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Are you ready for evil Machine Man?

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 17:13:36 2019 No.108143573 View Reply Original Report

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TONY STARK: IRON MAN #16
DAN SLOTT & JIM ZUB (W)
VALERIO SCHITI (A)
COVER BY ALEXANDER LOZANO
“THE ULTRON AGENDA” STARTS HERE!
Watch out, Iron Man! The Robot Uprising of the Marvel Universe has begun! But it’s NOT Ultron leading the charge... it’s Machine Man?! The A.I.’s are on the attack – and they might be in the right. Battle lines are being drawn, and it’s time for Tony Stark, Jocasta, Andy Bhang and the rest of the cast to pick sides.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:17:05 No.108143622 Report

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>>108143573
>Dan Slott
>Hank Pym

Oh fucking here we go again, Pym's #1 fan gonna sperg his lerg all over.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:21:59 No.108143684 Report

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>>108143573
>Tony is currently fucking Jan
>Pymtron is involved
Oopsie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:23:09 No.108143697 Report

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Ok now that I know it's Machine Man not Ultron leading the robot revolution I'm down with it.

Where the fuck is Vision btw, the rest of the family's there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:24:22 No.108143711 Report

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>>108143573
So Pymtron is on the good side and Zub is co- writing?
Sounds good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:25:22 No.108143727 Report

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>>108143573
hey have been hinting towards this since IM #1. Not exactly surprised here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:26:35 No.108143747 Report

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>>108143573
Is this run worth picking up some of the back issues?

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:27:17 No.108143755 Report

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OH SHIT IT'S HAPPENING

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:37:37 No.108143892 Report

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>>108143747
It is better than Bendis but this isnt saying much, it has its ups and downs, last couple of issues have been good but if you don't like Iron Man it probably won't resonate with you.
Slott is doing a much better work with F4 imho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:40:06 No.108143920 Report

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>>108143684
Either Hank gets cured and Jan leaves Tony for him ot Tiger wife appears and saves Hank. I want the latter but either way Hank will get a happy ending because it's Slott.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 17:45:33 No.108143992 Report

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>>108143920
Fuck Janet, Pym is for Greer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:05:59 No.108144222 Report

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>>108143573
>Machine Man is finally ready to fuck up fleshy ones
based

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:06:23 No.108144227 Report

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>>108143711
Not sure if there's a "good" side.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:10:25 No.108144277 Report

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>>108143920
Jan and Tony’s relationship is being depicted as sex friends because Slott hasn’t put much into it aside from a date where they goof around a bit and then a couple of scenes of them Netflix and chilling. Won’t be too much of a loss.

>mfw Hank fucking kills her, what a twist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:15:08 No.108144329 Report

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>>108144277
>mfw Hank fucking kills her, what a twist
What will Nadia think? She already thinks he's a villain because of a single mention form some nobody that he slapped Jan.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:28:59 No.108144508 Report

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>>108143573
They have managed to turn Hank Pym into a villain-of-the-week.

Oh boy how will Iron Man defeat this new foe? I cannot wait to pay to find out.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:29:39 No.108144519 Report

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>>108143573
The Celestials tried to warn us.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:44:44 No.108144743 Report

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Only one man can save us.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:44:48 No.108144745 Report

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>>108144519

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:48:50 No.108144800 Report

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>>108143573
So other than Machine Man, Ultron, Jocasta, Vision and Viv, what other named AI-characters can we expect to join in on the revolution?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:49:09 No.108144809 Report

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Hank died in soul world, so this is Ultron. Unless something happened that I overlooked.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:50:19 No.108144826 Report

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>>108144745
Is that the reporter from Immortal Hulk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:51:21 No.108144836 Report

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>>108144809
Technically Ultron is based on Hank's brain patterns, maybe they can magic him up a raw soul or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:52:37 No.108144851 Report

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>>108144836
>raw souls
Tell me this isn't a thing. God, cosmic marvel sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:53:56 No.108144878 Report

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>>108144851
I'm just pulling ideas out of my ass, there's no prior basis for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:55:38 No.108144899 Report

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>>108144826
Nope, that's Monica Rambeau the REAL Captain Marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:56:32 No.108144909 Report

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>>108144899
You know, she led the Avengers once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 18:59:00 No.108144936 Report

