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Genndy Tartakovsky

Anonymous Sun 08 Jul 23:56:20 2018 No.101573845 View Reply Original Report

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Is this man a visionary (early Dexter's Lab and Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack)? Is he a hack?
Are the Hotel Transylvania films even good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jul 2018 23:57:49 No.101573872 Report

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>>101573845
jaded visionary

you can get a better art education by watching samurai jack by itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jul 2018 23:59:07 No.101573890 Report

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>>101573845
How the fuck is he a hack? It's not his fault the Hotel Tranny movies aren't that great. He animated them the best he could. And even then, they're mediocre at worst. (I haven't seen the third.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 08 Jul 2018 23:59:48 No.101573907 Report

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>>101573890
people dont get that there's stuff you do for a paycheck

working with adam sandler must be very fun and relaxing plus you get big money

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:01:23 No.101573935 Report

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>>101573845
Everything he does looks good and unique, but he did stumble with the storytelling with Dragon Ball Wars and Jack ending.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:01:30 No.101573937 Report

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>>101573845
>Dexters Lab - Great (pre-Savino)
>Powerpuff Girls - Great (pre-redesigns)
>Samurai Jack - Fantastic (S5 hit or miss)
>Sym-Bionic Titan - Good (writing could've been better)

He has a solid track record.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:04:16 No.101573972 Report

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>>101573890
>Ripping off Gurren Lagann's ending
Yeah he's a hack

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:06:39 No.101574010 Report

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>>101573845
/co/ doesnt like ambiguity, we only see things binary. So we like to pretend that someone is either BASED or HACK like there's nothing in between. The truth is Genndy like most authors or artists is a human- he works really hard, his taste ranges from cool to a little stale, some of his work hits, some of it misses, but he keeps creating and trying. You can make a shitty cartoon and then make a good one after. Thats how it is in the real industry outside of this board

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:07:36 No.101574022 Report

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>>101573845
He is genuinely one of the best in the industry with one of the most consistent quality track records out there. The first Hotel Transylvania was actually pretty good and I suspect he only stayed on there for the money and in the hopes of eventually getting that Popeye film made.
He's also filed trademark on a new show called Primal too, so there's that to look forwards to.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:12:56 No.101574087 Report

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I loved Titan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:14:32 No.101574108 Report

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Is Sym-Bionic Titan good? Only series of his I haven't seen. He seems to hit home runs as long as he has the necessary control over the production of his work (something I imagine he got with Powerpuff Girls despite not being creator, and something he probably doesn't have as much of as far as Hotel Transylvania)

I think he's unironically the standout of our era desu senpai. From the Space Ghost episode to now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:21:37 No.101574217 Report

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I was saying for years that he was a hack and I was proved right.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:26:03 No.101574290 Report

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>TFW Genndy could have made Popeye which would have been the most faithful to the property without the cringy modern pop reference
>Amy Pascal fucks it up for Popeye
It hurts anon

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:26:18 No.101574292 Report

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>>101573845
First HT was most excellent. 2nd one a little less so. Haven't seen the 3rd yet.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:27:24 No.101574308 Report

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>>101574290
Reference on what i'm talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:39:40 No.101574451 Report

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>>101574217
How were u proved right anon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:49:47 No.101574582 Report

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>>101574108
It's great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:52:52 No.101574620 Report

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>>101573845
he's a kike

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 00:58:10 No.101574673 Report

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>>101573845

He's the Imaishi of the West.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 01:03:53 No.101574748 Report

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>>101573890
>>101573907
Yeah, the only reason he accepted Hotel T in the first place was in exchange for doing the Popeye movie and his own original film called Can You Imagine, both now canceled

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 01:08:48 No.101574810 Report

Quoted By: >>101575022

When Primal comes out on Adult Swim we'll know for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 01:13:26 No.101574866 Report

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>>101574108
His best work.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 01:23:18 No.101575022 Report

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>>101574810
>Primal premiers
>every episode is an encapsulation of Tartakovsky's burning rage for the animation industry

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 01:30:11 No.101575119 Report

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>>101574308
>>101574290
Didn't Pascal basically run all of Sony Pictures into the ground?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 01:34:20 No.101575174 Report

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>>101574308
I don't get it. What happened after the email? This explains nothing. Its a shitty reference.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 01:49:00 No.101575357 Report

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>>101574217
Great! Take this and pat yourself on the back for a job well done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 01:57:18 No.101575469 Report

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>>101573845
Gendy is a genius and visionary, just watch Symbionic Titan and it becomes very clear. Remember, hotel Transylvania isn't a Gendy film its an Adam Sandler movie. As a point of reference, the only other Adam Sandler animated movie is 8 Crazy Nights and its shit. Hell, John K himself said Gendy was good, and he hates everything!

