRI origin. Could be an interesting new version. But it's just lost in the noise of everything else in Rise, the show where everything's made up and the points don't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 19:05:45 No.109723685 Report

Quoted By:

>>109716938
What motivated him to undo it though wasn't that he missed his brothers or felt bad that he'd basically, you know, become a murderer (type 4 death variant: death of self). It was that he didn't feel unique any more. And, horror of horrors, they might even be smarter than him!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 19:15:43 No.109723875 Report

Quoted By: >>109724443 >>109730016 >>109739938 >>109774520

>>109723094
I hopeshe and Raphget tougheter in Forever War.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 19:20:43 No.109723970 Report

Quoted By: >>109728011

>>109720916
Tiger Claw was interesting, but it was so weird when he was introduced. Like, they'd made a big deal about how the Foot were surprised to find out about the turtles and splinter. Mutant animals? Whaaaaa?

And then out of nowhere it turned out that one of the top members of the Foot clan was himself a mutant animal. Oh... kay? Why hadn't their reaction to the turtles been "huh, so kinda like Tiger Claw?"

Obviously because the writers hadn't come up with Tiger Claw yet. I'm just saying it was awkwardly done. Still a great character though. "I'm a ninja. My weapon of choice is... these fucking guns."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 19:42:55 No.109724443 Report

Quoted By: >>109724863

>>109723875
I really need to get my hands on Forever War. Have they hinted at a wider release? I missed the campaign.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 19:53:25 No.109724698 Report

Quoted By:

>>109707676
Their take... worked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 19:55:36 No.109724748 Report

Quoted By: >>109725051

>>109707676
He doesn't even look like a rat. He looks like some weird bucktoothed dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 20:00:32 No.109724863 Report

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>>109724443
They haven't say anything about FW in a while, they are currently finishing another fanbook.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 20:08:42 No.109725051 Report

Quoted By:

>>109724748
They started with just straight up doing the cartoon version of Splinter, then started tweaking it, then... well you know how it is, you simplify and simplify and tweak and then it starts becoming something very different. They probably overshot the mark in trying to make him a better dad-Splinter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 20:17:55 No.109725208 Report

Quoted By: >>109725328 >>109728178

>>109704852
>white backgrounds
oh come on you lazy fucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 20:24:08 No.109725328 Report

Quoted By:

>>109725208
The bottom panel is about clearing your mind and it bleeds upwards for effect. C'mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 20:54:08 No.109725939 Report

Quoted By:

>>109720562
I don't just hate Karai, I think it's a wasteful interpretation of her. Traditionally she's been a very different threat, someone in the Foot Clan with at least some honor and lacking Shredder's bloodthirsty obsession. Turning her into a psychbitch is just boring in comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 21:18:32 No.109726389 Report

Quoted By:

>>109704133
Weird, I don't think I ever want to go back to fully-adult April. Looking back I didn't think anything much of it at the time, but adult April hanging out with all those teens all the time and letting them steer her life... that was weird.

I think IDW had a good idea making her an intern. Young enough to hang with particularly mature teenagers and be a "cool big sis" rather than a mom. Biggest problem with IDW is that she's NOT a cool big sis, she's Debbie Downer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 21:33:44 No.109726670 Report

Quoted By: >>109727096 >>109727430

>>109714126
Rise and 2012 are about equal in terms of lazy writing/worldbuilding, but I let Rise get away with it more since it's primarily a gag-driven show. 2012 pretended to be a legitimate story a lot of the time and if you look at the writing for more than two seconds it utterly fails to stand up to any level of scrutiny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 21:56:47 No.109727096 Report

Quoted By: >>109728497

>>109726670
Nothing from 2012 strike me as especially worse than 2003 (where the world has Superheroes in it except when it's written like it doesn't). Certainly nothing as jarring as Rise's inability to decide if being a mutant is a big life-changing problem or the equivalent of getting a zit.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:11:12 No.109727430 Report

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>>109726670

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:33:20 No.109727860 Report

Quoted By: >>109728072

>>109720562
>I'm hoping IDW Karai and her all of minions drop dead. But I guess it wont be happen. She just become the worst Incarnation of Karai.

She's a VILLAIN. Okay stop pretending that Karai is good or anything. You've been watching that stupid 2012 cartoon again haven't you? Karai is NOT some naive little girl. Much less is she Splinter's daughter. Karai under general circumstances is just a straight up evil woman. That's all she is and no amount of BS like Nick's TMNT or 2k3 with the Muh Honor bullshit will change that. On the latter? Despite being Muh Honor she was more than willing to take advantage of Leo's white knight faggotry to kill him and his brothers in that dark future episode (was so satisfying when April killed her).

But yeah, IDW Karai is evil. She's a villain it is part of her role as a villain. A villain doesn't need to be likable, a villain doesn't need to be someone you root for, etc. A villain is simply there to be fought and defeated by the heroes. And Karai is frankly doing a much better job than many of the other foes in this comic series. I do want to see her fail and die for her crimes. I like villains that are horrible characters. However, the only thing that ruins villains like this is the writing excusing them and allowing them to live. Karai better not survive this comic series. She has to die. She better die along with her minions.

And if I'm honest Alopex deserves to die as well. She was Shredder's personal favorite assassin (remember her Micro Issue about she killing deserters of the Foot Clan who were begging her not to kill them?). Now Alopex is a hypocrite who abandoned the foot and merrily lives like a happy go lucky oh so nice bimbo. Yo bitch, you're living a life that would have necessitated your death. God I hate Alopex and I hate this whole "Got a new fur mask so now I'm a totally new person who is innocent of all previous crimes tee-hee!"

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:36:57 No.109727939 Report

Quoted By: >>109728417 >>109740133

>>109702667
>What could have been done better in 2003?
People say 2003 has great writing but I can't get past the character designs, music, or voice acting.
> In 2012?
More background models. Better writing after the first two seasons. Less mutants. There's a lot 2012 could've done better but I appreciate it for really getting me into the franchise.
>The movie?
Which one? They have their flaws but I honestly love the Michael Bay films.
>How much would need to be done better about Rise for it to stop sucking?
Rise is amazing, we just need less filler episodes.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:39:46 No.109728011 Report

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>>109723970
Tiger Claw was recruited by the Shredder after he found out about the turtles, before that they had never worked together.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:42:23 No.109728072 Report

Quoted By: >>109728153 >>109728154 >>109728188

>>109727860
Mate, in Mirage, 2003, and 2012, Karai may have been a villain, but she wasn't the sort of villain that would cackle wildly about killing children. You can have antagonists that don't grind up the bones of innocents to make bread. In Mirage she even went of on an atonement pilgrimage and was considered "goodish enough" that Casey boinked her. Similarly, the 2003 cartoon made her someone that Turtles could maintain an uneasy peace treaty with, even toward being loose allies.

IDW took a look at a character that's been the most "shades of grey" of any big name character in the franchise, and went "what if we make her, like... someone that makes Shredder look decent."

Throw in what they did to Bishop and they just seem to be wasting characters that have produced great stories in the past.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:46:57 No.109728153 Report

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>>109728072
Meant to just list Mirage and 2003. My point was that 2012 was just building on the "she's not ALL bad" stuff that came before. IDW is the one sticking out like a sore thumb.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:46:59 No.109728154 Report

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>>109728072
>IDW took a look at a character that's been the most "shades of grey" of any big name character in the franchise, and went "what if we make her, like... someone that makes Shredder look decent."

Well you're wrong there. Shredder has no problems murdering children. And Karai also doesn't care, she will happily kill children all the same. It's a family hereditary trait in this continuity. And let's face it, even before Shredder was born, that family bloodline had a lot of evil murderers in there.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:48:29 No.109728178 Report

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>>109725208
It works for certain effect which is clearly what the panel is aiming for. Plus the center panel has a background.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:48:51 No.109728188 Report

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>>109728072
>Throw in what they did to Bishop and they just seem to be wasting characters that have produced great stories in the past.

I really don't like how Bishop murdered his own father (just to make sure Hob stays suspiciously innocent and morally grey instead of the evil human hater that he is). Bishop now is a man who wants to defend humanity but also doesn't value human life either given he can kill his own family just like that, how can I take him seriously? If he so easily murders family and inoffensive family at that, he's just a piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:55:08 No.109728317 Report

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>>109704167
>>109704315
Man, you and I are total opposites in that regard. I like April being kind of a loser but the boys don't get this because her, as an attractive woman who's connected to the outside world and experienced in stuff they're not so well versed in, she's the coolest thing to these four kids. Its like when you're in high school and someone knows a guy in their 20's or has an older brother and they can get you beer and weed and find cool parties even though they themselves work a dead end job and live in a shithole, they seem cool to you because they can do things you can't. But, well, a PG version of that.

Casey is amore pure version of this and April being loser herself is never really touched upon.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 22:59:56 No.109728417 Report

Quoted By: >>109728520

>>109727939
>People say 2003 has great writing but I can't get past the character designs,

Whats wrong with the character designs? They're pretty generic action cartoon but not particularly bad.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:03:48 No.109728497 Report

Quoted By: >>109728615

>>109727096
>Nothing from 2012 strike me as especially worse than 2003

2003 was borderline autistic about its continuity. You're seriously comparing the superheroes in 2003 to the fundamental continuity failures in 2012? Get the fuck out of here.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:04:41 No.109728520 Report

Quoted By: >>109729100

>>109728417
>They're pretty generic action cartoon but not particularly bad.
That's probably why I don't like them. Not a fan of action cartoons.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:08:38 No.109728615 Report

Quoted By: >>109729026

>>109728497
I mean, I was asking for examples, Anon. Yeah, 2012 has flaws. I'm not sure what flaws are egregiously worse than, for example, the way 2012 had Superman-types that never showed up when they would be of use. Not putting 2012 on a pedestal, just raising an eyebrow at your insistence that Rise and 2012 are both equally bad at a consistent world, and also Rise should get a pass for being labeled "comedy," so 2012 is somehow uniquely bad.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:11:38 No.109728682 Report

Quoted By: >>109728843

>>109704315
Dude. Did you not read City at War? That was her entire character arc. She was sick of the constant craziness in her life so she moved to California with her sister, then she realized that normal life is boring and empty and she missed her surrogate family so she went back. It's only with the turtles, Splinter and Casey that she felt like she truly belonged.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:18:53 No.109728843 Report

Quoted By: >>109735612

>>109728682
Having just reread the issue you're posting from... Splinter was about to drop out of her life entirely without so much as a goodbye when she did her heartfelt "you're like a second father to me" speech to some bushes she suspected he was hiding in. And he'd never really acted like a second father.

April O'Neil, the turtles (hot, female) human friend was a good idea and Eastman and Laird knew it. That said, she was definitely never the literary highpoint of the book, and it's no wonder that she's the character that gets changed the most in the other comics, movies, and toons.

Never forget, Laird struggled with her so much he thought "drawing brought to life" was a good idea.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:25:22 No.109729026 Report

Quoted By: >>109729093 >>109729440 >>109729972 >>109733734

>>109728615
I will try to keep this as brief as possible.

>Character arcs/relationships
These were incredibly inconsistent and changed whenever it suited the writers. What was Donnie and April's relationship? Were they a couple? Did April turn Donnie down? Did she lead him on to not hurt his feelings? It depends on what episode you're watching.

>Copouts/Subplots that led nowhere
Mutagen Man went absolutely nowhere after being prominently shown for many episodes. Mikey accidentally created anti-mutagen so the turtles could save NYC from the Kraang, but the writers did it that way so that the turtles wouldn't have any anti-mutagen afterwards so it would still be rare.

