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Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 23:49:51 2018 No.102793224 View Reply Original Report

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One year later, what are your final opinions of Spider-Man Homecoming? How does it rank up to the other Spider-Man movies and how does it work as a comic adaptation?

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Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 23:51:07 No.102793242 Report

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It's good. Leave your (You)'s below

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 05 Sep 2018 23:52:24 No.102793267 Report

Quoted By: >>102794813

Personaly I like Raimi way more because it show how costly it would be for a teenager/young man to be a superhero.

Homecoming felt like a generic "kid got superpowers" story

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:00:51 No.102793420 Report

Quoted By: >>102793821 >>102793890

>>102793224
Its mediocre at best and is made worse by the fact that Marvel had the chance to start fresh and make the best Spider-Man movie and yet produced this turd. Not sure what Fiege was thinking.

>not enough Keaton
>Vulture is an underdeveloped villain
>terrible supporting characters (like seriously just give us Harry, MJW, etc…)
>miscasting on multiple levels
>Spider-Man has become Flanderized at this point
>Same shitty suit from Civil War with too many random black lines
>Too much Iron Man and Happy Hogan (anything more than a cameo would be too much)
>Giving Spider-Man a tech suit turning him into Iron-Boy
>Lousy CGI
>Taking a large part of the action out of NYC
etc…

As bad as the ASM movies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:05:00 No.102793494 Report

Quoted By: >>102793821

>>102793224
Its fine, and that's the problem. It's fundamental flaw is avoiding previous beats from past movies to the point of being bare bones. For fuck sake people, his supporting cast is fucking gone. I think what pisses me off most about this Peter is not ever winning a fight, and we NEVER got the skyskraper webslinger we deserved. Just look at Raimi's; its exciting and full energy. I don't want some Ferris Buller shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:06:38 No.102793525 Report

Quoted By: >>102793821

It's alright. The Peter Parker in Homecoming hardly resembles Peter Parker from either the 616 or the Ultimate universes, but I like what his character was.
Lots of miscast side characters, but they're understandable.
The CGI was awful. Not Black Panther bad, but pretty fuckin bad.
I really didn't like the suit AI, but it was fun.
Overall a 7-8/10. It's pretty good, but it has flaws.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:14:35 No.102793656 Report

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>>102793224
Easily better than all the others except arguably the second raimi film.

This is objective fact.

Michael Keaton was a perfect casting even if it was a different take on the villain. The scene between he and Peter in the car was some of the best acting I've seen in years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:20:21 No.102793764 Report

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Holland is good and Keaton is great, but otherwise it was just okay. It tries too hard to be different from the other films with dumb shit like the Stark suit and it's frustrating that the "film canon" Spider-Man is so different from the comics counterpart outside of maybe Peter himself and yet everyone laps it up. Really its biggest problem is that it moves too fast and lacks the emotional weight that a good Spidey story should have. Not enough time to get invested in anything going by the time the film tries to ape the "If This Be My Destiny" iconic moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:21:19 No.102793782 Report

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>>102793224
While grappling with the issue of a teenage super-hero acting independently in a world with many adult super-heroes it does a good job of being an enjoyable movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:23:32 No.102793821 Report

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>>102793420
>>102793494
>>102793525
I get the feeling the supporting cast is gonna get booted once Pete reaches college. Marvel are probably holding back to try get the rights from Sony first

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:27:33 No.102793890 Report

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>>102793420
>Too much Iron Man and Happy Hogan (anything more than a cameo would be too much)
That was my feeling too. It's like they didn't feel confident enough in Spider-Man selling a movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:39:02 No.102794136 Report

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>>102793224
They made one of the only old ladies who is a relatively important in universe character into a milf for sales, ironically they pushed diversity really hard in the same movie. It was a fun movie though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:42:31 No.102794204 Report

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>>102793890
No, it's because it's an MCU Spider-Man movie. Everyone wanted Spider-Man in the MCU and now that he is everyone is piased that they're involving him with the other existing characters. If they don't do it now then they'll never get to because most of the Avengers are done after the next movie, especially RDJ who is the star of the MCU. l'm also pretty sure there's some clause in the Sony contract that say they have to include him with other MCU characters. That was after all the deal in the first place.