>>101574108
Titan at first glance seems really stupid. Then you watch it and realize its brilliant. It somehow does the best adaptation of Ender's Game there is in a 20 minute flashback episode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 02:14:33 No.101575734 Report

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>>101574308
>bob osher was fired later
Damn, he took a big hit for genndy
Amy Pascal truly has no soul

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 02:16:49 No.101575780 Report

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>>101573937
What? Symbionic titan has the best writing out of all his shows, otherwise i agree with what you said

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 03:08:57 No.101576718 Report

Quoted By: >>101579715

Old Dexter's and Powerpuff Girls are masterpieces. Samurai Jack is probably the best looking cartoon of it's decade (says a lot considering the technological advances that occurred after it), and Titan is great.
He's like the Stanley Kubrick of cartoons

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 04:30:11 No.101578485 Report

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My b

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 04:36:59 No.101578597 Report

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>>101574108
>Is Sym-Bionic Titan good?
it's all over the goddamn place
the show has no idea what it wants to be most of the season: it stumbles from monster of the week to kaiju of the week to parody of the week (tokyo drift, buffy), the actual "save galaluna" arc doesn't exist outside of first and the very last episode.

It's still neat if directionless.

Either way Genndy is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKJcIY1NbRM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 04:42:53 No.101578681 Report

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>>101573845
theyre good

you just have to ignore the infection of Adam Sandler. Besides Sandlers screaming voice, friends voice, and ad libbed jokes, its amazing how he made 3d look like classic animation. its great

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 04:45:12 No.101578717 Report

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>>101578597
I feel the exact same way. It's got the spark of being an amazing show, but it had no direction and was in no rush to really go anywhere. I honestly didn't care for it while it was airing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 05:03:51 No.101579036 Report

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>>101575119
>>101575174
what did this bitch do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 05:06:51 No.101579098 Report

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>>101579036
Pascal is responsible for alot of Sony's dumb decisions in their movie department in recent years. It's gone to the point that everyone is openly wondering why the hell she hasn't been fired yet. She's been bumped down in position (usually when one of her backed projects does terrible like Ghostbusters) then brought back up when the heat dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 05:09:48 No.101579144 Report

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>>101578681
How much influence can Sandler have?
Was what we got close to Genndy's vision?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 05:50:15 No.101579715 Report

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>>101576718
>technological advances
>implying digital art didnt completely fuck the 2000s

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 05:56:43 No.101579792 Report

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>>101579144
Sandler shoe-horned in writing the second half
of 2. Most days he was literally brought in to stand
behind the storyboard guys and either nod or
shake his head. And then later was heading up
about 2/3rds of the follow up vacation movie. It
quickly became more of a pain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 05:58:40 No.101579818 Report

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He's one of the greats. Even his work that I don't care for is still wonderful artistically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 05:59:35 No.101579830 Report

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>>101578597

> the actual "save galaluna" arc doesn't exist outside of first and the very last episode.

It's unlikely that they intended the ending to be that abrupt.

The intent for the show was clear, it was a love letter to the action cartoons of yore - containing an overarcing goal and a recurring cast of characters whose relationships develop within the frame of that goal, but overall extremely episodic.