>The turtles are fucking assholes
How many times were people put in danger because of the stupidity and negligence of the turtles? April's dad, and really the entirety of season 2 was the turtles' fault. Also the turtles being fucking dicks to Lord Dregg eventually lead to his invading Earth.

>Miscellaneous
The reason Splinter's death didn't have any weight is because they'd teased it twice before. By the time they actually pulled the trigger the audience had been conditioned to not care.
The lack of originality in the show is astounding. If you disregard Tiger Claw, just about everything in the show is a callback to a previous TMNT iteration or something in 80s pop culture. The show didn't have a single original idea in its head.

This is all off the top of my head. I watched the entire show and I could write a fucking dissertation if I wanted to. The show was brilliant every once in a while, but really shoddy writing kept it from being anything above decent.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:27:14 No.109729078 Report

Quoted By: >>109729275

>>109702822
>"It's a world a lot like ours, but with secret ninja clans, and secret monsters, and secret lost civilizations, and secret aliens. Oh! And also superheroes are real there."

It feels like its the same guy complaining about superheroes in 2k3. You know that comes from Mirage, right? 2k3 tried to appear gritty but it never really tried to be 100% real world. There's a giant Japanese ninja building in the middle of new york.Just because it didn't go pure surreal like the 80's show doesn't mean it was supposed to be realistic.

Also, bog-standard is still better than most TMNT media, that's why.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:28:03 No.109729093 Report

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>>109729026
>The turtles are fucking assholes
Already that's all I need to know you're full of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:28:16 No.109729100 Report

Quoted By: >>109729877

>>109728520
W-why are you in this thread then?

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:35:06 No.109729275 Report

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>>109729078
2003 always erred on the side of science fiction since that was always Laird's favorite part of TMNT. Eastman was the one that preferred the street level violence, which is why he wrote all the original Mirage Raphael/Casey stories.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:35:15 No.109729278 Report

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If Paramount and Nickelodeon Movies would announces for a hand-drawn animated movie about the Ninja Turtles with the original old school style, it could happen soon.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:40:59 No.109729440 Report

Quoted By: >>109729716

>>109729026
I don't think we're using the term "worldbuilding" the same way. I don't use that to talk about whether nor not plot-threads are resolved in a satisfying way, or how well-done the characterization feels. I'm just talking about basic rules of the world. Are there robots? Will people freak out if they see a monster? Aliens: are they real?

Rise cannot make up its mind about how accepted "monsters" can hope to be by humans. Repo Mantis even runs a business where he interacts with humans regularly. None of the people who got turned into mutants seems especially bothered by it (Bull Hop got over it pretty fast). Meanwhile the whole supposed plot rests on the Yokai needing to stay hidden, which Baron Draxum hates. That's the writers not being on the same page about how their world works. The other stuff you pointed at for 2012, like characterizations being inconsistent, show up in Rise too. But the basic rules of the world were something the writers agreed on. Being turned into a mutant was shitty and you couldn't easily go out in public. Pretty straightforward.

The turtles being "assholes" (like all teenagers can be sometimes) isn't a failure of the staff to be on the same page.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:44:07 No.109729519 Report

Quoted By: >>109729645 >>109731188

Man I'm just sick of pussified Raphael. I get there's only so much you can do in a cartoon for kids but the way he's being written these days is just the worst. 2012 and Rise turned him into a teddy bear. I hate it.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:49:38 No.109729645 Report

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>>109729519
He's defaulted to being not-that-bad ever since he saw Casey and went "whoah, this guy is nuts!" An entire issue from the early days spent showing Raph running around after a vigilante and yelling "not so rough, you'll REALLY hurt someone!" Mind you, Casey was crazier than a shithouse rat in that issue, but still.

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Anonymous Sun 01 Sep 2019 23:53:26 No.109729716 Report

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>>109729440
You asked for 2012's flaws in the post I linked, not about worldbuilding specifically. But since you asked, what the hell.

2012 was terrible at showing how the world at large reacted to the craziness of the mutant/ninja shit, which many times became very public. I mean hell, there was a literal alien invasion of New York, not even getting into the many normal citizens that had their lives permanently altered by exposure to the mutagen. The show's focus was extremely insular and never deviated from its core group of weirdos so we never got a sense of what impact they made on the world they were always trying to save.

2003 Agent Bishop is a fucking brilliant character because he's a direct response to all the crazy fucking shit that had happened up to that point. He and his group of black-op government guys represented the normal world striking back and getting involved in the craziness. And there were lots of little moments like that, like petty criminals getting alien weaponry on the black market. We never saw politicians debating about aliens or anything but we saw just enough, from the turtles' perspective, to understand that their actions did have an impact and the world was changing around them as a result.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 00:01:18 No.109729877 Report

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>>109729100
Because I love TMNT.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 00:06:49 No.109729972 Report

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>>109729026
>How many times were people put in danger because of the stupidity and negligence of the turtles? April's dad, and really the entirety of season 2 was the turtles' fault.
And they got shit on for that, their relation with April was almost destroyed and they created a shit ton of mutants they had to contain.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 00:10:04 No.109730016 Report

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>>109723875
Ninjara knows

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 00:12:27 No.109730067 Report

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Anyone else feel bad for the silverfish?

They woke up one day, cursed with intelligence.
All they want to do is eat - not even eat PEOPLE or anything that bad, they'll stick to trash.

And they got eaten by Meat Sweats, while the turtles don't give a fuck about these poor creatures that never asked for any of this bullshit.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 00:29:14 No.109730358 Report

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>>109702911
>The original concept was never that great, and Mirage never really came together into something with a strong and coherent story.
>At a certain point you have to admit that the quality is never going to be amazing because the whole thing was held together by the duct tape of "looks neat" from day one.

I love this franchise but I can't really disagree with you, its a very fair assessment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 00:50:52 No.109730734 Report

Quoted By: >>109733154

>>109704028
Fuck off.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 00:54:02 No.109730790 Report

Quoted By: >>109730851

>>109704913
>Don't have a full on alien invasion, don't go to space.
Even outside of figuring out what to do with April, this should be true. Every series always goes downhill when it comes to space and aliens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 00:58:04 No.109730851 Report

Quoted By: >>109731057

>>109730790
2003 handled it well I thought.
Riiiiiight up to the Shredder revelation.
But breaking into the Utroms' place, and running around with Fugitoid? The Tricerators? That was a blast.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:04:07 No.109730964 Report

Quoted By: >>109731046 >>109731095 >>109774545

Who's the best 5th Turtle?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:07:36 No.109731028 Report

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>>109705843
I think they fucked up with 2012 April. Her needing the turtles to help find her dad was fine, but it turned to shit when she became a psychic super ninja mutant and surrogate for Splinter's daughter. It felt contrived and at some point she just became boring and annoying. I think Rise April works much better with her being a loser that hangs out with the turtles because she genuinely loves them and their her best friends.

I also loved the concept of Michael Bay April.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:08:32 No.109731046 Report

Quoted By: >>109731268 >>109735369

>>109730964
Archie Slash, savior of universes. When the fuck did April look like that?

And Mona isn't a turtle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:09:09 No.109731057 Report

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>>109730851
I haven't watched 2003 TMNT so maybe they did, I wouldn't know

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:10:11 No.109731075 Report

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>>109706022
>and Shredder having a magnet suit was just stupid.
that shit was cool as fuck
one of my favorite things to come from the Bay movies

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:10:56 No.109731095 Report

Quoted By: >>109731101

>>109730964
Zach.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:11:15 No.109731101 Report

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>>109731095
Sentence: Banishment.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:15:35 No.109731188 Report

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>>109729519
Seconded

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:18:48 No.109731262 Report

Quoted By: >>109731525

>>109714228
>Memes and sincere narrative don't mix.
Have you not seen the show?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:19:01 No.109731268 Report

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>>109731046
Not sure, She did get turned into a turtle in the Archive comics, but looked identical to the others barring wearing a white bandana.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:25:42 No.109731425 Report

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>>109721607
I think its pretty funny

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:30:31 No.109731518 Report

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EVERYBODY ON THE GROUND.
THIS THREAD IS NOW UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE CROOKED NINJA TURTLE GANG

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:31:13 No.109731525 Report

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>>109731262
It's doing poorly, so he's far from the only one to come to that conclusion. They should've either done a comedic-tone version of the usual TMNT stuff, or gone for their radical departure personalities/origins. Doing both at once was just a bad idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:35:17 No.109731596 Report

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>>109703945
Why does everyone have weird skeleton mouths?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:38:02 No.109731662 Report

Quoted By: >>109731715

>>109711526
Easily the worst incarnation of the turtles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:39:04 No.109731684 Report

Quoted By:

>>109718643
This, I like salt and pepper capable splinter.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:40:38 No.109731715 Report

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>>109731662
Huh. I never even thought to include it in that kind of talk. I guess?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 01:58:46 No.109731997 Report

Quoted By: >>109732047 >>109732173 >>109732341 >>109732396

>>109707086
>Raphael is just a complete bitch and it’s unfun seeing him whine
>Leonardo is a complete asshole for some reason
>Donatello and Michelangelo feel like afterthoughts
>suddenly April is a ninja which would be fine because this is standalone at first glance but in the trophy room there’s the Time Scepter, TGRI mutagen, and Shredder’s mask which implies this is the same universe as the original films
>how the fuck do the turtles even get jobs
>the plot is ridiculous even for mutant ninja reptiles fighting ninjas involving prophecies, the 13 monsters, and stone warriors
Even if it’s not that bad, it’s not very good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:02:48 No.109732047 Report

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>>109731997
>>how the fuck do the turtles even get jobs
The Great Recession hadn't hit when the movie was written, it still seemed like getting a job was doable for people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:06:25 No.109732102 Report

Quoted By: >>109740453

>>109715491
To be fair while not quite a pacifist 1990 at least gave don a personality
He couldn’t really interact well with his brothers until the end and he had organically displayed his intellect through obscure references and pointing out the antique store couldn’t take that many people
He also bounced off Michelangelo well
Plus he’s kind of a fuckin asshole
>don’t worry, I came prepared!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:10:22 No.109732173 Report

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>>109731997
Funny enough I remember Laird saying it was his second favorite movie, somewhere on his website.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:12:52 No.109732211 Report

Quoted By: >>109732245

Green lovers come rescue me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmOUDf8ufbQ

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:14:59 No.109732245 Report

Quoted By: >>109732301

>>109732211
I hope the artist made no money from that.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:18:17 No.109732301 Report

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>>109732245
what have you got against marc m?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLMQfu1OpX8

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:21:01 No.109732341 Report

Quoted By: >>109732396

>>109731997
I loved Raph and Leo in 2007. It was the last time Raph had some legitimate edge to him, and his beef with Leo felt really personal because Leo was playing into it instead of trying to take the high ground.

>"I'm better than you"

That's such a good line. Does he really think that or was he just trying to hurt Raph's feelings? It works both ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:24:04 No.109732396 Report

Quoted By: >>109732582

>>109732341
Guy who posted >>109731997 here and that’s one of my major problems, I feel like, considering since this is the fourth film in the universe, after everything they’ve been through, Leonardo would never say this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:26:04 No.109732440 Report

Quoted By: >>109732659

For all the oddly good convo and debate on TMNT having flaws or narrative incoherence baked into its base concept, I always also took it being the literal comics equivalent of the kitchen sink was also paradoxically one of its strongest points.

