>>102332674>because the writer is not skilled enough, ... ends up as a plain character who serves the plot that eventually is going to paint the heroic protagonist as the rightful one.Personally that's my biggest problem with the Batfamily right now.
Bruce is an asshole who is always justified in being an asshole because he's "right" at the end of the day, and the Robins more often than not are the recipients of his being an asshole, but are relegated to being the same character who beside a difference in age, or weapon of choice, are really only different in RPG terms by tops, 5 statistical points.
I think they could all be more if they were allowed to be more complex.
Just so we are clear, my determination of Jason being compelling as a villain, only goes so far as his committing acts that would deem him an anti-villain. His being a murdering vigilante, and therefore a black sheep, wouldn't necessarily get his ass thrown in Gotham with the characters who per your parameters are villains, but it creates a clear delineation that with neither having necessarily done anything wrong, makes Bruce and Jason fair from a motivational standpoint for feeling the way that they do. And keep in mind, I only ever used Jason as an example of how the Robins could be used on a deeper, fuller basis than I feel they're being used at the moment.
I think at the end of the day, you and I agree much more than we may disagree, and that disagreement was based more on a shallower use of terminology on my part than yours which per your more recent post, I would describe as much more nuanced. For that I apologize.
>because I'm a sucker or retention and character development into better human beings, I wish him to go anti-hero and, maybe, someday, full grown hero.I'm right there with you brother. The only thing that keeps me from feeling that way about Jason is I think he has every justifiable reason in the world to be an anti-villain, and not think less of him for it.
