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Anonymous Wed 02 May 14:27:26 2018 No.100223052 View Reply Original Report

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So, is she dead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 14:39:48 No.100223241 Report

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>>100223052
Russo said she and some Asgardians fled in escape pods.

https://www.inverse.com/article/44369-avengers-infinity-war-valkyrie-survive-thanos-attack-tessa-thompson

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 14:44:25 No.100223319 Report

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>>100223241
They could have at least show an escape pod, or just have thor say something like "I'm happy that at least some of my people managed to escape" during the movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 14:45:50 No.100223341 Report

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>>100223319
They said that only half the Asgardians were killed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 14:46:05 No.100223347 Report

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>>100223052
I hope not. She was cute.

Spinoff with Korg when? Does Marvel have another obscure cosmic team like Guardians before the movie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 14:48:27 No.100223389 Report

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>>100223052
I hope so

racebending is just cancer

Black Panther proved that actual Black characters can work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 14:49:15 No.100223406 Report

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>>100223389
It's been over a year since she was cast. Let it go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 14:55:26 No.100223507 Report

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>>100223389
they pretty clearly showed that she isn't Brunnhilde, so im not sure how you stretch girlfriend to racebend

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 14:56:40 No.100223524 Report

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Some people speculate that Thanos allowed half of the people on the ship to run away.

Then killed the other half.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:35:07 No.100224129 Report

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>>100223524
waiting for the deleted scenes I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:38:25 No.100224194 Report

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>>100223389
Dammit, it's another Valkyrie, she isn't Brunnhilde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:48:20 No.100224400 Report

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>>100223507
>>100224194
>Let's have Valkyrie in our movie
>but like, A valkyrie, not THE Valkyrie
This is dumber than a racebend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:50:24 No.100224448 Report

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>>100224400
hey man, /pol/ is wayyyyyyy over there, what are you doing this far away from home?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:51:20 No.100224468 Report

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>>100224400
>let's have the character be ashamed of her past
>Need her to be a link back, but she can't be willing right away.
>feel regret that she survived when THE Valkyrie sacrificed herself for her

Makes a lot of sense to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:52:30 No.100224480 Report

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>>100224400
Nobody gives a shit about Valkyrie so quit pretending you did

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:53:44 No.100224502 Report

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>>100224400
There has always been more than one Valkyrie you mong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:56:17 No.100224546 Report

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>>100224448
Discussing comics and cartoons, presumably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 15:56:42 No.100224552 Report

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>>100224448
>Says racebending Brunnhilde would be less dumb than the convoluted nonsense it took to get a valkyrie on Sakaar
>somehow this is /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 16:00:20 No.100224610 Report

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>>100224552
How was it convoluted? She PTSD'd and drank her way to a shithole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 16:01:11 No.100224622 Report

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>>100224552
>convoluted nonsense
that was hard for you to follow?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 16:01:52 No.100224631 Report

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>>100224622
He’s from /pol/

Just guess his IQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 16:02:06 No.100224633 Report

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>>100223319
Thor did say half of his people are dead. Given Thanos's MO, it's obvious what he meant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:51:25 No.100226431 Report

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>>100223319
They did, but it was deleted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:53:21 No.100226467 Report

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>>100224633
Oh right didn't think of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:53:44 No.100226473 Report

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>>100223052
>WE

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:54:33 No.100226487 Report

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>criticize a character being raceswapped
>this must be /pol/!
I don't understand why first worlders are so fragile that they take away offense in the place of minorities. Do you think that it scores points with us?
I liked Valkyrie's actress, she did a good job, but it's always jarring when you change a character's established and expected physical appearance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:54:43 No.100226491 Report

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>>100226473
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:54:48 No.100226492 Report

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Why did Thanos kill half the Asgardians on the ship when over half of Asgard was killed by Hela, then destroyed completely thanks to Ragnarok

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:56:45 No.100226531 Report

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>>100226487
It's not even her race, She is nothing like Valkyrie in any way. They couldn't even give her a costume or a couple of braids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:56:59 No.100226536 Report

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>>100223347
They could maybe for the starjammers, but the leader of that is Cyclops'dad so that could be tricky

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:58:37 No.100226561 Report

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>>100226531
I'm honestly still miffed that Thor's IW costume seemed downgraded in quality despite attempting to go back to the usual look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 17:58:45 No.100226562 Report

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>>100226492
Because movie thanos is retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:01:21 No.100226599 Report

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>>100224400
She's obviously Hulk's wife from Planet Hulk merged with Valkyrie since the plot points got merged. I ship her and Hulk since she's been the only person to acknowledge both personalities and get along with both

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:04:28 No.100226653 Report

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>>100226487
except they very carefully showed that she isnt fucking brunnhilde

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:08:06 No.100226720 Report

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>>100226653
Isn’t it just a fan theory that the blonde girl who pushed her out of the way of Helas sword attack was Brunnhilde

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:22:39 No.100226959 Report

Quoted By: >>100227139 >>100238871

>>100226720
wut?
so they girl who looks EXACTLY like Brunnhilde and dies to save her ISNT Brunnhilde?
Just so there can be fake outrage about the girl who looks NOTHING like Brunnhilde somehow being a raceswap?
did I get it right?
wew

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:32:39 No.100227139 Report

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>>100226959
Yeah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:39:39 No.100227255 Report

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>>100223052

Wait, they made Valkyrie black too? Glad I don't watch this shit, I'd get a headache.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:40:47 No.100227274 Report

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>>100227255
>I'd get a headache.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:42:11 No.100227306 Report

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>>100227255
just like reading a thread might give you a headache.
knowing whats going on can be painful

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:47:39 No.100227393 Report

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>>100226487
You’re not a minority

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 18:49:43 No.100227431 Report

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>>100223341
So half of them were killed, and another quarter were dusted? Wow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 19:26:12 No.100227970 Report

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>>100227431
Asgard cant field a baseball team, unless Korg and Miek survived

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 20:31:55 No.100229165 Report

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I hope Korg and Miek survived

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 20:58:12 No.100229611 Report

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>>100224400
MCU is an AU, those have been done since the 60's. Why is this so hard for you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 21:00:48 No.100229641 Report

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>>100226487
Concern trolling is painfully obvious

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 21:04:07 No.100229688 Report

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>>100227393
Claro, amigo, não sou. Afinal, você sendo um gringo poderoso tem o dever de me contar qual minha herança genética.