Mirage volume 1, Tales volume 1, and the slew of specials, mini-series, and one-shot issues in anthology books together still makes a fantastic overall narrative of a cycle of revenge. Even if it's being done through, well.... teenage mutant ninja turtles. And yet all the weird shit flung at or they flung into never felt unfun or out-of-character at all, because you start off with said literal TMNT with a crazy comic-book sci-fi origin as the driving characters. That whole production is still one of my favorite set of comics ever.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:32:25 No.109732582 Report

Quoted By: >>109732679 >>109732721

>>109732396
It's a soft sequel, if anything. I feel like they just didn't want to do the origin and Shredder again. There's a cute nod to the old movies at the end but they never explicitly say it's a sequel to the 90's movies.

It's best to just judge it on its own. It's a cool movie with awesome animation and surprisingly good character drama with a fucking ridiculous and unnecessarily complicated plot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:36:51 No.109732659 Report

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>>109732440
Yeah, agreed entirely. Eastman and Laird are super humble guys and would never put on airs about such a ridiculous concept, but there's more baked into TMNT than even they give it credit for. The themes of family, revenge, honor, and the neutral-good nature of the turtles themselves are all there from the very beginning. And Volume 1 itself (the Eastman/Laird content) is a very solidly executed story with a beginning, middle and end. They restore their honor by confronting and killing Shredder, but it isn't until they broker peace with the Foot and end their blood feud that they can finally live in peace.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:37:35 No.109732673 Report

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2003: Voice acting. Theme song. Better humor too. Not do what they did with Shredder.

2012: Not make Mikey an annoying drooling mouthbreather. Make a better Casey. Not go to space for half a season. Pull the trigger sooner with things instead of prolonging something or going back to square one.

Rise: Everything. No like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:37:51 No.109732679 Report

Quoted By: >>109732871

>>109732582
>sequel hints at the return of Shredder
>5 people saw the movie so it’ll never fucking happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:40:59 No.109732721 Report

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>>109732582
It came out just a few months before the Stock Market crashed. The shittiness of the movie and subsequent box office disappointment was a key factor. Prove otherwise.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:47:18 No.109732835 Report

Quoted By: >>109732924

>>109702667
I wish the 2k3 main Shredder was the Demon and Ch'rell came later, so the original/real Oroku Saki has a bigger role overall

They made him an alien in the first place so he could pick up his severed head but magic works just as well

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:49:22 No.109732871 Report

Quoted By: >>109732905 >>109732913 >>109733142 >>109742262

>>109732679
Dude, I got so hype when I saw this poster. I don't know if it was just done by a member of the production staff for fun or it was a legitimate pitch but damn man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:51:00 No.109732905 Report

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>>109732871
>everyone but Michelangelo is unmutated
Yikes, I dunno if I could’ve stomached an hour and a half of michelangelo

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:51:35 No.109732913 Report

Quoted By:

>>109732871
Dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 02:52:12 No.109732924 Report

Quoted By:

>>109732835
Or give Ch'rell a separate human identity to have him interact with Tengu from the start. IIt would be playing the Krang-type kinda straight though. Then after Tengu is dispelled or whatever, Shredder shows up but it's Ch'rell.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 03:05:20 No.109733142 Report

Quoted By:

>>109732871
>we got a sequel to the 2014 movie but not this

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 03:05:47 No.109733154 Report

Quoted By:

>>109730734
Rise April is just a bad colorswap of Irma. Deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 03:40:31 No.109733734 Report

Quoted By: >>109733822 >>109734344 >>109734720

>>109729026
As frustrated as I was that we never got resolution to Donnie and April, I thought it was pretty obvious that she wasn't sure of her feelings herself but was moving in the direction of liking him, spending more time hanging out with him in the final two seasons. I'm baffled anyone could watch any episode and think she had turned him down or was just not saying anything to avoid hurting his feelings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 03:45:08 No.109733822 Report

Quoted By: >>109734055

>>109733734
>at some point April will get a turtle dicking
Rest In Peace vagina

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 03:59:03 No.109734055 Report

Quoted By:

>>109733822
Eh, it had a good run.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 04:15:27 No.109734344 Report

Quoted By: >>109735026

>>109733734
From the music video I'd always figured that the staff had decided that they should end up a couple and Ciro was holding off on it because he wanted to do it in the sequel movie. The one he still insists he'll be able to make.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 04:38:39 No.109734720 Report

Quoted By:

>>109733734
There's literally an episode in season 5 where Raph is missing Mona Lisa and he gets frustrated watching his brothers in their relationships. Donnie and April are all over each other. There's no linear progression to their relationship, it's just what's needed in each episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 05:02:32 No.109735026 Report

Quoted By: >>109736067

>>109734344
Rise is making people nostalgic for 2012. He might get the movie yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 05:27:13 No.109735369 Report

Quoted By:

>>109731046
>when the fuck did april look like that?
Never, which is actually semi surprising to me considering everything the cartoon got up to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 05:46:01 No.109735612 Report

Quoted By:

>>109728843
>Laird struggled with her so much he thought "drawing brought to life" was a good idea.
Laird struggled with Splinter, too, which is why in Mirage v4 he had him basically stand around saying vaguely Zen sounding things and doing fuck-all for like a dozen issues, then Laird threw up his hands and had the old guy just croak so he could write a big weepy funeral and then be rid of the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 06:23:41 No.109735949 Report

Quoted By: >>109736146

>>109721607
>raph is boom knuckles
Fucking wrong, only one instance portrays him as being super aloof in the entire show
>splinter is abusive
He's a lazy sack of shit and regularly shows affection towards the dudes
>donnie sociopath
He's more of cocky narcissist than anything regularly praising his handiwork and pride in his machines
>all the characters are assholes
4 episodes show them doing selfish shit but they almost always do the we are a family lets work together a ndd win quote
Where did you get this?
I'll say it's decent it's far from boring shit like Hilda and non cohesive shit like rwby and it's potholes are very few, it's a monster of the week set up show for the most part and solely plot driven episodes still have a level of comedy to them (see fish and ladders episode, splinter figuring out the resurrection plot episode, and footclan side notes at the end of the early episodes) nothing is so completely out there that it actively destroys the watchabilty of the show
I wanna say you're a shitposter but I'm not too sure, what's your thoughts on sneed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 06:36:59 No.109736067 Report

Quoted By: >>109736248

>>109735026
You anti-Rise fags are obnoxious as fuck.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 06:40:10 No.109736091 Report

Quoted By: >>109758188

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 06:46:09 No.109736146 Report

Quoted By:

>>109735949
There's a lot to dissect here, but my main takeaway is that you think the most notable trait of Sonic Boom's Knuckles was that he was "aloof" and not "the dumbest musclehead alive."

Also you think a guy that we're told LITERALLY NEVER HUGGED HIS KIDS UNTIL ONE OF THESE EPS is a fine father. I mean, it's a comedy, but we can still say that the joke apparently is that he's a shitty shitty father.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 06:55:12 No.109736248 Report

Quoted By: >>109736345 >>109740624

>>109736067
Simple facts, Anon. 2003 and 2012 were huge toy-sellers and we know that 2012 was a ratings behemoth for the first couple seasons: https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/network-press-releases/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-renewed-for-fourth-season-by-nickelodeon/

Rise is underperforming in comparison. That's not opinion, it's fact. The ratings its pulling in wouldn't be too bad if this wasn't a major franchise with a history of doing way better. For a first season debut, its not on the trajectory Nick would have wanted. I don't see it lasting nearly as long as the 2012 series, and it's entirely possible (although __DEFINITELY__ not likely) Nick might consider doing a movie with the previous version. If Rise had done better they probably wouldn't want to dilute the Rise brand. The worse Rise does, the better the odds of them deciding "fuck it" and doing a little more with the 2012 universe.

Frankly I'd love to see 2003 get some love, but that would be damn hard at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 07:05:45 No.109736345 Report

Quoted By: >>109736422 >>109736425 >>109745542

>>109736248
Rise is getting a Netflix movie. It was announced like a month or two in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 07:13:25 No.109736407 Report

Quoted By: >>109736448

https://twitter.com/RCoA/status/1168051645801910274

Do hugs and kisses give a show "heart," /co/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 07:14:53 No.109736422 Report

Quoted By:

>>109736345
Yeah, I know. They threw a lot at this take, expecting it to be as successful as the previous versions.

It's still underperforming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 07:15:40 No.109736425 Report

Quoted By: >>109736725

>>109736345
Damn, Netflix will greenlight anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 07:17:41 No.109736448 Report

Quoted By: >>109736552

>>109736407
A running gag is that Splinter doesn't know his sons' names. Them being emotionally starved for affection is kinda something that keeps getting brought up as a plot point, hugs be damned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 07:30:58 No.109736552 Report

Quoted By: >>109737715 >>109742861

>>109736448
I remember once Michelangelo and splinter had this exchange In the first episode
>hey we wanna be ninjas like Lou jitsu
>HAHAHAHAHA NICE TRY
Later it’s revealed splinter is Lou Jitsu so that’s even more fucked up
Who insults their child for them wanting to be like him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 07:51:35 No.109736725 Report

Quoted By:

>>109736425
It was a deal when they were just warming up and thought that Rise might just be a bit of a late bloomer. But it's struggling and you can't un-green-light a netflix movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 07:54:23 No.109736746 Report

Quoted By: >>109737150

>>109702667
Rise is the Teen Titans Go of TMNT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 08:51:26 No.109737150 Report

Quoted By: >>109737733

>>109736746
GO is waaaay more popular even now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 10:32:49 No.109737715 Report

Quoted By:

>>109736552
This. Every ep I've tried to watch had Splinter being a douche to his own sons.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 10:38:11 No.109737733 Report

Quoted By:

>>109737150
I don't think that is the aspect of GO that anon was inferring to.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 10:54:44 No.109737834 Report

Quoted By: >>109737860

What is hard about adapting April into becoming more of a detective or private eye? Hell being the finger with her pulse on society or having her ear to the ground on street-level to inform the turtles of the common threats of New York. No matter the situation the turtles are still as mortal as April but she is not a martial artist. April should always be carrying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 10:59:08 No.109737860 Report

Quoted By: >>109738274

>>109737834
You could easily make her an investigative journalist who does the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 12:01:50 No.109738274 Report

Quoted By:

>>109737860
Archie did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 12:32:11 No.109738489 Report

Quoted By: >>109739118 >>109739435

>>109702667
>What could have been done better in 2003?
Ditch season 6 and 7. Make season 5 longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 12:33:13 No.109738496 Report

Quoted By:

>>109703448
Baysed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 13:35:50 No.109739118 Report

Quoted By:

>>109738489
>Ditch season 6 and 7. Make season 5 longer.
somehow gotta salvage the Bishop and Baxter stuff though. That was okay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 13:48:26 No.109739241 Report

Quoted By: >>109739635 >>109749352

Adventures April was best April
>Became a freelance journalist
>First April to became a ninja
>Beautiful as fuck when it was drawn by Chris Allan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 14:05:38 No.109739435 Report

Quoted By:

>>109738489
Don't forget redesign the dragon form. Western Dragon look so stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 14:20:56 No.109739635 Report

Quoted By:

>>109739241
Seconding this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 14:41:45 No.109739938 Report

Quoted By: >>109740035

>>109723875
An interesting artstyle, but odd enough it works pretty well

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 14:47:38 No.109740011 Report

Quoted By: >>109740951 >>109744735 >>109757932

>tfw Raphael is your favorite turtle, and he's always the main character in the movies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 14:49:53 No.109740035 Report

Quoted By:

>>109739938
Reminds me of those Italian Donald Duck comics.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 14:55:35 No.109740120 Report

Quoted By:

>>109713274
>There comes a point in every boring woman's life where she should really be going "I need new friends, these ones keep nearly getting me killed."

fify

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 14:56:20 No.109740133 Report

Quoted By:

>>109727939
>love the Bay films

Why? Legit asking since they were pretty bad outside of the Turtles banter and action scenes. Splinter vs Shredder is still the hypest fight from action movies that year

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 15:13:24 No.109740453 Report

Quoted By: >>109740563

>>109732102
The older I get, the more I appreciate Donatello in that film. He doesn't shine like Michaelangelo, but he provides the support for Mikey to shine. Their chemistry is perfect. He also has great chemistry with Casey. The scene in the barn where they are running through the alphabet using insults is pure kino. Most of his lines are pretty memorable, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 15:19:24 No.109740563 Report

Quoted By:

>>109740453
Same. I also like how he's sort of an outcast in his own group, and wrench monkey Donnie will ALWAYS be better than super scientist Donnie who can make interdimensional portals using trash cans and pizza boxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 15:23:46 No.109740624 Report

Quoted By:

>>109736248
2012 ratings were plummeting during it's last years of showing like most shows nowadays. They aren't bringing it back even if they did cancel Rise. We're more likely to back to the "action cartoons dont sell anymore" period, again.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 15:42:29 No.109740951 Report

Quoted By: >>109741502 >>109741518 >>109777081

>>109740011
and he always get the girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 15:59:55 No.109741289 Report

Quoted By:

>>109703645
Imagine enjoying Riffrax in 2019.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 16:11:51 No.109741502 Report

Quoted By: >>109742018 >>109742055 >>109757792 >>109775915 >>109777081

>>109740951

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 16:12:48 No.109741518 Report

Quoted By: >>109757792 >>109775915 >>109777081

>>109740951
Raph has a Harem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 16:37:20 No.109742018 Report

Quoted By:

>>109741502
>Leo BTFO

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 16:39:33 No.109742055 Report

Quoted By: >>109742085

>>109741502

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 16:41:15 No.109742085 Report

Quoted By: >>109746951 >>109747063

>>109742055
Why do TMNT threads need to go into a gay incestual place?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 16:51:15 No.109742262 Report

Quoted By:

>>109732871
From what I heard that was a fan art sent in to the studio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 16:55:39 No.109742334 Report

Quoted By: >>109742378

>>109703800
*A white girl
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 16:58:40 No.109742378 Report

Quoted By: >>109758276

>>109742334
They clearly didn't all agree on that.
And the very original April they're all based on, Eastman's girlfriend, was mixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 17:22:51 No.109742861 Report

Quoted By: >>109743100

>>109736552
Well when you used to be a world famous rich action star that had a different woman on your arm every night and an ego the size of the solar system you're gonna be pretty shitty at showing actual affection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 17:33:57 No.109743100 Report

Quoted By: >>109743180

>>109742861
Are we making excuses for shitty parents now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 17:37:17 No.109743180 Report

Quoted By: >>109743812

>>109743100
Just saying it makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 18:02:05 No.109743812 Report

Quoted By: >>109743900

>>109743180
Contextually though, Anon was saying that the claims about Rise being emotionally fucked up and a terrible family are false, because, um, there's pictures of the boys hugging.

Meanwhile there was a whole ep devoted to how Splinter had never hugged them. And in another ep he mocked them for dreaming of being as skilled as he had been. And he doesn't remember their names. And... so on.

Him being a movie star might offer some context there, but back to the original point... this is a shitty un-family version of the turtle family.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 18:05:48 No.109743900 Report

Quoted By:

>>109743812
>Watch the episode where they have to return the tape on time
>They get super hyped about promised hugs
>Laugh and think it's cute
>Later realise it's because they're starved for affection from their dad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 18:27:13 No.109744412 Report

Quoted By: >>109747250

>>109714440
Pacifism Donnie just doesn't stick out when standing next to his brothers' personalities. He doesn't even stand out as the philosopher, what with Mikey often doing things like composing poetry and Leo trying to live by a code of honor.

Best Donnies were the awkward trying-to-be-cool-but-not-getting-it Donnie of the movie, and the anxious overthinking nerd Donnie of 2012.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 18:40:34 No.109744735 Report

Quoted By:

>>109740011
Same

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:14:41 No.109745542 Report

Quoted By: >>109745676 >>109746487

>>109736345
>Rise is getting a Netflix movie.

Fucking seriously? How do you get a movie when your ratings are iffy at best and you're not moving merch?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:19:51 No.109745676 Report

Quoted By: >>109745870

>>109745542
Leo had to suck a lot of dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:26:38 No.109745870 Report

Quoted By: >>109745992

>>109745676
HE WAS GOING TO DO THAT ANYWAY!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:31:30 No.109745992 Report

Quoted By: >>109757792

>>109745870
Sure, but you might as well get a movie deal out of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:44:41 No.109746350 Report

Quoted By: >>109746592 >>109750316

>>109702667
So are there any female animals you wish would get introduced into TMNT?

Also Hob is an idiot, he wants animals to take over, but he only mostly has male animals and of different species. They won't reproduce. And suppose Hob mutates females and gets his army, where is he going to keep an army of animal mutants? That city is going to find out and he can't keep an army hidden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:49:39 No.109746487 Report

Quoted By:

>>109745542
Nick greenlights TMNT whenever it can, 2012 had multiple seasons greenlit before the previous one had even begun, they probably thought it was going to be a success

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:53:33 No.109746592 Report

Quoted By:

>>109746350
Ever since Stephen Murphy did his Merpeople issue (the only guest writer that Laird calls canon), a bit part of the Turtles' whole story is "the species ends here." No kids. Maybe more mutants through mutating further animals/people, but I don't see any mating happening.

Shit, even if they had a "breeding pair" of the same species, there's just not enough genetic variety for it to be morally defensible to have kids. Talk about inbreeding...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:55:39 No.109746649 Report

Quoted By: >>109746718 >>109774603

Make way for cutest Splinter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:56:57 No.109746692 Report

Quoted By: >>109746751

>>109703800
How did we go from the absolute best design for her too the worst.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:57:38 No.109746718 Report

Quoted By: >>109747173 >>109747220

>>109746649
Indeed, make way for him. Get that shit out of the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:58:40 No.109746751 Report

Quoted By:

>>109746692
I mean, 2003 is a step down but that's a harsh way of putting it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 19:59:29 No.109746781 Report

Quoted By: >>109746910

Can we please bring this character back and wrap up his story arc of just what his deal was. And no, I don't want that female wingless version. A guy who had the ability to effortlessly wipe the floor with the Turtles that would make Shredder jealous deserves a spotlight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:03:52 No.109746910 Report

Quoted By:

>>109746781
Nobody tell him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:05:11 No.109746951 Report

Quoted By:

>>109742085
Remember where you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:09:15 No.109747063 Report

Quoted By: >>109747177 >>109750836

>>109742085
Male main recurring characters:
Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, Michelangelo, Splinter, Shredder, Casey Jones
Female main recurring characters-
April O'Neil

GOSH, I WONDER WHY tHiS kEEpS gETtING gAy.

I swear, it's like watching Transformer fans shocked that their boys keep getting shipped. You make your series a sausagefest, it turns gay very quickly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:13:35 No.109747173 Report

Quoted By: >>109747322

>>109746718
I'm glad we're in agreement on cutest Splinter. But you shouldn't be too hard on 2012 Splinter he can hang around too if he wants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:13:35 No.109747177 Report

Quoted By: >>109747361 >>109747383 >>109747389

>>109747063
>sausagefest

...they're robots

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:14:38 No.109747220 Report

Quoted By:

>>109746718
2012 Splinter isn't the cutest, he's the hottest

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:15:35 No.109747250 Report

Quoted By:

>>109744412
>2012 Donnie
>best
Discarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:17:56 No.109747322 Report

Quoted By: >>109747474

>>109747173
>Rise Splinter washing the boys
Why not draw him breathing in space, it's about as likely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:19:35 No.109747361 Report

Quoted By:

>>109747177
>They're robots
And? Just ask Elita-One if that means there's no such thing as boy robots and girl robots. Probably shouldn't have stuck robot beards on a bunch of them if we weren't meant to see any genders there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:20:19 No.109747383 Report

Quoted By:

>>109747177
Ehhh, not exactly. TF makes it very clear that they're biological life, so I don't really mind there being male and female Cybertronians.

It's when they start pairing up romantically that I start getting annoyed. Cybertronians don't reproduce so there's really no reason for them to have sex drives or families in the same sense that we do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:20:36 No.109747389 Report

Quoted By:

>>109747177
So what you're saying is that the people complaining there's too much gayness in the IDW comics are being silly, because there's no such thing as boy or girl robots?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:23:12 No.109747474 Report

Quoted By: >>109747519 >>109747524

>>109747322
Feel free to post cute Splinter pics, anon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:24:58 No.109747519 Report

Quoted By: >>109747649 >>109747803

>>109747474

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:25:05 No.109747524 Report

Quoted By: >>109747572

>>109747474
Fact that EVERYONE is a Super Fanboy of his in the show is a riot.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:27:00 No.109747572 Report

Quoted By:

>>109747524
One of my favorite gags in the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:29:23 No.109747649 Report

Quoted By:

>>109747519
>Oven mitts because Raph's a biter

Heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:34:34 No.109747803 Report

Quoted By: >>109747874

>>109747519
Rise Raph would have looked a fuckton better if he was just a closer size to the others. He could have still been the biggest but he throws the visual balance off when three of the turtles are similar in size, and then Raph is as wide as all of them combined. Then he just looks out of place unless he's standing in the middle of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:37:24 No.109747874 Report

Quoted By: >>109747913 >>109748029 >>109750538

>>109747803
Alligator snapping turtles are big motherfuckers. Plus I like how his brothers climb all over him and it doesn't bother him at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:38:54 No.109747913 Report

Quoted By: >>109747975

>>109747874
>I like something about Rise
They do say that confessing your sins can be good for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:40:56 No.109747975 Report

Quoted By:

>>109747913
I generally like Rise even if it could be a lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:42:23 No.109748029 Report

Quoted By:

>>109747874
The size only looks alright in those instances though. When he's standing to the side he just looks untenably awkward. There's no reason they had to adhere to the realism of their species 100%, you can get the point across without making a behemoth. I've learned to accept it but I still consider it a mistake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 20:48:48 No.109748203 Report

Quoted By: >>109749185

I've only seen a few eps of Rise so maybe this is unfair, but what strikes me about it is the way they kept doubling down on targeting JUST the youngest viewers. Obviously some older fans still like it, but they had to know that a lot of the changes they made would rub older fans the wrong way, and it feels kinda like they're just in a cycle of doubling down on that.