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>>108143622
>Pym's #1 fan gonna sperg his lerg all over.
If only
For Slott, Pym is a failure and will always end up making a huge mistake
The only writer I'd trust to not throw dirt at Hank would be Gage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 19:00:19 No.108144953 Report

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>>108143573
STOP WITH THIS FUCKING ULTEON SHIT FOR THE BILLIONTH TIME

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 19:00:39 No.108144957 Report

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>>108144899
you mean the only one who doesn't have any link to the Mar Vell legacy?
funny how almost nobody cared about her before Carol was renamed Captain Marvel, and now she's a fan favorite

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 19:00:48 No.108144960 Report

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>>108143622
Oh yeah, how insufferable it is when a writer doesn't just take every chance to shit all over the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 19:34:16 No.108145416 Report

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>>108144800
I guess Tony still has a FRIDAY backup, since she died or....didn’t die or got stuck in Sword Art Online or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 19:41:47 No.108145515 Report

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>>108144745
averything about this page is perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 19:42:44 No.108145531 Report

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>>108144836
Do we even know if that was Hank’s entire soul and not just a piece of it? I mean Gamora was running around for years with a piece of her soul trapped in Soul World

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 19:45:20 No.108145564 Report

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>>108145416
Motherboard killed Friday

I think Arno may have kept a copy of Motherboard and Arsenal since they were based on his parents

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 19:47:08 No.108145590 Report

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>>108143573
Place your bets. Are they gonna actually fix Pym this time or are they just gonna have him run off shaking his fist in anger shouting “Next time Avengers! Next time!” for like the fifth time? The Pymtron gimmick has gotten old at this point as nothing he’s done since Secret Empire has involved needing Pym to be merged with Ultron still

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 20:00:50 No.108145791 Report

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>>108145590
Dont youj remember? Pym hitted his wife!!!
There is no escape for him anymore! His butt will be destroyed!
If somehow Pym will be fixed(unlikely) i will be happy for 2 minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 20:06:52 No.108145856 Report

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>>108144800
>So other than Machine Man, Ultron, Jocasta, Vision and Viv, what other named AI-characters can we expect to join in on the revolution?

Last time we saw him, Vision was happier than he's been in years, it's unlikely he'll be joining in any revolution. Could be awkward if he and Viv end up on opposing sides though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 20:09:46 No.108145894 Report

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>>108145564
I still can’t quite accept that Tony’s parents aren’t his parents any more. They’re even being written as different characters than they were, absolute disgrace.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 20:12:34 No.108145930 Report

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>>108145894
Tony himself hasn't been, well, himself, from a characterization standpoint, in years either. It's all gone downhill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 20:13:34 No.108145945 Report

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>>108143573
>DAN SLOTT
No thanks.
Why does this talentless hack still get jobs? Hasn't he ruined enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 20:53:48 No.108146569 Report

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Niggers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 20:59:15 No.108146659 Report

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>>108144329
Nadia already slapped Janet and she slapped one of her friends so she's double evil, she can't judge Hank when he's being controlled by Ultron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:01:49 No.108146697 Report

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>>108146659
>implying women can do wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:02:57 No.108146716 Report

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>>108145590
The worst part is that I don't think Remender even intended to have Pymtron be a villain judging by the end of his run. After Eros tells him to love himself and then Pymtron freaks out I kind of thought both characters were going to go through a new direction. Probably Pymtron being a hero but making everyone nervous like Duggan teased and then fucking VILLAIN ALL ALONG happened.

Fuck i would have even accepted both getting unmerged and Ultron becoming like a gray area character that outgrows his KILL ALL HUMANS aspect but isn't exactly in friendly terms with them either. Do something new.

It's a wasted concept like Gold Galactus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:04:45 No.108146735 Report

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>>108146697
Yes, we can, you fag, don't mansplain it to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:06:06 No.108146751 Report

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>>108145416
Tony should bust out Homer and Plato.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:06:41 No.108146763 Report

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>>108144936
This!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:10:32 No.108146829 Report

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>>108146716
>gold galactus
Fuck I forgot about him that was unironically based character development

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:17:57 No.108146954 Report

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>>108146659
>she slapped one of her friends
>slapped
I'm pretty sure she threw that bitch across the room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:18:23 No.108146959 Report

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Still waiting on that "not really a Stark, my parents did an oceans 11 heist against mafia don alien grays, I make green cars now, everything I did for the US is evil, let me kiss that tentacle for you, here is a feminist robot who tells me off constantly" reboot/retcon.