Do you want a timestamp? Favela selfie? This place is filled with comic fans. A substantial amount are minorities. They don't need to conform to your expectations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 21:05:32 No.100229716 Report

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>>100229641
Fuck it. /co/ is a bunch if closeted racists it seems. Have a good day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 21:08:05 No.100229757 Report

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>>100229716
no closets here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 22:29:14 No.100231072 Report

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More importantly, what happened to the Commodore? She's a sweet lil spaceship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 22:35:57 No.100231201 Report

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>>100229688
>implicando que os goblinos ou os areianegros europeus possuem um mínimo senso de ridículo na internet

Não, anon. Eles são imbecis. Sempre fico abismado quando conseguem ser piores que os inclusos daqui.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 22:37:24 No.100231235 Report

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>>100223052
We can only hope.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 22:45:33 No.100231385 Report

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>>100223389
>>100224400
Were you this angry when Dani Moonstar became a Valkyrie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 22:48:37 No.100231443 Report

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>>100227431
Yeah this is what I don't get. Do places Thanos already HALVED get spared from being dusted? If so why did Drax get Dusted? If not why reduce the Asgardian population which had already been decimated, at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 22:56:50 No.100231589 Report

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>>100231385
He would have to read a comic to know about that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 23:23:50 No.100232042 Report

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>>100231385
I honestly thought they were trying to skirt around the fact they don't have the movie rights to Moonstar like with the twins in AoU. Can't be a coincidence Moonstar is making her film debut next year in a Fox film

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 23:32:55 No.100232193 Report

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>>100223341
And then the ship blew up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 23:47:39 No.100232452 Report

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>>100232042
what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 23:50:13 No.100232497 Report

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>>100223341
Wait they had no home world would that make them immune to the the click

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 23:52:59 No.100232529 Report

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>>100232452
I think he's speculating that they wanted to use Moonstar in Ragnarok, but couldn't because of licensing issues, so they went with an OC instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 May 2018 23:56:37 No.100232595 Report

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>>100232529
weird speculation, but ok.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:20:04 No.100233021 Report

Quoted By: >>100233089 >>100233456 >>100233531 >>100233582 >>100234526

I expect to see a white character play a character based on Norse myth.
>buh, buh, buh they're an alien race.
Yes they are an alien race which is based on Norse mythology and therefore I expect to see that accurately reflected. Because alternatively by that logic it's reasonable then to assume there are more white people in Wakanda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:23:56 No.100233089 Report

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>>100233021
Yeah and Thor should have been a fat fuck and Loki should be ugly, nobody cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:25:17 No.100233108 Report

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>>100231385
Dani Moonstar wasn't suddenly yanked out of nowhere and put in a film for Hollywood racial appeasement quotas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:26:27 No.100233124 Report

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>>100233089
>nobody cares
Clearly you do otherwise you wouldn't have responded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:29:17 No.100233184 Report

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>>100233124
no
just no, you stupid fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:30:10 No.100233205 Report

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>>100226492
The ship was too small to support even half of Asgard, really, Thanos just saved them from infighting and starving once recourses starting running out. The remainder will create new Asgards on new worlds and thrive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:31:14 No.100233238 Report

Quoted By: >>100233283

>>100233124
That’s not how that actually works but if it makes you feel better, and I know it does, you can think that.
Stay mad about comic book space alien Gods being brown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:31:24 No.100233240 Report

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>>100233184
You've just proven conclusively why people such as yourself should always be ignored, your opinion is worthless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:33:26 No.100233283 Report

Quoted By: >>100233320 >>100233384

>>100233238
>That’s not how that actually works but if it makes you feel better,
ACKCHULLY, ACKCHULLY.
Ah yes it is exactly how it works. Race bending is only acceptable when it's on white people otherwise liberal poutrage ensues and Hollywood is too spineless for that kind of drama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:34:17 No.100233299 Report

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>>100233240
feel free to ignore me, you stupid fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:35:08 No.100233320 Report

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>>100233283
Get over it, Heimdall has been brown for years

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:37:20 No.100233360 Report

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>>100233299
As I correctly identified as you've demonstrated you're unable to interact like an adult so yes you're absolutely correct you will be ignored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:38:30 No.100233384 Report

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>>100233283
Holy fuck, you've got a movie where the protagonist is white, his supporting cast is white, and both the villains are white, but one character being made brown is enough to set you off?

Y'know, for people who make fun of liberal 'poutrage', you guys sure are easy to trigger over something so insignificant.

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:38:39 No.100233387 Report

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>>100233320
Oh my sides Heimdall...brown.

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:39:22 No.100233405 Report

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>>100233299
>This is the power of /co/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:39:44 No.100233412 Report

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>>100233387
>that nose
Hmm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:41:01 No.100233436 Report

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>>100233384
>made brown is enough to set you off?
You misunderstand I'm interacting in a calm and relaxed manner. I find it's only liberals who tend to get over emotional through discourse because they lack the mental faculty to debate rationally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:42:19 No.100233448 Report

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>>100233412
The roman nose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:42:42 No.100233456 Report

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>>100233021
cause hogun was white

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:43:08 No.100233464 Report

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>>100233387
The marvel movies Heimdall, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:45:03 No.100233497 Report

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>>100233456
So there are slight creative differences but nonetheless by and large Norse mythology is used as a basis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:46:08 No.100233520 Report

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>>100233497
oh the asian guy is a 'creative difference'
i see

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:46:34 No.100233524 Report

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>>100233464
Come on dopey keep up I'm quite aware of the actor who played Hiemdall in the movies, it's not like I haven't watched them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:47:00 No.100233531 Report

Quoted By: >>100233590

>>100233021
>triggered by 2 brown characters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:47:41 No.100233543 Report

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>>100233448
>roman
suure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:47:53 No.100233548 Report

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>>100233520
Nonetheless, Valkyrie should be true to the comics but wasn't for appeasement purposes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:49:25 No.100233582 Report

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>>100233021
Go play God of War, have a great time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:49:44 No.100233590 Report

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>>100233531
Lol I'm not triggered at all merely expressing my opinion of what I would have liked to have seen in the film. Is it okay to express an opinion if it's divergent of the neolib hive mind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:50:10 No.100233601 Report

Quoted By: >>100233663

>>100233548
the asian guy is ok but you dont like niggers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:51:12 No.100233626 Report

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>>100233590
Getting upset that two minor characters are brown sounds pretty triggered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:51:41 No.100233637 Report

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>>100224448
>>100224631
>muh pol boogeyman

I hate /co/mblr

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:53:07 No.100233663 Report

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>>100233601
>the asian guy is ok but you dont like niggers.
You know in this caricature you've built up around me is it okay for me to express how sexually attracted I am to black girls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:53:15 No.100233665 Report

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>>100229641
>>100229716
>>100229757
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:55:03 No.100233699 Report

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>>100233663
how off topic of you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:57:12 No.100233740 Report

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>>100233663
im not tryin to build a caricature dood, im just not sure of the logic where one d-lister can be made asian but another cannot be made mulatto

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:57:34 No.100233747 Report

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No, she's hanging out with Lady Sif.

>>100231443

That is a very good question. Guessing Lady Death just looked at the total population of the universe and went "meh, fuck it" instead of getting wrapped up in "well Thanos ALREADY killed half that planet" technicalities.

Seems like Thanos, judging by his portrayal and commitment to what he viewed as fairness, should've thought of that. But he did have an axe halfway through his chest at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 00:59:21 No.100233776 Report

Quoted By: >>100233888 >>100233893

>>100233740
Because the Asian person is true to the comics, Valkyrie is not.
#comicspride
inb4 buh, buh, buh it's a different Valkyrie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:04:19 No.100233888 Report

Quoted By: >>100233932

>>100233776
>different Valkyrie.
she isnt brunnhilde and that was obvious, so whatever.
did you really just use a hashtag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:04:37 No.100233893 Report

Quoted By: >>100233968

>>100233776
So then your issue with the change is the characterization and not the race?

Which is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:06:19 No.100233932 Report

Quoted By: >>100234097

>>100233888
>she isnt brunnhilde and that was obvious, so whatever.
There was no good reason for it not to be her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:07:29 No.100233968 Report

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>>100233893
It should have been Brunnhilde and Brunnhilde is white. So, both?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:11:22 No.100234040 Report

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>>100229688
>Spic
>Minority

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:14:14 No.100234097 Report

Quoted By: >>100234158

>>100233932
Besides the fact that Valkyrie has only ever been a title, and it has been established pretty thoroughly that there are multiple Valkyries operating at the same time at several points in Marvel comics?

