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Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 19:32:55 2019 No.108269023 View Reply Original Report

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FUCKING BENDIS!

god dammit! Who's the idiot at DC who screwed this up royally?!

I don't want him anywhere fucking near Batman with his wannabe Punisher / Red Hood knockoff after how badly he fucked marvel!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:35:24 No.108269050 Report

Quoted By: >>108269535

Jason or Dick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:36:19 No.108269058 Report

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>>108269023
Batman wasn’t in a good spot regardless thanks to King. But to answer your question, OP, nearly everything can be traced back to Dan Didio

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:37:10 No.108269068 Report

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>>108269023
Bendis isn't doing anything with Batman. He's just using him in his story and that's that. Now if you're a fan of the LoSH...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:38:05 No.108269080 Report

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>>108269023
I have lost count of how many times DC played the "mysterious vigilante shows up in Gotham and mess with Batman" card. But i'm sure Bendis will make it even less original if only to get those sweet, sweet clickbait titles he craves for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:38:36 No.108269092 Report

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>>108269058
Fuck you dipshit. I loved king's batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:41:02 No.108269123 Report

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>>108269080
In that case I hope his stay at DC is short as possible before he gets booted out on his ass again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:42:10 No.108269136 Report

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>>108269023
Is that a bionicle?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:42:35 No.108269142 Report

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>>108269023
Leviathan looks like a turian

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:42:47 No.108269146 Report

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>it's a me- Mario

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:43:37 No.108269157 Report

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>>108269023
I am not enjoying Bendis's run with Supes overall, but I am enjoying Leviathan, like a lot. I think its pretty good stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:44:24 No.108269171 Report

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>>108269092
Fuck you, you brain-let cunt with terrible taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:44:29 No.108269172 Report

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>>108269092
Fuck off King. Your Mister Miracle was shit too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:44:50 No.108269178 Report

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>>108269157
Just keep him as far away as fucking possible with batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:45:19 No.108269194 Report

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>>108269157
>I am enjoying Leviathan,
no it sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:45:45 No.108269198 Report

Quoted By: >>108269227 >>108269260 >>108269382 >>108269535

I don't think bendis is as bad as everyone says and I think most people on here are NPCs when it comes to his works. He isn't great but he's far from the worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:45:55 No.108269200 Report

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>>108269092
>complains about Bendis
>but thinks King's Batman was good?

Does not compute

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:46:21 No.108269209 Report

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>>108269171
I haven't seen batman give a shit about the crime he fights since Arkham.

I miss that fucking batman.
Not this near-murderous edgelord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:47:08 No.108269218 Report

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>>108269023
It's going to be a character that no one really cares about, like Batwoman

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:48:08 No.108269227 Report

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>>108269198
What a complete nothing statement from a faggot that doesn’t even read comics. Fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:48:24 No.108269233 Report

Quoted By: >>108269279

The first two issues and lead up in Action were good so
Fuck
You
Memesters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:49:17 No.108269247 Report

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>>108269227
Cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:49:30 No.108269248 Report

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>>108269227
Way to prove his point you cringy spaz

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:50:06 No.108269260 Report

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>>108269198
here is your (You), Bendis' whore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:51:26 No.108269276 Report

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>>108269023
Tim?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:51:42 No.108269279 Report

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>>108269233
Bendis pls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:52:59 No.108269300 Report

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>>108269276
Tim is on Young Justice, another Bendis book, so he's off the table

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:53:24 No.108269305 Report

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>>108269023
>his wannabe Punisher / Red Hood knockoff
Explain how this makes ANY sense? And please, take your time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:53:38 No.108269311 Report

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>>108269248
>Way to prove his point you cringy spaz
Bendisfag wants to be a black man and have anal sex with Bendis?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:53:38 No.108269312 Report

Quoted By: >>108270391

>>108269247
>>108269248
Alright then let me elaborate; saying “he’s bad but not the worst” without proper examples or anything to reinforce his point is useless to this conversation. He’s welcome to that opinion, be it misinformed or simply by taste that I don’t agree with. Personally I can’t understand why anyone would willingly say that about Bendis given his infamous habits and the fact that he hasn’t written anything of value in over 10 years.