Artistically I can support that, even if I dislike the results. I just seems odd that Viacom was okay with them putting all the eggs in one basket in terms of targeting demographics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 21:17:16 No.109748893 Report

Quoted By: >>109750896

>>109708722
>>109708789
About as well as can be expected then. Okay, thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 21:29:03 No.109749185 Report

Quoted By: >>109750660 >>109754232

>>109748203
I assume toy sales are the real reason Viacom even wants tmnt. It's the reason any big media corporation would want it. With plummeting tv viewership (especially from anyone older than 7) they have to double down on appealing to the toy-buying age group even if it forsakes everyone else. Milk the profits before television dies completely and all that. It makes me wonder how different the original vision for Rise was from whatever Nick decided it had to be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 21:35:24 No.109749352 Report

Quoted By: >>109749515

>>109739241
Wasn't she also the first 5th turtle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 21:41:05 No.109749515 Report

Quoted By: >>109749640

>>109749352
Not sure if that happened before or after Venus, but it was a one-issue thing so meh.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 21:42:14 No.109749546 Report

Quoted By:

>wish these characters into the IDW TMNT universe
Shinigami
Gosei Hattori
Radical
Complete Carnage
Go-Komodo
King Komodo
Shadow

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 21:44:51 No.109749640 Report

Quoted By:

>>109749515
I think before and even then eh, it's something.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 21:50:32 No.109749817 Report

Quoted By: >>109749991

>tfw all these franchises are getting edgelord grimdark reboots except the one where it would actually be appropriate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 21:55:51 No.109749991 Report

Quoted By: >>109750896

>>109749817
>Trying to be stealthy
>Raph's screaming like an asshole

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:04:08 No.109750316 Report

Quoted By: >>109750491

>>109746350
Hob isn't making mutants silly, he's rescuing them from labs. He's not concerned with future generations so much as saving mutants in danger right now, and stopping the people trying to use and abuse them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:08:03 No.109750491 Report

Quoted By: >>109750896

>>109750316
I would be amazed if he wasn't also trying to figure out some way of making more for future generations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:08:53 No.109750538 Report

Quoted By: >>109750702

>>109747874
>Alligator snapping turtles are big motherfuckers
That's Slash's thing, though, why would you give his thing to Raphael? What is Rise Slash supposed to do when he appears?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:11:35 No.109750660 Report

Quoted By: >>109751094 >>109751488

>>109749185
Wasn't the original vision like not a TMNT show at all, until the network told 'em "we can't sell something that doesn't have a brand attached, but lucky for you, we own this ninja turtle thing, so if you just rework it a bit..."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:12:36 No.109750702 Report

Quoted By:

>>109750538
Raph's biological father who is not mutated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:15:55 No.109750836 Report

Quoted By: >>109751141

>>109747063
Robots do not have gender and thus do not know love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:17:11 No.109750884 Report

Quoted By:

>>109702667
how the fuck is that image 2.23 MB?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:17:23 No.109750896 Report

Quoted By:

>>109748893
I gotta say two issues in, I like the way they've handled Jennika-turtle so far.

>>109750491
I imagine he's thinking about it, but he's got a lot on his table already. There are a ton of mutants being experimented on in Null corp labs and elsewhere.

>>109749991
Classic Raph!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:21:48 No.109751094 Report

Quoted By: >>109751355 >>109758770

>>109750660
I mean, Eastman and Laird made their little comic but AGGRESSIVELY pushed for toys, toons, and whatnot, putting together a press package and trying to get it everywhere. The original vision was "let's make a comic" followed two minutes later by "let's franchise the fuck out of this baby!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:22:50 No.109751141 Report

Quoted By:

>>109750836
Tell that to the guys that gave Optimus a girlfriend practically from the start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:28:50 No.109751355 Report

Quoted By:

>>109751094
I suppose, but I don't see how that relates to network guy saying "yeah, babe, I love your ideas and your energy, but I can't sell that "original idea" shit, so make them all ninja turtles instead and we're golden!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:31:45 No.109751488 Report

Quoted By: >>109751870

>>109750660
What? Where did you hear this? There was a video interview somewhere that said Nick approached a bunch of people for their take on the turtles, and went with Suriano and Ward because they both had nearly identical ideas.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:41:07 No.109751870 Report

Quoted By: >>109752274

>>109751488
Some fellow TMNT fan, so I suppose it's bullshit then. That's why I asked, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 22:50:33 No.109752274 Report

Quoted By: >>109753576 >>109753684

>>109751870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkm8p1E_11I
Yeah here's the video. The way they talk about tmnt gave the impression that they had a sincere respect for it. But I think something went terribly wrong with the way they're handling the new series. Makes me wonder if it's Nick's influence or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 23:23:15 No.109753576 Report

Quoted By:

>>109752274
That's a fucking funny way to show love.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 23:25:35 No.109753684 Report

Quoted By: >>109754941

>>109752274
I don't think they could blame executive meddling for basic shit like "do mutants need to hide?"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 23:35:34 No.109754232 Report

Quoted By: >>109754941

>>109749185
Sure, but even then they gambled 100% on kids being into the toys and show, assuming that there was no need to keep around older fans that had liked previous versions. A gamble that the too-young-to-care-about-other-versions demographic was all that mattered.

And again, artistically I support that. I just think it's weird as fuck that Viacom thought it was the way to go, since Viacom is way more about the Benjamins than the art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 23:52:35 No.109754941 Report

Quoted By:

>>109753684
I mean fuck them for not caring enough to monitor the consistency of their own show yeah. But I meant stuff like the writers they can pick from or how they're able to format their stories may or may not be controlled by their Viacom overlords. Then again I don't know, I wish I did so I can decide whether it's the creators themselves or Nick I should be most pissed at.

>>109754232
I think it was a pretty safe gamble to make when it's significantly harder to please older fans. It takes way less effort to appeal to kids who don't care than to adults that do. And effort is money

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 23:56:22 No.109755065 Report

Quoted By: >>109755155 >>109755176

>>109703800
This image right here sums up how far pop culture has degraded and exactly how toxic PC culture can be to creativity.

Jesus Christ, this should be featured in textbooks when future cultures look back on how America imploded after the 2020 election.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 23:58:55 No.109755155 Report

Quoted By:

>>109755065
Uh huh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Sep 2019 23:59:26 No.109755176 Report

Quoted By: >>109755224

>>109755065
What the hell are you talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:00:51 No.109755224 Report

Quoted By:

>>109755176
He's angry that SJWs turned April white.
Meanwhile the woman that April was based on was of mixed heritage and that was reflected in Eastman's art. The toons just skewed for making her whiter until the pendulum swung the other way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:06:23 No.109755441 Report

Quoted By: >>109755675 >>109755823 >>109757304

http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2018/02/was-april-oneil-originally-black-in.html?m=1

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:13:22 No.109755675 Report

Quoted By: >>109755863 >>109756034 >>109757409 >>109770195

>>109755441
that's the guy who forced that inane "jennika is LITERALLY a tranny OC" hoax and either writes or does art for cringeworthy trump parody comics

lmao

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:17:48 No.109755823 Report

Quoted By: >>109756765

>>109755441
And?

What's your point? We know who the character is based on, we know she was of mixed heritage. No, she was never "black black blackity black," she was however based on a woman of mixed heritage and likely had that in mind when drawing her. The cartoons usually leaned into ignoring that in favor of her being just white. New version goes for black. It really doesn't matter, but anyone saying "Eastman wanted her to be an Aryan goddess" is as wrong as anyone going "Eastman wanted her to be a Nubian Queen."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:18:56 No.109755863 Report

Quoted By:

>>109755675
Writes. Which is more pathetic. Looking at the previews I have no idea how it needs to be a two-man operation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:23:55 No.109756034 Report

Quoted By: >>109756100

>>109755675
Wait really? I only knew him because he used to make a pretty good timeline for the IDW comic, he never really seemed against Campbell though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:26:02 No.109756100 Report

Quoted By: >>109756246

>>109756034
He's done a decent job of not shitting where he eats, but his twitter is another story. The sort of guy that thinks "Iceman, written with a lisp, because the character is gay now" is PEAK comedy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:30:39 No.109756246 Report

Quoted By: >>109756500

>>109756100
Damm, he's even worked on the IDW comic before, i guess i know why he doesn't update his timeline anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:38:48 No.109756500 Report

Quoted By: >>109756568

>>109756246
Worked on it to a questionable extent. His artist friend did one or two of the variant covers. The Bebop and Rocksteady doing the Back to the Future parody one, I know for sure. He helped... in some way? He's just a writer, his friend does all the art, not sure how he could have helped with a cover. Going "hey, put that in too"?

My point being that when he lists IDW TMNT as a past work, it's not like he got very far in the door.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:42:21 No.109756568 Report

Quoted By:

>>109756500
Yeah, though honestly looking back on his tweets a lot of his comments were decently reasonable, but he put them out in a retarded way that made it so nobody in the book will probably want him involved. Not that he needs it anyway making political parodies is paying off for him somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:49:55 No.109756765 Report

Quoted By: >>109756823

>>109755823
Look at that motherfucker, how can one man be so cool?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:51:57 No.109756823 Report

Quoted By: >>109756880

>>109756765
He's a comic fan. Most comic fans are that cool.

Aren't you?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 00:53:59 No.109756880 Report

Quoted By:

>>109756823
>Most comic fans are that cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:09:52 No.109757304 Report

Quoted By: >>109757382

>>109755441
>April was originally white

Didn't we all know that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:12:33 No.109757382 Report

Quoted By:

>>109757304
eastman based her off of a mixed race girl
laird always thought of her as a white girl

she's allowed to be both, any dude telling you that she should EXCLUSIVELY be black/white is a nutcase

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:13:35 No.109757409 Report

Quoted By: >>109757437

>>109755675
>"jennika is LITERALLY a tranny OC"

Tranny creates tranny character. Film at 11?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:14:59 No.109757437 Report

Quoted By: >>109757518 >>109785674

>>109757409
she didn't
some elements of an old OC were taken for an idea she was asked to help create
by a regular-ass white dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:17:46 No.109757518 Report

Quoted By: >>109757611 >>109757865

>>109757437
>she

But anon, Ross Campbell is a man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:21:07 No.109757611 Report

Quoted By: >>109765414

>>109757518
>But anon, Ross Campbell is a man.

Yes, but we're talking about SOPHIE Campbell! You see, if you change your name and put on a wig and lipstick, it's as good as changing your DNA!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:23:24 No.109757674 Report

Quoted By: >>109757695 >>109757859 >>109757924 >>109765522

let's talk about april instead

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:24:05 No.109757695 Report

Quoted By:

>>109757674
April is good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:27:49 No.109757792 Report

Quoted By:

>>109745992
>>109741518
>>109741502

How come the mods don't delete this shitty gay furry shit content?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:30:32 No.109757859 Report

Quoted By:

>>109757674
>Vampire April will never seduce you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:30:43 No.109757865 Report

Quoted By: >>109758188 >>109758772

>>109757518
>Ross Campbell

Ross? I thought /co/ named him "Gross Campbell."

Anyway you know what I don't want to see? Jennika dumping Casey for one of the other turtles. That would just piss me off. I'm not the biggest Casey fan, but let the dude have something decent in his life. Right now he's going to lose because it's City at War that means the heroes HAVE to lose in this arc. April? Doesn't have her anymore. And his father is going to resent him yet again. Just let the young man have some joy in his life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:32:39 No.109757924 Report

Quoted By:

>>109757674
She's shit. She's shit. She's shit. Should never include her or always include her to kill her off.....not that you can do that because if you EVER kill off April that's considered rape in real life and it's illegal and you WILL get fired and then charged and then sent to prison over a fictional character and don't say that doesn't happen because it has. Innocent men going to jail because of fictional characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:32:58 No.109757932 Report

Quoted By: >>109758163

>>109740011
Because he's the most interesting of them. Leo and Donnie are both boring. Mikey is comedy relief. Raph is the most complex in terms of personality.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dibbFqeFF4E

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:42:32 No.109758163 Report

Quoted By: >>109758228 >>109758369

>>109757932
He's just a dumb angry guy. But since most HUMANS are stupid they relate to Raph. Especially since most humans are also prone to anger. This is why Raph is the mascot of the franchise and always is the protagonist of theatrical films.