I mean, do you get upset when Dani Moonster doesn't behave like Brunnhilde?

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:17:23 No.100234158 Report

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>>100234097
White as the driven snow.

Dani 'Moonster' is a well established character who went on to obtain that position, she didn't just spring from nowhere claiming to be Valkyrior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:24:24 No.100234294 Report

Quoted By: >>100234336

>>100234158
>Dani 'Moonster' is a well established character
that they don't have the movie rights for

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:26:13 No.100234336 Report

Quoted By: >>100234631

>>100234294
And? I'm saying I don't want to see Dani in a Thor movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:28:45 No.100234386 Report

Quoted By: >>100234487

>>100234158
And as the prior films have established, there are colored Asgardians in the MCU, what's the issue here?

>she didn't just spring from nowhere claiming to be Valkyrior.

Would you be kicking up this fuss if the Valkyrie wasn't Brunhilde, but was played by a white actress?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:33:54 No.100234483 Report

Quoted By: >>100235309

Pleb here, who's the weak looking and sounding mage? I was surprised when he effortlessly BTFO of everyone. I wouldn't mind him being a villain in a future Strange movie somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:34:04 No.100234487 Report

Quoted By: >>100234565 >>100234577 >>100234681 >>100234737

>>100234386
>there are colored Asgardians in the MCU, what's the issue here?
The issue is I would have liked to see it done closer to the comics. So using that logic it should be reasonable for white people to be in Wakanda because after all this isn't the comics and the MCU could of course conceivably establish that.
>Valkyrie wasn't Brunhilde
No I would have liked to have seen Brunhilde.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:36:22 No.100234526 Report

Quoted By: >>100234578

>>100233021
>Expecting accurate Norse mythology from a capeshit movie where a blonde Thor hangs out with a talking space racoon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:38:31 No.100234565 Report

Quoted By: >>100234592

>>100234487
>so using that logic it should be reasonable for white people to be in Wakanda

This argument is so old now. Move on

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:39:01 No.100234577 Report

Quoted By: >>100234643

>>100234487
there was a white guy in wakanda in the comics and MCU, both went by "White Wolf". People keep bringing up Wakanda, but it's all about them NOT being insular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:39:04 No.100234578 Report

Quoted By: >>100234611 >>100234623 >>100234638

>>100234526
>>Expecting accurate Norse mythology
Quote me: 'No I would have liked to have seen Brunhilde.'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:40:00 No.100234587 Report

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>>100223052
I hope so

>>100223241
Damn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:40:14 No.100234592 Report

Quoted By: >>100234956

>>100234565
>This argument is so old now. Move on
Avoided giving a definite yes / no I see.... Interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:40:50 No.100234611 Report

Quoted By: >>100234669

>>100234578
That’s not what you said before, you switched your argument around

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:41:28 No.100234623 Report

Quoted By: >>100234736

>>100234578

What's your favorite comic story featuring Brunhilde, give me a couple issues so I can understand where you're coming from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:41:51 No.100234631 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234336
that's pretty close to the source material without getting sued

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:42:06 No.100234638 Report

Quoted By: >>100234766

>>100234578
So once again, your issue isn't with the race of the character or the adherence to Norse mythology, it's with the fact that they didn't use your waifu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:42:16 No.100234643 Report

Quoted By: >>100240559

>>100234577
>there was a white guy in wakanda in the comics and MCU, both went by "White Wolf"
No he was just a tourist, sight seeing.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:42:55 No.100234653 Report

Quoted By: >>100238820

but did she have sex with the Hulk and who topped?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:43:28 No.100234669 Report

Quoted By: >>100234769

>>100234611
Au contraire, I've held this opinion from the outset possibly without you realizing it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:43:53 No.100234681 Report

Quoted By: >>100234833

>>100234487
>So using that logic it should be reasonable for white people to be in Wakanda
It’s really not the same argument.
Wakanda is an isolated highly advanced utopia in Africa that has never been colonized, Asgard is a fantasy alien space world that establishes multiple different races to the people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:46:14 No.100234736 Report

Quoted By: >>100234838

>>100234623
>give me a couple issues so I can understand where you're coming from.
What's this got to do with anything? I would have liked to have seen Brunhilde as the Valkyrie as personal preference irrespective of quoting chapter and verse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:46:19 No.100234737 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234487
>So using that logic it should be reasonable for white people to be in Wakanda
Not really, that's comparing apples and oranges. Asgard is a high fantasy/sci-fi world which is fairly open to its neighbors and visitors, and thus can conceivably have members of separate races. Wakanda is a highly insular, isolationist society which has never been conquered or colonized in its hundreds of years of existence, based in Africa, so the population being dominantly, if not wholly black is believable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:47:21 No.100234766 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234638
>So once again, your issue isn't with the race of the character or the adherence to Norse mythology, it's with the fact that they didn't use your waifu?
No I think Brunhilde is closer to the source inspiration for the comic and therefore would have liked to have seen that character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:47:22 No.100234769 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234669
You do know the difference between an opinion and the logic behind your opinion, right anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:47:32 No.100234774 Report

Quoted By: >>100234844 >>100234865

>>100223241
Wait, she fucking ran away?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:49:55 No.100234833 Report

Quoted By: >>100234884 >>100235200

>>100234681
>Wakanda is an isolated highly advanced utopia
Contrast with alien space vikings heh heh heh.

Equally Wakanda wouldn't necessarily have to follow it's comic origin would as clearly we've established MCU Asgard is different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:50:07 No.100234838 Report

Quoted By: >>100234875

>>100234736
Defense of a character for whom you are unwilling to explain your familiarity with. That is very...interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:50:19 No.100234844 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234774
I'd imagine Thor told her to protect them since everyone else worth a damn in a fight stayed behind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:51:42 No.100234865 Report

Quoted By: >>100235194

>>100234774
Who the fuck knows, could say she fucked off, could say Thor had her get who they could to the escape pods to ensure Asgard’s survival, everything went to hell fast so it was likely a panic to get people out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:52:24 No.100234875 Report

Quoted By: >>100234908

>>100234838
>Defense of a character for whom you are unwilling to explain your familiarity with.
I don't think I'm required to in order to express a preference am I? According to whom?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:52:33 No.100234882 Report

Quoted By: >>100234905 >>100236887

>tfw no one ever brings up the black evil DARK elf Algrim
>not even sjws manage to care as much compared to ant man's "racist" hispanic sidekick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:52:44 No.100234884 Report

Quoted By: >>100234910

>>100234833
Alien space Vikings who were never purposely isolated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:53:46 No.100234905 Report

Quoted By: >>100234952

>>100234882
Nobody remembers Dark World

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:53:47 No.100234908 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234875
I'm not saying you have to do anything, anon. It's just...interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:53:50 No.100234910 Report

Quoted By: >>100234942 >>100234958

>>100234884
Lol expect by light years sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:55:29 No.100234942 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234910
have you just stopped trying to prove your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:56:16 No.100234952 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234905
see you guys in 2022

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:56:31 No.100234956 Report

Quoted By: >>100235205

>>100234592
I refuse to engage because that argument is old as shit and irrelevant now that BP came out. Go bitch about something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 01:56:40 No.100234958 Report