I apologize for the knee jerk response

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:54:41 No.108269325 Report

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>>108269092
I pity you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:55:00 No.108269331 Report

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>>108269311
totally chill and reasonable, healthy ways to think and share

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:55:33 No.108269336 Report

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>>108269305
It's one of the Bat-Family, we just don't know which.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:56:09 No.108269347 Report

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>>108269331
Does anyone else find Bendisfag to be rather... troubled? -

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:57:48 No.108269374 Report

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>>108269347
bendis is gay, has a foot fetish, and is only attracted to black males

this is an open secret in the industry

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:58:11 No.108269382 Report

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>>108269198
I completely agree with you Anon, but you'll get called an NPC or Bendis for expressing this. His Superman hasn't been good, but it's no worse than shit Jurgens has shit out and his Action Comics has actually been readable. I think people are just going into his books wanting to hate it because of all his awful stuff the past few years. He honestly should only be on one book right now though and it should be Action. Let someone else write Superman while he writes the street level stuff he can't ever seem to leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:58:23 No.108269383 Report

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>>108269336
Maybe, I'm hoping it's Kate Kane bc that could be an interesting status quo, but that's not what your initial statement portended

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 19:59:31 No.108269395 Report

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>>108269382
So does bendisfag have a black kink, thats the only way i can explain his ebony fetish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:00:44 No.108269411 Report

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fire Bendis and print a literal written apology for ever publishing his garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:01:38 No.108269427 Report

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Brian Bendis wants to Batman so fucking badly it hurts. He literally made an entire comic event for the Superman books starring an evil organization from the Batman books as the end all, be all of all evil organizations, and the current incarnation of said evil organization is even led by someone in the Bat-Family. Then there's the big Legion of Super-Heroes relaunch that we already know will start a now immortal member of the Bat-Family living thorughout the ages.

What's next? A Batman Senpai' character will literally impregnate a supporting member of Superman's cast to seal the deal on the Superman cucking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:01:45 No.108269428 Report

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>>108269023
Fucking hack deserves to be fired, but nepotism has him sitting pretty. Fuck you, DC. You tanked so many books lately

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:02:46 No.108269437 Report

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>>108269374
It's become apparent that Bendis has crushes on various characters, and uses others to live out his own sordid fantasies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:02:48 No.108269438 Report

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>>108269427
Batman's Leviathan literally obliterated Superman's world. If that doesn't show that Batman swallowed Superman's world, i don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:04:05 No.108269455 Report

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>>108269023
I'm not buying anything that that prick Bendis is on.
i dont understand DC's thinking.. all the hate about SJW shit not selling , nobody likes it.. yet they bring him on?

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:04:25 No.108269463 Report

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>>108269427
Superman was always Batman's bitch. Bendis is just making it an explicit fucking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:05:11 No.108269474 Report

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Someone can explain me how Bendis just arrived DC and was given like 10 books, lots of say and is sinking all his books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:06:26 No.108269495 Report

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>>108269427
>>108269438
>>108269463
Was Tomasi's LE COMFY run any better with it by constantly shoving Batman and Damian everywhere? Go fuck yourself. At least something is happening during Bendis run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:07:13 No.108269507 Report

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>>108269495
This

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:07:27 No.108269508 Report

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>>108269023
Screw up what, literally nothing has happened in all those dozen issues other than the word Leviathan being thrown around as if we're supposed to be intimidated or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:07:35 No.108269511 Report

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>>108269474
Hrs friends with the right people and dumbasses thought his well known name was positive buzz

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:07:41 No.108269513 Report

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>>108269495
>At least something is happening during Bendis run.

HA HA HA HA HA HA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:07:46 No.108269515 Report

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>>108269474
Nigga, during the New 52 Liefeld was given tons of books to write and draw, despite sunking every one of them. Nepotism will always rule

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:08:14 No.108269523 Report

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>>108269495
>>108269507
I'm just glad that many are disliking Bendis and his sales aren't doing as good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:08:15 No.108269524 Report

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>>108269474
Long time friend of Jim Lee, Geoff Johns and Diane Nelson.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:08:36 No.108269528 Report

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>>108269495
Contrarian faggot, what good is happening with him at the wheel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:09:32 No.108269535 Report

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>>108269198
Bendis's YJ is great and Leviathan seem decent so far. His other work for DC is bad.
>>108269050
It's definitely not Jason and I don't see how Dick could pull this off since he's currently Ric.