Most humans aren't:

- Extremely mentally challenged twats like Mikey so the exaggerated degree that he represents. Humans are dumb, but NOT that dumb.

- Disciplined and seriously focused about accomplishing tasks like Leo.

- Smart like Donnie.

So there you go Frankenstein. This is why characters like Kratos from God of War are also beloved same formula. A big dumb angry man.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:43:38 No.109758188 Report

Quoted By: >>109760131

>>109757865
The big worry I had was Casey dumping Jennika, see his initial reaction to seeing her new form: >>109736091
But it looks like they're not going that route, and instead doing more of a Romeo/Juliet romance angle with Casey's dad (Hun) disapproving pretty hard of his son dating a freak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:45:10 No.109758228 Report

Quoted By: >>109758396 >>109785763

>>109758163
>Mikey is retarded
That's almost entirely a TMNT 2012 thing. And one of my problems with that series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:46:53 No.109758276 Report

Quoted By: >>109758314

>>109742378
>And the very original April they're all based on, Eastman's girlfriend, was mixed.
The original April was white and got a perm a few issues in. Which may have been influenced by Eastman's mixed girlfriend's appearance, but April herself was never meant to be black or mixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:48:12 No.109758314 Report

Quoted By:

>>109758276
t. Laird

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:49:59 No.109758369 Report

Quoted By: >>109758418

>>109758163
>He's just a dumb angry guy. But since most HUMANS are stupid

>Most humans aren't:

I wonder who is behind this post?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:50:59 No.109758396 Report

Quoted By: >>109758515

>>109758228
In all continuities Mikey is the dumb fuck of the team. Even in IDW they've dipped their toe into making him needlessly dumb and annoying like going "Oh no! Gross! A normal rat!" when the turtles were spying on that God Family. Yeah Mikey a normal rat scares you even though you've lived most of your life in sewers where you see rats everywhere. Come on man, Mickey is the retard of group. Every hero group needs their retard and Mikey is it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:52:02 No.109758418 Report

Quoted By:

>>109758369
Are you implying something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 01:55:45 No.109758515 Report

Quoted By:

>>109758396
>"Gross" means "I'm terrified" means "I'm dumb"
That other anon might be on to something here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 02:04:34 No.109758741 Report

Quoted By: >>109758846

>All these deleted posts
Is it that guy that keeps trying to make "Tranny Campbell" stick despite the fact it's not even a good pun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 02:06:10 No.109758770 Report

Quoted By:

>>109751094
>I mean, Eastman and Laird made their little comic but AGGRESSIVELY pushed for toys, toons, and whatnot, putting together a press package and trying to get it everywhere. The original vision was "let's make a comic" followed two minutes later by "let's franchise the fuck out of this baby!"

100% false. Eastman and Laird had only done the Paladium tabletop game and some iron-on t-shirts before they were approached by a licensing agent named Mark Freedman. Freedman met Eastman and Laird in person and made his case, which ultimately led to the Playmates toyline and tie-in cartoon.

TMNT was never meant to be anything but a comic. Get your bullshit lies out of my face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 02:06:17 No.109758772 Report

Quoted By: >>109759138

>>109757865
>Ross? I thought /co/ named him "Gross Campbell."
You're the only person that says that deleted-kun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 02:09:23 No.109758846 Report

Quoted By: >>109759135 >>109760038

>>109758741
Nah, it's a guy that bumps his own threads by posting 'bump' and then deletes the posts after someone has replied to hide the fact that he's bumping his own thread.

A common ploy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 02:21:20 No.109759135 Report

Quoted By:

>>109758846
>He can't read deleted posts
It's not bumps, some guy was getting mad about Campbell and talking about how April deserves to be raped

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 02:21:34 No.109759138 Report

Quoted By:

>>109758772
I like how he tried to push that meme and then implied that calling something "gross" means you're afraid of it and stupid. I would delete my posts in shame, too, if I did that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 03:01:17 No.109760038 Report

Quoted By: >>109760210

>>109758846
>His own thread
As the OP, I can say with happiness that I'm not that retard. I'm more on the "I haven't read enough stuff by Campbell to have a firm opinion on Campbell's writing. Great character designs though" end of things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 03:05:32 No.109760131 Report

Quoted By: >>109760282

>>109758188
Are they being stalked by the Predator?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 03:08:45 No.109760210 Report

Quoted By: >>109760297

>>109760038
Tbh I've actually liked most of Campbell's work on IDW TMNT so far. The Leonardo macroseries issue was really great and I'm hoping it's what his work is going to be like on the main series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 03:12:33 No.109760282 Report

Quoted By:

>>109760131
Earth Protection Force and Agent Bishop, actually. The cam shows mutants only, which is probably why Bishop wants to talk to Hun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 03:13:24 No.109760297 Report

Quoted By: >>109760472 >>109762155

>>109760210
I've liked most of it, but didn't care for the stuff with Allopex and Angel...

But honestly Angel just annoys me in general (she's almost a photocopy of Casey, but with Iron Man armor that seems like a bad fit for the book), and Allopex hasn't felt right in aaaaaages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 03:21:45 No.109760472 Report

Quoted By: >>109761639

>>109760297
IDW TMNT has a ton of neat ideas that just aren't followed up on at all. Nobody and Alopex as crimefighters is a neat idea. The Mutanimals waging a secret war against the military industrial complex is a neat idea. A pantheon of higher beings using mortals as their living chess pieces is a neat idea. But the book either doesn't feel it has the time to really dig into this stuff or Waltz doesn't give this stuff any thought beyond "Wouldn't it be cool if..."

Honestly I'd be fine with it Waltz just devoted a year or two to just one idea and really played with it, but because he feels the need to juggle everything at once it all just feels like a muddled mess.

This book is begging for a writer that can execute on Waltz's neat ideas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:09:37 No.109761639 Report

Quoted By:

>>109760472
That's a big part of why I'm looking forward to Campbell. Hopefully things will slow down enough to just let the characters breathe. There's no way any author but Waltz would try to shove in so many things at once.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:11:23 No.109761667 Report

Quoted By:

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:16:03 No.109761748 Report

Quoted By: >>109762042 >>109762538 >>109768437

>>109706578
Gargoyle's was mediocre and followed the typical Greg Weisman standard of "let's bring up all these mature subjects and intricate plot threads but let's explore them in the most juvenile way while devaluing the main characters' efforts by making the antagonists overly competent to the point of silliness."

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:23:16 No.109761911 Report

Quoted By: >>109761995

2k3 needed better sound editing and a heavily reworked 5th season. Get rid of the Ninja Tribunal shit, keep the Foot Mystics as a frail background threat, bring back the comfy character-based episodes, and work on resolving the plot threads from the previous seasons.

Any TMNT series goes to shit whenever magic or mysticism becomes a main plot point, and 2k3 was no exception to that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:27:19 No.109761995 Report

Quoted By:

>>109761911
Honestly just cut the 5th season entirely. Milking things with no endpoint in sight is the biggest problem with this whole franchise.

Shit, even when 2012 killed Shredder they were afraid to bite the bullet and decide one way or another about April and Donnie. Even when they DOUBLE-killed him they were still hoping for a movie. Like... fuck guys, just call it a wrap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:29:48 No.109762042 Report

Quoted By: >>109762453

>>109761748
You have my sympathy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:35:10 No.109762155 Report

Quoted By: >>109762367

>>109760297
"Nobody" was running around the original Mirage comics, iron man armor and all. It's got the grandfather-clause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:44:22 No.109762367 Report

Quoted By: >>109763162

>>109762155
Yeah, but... so does "April was a drawing, all along." And "Mikey is a baby daddy and wants to straight-up-murder the mama."

Mirage's stories weren't all winners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:47:55 No.109762453 Report

Quoted By:

>>109762042
Thanks, I suppose.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:50:38 No.109762521 Report

Quoted By: >>109768296

Hello there, friend, have you heard the good news about turtle tiddies?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 04:51:34 No.109762538 Report

Quoted By:

>>109761748
>Greg Weisman standard of "let's bring up all these mature subjects and intricate plot threads but let's explore them in the most juvenile way while devaluing the main characters' efforts by making the antagonists overly competent to the point of silliness."

A small part of me was glad Spectacular Spider-man was cancelled because it looked like the show was heading in that same direction. Too bad Young Justice was that way from the get-go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 05:23:12 No.109763162 Report

Quoted By: >>109763322

>>109762367
Aren't those both Mirage v4? That was Laird's solo brainfart. It was full of dumb stuff that made the Image run he decanonized look smart by comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 05:31:07 No.109763322 Report

Quoted By: >>109763377 >>109763402

>>109763162
There were stinkers in a lot of other Mirage stuff too. Once upon a time, a bolt of lightning turned a white dude and a native american woman into avatars of good and evil, pollution and nature. The story kinda went downhill from there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 05:33:34 No.109763377 Report

Quoted By: >>109763484

>>109763322
That was Michael Dooney, dude.

I'm not going to sit here and defend every single story Eastman and Laird did *cough*Unmentionables*cough* but lumping Laird's volume 4 trash in with early Mirage because not every Mirage idea was a grand slam is intellectually dishonest.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 05:34:50 No.109763402 Report

Quoted By: >>109763484

>>109763322
Wait a second, are you shit-talking Radical and Complete Carnage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 05:39:31 No.109763484 Report

Quoted By:

>>109763377
Well yeah, I know it wasn't Eastman and Laird. I'm just saying "hey, that's been there since the black and white days" doesn't make something a great idea.

Still not sure how I feel about "a bunch of worms ate Shredder and now Shredder is made out of worms." I mean, points for being fucked up...

>>109763402
Always struck me as being a bit on the nose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 06:28:46 No.109764269 Report

Quoted By: >>109779468

>>109716212
I swear, Rise's fans all seem to suffer from the delusion that anyone who doesn't like it doesn't watch it.

This is /co/. We watch things we dislike all the damn time, and then we bitch about them. Like adults.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 06:53:38 No.109764577 Report

Quoted By: >>109764664 >>109764748 >>109764826

Sandals or na?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 06:59:48 No.109764664 Report

Quoted By: >>109764978

>>109764577
What in the actual fuck man?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 07:07:46 No.109764748 Report

Quoted By: >>109764826 >>109764978

>>109764577
Well... doesn't look a lot like her, but it's still a better redesign than when they bleached her and called her Alopex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 07:14:01 No.109764826 Report

Quoted By: >>109765115

>>109764577
>>109764748
And both are shit characters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 07:25:55 No.109764978 Report

Quoted By: >>109765331 >>109768562

>>109764664
>>109764748

Okay fine better?