Quoted By: >>100235037

>>100234910
It’s almost like there’s this crazy ability to travel through space they have

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:01:11 No.100235037 Report

Quoted By: >>100235062

>>100234958
Yes which nobody else has the ability to access.
Versus accidentally stumbling in to a sovereign state on the Earth's landmass and discovering by accident. Strange how Klaw seemed pretty clued in to where is Wakanda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:02:57 No.100235062 Report

Quoted By: >>100235101

>>100235037
They arrive back to Asgard on a ship in Ragnarok, and I’m pretty sure that’s how the dark elves invaded in Dark World

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:05:46 No.100235101 Report

Quoted By: >>100235141 >>100235203

>>100235062
So are you saying Asgard easier to get to than say walking across a border? Heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:07:27 No.100235141 Report

Quoted By: >>100235228

>>100235101
>So are you saying Asgard easier to get to than say walking across a border?
Did you watch Black Panther?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:09:58 No.100235194 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234865
But she left the fight. That’s just, well. That’s just a fairly shit valkyrie.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:10:11 No.100235200 Report

Quoted By: >>100235292

>>100234833

it's all about them opening up their doors to the outside world. If your point is marvel's locations dip into the diversity territory, then why exclude Wakanda when they did just that? Wakanda of old would never allow what T'Challa did. Where do you think Hogun came from in the comics?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:10:21 No.100235203 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235101
>Heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:10:29 No.100235205 Report

Quoted By: >>100242063

>>100234956
No it's because you're cowardly and won't admit that you think race bending white culture is perfectly acceptable but not for any other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:11:33 No.100235228 Report

Quoted By: >>100235242 >>100235281

>>100235141
>Did you watch Black Panther?
Yes Klaw knew all about Wakanda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:12:27 No.100235242 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235228
Once, years ago, thanks to the King’s brother being a traitor

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:12:27 No.100235243 Report

Quoted By:

>>100224480
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:14:39 No.100235281 Report

Quoted By: >>100235321

>>100235228
It's almost like he was working with a Wakandan who told him all about it.

Did that part of the movie go over your head?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:15:03 No.100235292 Report

Quoted By: >>100235341 >>100235392 >>100235423 >>100235506

>>100235200
>Where do you think Hogun came from in the comics?
This isn't the comics though, that has been the whole point of this tract of the debate. If it's fine for Asgard to be multi racial it's also fine for Wakanda because again this isn't the comics. White people could have already been a part of Wakanda and T'Challa is just about opening up to 'outsiders'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:15:56 No.100235309 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234483
Ebony Maw, his telekinesis was cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:16:32 No.100235321 Report

Quoted By: >>100235369 >>100235389

>>100235281
>Did that part of the movie go over your head?
Ahh no I'm simply making the point that Wakanda isn't as secretive as you falsely claim. Some outsiders are aware of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:17:18 No.100235341 Report

Quoted By: >>100235418

>>100235292
You completely remove the point of Black Panther to make your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:18:20 No.100235369 Report

Quoted By: >>100235437

>>100235321
One outsider, thanks to a Wakandan prince giving him everything he needs to know

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:18:19 No.100235370 Report

Quoted By: >>100235450

>>100223052
>valkyrie
>A FUCKING NIGGER

Jesus

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:19:09 No.100235389 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235321
A single person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:19:29 No.100235392 Report

Quoted By: >>100235484

>>100235292
Wakanda has an established reason to be isolated, and is a major plot point to BP
Being isolated to keep Asgard white was never a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:21:10 No.100235418 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235341
>The point
1) MCU Wakanda isn't the same as the comics.
2) People living inside of Wakanda and people outside of Wakanda
3) But let's not make this a racially divisive issue....oh wait one minute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:21:24 No.100235423 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235292
Yes and in the comics Hogun comes from another land in the Asgaurdian dimension

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:22:16 No.100235437 Report

Quoted By: >>100235474

>>100235369
>One outsider
Who goes on to tell two other outsiders who then go on to tell four each....Suddenly Wakanda isn't so secretive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:22:58 No.100235450 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235370
Technically not her and technically not even black. She's about as black as Gamora

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:23:52 No.100235470 Report

Quoted By:

>>100223052
It doesn't matter, the universe will get rebooted anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:24:00 No.100235474 Report

Quoted By: >>100235513

>>100235437
Which he never did, and people aren’t quick to trust a mad man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:24:43 No.100235484 Report

Quoted By: >>100235501 >>100235520 >>100235567

>>100235392
>Being isolated to keep Asgard white was never a thing.
Ahhh so now we're getting somewhere are you saying part of Wakanda's existence was so as to keep it black? Seems that way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:25:52 No.100235501 Report

Quoted By: >>100235533

>>100235484
Yes a major point of Wakanda was to avoid colonization.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:25:59 No.100235506 Report

Quoted By: >>100235560

>>100235292
T'Challa's adoptive brother was white in the comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:26:29 No.100235513 Report

Quoted By: >>100235535

>>100235474
>Which he never did, and people aren’t quick to trust a mad man.
Seriously? Klaw was the leader of his own crime network lot's of people trusted him enough to work with him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:27:17 No.100235520 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235484
>part of Wakanda's existence was so as to keep it black?
Well not anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:27:36 No.100235533 Report

Quoted By: >>100235556

>>100235501
>Yes a major point of Wakanda was to avoid colonization.
If only Asgard could have learnt this very important lesson...Oh no they're white so we can't possibly suggest that it would be racist!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:27:39 No.100235535 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235513
And yet nothing happened to Wakanda until Erik came along and his knowledge of Wakanda was all his own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:28:40 No.100235556 Report

Quoted By: >>100235583 >>100235602

>>100235533
Your point is completely lost to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:28:55 No.100235560 Report

Quoted By: >>100235730

>>100235506
>T'Challa's adoptive brother was white in the comics.
This tract of the debate relies on the permissiveness that the MCU can be very different to the comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:29:18 No.100235567 Report

Quoted By: >>100235606

>>100235484
>are you saying part of Wakanda's existence was so as to keep it black?
You're not very familiar with Black Panther, are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:30:05 No.100235583 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235556
I'm saying that Valkyrie should have been white.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:30:43 No.100235602 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235556
He's saying that T'Challa deciding at the end of Black Panther that maintaining Wakanda's stringent isolationism is good because it lets whites in, but Asgard being permissive of other races is bad because it let blacks in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:31:06 No.100235606 Report

Quoted By: >>100235658

>>100235567
>You're not very familiar with Black Panther, are you?
Reasonably so yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:31:36 No.100235619 Report

Quoted By:

>>100223241
that seems ooc as possible for her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:32:35 No.100235646 Report

Quoted By:

Nobody cared about Valkrye until she was brown

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:33:07 No.100235658 Report

Quoted By: >>100235695

>>100235606
It's really reading to me like you're only familiar with it through wikipedia pages and maybe what some other anon told you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:35:25 No.100235695 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235658
What gave you that impression, be specific. Do try to remember here the argument is being made for the permissiveness of the MCU and not what is established within the comics. Bear that in mind when you structure your response.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:35:57 No.100235705 Report

Quoted By:

>>100223052
i hope not, bitch is fine as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:37:25 No.100235730 Report

Quoted By: >>100235767

>>100235560
and the stand-in for that character was Bucky , the lead in for it opening up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:39:21 No.100235767 Report

Quoted By: >>100235840 >>100235950

>>100235730
So you're okay about white people living in Wakanda for all this time? Because after all race doesn't matter to characters it's what the actors bring to the part correct?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:43:31 No.100235840 Report

Quoted By: >>100235944

>>100235767
So you agree, it doesn’t matter that Heimdall or Valkrye are brown

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:48:50 No.100235944 Report

Quoted By: >>100236066

>>100235840
>So you agree, it doesn’t matter that Heimdall or Valkrye are brown
No it's a roundabout method of demonstrating the outright hypocrisy and double standards of saying there can't be any white characters playing black characters in the fictional state of MCU Wakanda and yet at the same time claiming that the same can't be true of the fictionalized group of Norse characters the Valkyrie in the comics that were all white.