The only thing good to happen to IM in decades is Arno and he is fucking gone. That and the Godkiller. In concept, not in execution.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:23:25 No.108147029 Report

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>>108146954
Based Nadia beating up lesbians and cripples

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:25:16 No.108147055 Report

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>>108145894
Part of me hopes that some future writer retcons this whole adoption shit away as plot by Immortus or someone. This shit was a bad idea when Gillen introduced it and did nothing with it, got worse when Bendis got his grubby mitts on it and introduced his lame new parents for Tony, and it sure as hell hasn't improved now under Slott.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:25:40 No.108147057 Report

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>>108147029

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:28:58 No.108147101 Report

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>>108146959
Don't worry, it's bound to happen down the line. There's at least one writer out there chomping at the bit to wipe this shit away, the problem then becomes how will they wipe it away, and will it be a clusterfuck on par with the crossing.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:29:46 No.108147119 Report

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>>108146959
>I make green cars now, everything I did for the US is evil, let me kiss that tentacle for you, here is a feminist robot who tells me off constantly
Glad I'm not the only one pissed about that. But Iron Man's been like that for decades, is the truth. I was reading #119 the other day, and it's basically this.
>Fury: We need your cool weapons to protect America from aliens and terrorists and shit
>Stark: REEEEEEEEE FUCK OFF FASCIST GUNS ARE BAD REEEEEEE BETHANY HELP ME
It's funny that what Stan envisioned as the "guy on the other side of the fence", just became another run of the mill Liberal character, same as all the others. Which makes him come off as a complete moron.
>creates a viable power armor
>refuses to make even parts of it public
>uses it to beat up thugs
>acts surprised when it sparks a whole new Arms Race
At this point I really think comic book writers are legitimately braindead. Also
>checked

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:30:45 No.108147137 Report

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>>108145894
And to think, all of this because Gillen wanted to introduce his own version of Arno Stark who he then proceeded to do jack shit with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:32:23 No.108147159 Report

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>>108146959
Kissing the tentacle was unironically fine. Stark being able to throw aside his pride and do something so humiliating for the good of all is heroic, but very uncomfortable.

Everything else can fuck off. Apart from cars that don’t pollute, he could monetise the shit out of mass produced ones, make a shit ton of MURRICAN jobs and get into a trade war with overseas car manufacturers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:40:49 No.108147300 Report

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>>108147119
Of he made parts of it public, wouldn’t that just create a worse arms race? People would just be using his tech to do it.

That’s also just being business savvy. Why should he give everybody his inventions? Especially when most of his inventions are crazy shit that the average SHIELD mook couldn’t be trusted with. Then when it gets used by some renegade, he and SI would get fingers pointed at the, for making such powerful things in the first place. Tony being a free agent with his armour and being stingy with dangerous tech always made sense.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:41:00 No.108147304 Report

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>>108147057
I made this one!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:48:28 No.108147430 Report

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>>108147300
>Of he made parts of it public, wouldn’t that just create a worse arms race? People would just be using his tech to do it.
Not my point. If he wanted to avoid an Arms Race he simply would've never invented the damned thing or suited up.
>That’s also just being business savvy. Why should he give everybody his inventions?
Because he'd want his country to be protected?
>Especially when most of his inventions are crazy shit that the average SHIELD mook couldn’t be trusted with.
Then train them and set up special SHIELD Squads. Before the retcons he set SHIELD up with Fury.
>Then when it gets used by some renegade, he and SI would get fingers pointed at the, for making such powerful things in the first place.
That's stretching it. As long as the product works as intented, the fault lies with the buyer, not the seller, after the transcaction. Which, again, isn't my point. If you want to withdraw and be a hippy, whatever, do it, but why the fuck wear the suit? It's literally the move only a retard would make.
>Tony being a free agent with his armour and being stingy with dangerous tech always made sense.
It enver made sense because simply by existing he created the Arms Race of the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 21:54:18 No.108147530 Report

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>>108147430
So you just want Stark to just work for the Government and bend over every time they want him to build them a death ray? That’s retarded and out of character. America’s worst threats either come from within or magic/space, anyhow. Imagine if Hydra Cap controlled SHIELD had had a ton of Stark weapons and suits, that’s the country fucked.