Sandals or nah?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 07:39:56 No.109765115 Report

Quoted By: >>109767014

>>109764826
You're entitled to your opinion. I would argue that you're wrong in the case of Ninjara, because she injected a healthy new viewpoint into the book. While Raph had talked the good talk about being a bad boy (something going back to Mirage, where all in all he was always more bark than bite - still a good amount of bite, but even less than Casey), Ninjara had actually walked the walk and worked with bad guys. Plus she knew how to have fun, and wanted to do so. The grumpy gus with a temper and the more worldly character with a history and a desire to start being a better person. It was a good dynamic, and letting one of the brothers have a relationship that could grow and change was good for the book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 08:05:52 No.109765331 Report

Quoted By:

>>109764978
nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 08:16:37 No.109765414 Report

Quoted By:

>>109757611
meh. the character of jenny isnt near as bad as made out. wasnt an OC at all

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 08:16:40 No.109765416 Report

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Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 08:29:04 No.109765522 Report

Quoted By: >>109768471

>>109757674

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 10:59:40 No.109767014 Report

Quoted By:

>>109765115
This is a pretty accurate description.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 13:02:52 No.109768296 Report

Quoted By:

>>109762521
Leave the femturts outta this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 13:08:47 No.109768353 Report

Quoted By:

>>109706039
They got nothing past the radar they were allowed to do all of that Viacom only had one rule the turtles can’t kill on screen

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 13:15:58 No.109768437 Report

Quoted By: >>109786011

>>109761748

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 13:18:47 No.109768471 Report

Quoted By:

>>109765522
80s April's rack is too small

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 13:23:49 No.109768537 Report

Quoted By: >>109768582

>>109717135
What's the bottom left?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 13:25:16 No.109768562 Report

Quoted By:

>>109764978
I would desu.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 13:26:20 No.109768582 Report

Quoted By: >>109768770 >>109770051

>>109768537
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijgRyNeeF5I

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 13:40:14 No.109768770 Report

Quoted By:

>>109768582
thank you anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 14:43:53 No.109769636 Report

Quoted By: >>109771715

I think Shredder will defeat the god dragon spirit within him. But the dragon will possession to Karai or Splinter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 15:07:15 No.109770051 Report

Quoted By:

>>109768582
wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 15:15:32 No.109770195 Report

Quoted By:

>>109755675
This just makes me love the guy even more. Fuck Jennika and fuck Ross.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 16:55:22 No.109771715 Report

Quoted By: >>109772087 >>109772638

>>109769636

she has cute feet

who is she?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 17:17:42 No.109772087 Report

Quoted By:

>>109771715
A goddess of creation, don’t remember the name. She appeared in Shredder in Hell 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 17:46:27 No.109772638 Report

Quoted By:

>>109771715
Dreamer

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:34:34 No.109773563 Report

Quoted By: >>109773820 >>109773831 >>109773880 >>109773943 >>109774001 >>109786022

>>109702667
Anons i dont know what is going in this thread-i just wanted to go to /co/ and ask

Am i the only person who likes 2019 show?
seeing every fuckingbody HATING the new show is so depressing. they jerking off the 2003 cartoon and whining about black april and fat splinter all the time.
What the actual fuck
Am i the only person that can accept every TMNT show as a separated one and enjoy them without retarded connection to other shows?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:49:45 No.109773820 Report

Quoted By: >>109773850 >>109773880

>>109773563
Ehh, some people here like the show, it's ok i guess, though it's funny about how 2012 tried to please the adult audience a lot, while Rise really wants the younger audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:50:26 No.109773831 Report

Quoted By: >>109773880

>>109773563
I like it, but it definitely has its problems. Not enough to warrant the autistic level of rage and hatred it receives, but it could be better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:51:39 No.109773850 Report

Quoted By:

>>109773820
'12 was really hit or miss for me and then my interested kind of fizzled out after the farm stuff. Still haven't finished it and I probably never will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:53:16 No.109773880 Report

Quoted By: >>109773920 >>109773972 >>109774001

>>109773820
>it's funny about how 2012 tried to please the adult audience a lot, while Rise really wants the younger audience.
>>109773563
>Am i the only person that can accept every TMNT show as a separated one and enjoy them without retarded connection to other shows?
i guess i am
>>109773831
its not awesome but its better than 2012 show definitely. 2012 had ugly designs and 3D animation that will definitely be outdated soon.
The new show has fantastic neon colors feel and nice sharp forms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:55:31 No.109773920 Report

Quoted By: >>109773943

>>109773880
Guuez anon i was just pointing stuff out, it's hard to talk about a reboot without talking about previous reboots, the connections are pretty obvious and hard to ignore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:56:34 No.109773943 Report

Quoted By: >>109773960

>>109773920
>the connections are pretty obvious and hard to ignore
>>109773563
>Am i the only person that can accept every TMNT show as a separated one and enjoy them without retarded connection to other shows?
It's not that difficult anon...please try to be smarter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:57:11 No.109773960 Report

Quoted By: >>109774024

>>109773943
>Am i the only person that can accept every TMNT show as a separated one and enjoy them without retarded connection to other shows?
You can't reboot something and ignore every other attempt, if they didn't want comparasions they shouldn't have made it a TMNT show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:57:37 No.109773972 Report

Quoted By: >>109773988 >>109774024

>>109773880
My problems with it don't like in the designs or the animation, but in the format and and the writing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:58:39 No.109773988 Report

Quoted By:

>>109773972
>like

*lie

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 18:59:19 No.109774001 Report

Quoted By: >>109774036

>>109773880
>its not awesome but its better than 2012 show definitely. 2012 had ugly designs and 3D animation that will definitely be outdated soon.
The new show has fantastic neon colors feel and nice sharp forms.
>>109773563
>Am i the only person that can accept every TMNT show as a separated one and enjoy them without retarded connection to other shows?
I guess you're not the only person because not even you can do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:00:22 No.109774024 Report

Quoted By: >>109774167 >>109774979

>>109773960
>You can't reboot something and ignore every other attempt,
I can.
I love every Splinter. the previous splinter was tall and wise. This Splinter is goofy and short. They both awesome.

Im one a one dimentional autist.
>>109773972
Please dont tell me that you dislike TMNT for writing but at the same time you enjoy crap like Duck Tales reboot or Star VS Forces of eevil
Its just a regular modern cartoon writing with humour based episodes/fillers

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:01:26 No.109774036 Report

Quoted By: >>109774487

>>109774001
>I guess you're not the only person because not even you can do that.
i just told that i disliked the 2012 show designs autismo.
I didnt said "i dislike 2012 show designs because 2003 show designs were BETTER than 2012 show designs"

Do you even use your brain?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:04:06 No.109774082 Report

Quoted By:

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:08:44 No.109774167 Report

Quoted By:

>>109774024
>Please dont tell me that you dislike TMNT for writing but at the same time you enjoy crap like Duck Tales reboot or Star VS Forces of eevil

Haven't watched either and I didn't say I disliked the show

>Its just a regular modern cartoon writing with humour based episodes/fillers

Maybe, but it could be more than that. As it stands it just feels too breakneck and aloof and it never lets itself settle or get a little serious and let the characters grow. That's why I think it could benefit from half hour format instead of 15 minutes.
Plus it seems pretty inconsistent with mutants and their presence in society at large. Do they hide, not hide, how aware is the public, do they care, etc?
I don't think it should go full grimdark but it just feels like nothing really matters or has any consequence. Everything's played for laughs and if that's what they're going for then they can, but it wears thin for me after a while.
Again, I like the show for the most part, and I like a lot of the changes, but there are just things that I don't like and that dampens some enjoyment.
Then again I haven't gotten around to watching it since the truffle episode so maybe it's changed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:28:00 No.109774487 Report

Quoted By:

>>109774036
You compared 2012's animation to rise's dumbass, that's making a connection between to shows, think before you speak next time and use YOUR brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:29:44 No.109774520 Report

Quoted By: >>109774629

>>109723875
Holy shit this Ninjara looks cute, like she's straight out of Animaniacs or Sabrina-Online

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:31:19 No.109774545 Report

Quoted By: >>109774763 >>109774809

>>109730964
Was Kirby ever canon?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:35:01 No.109774603 Report

Quoted By:

>>109746649
Yeah, make him like the one from Teen Titans Go, and make him super small, but still can fight like a master and talk and all that, and I can them making him cute for as joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:36:36 No.109774629 Report

Quoted By:

>>109774520

one of the few times a writer other than her creator wrote her too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:45:46 No.109774763 Report

Quoted By: >>109774809 >>109774886

>>109774545
Yes, alas. See: April, drawing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:48:45 No.109774809 Report

Quoted By:

>>109774545
>>109774763
I think he was talking about Kirby the Fifth Turtle from the proposed TMNT 4 live-action movie that didn't happen. Kirby King (yeah, that's actually his last name) is the human guy based on Jack Kirby that used a magic crystal to draw stuff into reality.

As for the Kirby turtle, he got reworked into Venus De Milo for the Next Mutation TV series (that used discarded ideas from the 4th movie). He's not really "canon" I guess since he never appeared in anything beyond concept art, but he did inspire a different terrible character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:53:03 No.109774886 Report

Quoted By:

>>109774763
>implying Mirage v4 is canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 19:59:47 No.109774979 Report

Quoted By:

>>109774024
>Please dont tell me that you dislike TMNT for writing but at the same time you enjoy crap like Duck Tales reboot or Star VS Forces of eevil
>Its just a regular modern cartoon writing with humour based episodes/fillers
What kind of fucked-up logic is this?

>I think these other unrelated shows that I brought up are crap and I bet you like them so you shouldn't be telling me the show I like is crap
>because it can't be crap, it's exactly like those crap shows that I've imagined you like
>so you're maybe a hypocrite ha, ha
Seems like an own goal there, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 20:55:30 No.109775915 Report

Quoted By: >>109776088

>>109741518
>>109741502

wait, why are there two ninjaras?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 21:04:34 No.109776088 Report

Quoted By: >>109776521

>>109775915
One is ninjara the other is Meezcal (a mutated coyote who marries Raph in the future)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 21:25:14 No.109776521 Report

Quoted By: >>109776824 >>109789002

>>109776088

why are they so similar? why not just have him marry ninjara?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 21:37:49 No.109776824 Report

Quoted By: >>109789002

>>109776521
Ninjara and Raph broke up, I guess he just wanted more canine pussy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 21:50:21 No.109777081 Report

Quoted By: >>109777658

>>109740951
>>109741502
>>109741518
This is TOO furry. MODS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 22:17:22 No.109777658 Report

Quoted By: >>109778368 >>109778940 >>109780052

>>109777081
>TOO furry. MODS!
>The mods say: owo
Maybe you should read the new rules.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 22:19:26 No.109777699 Report

Quoted By: >>109778239 >>109782854

I prefer my turtles street level.
Ninjas, thugs, maybe organized crime.
I don't like them travelling time and space. I don't like dimension hopping. Spirits and demons are stupid.
I don't know why I'm like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 22:46:03 No.109778239 Report

Quoted By:

>>109777699
Eh, TMNT has always done a bit of both, but I believe Eastman sides with you on this one, he seems to favor street-level warfare over the cosmic stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 22:51:43 No.109778368 Report

Quoted By: >>109778476

>>109777658
it's still so weird that they actually changed that too being just porn. next thing you know they'll release the ponies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 22:56:30 No.109778476 Report

Quoted By: >>109782030

>>109778368
Eh, apart from a few old diehards stuck in 2008 "yiff in hell" mode, I don't think anybody gives a shit anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 23:16:23 No.109778940 Report

Quoted By: >>109779015

>>109777658
Is that why they still delete all threads about animal girls? Or even if a thread is about general waifus they always delete the animal ones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 23:20:00 No.109779015 Report

Quoted By:

>>109778940
I'm pretty sue it's keystone kops on the janitorial team, so some of them may be operating on the old rules, or just trying to keep those old rules active after the change because they're mad or whatever.
Ask on /qa/ if you're wondering why something got nuked, it may be a rogue janitor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 23:39:18 No.109779468 Report

Quoted By:

>>109764269
>We

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 03 Sep 2019 23:45:56 No.109779625 Report

Quoted By:

2012 Karai is best Karai

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 00:03:37 No.109780052 Report

Quoted By: >>109780193 >>109780395

>>109777658
>new rules.
Wait what? when did this happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 00:10:54 No.109780193 Report