So in other words choose your poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:49:31 No.100235950 Report

Quoted By: >>100236027

>>100235767
Why do you think I wouldn't be? Neither one bothers me, because the end goal is the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:53:50 No.100236027 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235950
>Why do you think I wouldn't be?
It seems the gist of this thread has been very anti white playing black roles. So difference of opinion then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:55:11 No.100236056 Report

Quoted By: >>100236171

But you’re doing this by creating a false equivalency. The race of the Asgardians was never a point to their characters or setting, so altering them changes essentially nothing about them or the setting. Literally the entire point of Wakanda is that they are completely isolationist and have been for years, and this is a flaw that they in time need to gradually overcome, having Wakandans of literally any other race before T’Challa starts the process of opening up to the outside world would fundamentally contradict that. What you’re suggesting would be fundamentally removing the core crux of the point behind Wakanda solely to pander to a select race of people in order to appease their egos, isn’t that what you’re trying to rail against?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 02:55:36 No.100236066 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235944
So yeah there’s nothing wrong about Heimdall or Valkrye being brown.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:01:40 No.100236171 Report

Quoted By: >>100236315 >>100236363

>>100236056
>The race of the Asgardians was never a point to their characters or setting
According to who? The Asgardians are based on Norse myth, their culture is white.
>Wakanda is that they are completely isolationist and have been for years
As opposed to a race of space vikings who live billions of light years away and can be reached only by the rainbow bridge or going through hyperspace.
There's no 'false equivalency' in the slightest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:09:58 No.100236315 Report

Quoted By: >>100236362

>>100236171
Not that anon, but there are other lands within Asgard, which is where Hogun was from

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:10:52 No.100236328 Report

Quoted By:

More importantly, where is Sif?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:12:41 No.100236362 Report

Quoted By: >>100236394 >>100236736

>>100236315
>Not that anon, but there are other lands within Asgard, which is where Hogun was from
Yep plenty of white characters have visited and lived in Wakanda also. The fantastic four went on holiday there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:12:45 No.100236363 Report

Quoted By: >>100236455

>>100236171
>The Asgardians are based on Norse myth, their culture is white.
It's based on Norse Myth in the same way that the Disney film Hercules is based in Greek myth. Why aren't you complaining that Thor isn't fat and ginger and that Loki is now his brother?

>>100236171
>As opposed to a race of space vikings who live billions of light years away and can be reached only by the rainbow bridge or going through hyperspace.

That have been shown on several occasions to have openly interacted with outside races and species.

Again, false equivalency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:14:20 No.100236394 Report

Quoted By: >>100236422

>>100236362
Isn't Black Panther all about how that starts out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:15:41 No.100236422 Report

Quoted By: >>100236461 >>100236496

>>100236394
Yes but anon really wants to be upset about two asgardians being brown

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:17:19 No.100236455 Report

Quoted By: >>100236512

>>100236363
>It's based on Norse Myth in the same way that the Disney film Hercules is based in Greek myth.
Norse myth =/= Greek myth.
>That have been shown on several occasions to have openly interacted with outside races and species.
Lot's of precedent for Wakanda interacting with the outside world, united nations summit for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:17:47 No.100236461 Report

Quoted By: >>100236561

>>100236422
But that one Asian Asgardian? He's fine. Asians are honorary whites now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:18:00 No.100236467 Report

Quoted By:

>>100223241
Does that mean Miek and Korg possibly survived too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:19:18 No.100236496 Report

Quoted By: >>100236594

>>100236422
>Yes but anon really wants to be upset about two asgardians being brown
Nope I would have preferred to have seen Brunnhilde from the comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:19:56 No.100236512 Report

Quoted By: >>100236637

>>100236455
>Norse myth =/= Greek myth.
Moving the goal-posts anon. The Thor comic series has never been a completely faithful adaptation of the original Norse myths. You're just arbitrarily picking and choosing what you do and do not accept as an 'acceptable' break.

>Lot's of precedent for Wakanda interacting with the outside world, united nations summit for example.
Which is what T'Challa did at the end of the movie, which apparently you haven't seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:21:48 No.100236561 Report

Quoted By:

>>100236461
>But that one Asian Asgardian? He's fine. Asians are honorary whites now.
No he's from a different land of the 'Asgard dimension' that was conquered by Space Genghis Khan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:23:27 No.100236594 Report

Quoted By: >>100236655

>>100236496
How would you of known it was Brunnhilde from the comics if the actor was white, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:26:01 No.100236637 Report

Quoted By: >>100236736

>>100236512
>Moving the goal-posts anon.
I'm not moving any goal posts merely pointing out that there's a significant distinction between Norse myth and Greek!
>Which is what T'Challa did at the end of the movie, which apparently you haven't seen.
Lots of precedent for white people in Wakanda in the comics also.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:27:04 No.100236655 Report

Quoted By: >>100236703 >>100236710

>>100236594
>How would you of known it was Brunnhilde from the comics if the actor was white, anon?
Presumably she would be introduced as such, no?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:29:29 No.100236703 Report

Quoted By: >>100236782

>>100236655
So you would've been satisfied if the character in Ragnarok was exactly the same, just white and called herself Brunnhilde, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:29:52 No.100236710 Report

Quoted By:

>>100236655
Yet she’s never introduced as Brunnhilde in the movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:31:04 No.100236736 Report

Quoted By: >>100236832

>>100236637
>I'm not moving any goal posts merely pointing out that there's a significant distinction between Norse myth and Greek!
Anon, that is an irrelevant point and you know it. I repeat: he Thor comic series has never been a faithful adaptation of the original Norse myths. You're just arbitrarily picking and choosing what you do and do not accept as an 'acceptable' break.

>Lots of precedent for white people in Wakanda in the comics also.

And it happens in the comics too, see >>100236362

Are you gonna keep wasting everyone's time pretending you still have an argument here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:34:09 No.100236782 Report

Quoted By: >>100236802

>>100236703
>was exactly the same
In what way do you mean exactly the same? I would have liked to have seen a white person play the part of the Valkyrie Brunnhilde of the Valkyrior in this film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:35:44 No.100236802 Report

Quoted By: >>100236859

>>100236782
What is the Valkyrie Brunnhilde like, anon? Describe her character to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:37:27 No.100236832 Report

Quoted By: >>100236947 >>100236998

>>100236736
>Thor comic series has never been a faithful adaptation of the original Norse myths.

Yet has drawn on for the majority yes why yes in fact Norse myth.

>Are you gonna keep wasting everyone's time pretending you still have an argument here?

