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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 21:13:18 2018 No.103258661 View Reply Original Report

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What is /co/'s opinion on characters with issues like depression, social anxiety, PTSD, and other mental illnesses? Is it an unnecessary layer of character, or something that makes them more real?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:17:21 No.103258740 Report

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What is /co/'s opinion on characters with traits? Is it an unnecessary layer of character, or something that makes them more real?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:18:13 No.103258761 Report

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>>103258661
It depends, mental iliness shouldn't be the only (or main) trait that the character have, but something they have in spite of their qualities/flaws. Futhermore, you can usually tell when someone give their characters mental illnesses for edge points, like "his second personality is dark and twisted cause he saw his parents die!" or something.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:21:48 No.103258824 Report

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>>103258661
Everybody has depression and anxiety. Especially authors.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:22:45 No.103258841 Report

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fuck off makin

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:26:54 No.103258927 Report

Quoted By: >>103258959 >>103259047

>Character is psychologically flawed, this informs their behavior.
There's nothing wrong with this.
>Character is psychologically flawed, this is used in service to the story's themes.
There's nothing wrong with this.
>Character is psychologically flawed, their entire character is defined by the textbook description of these illnesses.
>Character is psychologically flawed, this means they're CRAAAAZY and I can write whatever I want!
>Character is psychologically flawed, and I share these flaws. My story is self pity.
These are bad.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:28:44 No.103258959 Report

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>>103258927
unironically, the last all remind me of vivziepop

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:33:34 No.103259047 Report

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>>103258927
Don't forget
>character is psychologically flawed, this means they're smarter, deeper, and see the world in ways average people can't.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:38:46 No.103259133 Report

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>>103259047
That's the second one.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:52:05 No.103259352 Report

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>>103258661
What is the image from

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:53:07 No.103259377 Report

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>>103258661
I like it.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 21:55:56 No.103259419 Report

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>>103258661
It shouldn't be the base of their character and personality, but that's exactly what hack writers employed nowadays will make it.
Same with sexual orientation.

Fuck

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:16:27 No.103259876 Report

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>>103259419
The sexual orientation shit is the worst.

>This is my GAY character
>They're VERY GAY
>Likes: BEING GAY
>BTW DID I MENTION THEY'RE GAY

For fuck's sake, learn how to write a real character

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:19:58 No.103259946 Report

Quoted By: >>103260404

>>103258661
I think like pretty much all writing elements that it depends on how the writer handles it. A good writer can use it as a way to help us relate to a character more or give them an obstacle they have to overcome. A bad writer might just think that simply making a character is all they need to do to make a character good so they won't implement it in a smart way. The same can be said for things like LGBT representation. If it doesn't completely define the character and serves to help the writing it can make a character more complex and interesting.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:33:38 No.103260219 Report

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>>103258761
But what if a character like this is based off a person the writer personally knows (e.g. A friend or family member)? Does that still make it bad writing?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:36:11 No.103260259 Report

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>>103259876
And they guilt trip gays to praise it or else they'd get smacked with a "internalized homophobia" label or similar.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:38:17 No.103260301 Report

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>>103259876i hate that shit, or really any forced representation. You aren't making a character at that point, you're just trying to get points for being "different" when really you're just making people not want representation in media anymore.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:40:33 No.103260345 Report

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>>103260219
Well, a character based on a real person is usually more nuanced. So, if said character is represented as a cliche/edgy mentally sick person despite being based of a real person, then I would be kinda worried about how the author perceives this person. And yes, it would still be bad writing.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:43:36 No.103260404 Report

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>>103259946
This is the truth. You do it well enough, and any trait is okay. Execution is everything.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:51:37 No.103260530 Report

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>>103258661
OP pic seems like prime surprise butt sex edit Material

Really someone my photo cut in a black guy grabbing her and shit would be funny.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:54:59 No.103260575 Report

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>>103260530
It would work because she is always unintentionally fuckable

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 22:56:59 No.103260605 Report

Quoted By: >>103275194

>>103260259
Repeat the same shit with representation of any gender or sexuality, or hell, even ethnicity.

The weak willed get guilt tripped into supporting vapid "representation", and whomever dare criticize it is ousted as a white debil patriarchy piggu.

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 23:36:05 No.103261191 Report

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>>103259876
does that even happen outside tumblr OCs/headcanons?

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Anonymous Sat 29 Sep 2018 23:50:48 No.103261435 Report

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>>103261191
That's literally what at least half of the horny shitty teens and unadapted pseudo artist that reside in Deviantart, furaffinity and all those other places do.
I don't check webcomic hosting sites, but i bet you anything that a good chunk of the material there has that kind of character too.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:02:40 No.103261680 Report

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>>103259352
the image is from oceanfalls

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:02:57 No.103261686 Report

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>>103261435
Well, still. It's only brainfarts of horny teenagers.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:07:04 No.103261762 Report

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>>103260575
Oh man now I must know where she's from and does she actually get fucked

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:17:40 No.103261988 Report

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>>103261686
Oh no. One of my friends currently has a webcomic that's about lesbians who solve mysteries. That's it. They're like 27.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:18:29 No.103261999 Report

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>>103258661
>>103260575
Where is she from

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:29:01 No.103262195 Report

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>>103261999
she's from a comic called oceanfalls

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:32:59 No.103262281 Report

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>>103258661
Reminds me of Deep Sea Prisoner's art.
Is there lots of rape?

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:39:27 No.103262391 Report

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>>103262281
Speaking of Deep Sea Prisoner, when is their next game coming out? We've been waiting since forever.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 00:44:55 No.103262479 Report

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>>103262195
Thanks man

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 01:19:12 No.103263341 Report

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>>103262391
Gaiden resuming development I've heard.

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 01:41:29 No.103264057 Report

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>>103258661
if handled by a skilled writer i think it makes characters a lot more interesting. it's not common at all but i love it when characters are emotionally affected by the weight of their actions
>>103262281
>dsp ever updating
lol

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 02:21:05 No.103265292 Report

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>>103258740
top kek

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 03:17:34 No.103267228 Report

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>>103258661
like everything, it's all in the execution

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 04:44:36 No.103270465 Report

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>>103258661
its always grating with a girl

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 05:29:08 No.103272002 Report

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>>103262281
Not yet

Just very cute waifus

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 08:25:05 No.103274995 Report

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>>103272002
Is this new? Felt I've seen this before

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Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 08:45:05 No.103275173 Report

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>>103258661
As long as the character's issue is not their leading trait and there's more to it. Then I don't have a problem with them.

But if you're going to be just using that character for bullshit stupid shit without anything else on point then it's fucking idiotic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 30 Sep 2018 08:48:17 No.103275194 Report

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>>103260605
That's literally happening now on co in a Lily Peet thread

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