Quoted By: >>109780394

>>109780052
Doesn't matter. You still can't post anthro girls. Seriously start a thread with Alopex saying you want other animal girls posted within it. You will get banned for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 00:19:34 No.109780394 Report

Quoted By: >>109781066

>>109780193
If that happens, go on /qa/ and ask why. You might get the guy who did it booted from the janitorial team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 00:19:36 No.109780395 Report

Quoted By:

>>109780052
couple of months ago, but yeah not like it really changes anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 00:50:00 No.109781066 Report

Quoted By:

>>109780394
>You might get the guy who did it booted from the janitorial team.
Is there anything more satisfying that can be done on 4chan?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 01:34:57 No.109782030 Report

Quoted By: >>109783941

>>109778476
>yiff in hell
I keep forgetting that was a thing. It is pretty embarrassing. I found it embarrassing we needed a separate board for pastel ponies. We do have legit autists and spergs on this site so no matter what you're going to get someone bitching.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 02:17:19 No.109782854 Report

Quoted By:

>>109777699
There's four quintessential parts to TMNT

Teenagers: Angsty and emotional interpersonal relationships.
Mutants : Sci-fi, mutations, interdimensional shit etc
Ninjas: Shadowy stealth fighting crime
Turtles: Furbait abound

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 03:16:46 No.109783941 Report

Quoted By:

>>109782030
Funny thing to me is a lot of the people doing it were huge furfags just having a laugh, at least until retard newfags came along and bought into it 100% seriously.
Pic related, go look at Oniontrain's online art. Or don't, it's chock full of furry.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 03:46:06 No.109784452 Report

Quoted By:

Rise Raphael Smash!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 04:52:40 No.109785468 Report

Quoted By: >>109785633 >>109786765

Who is best TMNT who isn't a version of April or Karai?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:05:40 No.109785633 Report

Quoted By: >>109786765

>>109785468
Best TMNT girl? That's easy, it's Sally Pride!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:08:25 No.109785674 Report

Quoted By: >>109785735 >>109786298 >>109786830

>>109757437
>some elements of an old OC were taken for an idea she was asked to help create

Even that's pushing it. Waltz created Jennika the Foot Soldier that became loyal to Splinter, came up with the idea of making her a turtle, and came up with the idea of giving her a yellow headband.
Waltz: "Hey, can you come up with a character design for this?"
Campbell: "Oh wow, I once did a fanchar girl turtle with a yellow bandanna, maybe we can incorporate some of those ideas!"
Waltz: "This character's pretty well fleshed out, so..."
Campbell: "Well here's a design. With pants, Shredderesque claws for being former Foot, a bow and arrows, and an extra toe for being a former human."
Waltz: "We'll keep the claws. And the pants. The rest... no."

Like, seriously, that was Campbell's contribution to the character. Pants and claws.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:12:42 No.109785735 Report

Quoted By: >>109785957 >>109786164

>>109785674
Not even the claws, Jennika used them before. See issue #59 cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:15:30 No.109785763 Report

Quoted By: >>109786867

>>109758228
>Mikey being dumb was just a 2012 thing

2012 fucked up by turning the dial up on that in the belief that it made him "cute" or something, but if you go back and rewatch 1987 and 2003... 2003 was the one that got that ball rolling. If there was a button you weren't meant to push, he would push it. If letting out a shocked gasp would alert someone that they were being spied on, Mikey couldn't help himself. If it was a REALLY bad time to sneeze... dammit Mikey.

Don't get me wrong, there's no question that 2003 was the better character (and 1990 movie Mike was even better than 2003), but 2012 didn't pull "Mike the dumbass" out of thin air. 2003 started down that road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:29:28 No.109785957 Report

Quoted By:

>>109785735
that's a better look for her

too bad she got mutie'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:33:17 No.109786011 Report

Quoted By:

>>109768437
You can deny it all you want but Greg Weisman is the JJ Abrams of television cartoons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:33:52 No.109786022 Report

Quoted By:

>>109773563
I mean, just going by stuff like metacritic, nielsen ratings, toy sales, etc. it's certainly not an "oh my god pull the plug how did we fuck up so bad" bomb, but it's the least successful iteration since - sorry, but it's the truth - The Next Mutation. It's just plain underperforming. People aren't flocking to it the way they did for previous versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:44:12 No.109786164 Report

Quoted By: >>109786193

>>109785735
Campbell suggested the more Shredder-style claws she uses now though. Not those finger-claw things.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:46:34 No.109786193 Report

Quoted By: >>109786302

>>109786164
So we got "pants and slightly different claws." That ain't much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:53:42 No.109786298 Report

Quoted By:

>>109785674
>muh tranny
Dromers are fucking stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 05:54:00 No.109786302 Report

Quoted By: >>109786445

>>109786193
Yeah, that's my point. Retards are acting like this is Campbell's character, or a revamp of one of Campbell's old characters, or something. Waltz literally came up with everything except claws and pants. I mean hey, deciding what weapon a turtle should have isn't entirely insignificant, but...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:04:39 No.109786445 Report

Quoted By: >>109786544

>>109786302
>sucking Campbell's feminine cock
Yikes and cringe

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:12:52 No.109786544 Report

Quoted By: >>109786857

>>109786445
Thank you for making it so easy for people to understand that I'm the one with a good grasp on who contributed what.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:28:01 No.109786765 Report

Quoted By: >>109786855 >>109786859

>>109785468
April and Karai have always been shit (and yes fuck you asshole who says "Karai has always been Splinter's daughter that's great!" Fuck you and your family). The only things those two have going for themselves is at one point having decent character designs before political correctness got a hold of them (so the first thing they lose is their breasts).

>>109785633
And this one is easily going to be turned into a dyke by Virtue Signaling IDW. Come on a character design like that looks like a dyke. She also hangs around with the lesbian woman often and her job is also mechanic (similar to how in real life butch lesbians work as mechanics).

Sally is a total dyke. Maybe not now, but in today's politically correct times you bet that Pro-SJW bastards like IDW will definitively make her a lesbian. After all lesbians are a trendy thing like the new Batwoman TV show or Steven Universe or how about how conveniently when a show is cancelled or ended at the last minute they reveal female characters as lesbians? Sally is doomed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:33:57 No.109786830 Report

Quoted By:

>>109785674
>Like, seriously, that was Campbell's contribution to the character. Pants and claws.

Campbell does more than that. Remember Eastman created Alopex and what did Campbell do when he got a writing job? He made Alopex go through a rebirth when Alopex got the new fur mask and from there on out according to Campbell Alopex is now a stupid empty headed worthless bimbo.

With Jennika's mutation I see this as another excuse for Campbell to rebirth another character he did not create. And basically Jennika in the mutated form will have a wholly new personality. One that no doubt other writers will have to agree to because the bastard is going to be head writer starting from issue 101.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:35:35 No.109786855 Report

Quoted By:

>>109786765

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:35:37 No.109786857 Report

Quoted By:

>>109786544
You just repeat IDW propaganda nothing more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:35:43 No.109786859 Report

Quoted By: >>109786931 >>109786962 >>109786997

>>109786765
>I'm very angry about things that have not happened
You shouldn't borrow rage from the future, anon, it's not healthy.
Besides, people said the same shit when they teased that one of the characters was a lesbian years ago. Then the reveal happened and it turned out it wasn't Sally, it was the doctor. They've got their token lesbian already.

What's more, who cares? I'm not some gay ass zoomer who's mad about lesbians, I remember when a girl-on-girl scene was a pleasant surprise in a porno film, and when seeing hot lesbians make out on TV was just a pipe dream. Now we live in the golden age and all you fags do is whine about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:36:28 No.109786867 Report

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>>109785763
And that's how I learned to hate Michelangelo. I don't hate the concept of Michelangelo but because I know that writers can NEVER be trusted with a slightly dim character and they always flanderize them into being extremely annoying retards, this automatically and permanently made Mikey my least favorite turtle and IDW has not done much better as here and there you see the same failings.

Fuck writers and their bullshit handling of Stupid Characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:41:31 No.109786931 Report

Quoted By: >>109786963 >>109786976

>>109786859
Do you actually trust IDW? The same company that did political bullshit with GI Joe or how about Transsexual Transformers? I don't trust this company.

And the only reason Sonic IDW has yet to bend the knee completely is because of SEGA's rules. But TMNT could definitively fall because Viacom only has ONE specific rule, the turtles do not kill, everything else is fair game. And don't say it has not slipped here and there remember the scientist woman is a lesbian and the Frog Baron has Homosexual Waiters who surprised Alopex and Angel when they saw them making out in the sex area of lust that Toad Baron uses.

It's all a ticking time bomb until Sally reveals she's a dyke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:43:43 No.109786962 Report

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>>109786859
>Besides, people said the same shit when they teased that one of the characters was a lesbian years ago

It's always a slippery slope. This shit is always sprinkled around hoping the audience gets used to the degeneracy. And frankly I don't like it. I certainly don't appreciate how in Batman Vs TMNT for no good reason they show a random dyke in the middle of breaking up with her girlfriend while the TMNT and Batman are fighting.

You see what I mean? It just keeps on happening. They sprinkle it around hoping that they can keep on pushing the envelope. And I for one don't like that shit and wish these people death.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:43:50 No.109786963 Report

Quoted By: >>109787047

>>109786931

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:44:26 No.109786976 Report

Quoted By: >>109787047

>>109786931
is that you mark or whatever your name is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:46:01 No.109786997 Report

Quoted By: >>109787115

>>109786859
Lesbians are boring especially once you grow up and realize that the literal point of lesbians are that they will never give you a shot. Because if they do they're not really dykes at all. Also have you seen actual lesbians? You mentioned porn, but that's phony. In real life lesbians are ugly and frankly in real life they're also the most VIOLENT couples ever (highest rates of domestic violence and abuse). These are very defective people who should not be enabled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:47:02 No.109787014 Report

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Wrapping up this thread. We're done here don't spam or I report you for spamming. And yes don't get in the way of Steven Universe threads. Got that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:50:22 No.109787047 Report

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>>109786963
>>109786976
Ha ha ha!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:52:27 No.109787076 Report

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That all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:53:37 No.109787093 Report

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Come on already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:55:06 No.109787115 Report

Quoted By: >>109787119

>>109786997
>he's never banged a lesbian on the sly
I pity you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:55:19 No.109787119 Report

Quoted By: >>109787135

>>109787115
Seriously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 06:56:27 No.109787135 Report

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>>109787119
Very few people are 100% straight or 100% gay, though it's not politically correct to admit it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 08:16:02 No.109787960 Report

Quoted By: >>109789604

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 08:54:54 No.109788386 Report

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Awful thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 08:55:55 No.109788397 Report

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Let's end it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 08:56:57 No.109788407 Report

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Almost done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 08:57:31 No.109788415 Report

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>>109702667
The turtles should be sexier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 08:57:58 No.109788418 Report

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And you're all faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 09:57:33 No.109789002 Report

Quoted By: >>109789102

>>109776824
>>109776521
Raph was getting NTRd by a big wolf man as Ninjara was recovering from a gunshot wound from a hunting rifle. I remember being very upset reading it as a teenager. Archie writing is top tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 10:06:32 No.109789102 Report

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>>109789002

And then wolf man died in the first issue of Ninjara's furry porn comic in Furrlough. He shouldn't have tried to steal Raph's woman

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 04 Sep 2019 11:03:12 No.109789604 Report

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>>109787960
i love evil triceratops janeway

but she'll never come back

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