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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 18:43:30 2018 No.104716333 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>104716353 >>104716382 >>104716492 >>104716937 >>104716950 >>104717181 >>104717435 >>104717470 >>104717717 >>104719181

Who is behind that scene ? Nolan or Weddon ? It's one of the few good moment of that movie and I heard the original script was out, so who got to come up with that ?

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 18:44:35 No.104716353 Report

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>>104716333
you are not fucking serious suggesting that it's whedon

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 18:45:11 No.104716365 Report

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Every good moment in this movie was snyder

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 18:46:33 No.104716382 Report

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>>104716333
Shitposting aside, I'm pretty sure it's been stated that Superman's resurrection was Snyder but obviously with a different musical score.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 18:48:39 No.104716399 Report

Quoted By: >>104716582

>>104716353
Whedon has made some good scenes in his movies.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 18:55:56 No.104716492 Report

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>>104716333
This and the tunel scene are good.
Lucky enough, you can see it in youtube

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:02:44 No.104716582 Report

Quoted By: >>104716934

>>104716399

For example? I think Whedon is an awful director. Can be a decent writer but that's it. As a director he never grew above his roots in television.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:06:39 No.104716637 Report

Quoted By: >>104716709 >>104716753 >>104716899 >>104716960 >>104716973

That was a terrible scene and it was clear that it came from Geoff Johns and Joss Whedon. From Superman being able to overpower the entire Justice League, to Wonder Woman screaming KAL-EL NO when that name makes no sense coming from her despite being a thing from comics, to Superman throwing the YOU BLEED back at Batman to look cool when the context makes no sense.

And i say this as someone who likes Superman. Everything done with Superman in this movie was a mistake, but this scene was easily the worst one.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:10:54 No.104716708 Report

Quoted By: >>104716973

It's Snyder's right up until Batman arrives, then it becomes Whedon's.

Also it as color-correct. Snyder's was set in nighttime, Whedon's in the break of dawn.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:10:59 No.104716709 Report

Quoted By: >>104716761

>>104716637
You are incorrect

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:13:28 No.104716753 Report

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>>104716637
How can one man be so categorically wrong?

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:13:43 No.104716761 Report

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>>104716709
No, i'm right. It's a terrible scene. It was bad in Johns' Origin arc of his JL run, it was bad when the animation department did JL: War, and it was bad here.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:15:52 No.104716791 Report

Quoted By: >>104716860 >>104717232

Flash immediately gets points off for all his scenes being slow motion

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:18:59 No.104716832 Report

Quoted By: >>104716888

I love when /co/ pretends to be able to differentiate which scenes were touched by which directors when all it boils down to is "SCENE I DON'T LIKE MADE BY DIRECTOR I DON'T LIKE, SCENE I LIKE WAS BY DIRECTOR I LIKE".

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:20:36 No.104716860 Report

Quoted By: >>104716887 >>104717232 >>104717770

>>104716791
You can see that all the slow-mos in this movie are done by Whedon, because Snyder had stopped done them in favor for a more fast-and-shaky type of action scenes. Worse, Whedon actually cut scenes where Flash gets to be fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:22:16 No.104716887 Report

Quoted By: >>104717663 >>104717802

>>104716860
>You can see that all the slow-mos in this movie are done by Whedon

Barry catching the Batrang was Snyder.

Barry tipping the sword was Snyder.

Superman seeing Flash was Snyder.

Guess what was Whedon? That whole scene where Flash races Superman to rescue civilians, which had little slow-mo.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:22:20 No.104716888 Report

Quoted By: >>104717071

>>104716832
It's very easy to spot which is which, though.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:23:12 No.104716899 Report

Quoted By: >>104716973 >>104717521

>>104716637
I agree, the scene as a whole sucks. But the Flash stare-down is great to me, candidate for iconic moment in cinema next to all the avengers together in avengers 1

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:25:35 No.104716934 Report

Quoted By: >>104718641

>>104716582
His one shot scenes in Avengers and And in avengers 2 first come to my mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKhfP4zdwd8

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:25:41 No.104716937 Report

Quoted By: >>104717100

>>104716333
Snyder is responsible for this scene.