It never got a chance to move beyond that because it barely had an entire season to work with. The sporadic feeling was most certainly intentional though I'd agree Genndy just in general writes shows that way (see: Samurai Jack) so it perhaps felt especially apparent here, compounded by it being canned before the season even finished airing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:02:31 No.101579858 Report

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>>101579792
Was it any close to the original vision?
Is the humor that's present in most of movies apparent here too?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:15:11 No.101579995 Report

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>>101579144
>>101579792
>>101579858

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:17:08 No.101580018 Report

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>>101579995
damn, that honesty

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:18:16 No.101580031 Report

Quoted By: >>101580129

Is it true that Genndy is working with custom made 3D software that only he can access? Bceause that's probably the reason he still works there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:27:41 No.101580129 Report

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>>101580031
Can you imagine a pixar/disney movie with genndy as lead animator and director?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:27:50 No.101580132 Report

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>>101579995
Seems like a shitty situation for him, but hey I guess he's getting money out of it. Sort of restores my faith though, and definitely gets my hopes up for his next project. It's been nice milking the cash cow but it's time to put out more of your own stuff.
Where's the information on his new show? Or is it just rumors at this point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:34:23 No.101580196 Report

Quoted By: >>101580374

>>101580129
That would be unreal but I bet their editorial and directorial hands are at least as heavy as Adam Sandler's

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:36:15 No.101580225 Report

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>>101573845
Well like the hotel movies are okay, but they suffer from a lot from the fact that their lead is just Adam Sandler trying to do his funny voice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:36:37 No.101580232 Report

Quoted By: >>101580251

>>101580129
WTF would he make? All I can think of is some character centered story about a troubled soldier/warrior type that tries to fight the big evil bad. But it's paced like an underdog sports movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:38:08 No.101580251 Report

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>>101580232
Could cash out and sell out hard on a Samurai Jack movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:43:19 No.101580326 Report

Quoted By: >>101581038

>>101573845

Hotel Transylvania isn't a good MOVIE but it's some of the most visually interesting CGI animation being made in the big budget Hollywood system. You can see Genndy's touch and the visual gags and direction are all solid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:45:46 No.101580374 Report

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>>101580129
>>101580196
A fear of complacency is what convinced them to bet their money on an outsider, Brad Bird. They need to pay that strategy another visit and give Genndy a shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:53:19 No.101580476 Report

Quoted By: >>101580506

I think he use to be closer to a visionary, or at least someone very good at their job. Not everyone gets better at their job with age and experience, sometime in creative fields people stagnate. I think that's what happened with Genndy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:55:59 No.101580506 Report

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>>101580476
Its more of when he is goid he is extremely good
When he is bad he is just mediocre
The project depends on what version of him we are getting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 06:56:34 No.101580513 Report

Quoted By: >>101581437

>>101579995
as long as he getting paid, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 07:36:55 No.101580941 Report

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>>101574108
>Is Sym-Bionic Titan good
My second most beloved animated series (after Oban). But you do have to love certain elements to truly enjoy it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 07:48:56 No.101581038 Report

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>>101580326
does anyone have any webm's of the animations from HT?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 08:24:11 No.101581292 Report

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>>101573845
Adam Sandlers voice "acting" makes my ears bleed. This ugly abortion is the uglist little shit ive ever seen in a kids movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 08:43:27 No.101581413 Report

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>>101581292
are any of them good VA's?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 08:47:28 No.101581437 Report

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>>101580513
>agree to direct terrible movies so you can make your own
>they cancel all your movies anyways
being genndy is suffering

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 08:51:44 No.101581456 Report

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>>101581437
Jesus Christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 09:03:18 No.101581517 Report

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>>101581437
what's wrong with popeye, and why is she such a cunt?

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 09:57:30 No.101581843 Report

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>>101581437
So did all of this boil down to her PERSONALLY not liking it? Despite how test screenings were strong and audiences were positive? WHAT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 12:08:45 No.101582733 Report

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>>101581843
what do you think we means? idk who amy pascal is but I really doubt that whether or not Sony spends millions of dollars making a movie is entirely one person's decision.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 12:21:40 No.101582819 Report

Quoted By: >>101584026

>>101581517
nothing, Popeye could sell today probably, but this is AMY PASCAL we're talking about. The big brain behind these shitty spidey spin offs, going behind Dan Akyroyd's back to make that shitty nu ghost busters, making tons of horrible decisions that has lost sony's movie division millions, you know, that bloated sak of shit filled with bad ideas? her.
>>101581843
>>101582733
Amy Pascal is an idiot and almost led ot the closure of sony's movie division. It really is mostly up to her, and she really is that fucking stupid, no idea why the nips haven't clamped down and fired her dumb ass yet, it's gonna take the silver sable, black cat, and MORBIUS spin offs tanking to do that I guess. Venom will do well though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 12:28:00 No.101582870 Report

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>>101573845
Overrated Russian jew who reuses the same "sword unsheathing" sound effect six trillion times.