I have been consistent throughout this discussion and maintained the same argument from the beginning, whereas you are now scrabbling about in irrelevancy struggling poorly to find a point to contend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:39:22 No.100236859 Report

Quoted By: >>100236947 >>100237020

>>100236802
>What is the Valkyrie Brunnhilde like, anon? Describe her character to me.
Don't go there you could make that argument about consistency for any character and particularly comic book characters where consistency is dependent on who happens to be writing the character at the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:41:09 No.100236887 Report

Quoted By: >>100236909

>>100234882
seriously though I thought the dark elves didn't literally come in black in the comics but I haven't seen anyone make a big deal out it, not even the left

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:42:25 No.100236909 Report

Quoted By:

>>100236887
Originally they didn't but somewhere down the line Marvel went with the D&D aesthetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:44:27 No.100236947 Report

Quoted By: >>100237013

>>100236832
>>100236859
>consistency
I don't see the implication of inconsistency in either of anon's posts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:46:08 No.100236977 Report

Quoted By:

>>100231385
Brunhilde didn't die for that to happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:47:09 No.100236998 Report

Quoted By: >>100237065

>>100236832
>Yet has drawn on for the majority yes why yes in fact Norse myth.
It took the framework of Norse myth and did its own thing with it, and has been doing its own thing for forty-plus years now. It has about the same level of faithfulness to its source material as Xena: Warrior Princess.

>I have been consistent throughout this discussion and maintained the same argument from the beginning

Anon, I didn't know you were a comedian on top of being an undiagnosed schizophrenic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:48:00 No.100237013 Report

Quoted By: >>100237147

>>100236947
>I don't see the implication of inconsistency in either of anon's posts
Ah captain obvious, with the implication being that it's difficult to describe accurately any character for the noted reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:48:30 No.100237020 Report

Quoted By: >>100237129 >>100237276

>>100236859
Don't worry anon, she's actually had a fairly consistent characterization since her inception, so you shouldn't have much trouble describing her for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:51:19 No.100237065 Report

Quoted By: >>100237137 >>100237143 >>100237166

>>100236998
>It took the framework of Norse myth and did its own thing with it
Minus the discernment of black characters taking on the role of those which are mythological traditionally white. Yeah it never did that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:55:01 No.100237129 Report

Quoted By: >>100237286

>>100237020
>she's actually had a fairly consistent characterization since her inception
So it would appear you are confident enough to distinguish the character without my assistance, correct? Don't hide behind innuendo say what is at the foremost in your mind and I will respond to your statements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:55:40 No.100237137 Report

Quoted By: >>100237247

>>100237065
Get the fuck over it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:56:06 No.100237143 Report

Quoted By: >>100237181

>>100237065
So you're saying it's okay for them to fundamentally change their characters, personalities, appearances relationships, abilities, acts, backstories, interactions with humanity, and so on, essentially making them new characters, but someone else making a character brown is taking things too far because muh Norse Myth?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:56:23 No.100237147 Report

Quoted By: >>100237223

>>100237013
anons can do it for different eras of batman or X-men comics depending on the writer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:57:42 No.100237166 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237065
So if they make a Santa movie and his helpers are darkies, would that be an issue as well because I've seen that complaint around here a few times.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:57:59 No.100237169 Report

Quoted By:

>>100223507
>>100224194
>It's not Mary Jane, it's MJ! XD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:58:48 No.100237181 Report

Quoted By: >>100237237 >>100237622

>>100237143
>So you're saying it's okay for them to fundamentally change their characters, personalities, appearances relationships, abilities, acts, backstories, interactions with humanity, and so on
As anon suggested it seems Brunnhilde has received fairly consistent character development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:59:11 No.100237188 Report

Quoted By: >>100237210 >>100237228

>>100224468
>Whites exist only to preserve the lives of niggers

Damn, that's a fucked up message

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 03:59:21 No.100237189 Report

Quoted By:

>>100223241
>They could have at least show an escape pod,
I'm pretty sure there are several pods splitting away in the opening ship scene with Thanos ship and the refugee vessel, just before they show the interior carnage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:00:18 No.100237210 Report

Quoted By: >>100237700

>>100237188
But Heimdall gave his life to save Banner, and Banner is about as white as you get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:00:52 No.100237223 Report

Quoted By: >>100237243

>>100237147
>anons can do it for different eras of batman or X-men comics depending on the writer.
This is a discussion about unmitigated race swapping I don't know what you're talking about.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:01:14 No.100237228 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237188
yep, tons of hidden themes in mcu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:01:50 No.100237237 Report

Quoted By: >>100237276

>>100237181
Read the post very carefully, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:02:17 No.100237243 Report

Quoted By: >>100237326

>>100237223
I'm responding the idea that you can't summarize a character that's been written by different people

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:02:37 No.100237247 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237137
>Get the fuck over it
Wakanda homeland of the Aryan race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:04:41 No.100237276 Report

Quoted By: >>100237309

>>100237237
>100237020
Ahhh I did, you misspoke.
>>100237020

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:05:46 No.100237286 Report

Quoted By: >>100237353

>>100237129
Okay, you wouldn't of given a shit if they gave you a faithful adaptation of Brunhilde or not, they could've served up a character that was completely, radically different to Brunhilde to the comics and you don't know anything about the comic version and would have eaten it up because hey, at least the character is white. This isn't about faithfulness to the comics or the Norse myths, you're literally just upset that they had the gall to have a brown character in a movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:06:48 No.100237309 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237276
Are you smelling burnt toast, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:08:14 No.100237326 Report

Quoted By: >>100237347 >>100237397 >>100237459 >>100237640

>>100237243
But what you can do is ensure she's culturally represented showing due respect for the culture drawn as basis just like in Black Panther...Noting that Norse religion is a practicing religion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:09:06 No.100237332 Report

Quoted By:

>>100227431
>>100231443
I audibly laughed in the theater when i realized that planets where thanos already eliminated half would end up getting quartered too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:09:59 No.100237347 Report

Quoted By: >>100237370

>>100237326
What did they change about her race?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:10:29 No.100237353 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237286
>Okay, you wouldn't of given a shit...

>Proceeds to make lots of assumptions to support a precarious argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:11:30 No.100237370 Report

Quoted By: >>100237395

>>100237347
Is race a 'social construct' to you anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:12:35 No.100237395 Report

Quoted By: >>100237471 >>100237642

>>100237370
They didn't literally raceswap the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:12:39 No.100237397 Report

Quoted By: >>100237439

>>100237326
>Noting that Norse religion is a practicing religion
Okay, you're just trolling at this point.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:13:41 No.100237417 Report

Quoted By: >>100237443 >>100237871 >>100238173

Do you guys like Valkyries depicted with Angel wings or riding Pegasuses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:14:49 No.100237439 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237397
Nope that happens to be true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:15:02 No.100237443 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237417
Riding Pegasuses. Winged Valkyries are shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:16:18 No.100237459 Report

Quoted By: >>100237499 >>100237529

>>100237326
The white one died a hero and the brown one turned into a wino

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:16:53 No.100237471 Report

Quoted By: >>100237529

>>100237395
>They didn't literally raceswap the character.
Hence the question is race a social construct to you, I wish to determine to what degree of asshattery you're operating on.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:16:57 No.100237474 Report

Quoted By: >>100237896

When did /pol/ infect this site so much that any thread about a brown person gets derailed to hell? The casual racism was tolerable and funny before but now it's unbearable. She wasn't even that bad in the movie and din't even show up in this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:18:29 No.100237499 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237459
>The white one died a hero
See that there? That's exactly my point, I wanted the film to feature this character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:20:28 No.100237529 Report