HOWEVER, Whedon is responsible for nearly every other good Superman scene in the movie. Remember, this was supposed to be a two-movie story, and Superman was supposed to turn evil for part of it. Fortunately Whedon realized that people were sick and tired of grumpy, mopey, serial killer Superman and chucked all of that, and gave us happy Clark instead. Shame about the mustache, though.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:26:32 No.104716950 Report

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>>104716333
>Alright, Flash's time to shine! I'll just flank him while everyone else has him--
>Wait, did his eyes just move?
>Oh shit, he can see me
>OH SHIT, HE CAN SEE ME!!
Loved it.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:27:05 No.104716960 Report

Quoted By: >>104717029

>>104716637
>, to Superman throwing the YOU BLEED back at Batman to look cool when the context makes no sense.
It does make snese. It show Superman has recovered his sense of self and memory by making a call back to what Batman told him in BvsS.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:28:07 No.104716973 Report

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>>104716708
>>104716637
>>104716899
I was specifically asking about the Superman-looking-at-Flash part.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:31:15 No.104717029 Report

Quoted By: >>104717090

>>104716960
Batman had first asked Superman IF HE BLED because he was taunting Superman by putting his humanity, his mortality, his heroism on doubt. He was casting Superman as the Other.

Superman throwing that line back just makes him look like a petulant child who's out to hurt Batman because he had his ego hurt. Of course Batman bleeds. He's human.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:33:20 No.104717071 Report

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>>104716888
I can't tell who made that scenes for that pic. The only ones easy to ell are the one made in post-prod where Superman or Wayne show up.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:34:23 No.104717090 Report

Quoted By: >>104717193

>>104717029
>Superman throwing that line back just makes him look like a petulant child who's out to hurt Batman because he had his ego hurt.
No, he just tell that to show he his back to his old self and has his whole memory back. They hasdn't much of a marking discussion outside of that.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:34:56 No.104717100 Report

Quoted By: >>104717199 >>104717239

>>104716937
Superman power-levels wank and goofy smile literally killed the movie for me. First because the attempt feels artificial and forced. Superman has no other character other than grinning like a retard because that's what the executives expect it's what people want out of him. Second because Superman easily destroyed the villain in the third arc making the entire Justice League look ineffectual and pointless.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:40:00 No.104717181 Report

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>>104716333
shot by Snyder, post-produced by Whedon

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:40:24 No.104717193 Report

Quoted By: >>104717257 >>104717276

>>104717090
They could have used any other thing for that instead of making Superman looking like a fucking jerk-ass. The "bleed" thing whole point is that Batman was a fucking ass who couldn't see Superman as a person, as a human. Thomas Wayne, his father, bled trying to defend his family, so he respected him. Superman couldn't bleed because he's an alien, so he doesn't respect him, that is until he actually make Superman bleed and learn that nope, Superman is also just a guy trying to protect his family as well.

So Superman throwing that back makes Superman look like an asshole and was thrown in there just to "own" Batman and make callbacks to the BvS trailer. It was stupid and cringe-worthy.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:40:33 No.104717199 Report

Quoted By: >>104717239 >>104717269

>>104717100
>making the entire Justice League look ineffectual and pointless.
They are the on who bring him back. I mean, bringing back Superman so he can deal with Steppenwolf was pretty much their plan to start with.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:42:24 No.104717232 Report

Quoted By: >>104717272

>>104716791
>>104716860
Slow mo fit Flash. And I liked most of his scene in slow mo.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:42:50 No.104717239 Report

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>>104717100
>>104717199
The main flaws of this movie are Steppenwolf being the villain, and the strength of Superman. The Justice League is meant to be assembled to deal with issues none of them can tackle alone, especially Superman. Having the plot be Superman getting resurrected just so he can solve the problem is dumb, although that is partly the fault of Snyder for killing him in the first place.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:44:16 No.104717257 Report

Quoted By: >>104717296

>>104717193
>They could have used any other thing for that instead of making Superman looking like a fucking jerk-ass
It does not. Not only is it a call back, but it show one of the first thing Superman care about is that Batman is hurt. It's not a "ahah, I made you bleed". It' a "you are bleeding are you okay ?".

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:44:50 No.104717269 Report

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>>104717199
The problem is that the movie attempt to show Superman as THE STROKEST breaks the movie. There are various to show that Superman is strong without fucking with the other characters. BvS managed to do it. JL doesn't.