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 12:30:30 No.101582893 Report

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>>101581437
That's only half the story.
At first he agreed to one shit movie (Hotel), one movie of an existing property that he wanted to make (Popeye), and one movie of his own original property (Can You Imagine).

Then it turned into two shit movies, one existing-property movie, and one original movie.

Then it turned into three shit movies and one original movie.

Then it just turned into three shit movies.

Tartakovsky needs better lawyers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 14:39:53 No.101584026 Report

Quoted By: >>101584243

>>101582819
>going behind Dan Akyroyd's back to make that shitty nu ghost busters
what's this story?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 15:00:01 No.101584243 Report

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>>101584026
It wasn't behind anybody's back. Sony wanted to make the film and the original main cast had contracts that they have to be involved, and they were involved. It's just that almost none of their creative input was put in the film, so you ended up with a fart comedy instead of the wittiness of the original Ghostbusters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 15:08:24 No.101584362 Report

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>>101581843
Looking at the other email from that Bob guy, I'll bet a dollar Pascal thought Popeye was an old. dead franchise modern audiences couldn't relate to and it needed a modern twist like the Smurfs movies, despite Tintin making a shitload of money and not having that.

Read between the lines here >>101574308
if Bob Osher had to say "Worry about the kids, Amy, not the peripheral general audience, the focus groups are strong and it doesn't need to be super modern in setting.". She wanted Popeye to go to New York or something and Genny put his foot down and it got his movie canceled because that's how Hollywood works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 15:08:25 No.101584363 Report

Quoted By: >>101587673

>>101579098
She's also one of the few woman CEO's of a major company, perhaps she hasn't been canned because Sony doesn't want the bad press of firing her with the assumption being that they fired her for being a woman and not for being a moron that cost them more than just money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 15:13:12 No.101584433 Report

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>>101584362
>She wanted Popeye to go to New York
kek, my sides

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 15:33:06 No.101584699 Report

Quoted By: >>101584839

>>101584362
>Genny put his foot down
Genndy didn't insist on anything in particular, he would have done the film one way or the other if they'd just greenlit it. Sony chucked a whole bunch of animated films after the shakeup, I don't think it was anything in particular to do with Tartakovsky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 15:44:25 No.101584839 Report

Quoted By: >>101587750

>>101584699
>mfw we could've gotten a samurai jack tier movie with popeye
>popeye could've been famous and good movies could finally go to Sony Animation
>woman didn't like old timey stuff
>getting black spiderman with bendis tier writing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 16:39:39 No.101585565 Report

Quoted By: >>101586921 >>101588068

>>101573845
I've seen the end to Samurai Jack.
Whatever he was before, he's a hack now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 18:18:13 No.101586921 Report

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>>101585565
What do you think of the reboot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 18:27:08 No.101587057 Report

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He is dead to me after Samurai Jack's season 5 fiasco.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 19:04:05 No.101587673 Report

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>>101584363
How about just hiring a better female CEO and firing her terrible ass? Assuming that what this thread is true- even taking into account the proabable exaggerations- the bar is pretty low for anybody wanting to do better than her. Sony’s output will at least improve partially, though it’s guaranteed that she’s also surrounded by people as bad as her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 19:08:46 No.101587750 Report

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>>101584839
Well, let’s keep in mind that her fellow executives are agreeing with her sentiment on the Popeye movie- imcompentence might be a common trend. It’s possible their employments might need a possible purging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 19:32:10 No.101588068 Report

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>>101585565
this. he had 1 season and he did such a shitty job. it could have been legendary

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Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 19:33:46 No.101588097 Report

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>>101584362
>cartoon characters going into the real world
How long until execs realize that idea is fucking retarded and nobody wants to see their favorite character dancing to some stupid pop song.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 09 Jul 2018 19:50:39 No.101588378 Report

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>>101581437
Isn't she the cunt behind the ghostbusters remake?

I bet she hates Popeye because he always rescues his sticcckc girlfriend from the chad Bluto.

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