Quoted By: >>100237642 >>100237811

>>100237471
Fucking hell anon>>100237459
stop trying push this liberal "le race is a social construct" shit on me. I never implied that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:26:18 No.100237622 Report

Quoted By: >>100237683

>>100237181
doesn't exactly answer the question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:27:48 No.100237640 Report

Quoted By: >>100237706

>>100237326
Yes I’m sure they’re very offended by this sci-fi comedy comic book movie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:27:51 No.100237642 Report

Quoted By: >>100237783

>>100237529
This is you, correct?
>>100237395
She's a Valkyrie hence white unless you can think of other examples of black Valkyries either in Norse myth or the Marvel Asgard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:30:16 No.100237683 Report

Quoted By: >>100237713

>>100237622
But it does because the character wasn't fundamentally changed at any point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:31:37 No.100237700 Report

Quoted By: >>100240585

>>100237210
But he's green, like Shrek.
Is Shrek as white as you get now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:31:46 No.100237706 Report

Quoted By: >>100237730

>>100237640
>Yes I’m sure they’re very offended by this sci-fi
Tut, tut speaking for others there anon, especially concerning what is / isn't offensive to another's religion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:32:06 No.100237713 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237683
I think anon meant changes to the myth

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:33:05 No.100237730 Report

Quoted By: >>100237763

>>100237706
Boo fucking hoo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:34:54 No.100237763 Report

Quoted By: >>100237866

>>100237730
Ahh culturally insensitive remarks toward white people? Nah I'm sure you're not, just checking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:35:51 No.100237778 Report

Quoted By: >>100237805

>>100223241
That sounds like cowardice to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:36:30 No.100237783 Report

Quoted By: >>100237845 >>100238091

>>100237642
I meant that specific character, but she's more than likely a composite character of Moonstar and others as anon stated before. I don't suppose other lands in comic asgard with different people makes a difference.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:37:47 No.100237805 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237778
Hopefully she got killed in the snap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:38:07 No.100237811 Report

Quoted By: >>100237869 >>100238713

>>100237529
Race is a social construct though, the modern idea of race was pulled out of some guy's ass a few hundred years ago in order to create justification for the idea that Europeans (white people) are superior to others groups (namely Africans and Native Americans).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:40:09 No.100237845 Report

Quoted By: >>100238007 >>100238109

>>100237783
>she's more than likely a composite character of Moonstar and others
Nope no evidence of this, she's an appeasement character. Got to make that diversity quota because there's far too many white in this Norse meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:41:34 No.100237866 Report

Quoted By: >>100237893

>>100237763
Yes oh woe onto those who believe Norse mythology I’m being such a bully

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:41:54 No.100237869 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237811
>Race is a social construct
Which is based upon genetic predisposition, so yes in that sense race is not a social construct.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:41:54 No.100237871 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237417
>Valkyries depicted with Angel wings

jew shit. original shieldmaiden were just females on horses. having horse in sweden was expensive as fuck. its like having maybach in Oakland right now. the bitches of Walhala were described as "fucking expensive bitch taking you to the biggest party" and not as some fucking angel, which fights for avenging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:43:01 No.100237893 Report

Quoted By: >>100237931

>>100237866
Bet you wouldn't say that to Wakanda believers. Heh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:43:03 No.100237896 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237474
Zimmerman case

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:44:51 No.100237931 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237893
>Wakanda believers
>heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:50:02 No.100238007 Report

Quoted By: >>100238061

>>100237845
She can be a diversity push while also being a composite of another diversity character. I don't understand how you think those are conflicting ideas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:53:53 No.100238061 Report

Quoted By: >>100238225

>>100238007
>a composite of another diversity character.
???
Brunnhilde isn't a diversity character, y'know that character that should have been Valkyrie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:55:41 No.100238089 Report

Quoted By:

I had a good laugh at this thread, watching as one retarded anon did a whole mental olympic gymnastics routine to justify his whining about one imaginary character being brown. This was enjoyable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:55:59 No.100238091 Report

Quoted By: >>100238109 >>100238128 >>100238304

>>100237783
you don't actually read comics, black Asgardians is a thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:57:01 No.100238109 Report

Quoted By: >>100238261

>>100237845
>>100238091
fugg

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:57:54 No.100238125 Report

Quoted By:

what exactly do valkyries do in the MCU?

i know theyre portrayed as some kind of guardsmen, but do they also not have the duties of the mythical valkyries?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:58:03 No.100238128 Report

Quoted By: >>100238344

>>100238091
Sigurd the comic character was created after black Heimdall appeared in the movies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 04:59:28 No.100238155 Report

Quoted By:

>>100233387
Heimdallr: the whitest of the gods. He has a horn and a pretty horse and he uses his above average eyesight to defend Asgard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:01:11 No.100238173 Report

Quoted By: >>100238204

>>100237417
Wings are cooler than horses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:03:00 No.100238204 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238173
that's why the wings go on the horses

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:03:25 No.100238211 Report

Quoted By: >>100238246 >>100238256 >>100238258 >>100238386

>>100223052
Is Sif dead?

Really, you think she'd be instrumental in defeating Hela or at least get a shout-out somewhere.

Did she die between the movies?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:04:07 No.100238225 Report

Quoted By: >>100238292

>>100238061
Moonstar. Long dark hair, sometimes had face paint, nonwhite Valkyrie, but no movie rights. Fox has them. Likely the same situation with the Maximoff twins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:05:24 No.100238246 Report

Quoted By: >>100238386

>>100238211
Nah...well idk maybe, her actress couldnt make it for Ragnarok so she just wasnt there and there was no excuse given as to why

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:06:07 No.100238256 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238211
>Is Sif dead?

Worse, she appeared on Agents of SHIELD

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:06:09 No.100238258 Report

Quoted By: >>100240381 >>100240460

>>100238211
She fell in to the same hole that Jane, Betty Ross, and all the other superfluous human characters fell in to when Marvel realized that people don't give a shit about normal people in these movies and just wanna see superheroes punching bad guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:06:20 No.100238261 Report

Quoted By: >>100238334 >>100238344

>>100238109
>fugg
Was that directed at me? STOP. I already know this, way back up thread I noted other cultures belonging to the 'Asgardian dimension'. My point being the Valkyrie noting specifically the Valkyrie have always been depicted as white. Stop trying to underhandedly misrepresent my statements to give the false perception your argument is valid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:08:21 No.100238292 Report

Quoted By: >>100238326

>>100238225
>Moonstar. Long dark hair, sometimes had face paint, nonwhite Valkyrie
Yep totally intended to be her anon. lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:09:04 No.100238304 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238091
I meant to imply there already were different types of people living in different parts of asgard in the comics and wondered if that made a difference. Don't know if they were black or not, but neither were the dark elves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:10:46 No.100238326 Report

Quoted By: >>100238359

>>100238292
Why are you being obtuse? I didn't imply it was literally her, just likely a copyright free composite oc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:10:59 No.100238334 Report

Quoted By: >>100238420

>>100238261
>My point being the Valkyrie noting specifically the Valkyrie have always been depicted as white.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:11:23 No.100238344 Report