I mean, take Wonder Woman from BvS, who's capable of fighting Doomsday, cut his arm, be throw around, and come back smiling. She comes off as a bad-ass as much as Superman, despite Superman being clearly stronger since he fucking survived a nuke.
And take Wonder Woman from JL, who just gets her shit pushed in non-stop. Never gets a win.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:45:05 No.104717272 Report

Quoted By: >>104717291

>>104717232
Slow motion is the laziest way to showcase super speed, and it's ultimately padding out the film. For a character meant to be super fast, his scenes are some of the longest. Flash scenes should be fast, exciting, full of energy. Slow motion should be used sparingly. And yeah I'll fucking say it; making his lightning blue was a dumb design change. It clashes with his colors, and it's muting his design.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:45:18 No.104717276 Report

Quoted By: >>104717296

>>104717193
>and was thrown in there just to "own" Batman
No, it wasn't. it was a call back, but also Supe worrying that Batman was hurt.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:46:19 No.104717291 Report

Quoted By: >>104717339

>>104717272
>Slow motion is the laziest way to showcase super speed,
disagreeing. It's like everything, it's all about how it is done.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:46:39 No.104717296 Report

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>>104717257
>>104717276
Superman wasn't fucking worried about Batman. Superman threw him around and said that as a taunt.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:48:11 No.104717316 Report

Quoted By: >>104721289

gonna watch jl again because of this thread. god fucking damnit

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:49:50 No.104717339 Report

Quoted By: >>104717416

>>104717291
It wasn't done that well, and it gets old after a bit. Like I said, use it sparingly, like a high tension situation where he barely pulls off a stunt to save lives. Doing it repeatedly makes it lose it's charm. Moreover, you want to see Flash go mach 5 and beyond because it's visually interesting to witness.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:53:45 No.104717416 Report

Quoted By: >>104717451

>>104717339
>use it sparingly,
Which was the case in the movie. And the scene where supe look at Flash is precisely one of the good ones.

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Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:55:09 No.104717435 Report

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>>104716333
His face isnt horribly cgi'd so its pribably a Snyder shot. You can tell which is which because the actors were clearky not ready to basically reshoot the whole movie. Ben got fat, Henry couldnt shave his mustache brcause she was filming something else.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:56:18 No.104717451 Report

Quoted By: >>104717539

>>104717416
That's the ONLY time it's used good, and even that is overused. The perfect way it should have been done is slowed down for "the realization", and then picked back up in pace during the actual confrontation. Think about it, 2 comets dashing across Metropolis, causing collateral damage here and there before people in process what even happened, and periodically freeze framing a punch like a camera shot/flash of lightning.

Now THAT would have been better. Barry just slow motion dodging got old with The Matrix

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0 Sat 15 Dec 2018 19:57:30 No.104717470 Report

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>>104716333

just the normalcy of life

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:00:27 No.104717521 Report

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>>104716899
>candidate for iconic moment in cinema next to all the avengers together in avengers 1

Yikes.

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Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:01:31 No.104717539 Report

Quoted By: >>104717583

>>104717451
How would you do superspeed? Because even Quicksilver in the MCU and Fox had slowmo scenes to show o
Howfast they are. I get it can get tiring but its either that or just close up shots of their faces while everything else is a blur.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:03:40 No.104717583 Report

Quoted By: >>104717635

>>104717539
Actually MCU Quicksilver did it right. Sure it did slow motion, but for the most part his actions are pretty cool to witness, despite how few there were.

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Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:07:26 No.104717635 Report

Quoted By: >>104717663 >>104717724

>>104717583
It felt verydiferent than how the flash tv show does it. But if im rememver it right it was mostly him as a blur til he slowed to a stop when he would solidify.
Which brings up why didnt Joss do the same with Flash?

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:09:20 No.104717663 Report

Quoted By: >>104717694 >>104717724

>>104717635
See >>104716887

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Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:11:36 No.104717694 Report

Quoted By: >>104717710 >>104717724

>>104717663
I meant why didnt he change it when editing. They reshot alot of shit. Were the majority of Flash's left untouched?