With the way DC has been treating the Titans lately, I think that Leviathan may be a Titans member who went nuclear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:09:54 No.108269541 Report

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>>108269495
>>108269507
Bendis' inserts of his daughter appeal to nobody but his own self.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:10:47 No.108269552 Report

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>>108269495
Is this serious? Tell me this isn't series? I just, no, just...no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:10:57 No.108269555 Report

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>>108269535
>Bendis's YJ is great and Leviathan seem decent so far.
YJ sells like shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:11:03 No.108269556 Report

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>>108269528
Superman becoming a hunk of a black meat. YUM. Just imagine him streching Lois' tight little white pussy with his now swarty BBC!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:11:10 No.108269559 Report

Quoted By: >>108272390

>>108269535
>YJ is great
Teen Lantern is a goddamn abomination

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:11:13 No.108269560 Report

Quoted By: >>108269576

>>108269092
I agree with you.
However, King's run was my first time reading Batman's comics. Having said that, suggestions from others on I should read?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:12:01 No.108269567 Report

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>>108269495
you are retarded like bendis or you are bendis

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:12:33 No.108269576 Report

Quoted By: >>108269659

>>108269560
>King's run was my first time reading Batman's comics.
The thought of that being the case of many people fill me with absolute dread as a fan of the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:13:06 No.108269583 Report

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Superboy Prime, I know you are out there, please kill Bendis and King..

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:14:09 No.108269595 Report

Quoted By: >>108269635

Did you know Bendis adopted a black girl but gave her back after she failed to get straight A's?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:14:36 No.108269604 Report

Quoted By: >>108269635 >>108269740 >>108271004

It's going to be Roy Harper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:15:27 No.108269618 Report

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>>108269495
You're an insufferable, unreasonable faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:16:29 No.108269635 Report

Quoted By: >>108269645 >>108269740 >>108271004 >>108271597

>>108269595
This shit is fucked up man, really creepy. I get that you think it's extreme or whatever but your brain is fucked

>>108269604
But why/how would he have such vast resources and clout and stuff, and be so pragmatic. I'm a Roy casual but isn't he a smaller time character?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:17:08 No.108269645 Report

Quoted By: >>108276081

>>108269635
See ya on Young Justice, where for his next trick, Bendis will make Tim gay .He also has to make Kon gay too or else he and Tim can't be a couple.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:17:31 No.108269656 Report

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>>108269495
Ok I need to take a walk after reading this. These are the people your sharing a board with. Just let that sink in. It's enough internet for day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:17:46 No.108269659 Report

Quoted By: >>108269687 >>108269704

>>108269576
I mean, it's daunting jumping into a run while it's in the middle of the story.
On top of that I didn't have access to LCS + regular income till the tail end of New 52. Rebirth seemed like a good place to jump in.
I did ask for suggestions because Knightfall is the only other run I can think of and I get the feeling that there's a better place to start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:19:37 No.108269687 Report

Quoted By: >>108269736

>>108269659
King's has a solid core, you can do worse, he's just run out of steam and gone off course and various other metaphors. Could have been 36 issues instead of 86. Anyway just read the Morrison from start to finish. Don't take anything anyone says in this thread too seriously, Bendis threads are the garbage disposal of /co/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:20:12 No.108269695 Report

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I'm starting to think that Bendis browses /co/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:21:00 No.108269704 Report

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>>108269659
OK. I just beg of you. Ignore everything you've read from King's run. The guy hates Batman as a character and symbol, and everything is pretty much written so you'd agree with his opinion of the character. It's literally a run made by a hater designed to make others believe literall bullshit about the character.

Download Grant Morrison and Peter Tomasi's run on the character, Grant Morrison, Mark Waid, and Joe Kelly's JLA run, and some other tales. Specially the whole Legends of the Dark Knight run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:22:23 No.108269736 Report

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>>108269687
King's literally trying to deconstruct Batman as a terrible hero and a sick person who shouldn't do what he does and is wrong to believe all the stuff that he do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:22:30 No.108269740 Report

Quoted By: >>108269828

>>108269604
>>108269635
Roy is a smaller time character and currently dead. However, I think that DC might make him Leviathan because they seem intent on screwing over the Titans franchise:

Dick is Ric

Donna is confirmed to be working for BWL

Wally is a killer

Cyborg and Starfire are getting controlled by Darkseid

Beast Boy, Ms.Martian and Kyle Rainer are possibly working for the BWL.