It’s also canon in the marvel universe most people are super easily influenced to do stupid shit, so why on Earth would he outfit SHIELD with any more than he’s given them already?
And you know as soon as somebody’s knockoff Iron Man suit went awry and murdered Fury everybody would REEEE STARK WHY DID YOU BUILD THAT DANGEROUS THING.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 22:03:26 No.108147699 Report

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>>108147530
>So you just want Stark to just work for the Government and bend over every time they want him to build them a death ray?
Gee anon, I just don't think making your country more powerful to protect it from external foes is a bad thing. Weird, I know...
>That’s retarded and out of character.
Yeah, because every single cunt thought like yourself and moved away from Stan's vision.
>the rest
Again, my whole fucking point, is if he wants to be a hippy and make VR headsets, that's fine and dandy. But, if he wants to do that, why is he parading around with a state-of-the-art Power Armor, then whines that other people are trying to catch up? That's my whole damn problem; it's a retarded plot-point.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 22:38:01 No.108148209 Report

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I wish a writer with more balls than sense would come along and justify Pym slapping his wife by having her cheating prior to it or otherwise pushing him to the breaking point. I want the character to to move on from hurr wifebeater. Plus I never liked Janet.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 22:43:16 No.108148280 Report

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Reminder that the Hank portion of Pymtron was trapped in the Soul Stone and eaten by Devondra in Infinity Council. Pymtron now is basically just Ultron puppetting Hank's corpse around.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Jun 2019 23:39:12 No.108149024 Report

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>>108148280
Considering Ultron is based on Hank brain patterns, I guess they could save him somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 00:41:00 No.108149816 Report

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>>108148209
>or otherwise pushing him to the breaking point.
The most frustrating part is that that's exactly what happened. Janet knew full well Hank wasn't mentally stable and often encouraged or outright ignored the behavior that led up to the incident. She even admitted as much in (I think) Waid's run. But far be it for a female character to ever be in the wrong in modern times, so Jan's contributions to Pym's breakdown are disavowed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 01:09:10 No.108150287 Report

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Why Ultron never tried to rebuild Salvation I?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 01:44:39 No.108150816 Report

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>>108144800
DOOMBOT

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 01:59:39 No.108151070 Report

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>>108144800
Mancha maybe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 03:14:40 No.108152214 Report

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>>108147137
Which is strange. Gillen heavily advertised the origin as another Anatomy Lesson and it turned out to be a dud.

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 03:16:30 No.108152247 Report

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>>108144936
>>108143622
Slott wrote Pym besting Reed RIchards, and becoming the Scientist Supreme when he met the abstracts

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 03:19:41 No.108152290 Report

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>>108145894
Well, let's think about it this way.
Is there a single character in the mainline marvel universe that is currently living in the body that they were born in? I think every significant character has come back from death in a clone body or some shit.
In a way, nobody's parents are their physical parents. It's all stupid shit that nobody is bothering to keep track of, so just put it out of your mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 03:21:11 No.108152305 Report

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>>108143920
>>108143992
Tigra still considers Pym the father of William, so yeah, they should be together

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Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 03:26:57 No.108152372 Report

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>>108146716
Typical Marvel, dropping balls. He wasn't supposed to be a straight up villain but only Spencer seemed to realize that
>>108147029
she totally fucking lost it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 05:15:10 No.108153732 Report

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When will Nadia meet her father?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 06:59:50 No.108154800 Report

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>>108144957
>almost nobody cared

Everyone who read Nextwave did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 07:14:45 No.108154966 Report

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>>108154800
So... nobody.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 08:56:00 No.108155636 Report

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>>108152247
And Eternity punched him
And Mighty Avengers ended with Pym asking Loki to be an Avengers and everybody said "fuck you Hank" and left

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Jun 2019 09:01:51 No.108155670 Report

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>>108144957
She outright didn't appear in anything for years at a time between the end of Nextwave and Marvel's decision to rename Ms. Marvel, when she was put on Mighty Avengers and made regular appearances again. It's difficult to be excited about published material that doesn't exist.

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