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:12:52 No.104717710 Report

Quoted By: >>104717790

>>104717694
WB expected Flash to be the breakout fan-favorite and didn't want his scenes to be meddled it.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:13:22 No.104717717 Report

Quoted By: >>104717738 >>104717800

>>104716333
Not this idiot, that's for sure.

You can tell because of the mustache issue

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:13:44 No.104717724 Report

Quoted By: >>104717762 >>104717790 >>104717924

>>104717635
>>104717663
>>104717694
The thing is that Snyder used slow-mo to show how the Flash react to things. There are several action sequences that Flash goes quick. It's just that Whedon, FOR SOME GODDAMN STUPID REASON, cut all of those scenes away.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:14:09 No.104717738 Report

Quoted By: >>104717802

>>104717717
Wedhon didn't just do reshoot, though.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:15:27 No.104717762 Report

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>>104717724
Wouldn't that have made them longer ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:15:45 No.104717770 Report

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>>104716860
>the slo-mo scenes weren't Snyder
yeah sure

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Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:17:03 No.104717790 Report

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>>104717710
Then they should really get to working on that movie
>>104717724
Well those scenes didnt include quips. So thats why they were cut.
Hell he could out scenes we know were shot because they were in the trailers. Yes we know not everything was final but damn it was like a whole different movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:17:42 No.104717800 Report

Quoted By: >>104718125

>>104717717
>mustache
I hear that a lot, but I honestly can't tell. I wouldn't be able to see which scene has it and which doesn't, even if my life depended of it.

And yet, I have see so many people compleining about the "obvious" stache edit, that I wonder if it isn't a naked king scenario.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:17:54 No.104717802 Report

Quoted By: >>104717849 >>104717940

>>104716887
>Superman seeing Flash was Snyder.
Factually and provable incorrect due to mustache gate.

>>104717738
Everything that was a reshoot was handled by Whedon. Whedon had ALREADY re-written parts of Terrio's script and changed things from Cereal Lord, Goyer and Snyder's ideas for the movie, and those were either directed or signed off by the producer (Roven sp?) and Snyder and the WB suits, etc.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:21:00 No.104717849 Report

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>>104717802
>Everything that was a reshoot was handled by Whedon.
Yeah, I know, but my point is, he didn't just do reshhoot or post-prod shooting.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:25:57 No.104717924 Report

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>>104717724
It was literally that one scene where he pushes the Parademon.

Flash was not a fighter in the movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:26:59 No.104717940 Report

Quoted By: >>104718039

>>104717802
>Factually and provable incorrect due to mustache gate.

Look at OP's pic. No digital lip.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:32:27 No.104718039 Report

Quoted By: >>104718102

>>104717940
How do you guys can tell it apart ?

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Spoiler !G06lKU6JL. Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:37:02 No.104718102 Report

Quoted By: >>104718125

>>104718039
Have not seen the movie? The reshots are horribly blurry and unnatural looking. Like a robot is making Henry's mouth movements

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 20:38:37 No.104718125 Report

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>>104718102
see>>104717800
> The reshots are horribly blurry and unnatural looking
I really can't tell the difference.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 21:12:05 No.104718641 Report

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>>104716934

This is most certainly not a good example. I think Whedon has a good handle on somethings. He wrote for Loki very well, he handled Hulk well, any of those scenes in the first avengers movie are good. AoU is pretty much why Whedon is a hack. To keep it on subject tho the one thing I'll say is Quicksilver grabbing Thor's hammer in slow mo was cool and I could see Whedon playing with slow mo in this scene. Which felt like it was an original take based on the lips not looking like ass.

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 21:42:55 No.104719181 Report

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>>104716333
This scene was Snyder´s idea, in fact the scene played out a little different with the cop s and the military getting there, the reason the league jump at superman is because they can see he is going to get violent with the cops which fire at him, that specific, moment where the flash circles Superman and then clark goes at him had originally bullets travelling slowly around the place. Of course someone thought this was too dark. You can see it in the work in progress footage and animatics along some other tidbits like how Mera did this cool thing where she fucks up steppenwolf´s face for awhile, but got taken out as they didnt rework that for his new design

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Anonymous Sat 15 Dec 2018 23:52:15 No.104721289 Report

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>>104717316
god, id forgotten how gadot sucks

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