I'm not saying anyone has to like it or prefer it to Raimi (although he changed plenty of shit too) but it should be incredibly obvious why circumstances dictated they go this route.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:42:45 No.102794210 Report

Quoted By: >>102794321 >>102794467

>>102794136
It doesn't really make sense for a 15-year-old boy to have a 70-year-old aunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:49:07 No.102794321 Report

Quoted By: >>102794659 >>102795904

>>102794210
Why not?
>When Peter is 15, May is 70, and Mary is dead
>When Peter is born, May is 55, and Mary could be in her mid 30's
It's a large age gap but stranger things have happened

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:55:23 No.102794435 Report

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>>102794204
seems like we'll still get shitty MCU tie ins since nick fury and shield play a big part in the next movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:56:48 No.102794467 Report

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>>102794210
Its pretty common?
My mother was 50 when I was born; by the time I was 15 her sister was 65

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 00:59:50 No.102794522 Report

Quoted By: >>102797444

>>102793224
The CGI is abosolutey horrid, you can literraly see the rendering lines in Tony Stark's face when he was scolding spiderman.

the forced father and son dynamic gets really old quick

the rest of the cast is an abomination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 01:07:58 No.102794659 Report

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>>102794321
That, roughly the age gap between my mom and her oldest brother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 01:13:47 No.102794771 Report

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No one wants to see highschool Peter again.
even teenagefags from highschool dont want to see it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 01:15:55 No.102794813 Report

Quoted By: >>102797322

>>102793267
I suppose I can agree with this. Homecoming was largely Peter proving himself to Stark and becoming a bit more mature in his idea of what a hero was.

I really wish we had an older Peter, though. Holland sounds waaaay too young to take seriously at times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:04:06 No.102795904 Report

Quoted By: >>102796174 >>102796294

>>102794321
But May is Peter's mother anon

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Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:16:36 No.102796174 Report

Quoted By: >>102796463

>>102795904
It was a great Spider-Man movie, but comparing it to the other live-action adaptations is unfair to both it and them. Ultimately, a lot of this movie's critique comes from a major case of 'not muh'. Which is especially weird in this case because when the movie was announced people moaned and groaned about oversaturing the IP. And yet, Homecoming subverts all expectations and standards of a live action Spider-Man movie and offers a refreshing, original take on the character and its subuniverse.

The action was fun, the costumes great, Vulture was a major highlight, and for the MCU's first movie dealing with literal kids all the younger characters were done pretty well. The villain being the love interest's benevolent father was an outright rejection of Sam Raimi's formula, and so was saving him instead of letting him melt to death in his own destroyed armor.

All in all, fantastic movie, even if RDJ's immersion-breaking inclusion as Tony Stark keeps it from being master class.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:22:48 No.102796294 Report

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>>102795904
Fuck off, that shit's not canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:32:11 No.102796463 Report

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>>102796174
> Ultimately, a lot of this movie's critique comes from a major case of 'not muh’

Don’t really agree. I feel that’s a valid argument for at least the first Amazing Spiderman, which is very flawed but it has moments. Spiderman Homecoming in comparison had much more acceptance. And people on here usual bring up flaws that pertain to the movie.

Like I would’ve loved more Keaton and less RDJ mugging or Happy Hogan. Zendaya is pretty cool but the other side characters have more screen time and are just written much more obnoxiously, like that obvious “it’s a 30 something guy writing for teens”. I would’ve loved a Spiderman with a John Hughes vibe, but the movie is never as well written as a Breakfast Club or as funny as a Ferris Bueller, and it kinda makes me pissed that they leaned so hard into selling it like that when it’s an even more mediocre Ant Man, which I actually enjoyed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:39:01 No.102796601 Report

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>>102793224
>what are your final opinions of Spider-Man Homecoming?
It had it's decent parts, such as a complete reimagining of a character that actually worked, in Vulture. But other than that it was pretty shit, non Vulture scenes just felt like an episode of Hannah Montana or Lab Rats.

>How does it rank up to the other Spider-Man movies
None of them have been perfect, I would put it beneath the first two Raimis and both ASM, but above SM3

>how does it work as a comic adaptation?

It doesn't in the slightest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:40:28 No.102796630 Report

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Feige seems to think the most important aspect of Spider-Man is high school.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:40:35 No.102796632 Report

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>>102793224
>what are your final opinions of Spider-Man Homecoming?
Mediocre. Too much Tony Stark and Peter acting like his bitch. Suit AI was retarded and unnecessary, it was there just to make more jokes.
> How does it rank up to the other Spider-Man movies
For me it goes like this
>Spider-Man 2
>Spider-Man
>ASM
>Spider-Man 3
>Homecoming
>ASM2

>how does it work as a comic adaptation?
Terrible. Just terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:50:34 No.102796815 Report

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>>102793224
Felt the same as Ragnarok. It was good. Not muh hero, I'd rather have Harry and Gwen, Uncle Ben, etc but worked pretty well for their universe. I'd rape it right behind the first two Raimi movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:51:27 No.102796831 Report

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>>102794467
How could your mom get pregnant after menopause?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:54:26 No.102796878 Report

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Terrible and worst Peter Parker ever. It's like they changed last minute Miles Morales for Peter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 02:58:35 No.102796939 Report

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>>102793224
ironman 7 is by far the best movie the MCU has done in this whole decade hands down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 03:19:13 No.102797322 Report

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>>102794813
Spider-Man started when he was 15, so having him in high school for the first movie is alright. Raimi's did it as well, but pushed him into his college years after an hour.