Jericho and Rose are having face-heel turns.

A bunch of Titans characters died in HiC.

The only two who aren't getting screwed over are Raven and Terra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:23:39 No.108269756 Report

Quoted By: >>108270514

>>108269495
Tomasi needs to stop fetishizing kids

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 20:27:56 No.108269828 Report

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>>108269740
I get what you're saying, the Titans have had... a hard life lately, but whomever Leviathan is feels to me like a promotion rather than a character assassination. Leviathan isn't shown to be some shitty or unreasonable madman thus far, and is probably quite capable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 21:03:59 No.108270391 Report

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>>108269312
Dont apologise. We need more jerks and smart assholes in this shithole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 21:08:45 No.108270471 Report

Quoted By: >>108275956

>>108269142
He looks exactly like an Exo from Destiny actually, Bungie should unironically sue

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 21:11:30 No.108270514 Report

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>>108269756
>>108269507
>>108269495
>Desperate to defend Bendis by complaining about Tomasi
>Always brings up kids right after

Very suspicious

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 21:12:11 No.108270531 Report

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>>108269535
Is Future Tim back already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 21:38:54 No.108271004 Report

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>>108269604
This, obviously.

>>108269635
You're thinking with logic.
All the explanation you need is looking up "Ronin", the character from Marvel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 21:53:25 No.108271287 Report

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>>108269427

Leviathan ending
>Damian kills his Mother
>He will sell his soul to the devil For Immortality
>Legion will feature Jon meeting an old Batman 666

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 22:13:10 No.108271597 Report

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>>108269635
roy is a tech genuis and died so him reviving after wally killed him and mutilated his body made him evil

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 22:31:37 No.108271881 Report

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>>108269535

Everyone keeps forgetting Roy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 22:33:38 No.108271911 Report

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>>108269023
Azrael?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 22:37:01 No.108271964 Report

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>>108269023
oh? what are they going to do? establish a support net for the lower class so they don't turn to crime to survive? free mental health care and support so there's no crazy raving homeless people in the street? a supportive community that welcomes everyone, eradicates alienation, and actively works towards the self-fulfillment of all of its members???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 22:44:28 No.108272079 Report

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>>108269080
Well, one that will be original will be the character underneath the mask.
Bendis doesn't use old characters in new ways anymore, he's trying to set himself up for movie credits.

Look for a "hush" like figure, but for Superman.

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 22:54:24 No.108272251 Report

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>>108269142
Definitely getting some Saren vibes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 22:59:57 No.108272349 Report

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>>108269023
is that a destiny character?

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Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 23:02:02 No.108272390 Report

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>>108269559
>>108269535
>I HACKED A LANTERN CORE
>I'M NINE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 23:26:56 No.108272875 Report

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>>108269023
I haven't read anything about Leviathan yet. Is it just Not-Hydra or is there more to it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Jun 2019 23:50:24 No.108273210 Report

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>>108269068
Tbf that's the problem with capeshit EVERYTHING has been done before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2019 00:42:41 No.108274050 Report

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>>108272390
>Teen Lantern
>Eleven

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2019 03:21:12 No.108275893 Report

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>>108269535
>Leviathan seem decent
The dialog is Tom King Tier, senpai.

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Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2019 03:26:08 No.108275956 Report

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>>108270471
Glad I'm not the only one. When I saw it I actually thought it was a destiny comic or something. Because of the Leviathan raid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2019 03:27:10 No.108275973 Report

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>>108272390
Who actually likes this garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2019 03:33:13 No.108276060 Report

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>>108269068
Bendis can't do anything to LOSH that will annoy me more than the shit I've put up with since the Waid thoughtcrime started.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Jun 2019 03:35:17 No.108276081 Report

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>>108269645
>bendis doing something that even /co/ doesn't have much of an objection to
lol no

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