With the MCU moving at the same speed as the real world, he'll be a HS senior in the upcoming movie, then in college for the next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 03:20:51 No.102797346 Report

Quoted By: >>102797407 >>102797643 >>102797968

stark is in the film for SEVEN minutes. SEVEN. 7. SEVEN.

you too much starkfags are worse than not muh mandarinfags from IM3.

karen as an AI in the suit is how they can have peter thought bubble/monologue like in the comics. it was clever. there was enough keaton because every time he showed up, it was tension enough. twist was legit one of the best ones in a while. only bad part was the flash miscast. he should've been an blonde chad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 03:23:17 No.102797386 Report

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>>102793224
Sony made a huge mistake in not bringing a fresh and new view of Harry Osborn, Gwen and Mary Jane
It was a mistake to put the villain back on him agaaaaain
knowing Spider's identity and being close to him, agaaaaaaain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 03:24:28 No.102797407 Report

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>>102797346
>only bad part was the flash miscast.
Yeah, I don't see this kid enlisting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 03:26:30 No.102797444 Report

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>>102794522
the physics and animation are bad when the spider is flying in the webs
He seems to have no weight.
this is a mistake of the CG company and the directors who are not paying attention

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 03:37:36 No.102797643 Report

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>>102797346
The problem with Stark is not that he had cameos, it's that Spider-Man was turned into his sidekick/nephew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 03:58:04 No.102797968 Report

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>>102797346
>karen as an AI in the suit is how they can have peter thought bubble/monologue like in the comics
I get it, but what's the point? Why couldn't they just have him monologueing without this retarded AI? It kills the whole idea of Spider-Man being a lonely hero swinging around town with his head full of thoughts.
> it was clever.
No it wasn't. It's only purpose was to create more awkward and """""""funny""""""" moments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 04:02:41 No.102798025 Report

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>>102793224
It had some good bits (fuck yeah Vulture) but it was too obsessed with reinventing the wheel. I understand why they did most of what they did, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. Really hope future movies lay off the fucking Iron Man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 04:13:13 No.102798217 Report

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>>102793224
Average movie with meh script that is carried heavily by the lead and the villain. 7/10

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Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 04:53:50 No.102798855 Report

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>>102793224
I enjoyed Spiderman. I hated Peter Parker.
Hollands voice was perfect when it was coming from Spiderman's mask. Hollands voice coming from Peter Parker made me recoil in disgust.
He was too weak for me, hamdingering off Stark's dumbass shiny robo cock.

Yes, I get that we have seen the origin story of every hero in every movie, but the fact that they brushed over it because muh MCU pissed me off. I only like certain capeshit so I needed my friend to explain to me how the fuck and why Stark's dumbass was in my Spiderman movie.

Oh he made a cameo in a previous movie and now is babied while never truly learning his lesson because the dumbass still exposes himself to yet another person that could fuck shit up for him in the future.

Basically I enjoyed it, but it needed more Spiderman. In case you think I'm being too harsh I watched this on Friday with my friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 05:07:00 No.102799012 Report

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>>102793224
>what are your final opinions of Spider-Man Homecoming
still wanna fug aunt may

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 05:07:57 No.102799025 Report

Quoted By: >>102799326

>>102793224
It’s a great minor key entry in the MCU, on par with Doctor Strange and Ant-Man (better than Ant-Man and the Wasp). The youth angle is just enough to set it apart from the pack.

On the other hand, it’s not nearly unique or engaging enough to launch a concurrent SCU (or SUMC or whatever the hell Sony is calling their side of things). It’s like in Multiplicity when they tried to clone the clone.

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Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 05:16:20 No.102799129 Report

Quoted By: >>102800103

>>102793224
As a movie:
Raimi films(Spidey 2>1>3)>Homecoming>ASM1>ASM2
As a Spider-Man movie:
Raimi films(2>3>1)>ASM1>ASM2>>>>>>>>>Homecoming

It's incredibly depressing because it actually seemed like the MCU could have a really great Spidey back in Civil War.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 05:16:42 No.102799134 Report

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>>102793224
i thought it was really shitty, particularly the supporting cast. there's literally not a single character in that category the film gets right. pete/spidey is only ok, mediocre-ish

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Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 05:18:28 No.102799159 Report

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>>102793224

I really liked his best friend.

It helped establish that Peter really is just a nerdy student with a separate normal life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 05:33:27 No.102799326 Report

Quoted By: >>102799987

>>102799025
They cloned the clone two or three times in Multiplicity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 06:26:00 No.102799987 Report

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>>102799326
They cloned the clone once in Multiplicity, and that double-clone turned out retarded, just like the Sony spider-verse will be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 06 Sep 2018 06:37:14 No.102800103 Report

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>>102799129
>Raimi
>ASM
>Homecoming
This makes me realize something. Without using google, can anyone even recall the name of the director for Homecoming? Even ASM, as shit as those films may have been, had “Marc Webb” associated with them. You could remember his name just from that coincidental cue.

I think it’s pretty telling when the production of a movie is so generic and by-the-numbers that the director’s name has zero significance.

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