Quoted By: >>100238350

>>100238128
and non white Valkyries have been a thing prior to the movies
>>100238261
>Valkyrie noting specifically the Valkyrie
no specifically Brunnhilde, there are other Valkyries and holders of the title

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:11:52 No.100238350 Report

Quoted By: >>100238399 >>100238638

>>100238344
>and non white Valkyries have been a thing prior to the movies
Really? Where?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:12:27 No.100238359 Report

Quoted By: >>100238485

>>100238326
Character bears no resemblance to Dani Moonstar neither in appearance or demeanor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:13:54 No.100238386 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238211
>>100238246
I think the in universe reason was Sif was banished for some reason by Loki in between films. So she's out there in a space bar somewhere.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:14:24 No.100238399 Report

Quoted By: >>100238407

>>100238350
how retarded are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:15:02 No.100238407 Report

Quoted By: >>100238452

>>100238399
Oh I didn't realize Dani was an Asgardian

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:15:44 No.100238420 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238334
Ahhh anon read the thread why don't you before posting? I'm aware of Dani I've no issue with Dani because her story was developed throughout. What I'm against is magically black appearing Valkyrie appearing out of nowhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:17:35 No.100238452 Report

Quoted By: >>100238479 >>100238495

>>100238407
so what your saying is Dani doesn't count as a valkyrie because she isn't a Asgardian?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:19:25 No.100238479 Report

Quoted By: >>100238506 >>100238522 >>100238579

>>100238452
Well no, I was simply responding to someone claiming that black Asgardians are a common thing in the comics, when there is literally only one, and he was created only six years ago
Bringing up Moonstar as some kind of gotcha is just derailing the original argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:19:39 No.100238485 Report

Quoted By: >>100238512

>>100238359
I listed visual nods, also took up the mantel. It seems likely that was an inspiration. Doesn't seem too crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:20:30 No.100238495 Report

Quoted By: >>100238579

>>100238452
Not him but I guess he has a point because Dani is really just a phoney Valkyrie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:21:11 No.100238506 Report

Quoted By: >>100238516

>>100238479
Are the dark elves an issue too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:21:45 No.100238512 Report

Quoted By: >>100238567

>>100238485
What because she wears face paint and in no other way resembles Dani? Your connection is tenuous anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:21:50 No.100238516 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238506
Why would they be? They're not Asgardians. That's a completely irrelevant question

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:22:31 No.100238522 Report

Quoted By: >>100238548 >>100238564

>>100238479
weren't there already non-white asgardians before 2011?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:24:12 No.100238548 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238522
Nope. Unless you count Hogunn, but he's not really Asgardian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:25:33 No.100238564 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238522
probably

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:25:38 No.100238567 Report

Quoted By: >>100238604

>>100238512
face paint, non white, long dark hair and took up the mantel. She isn't literally her, but I see echoes of a character they don't have the rights too. Plus new Mutants was supposed to come out the following year, which she is in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:26:26 No.100238579 Report

Quoted By: >>100238592 >>100238630

>>100238495
> Dani is really just a phoney Valkyrie.
fuck you she has Hela's approval
>>100238479
anon the thing is Asgardians have met beings who look vastly different from them and have accepted them as their own this is nothing new if you wanted to argue that there are no nonwhite genetic Asgardians go ahead. But arguing that a nonwhite is a Valkyrie is unfaithful to the source material is wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:27:50 No.100238592 Report

Quoted By: >>100238638 >>100238660

>>100238579
>But arguing that a nonwhite is a Valkyrie is unfaithful to the source material is wrong.
I've literally never made that argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:28:28 No.100238604 Report

Quoted By: >>100238797

>>100238567
>face paint, non white, long dark hair
Literally where the similarities end. I don't think Dani is that much of a face painting aficionado either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:29:33 No.100238617 Report

Quoted By: >>100238674

NOBODY GAVE A SHT ABOUT VALKYRIE UNTIL SHE WAS BROWN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:30:19 No.100238630 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238579
>fuck you she has Hela's approval
Oh alright then if story writers wants to give characters a badge of approval for their decisions to write them in a manner of their choosing, y'know far from me to gainsay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:30:52 No.100238638 Report

Quoted By: >>100238864

>>100238592
what did you mean by this then?
>>100238350

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:32:29 No.100238660 Report

Quoted By: >>100238728

>>100238592
>My point being the Valkyrie noting specifically the Valkyrie have always been depicted as white
>She's a Valkyrie hence white

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:33:20 No.100238674 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238617
wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:36:36 No.100238713 Report

Quoted By:

>>100237811
>race
>social construct

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:37:41 No.100238728 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238660
This was me not him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:42:16 No.100238792 Report

Quoted By: >>100238860

>>100224400
They should've made her a ravager or a space pirate if she was just gonna be 'someone' in a group. Would've explained her owning a spaceship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:42:38 No.100238797 Report

Quoted By: >>100238860

>>100238604
and took up the mantel and has a movie that was coming out the following year, just like the Maximoff twins and the fox movies. with those traits combined, I don't how you don't see where I'm coming from, even other anons see some similarities between the two. Unless you're denying because you I'm trying to justify it, which I'm not. You're just saying "no" to everything, why don't you think it's likely she wasn't a partial inspiration for the oc?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:44:53 No.100238820 Report

Quoted By:

>>100234653
yes, and yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:47:11 No.100238856 Report

Quoted By: >>100238902 >>100242128

>>100224448
are you a black woman who needs a strong character to identify with?

cause as a white guy I don't identify with her
a white woman doesn't identify with her race
a black guy wouldn't identify with her gender
I think both me and a black guy would agree a sexy blonde white woman would be better sexually
if she's supposed to be an extreme minority why not make her crippled too? mentally ill?
that's social justice
so who is supporting this shit?

>hurr gb2pol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:47:50 No.100238860 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238797
>took up the mantel
This character didn't take up the mantle, we are lead to believe she was born Aesir and was trained as part of the culture, Thor even states 'you're Asgardian' this is what I take issue with.

This anon has the right idea.
>>100238792
should've made her a ravager or a space pirate if she was just gonna be 'someone' in a group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:48:02 No.100238864 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238638
At that point, I was still under the impression we were talking about Asgardian Valkyries. Which I figured would have been obvious, but I guess not

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:48:45 No.100238871 Report

Quoted By:

>>100226959
When Brunhilde died she sucked the whiteness out of her. That's why you need to be careful around blacks. They're basically vampires that suck the milky white out of you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 05:52:31 No.100238902 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238856
>I think both me and a black guy would agree a sexy blonde white woman would be better sexually

when you put it that way...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 08:31:05 No.100240263 Report

Quoted By: >>100240301

>>100223241
how convenient

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 08:38:35 No.100240301 Report

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>>100240263
To be fair, being a survivor at the expense of others life seems to be in-character for her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 08:52:25 No.100240381 Report

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>>100238258
I'm astonished at every one of Pepper Pott's appearances after IM3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 08:56:52 No.100240403 Report

Quoted By: >>100240445 >>100240645

It's pretty apparent from the dialogue and scenery that SOME kind of battle happened, prolonged by the sheer amount of heavy hitters on the ship, as opposed to Thanos beaming down his mates and fucking shit up against no resistance.

Loki's bargaining could've given the Hulk enough time to evacuate/give separate orders to whomever escaped with the Asguardians (hopefully both Meek and Korg).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:04:18 No.100240445 Report

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>>100240403
Korg is shattered, from what I've heard. I think Meek and the Valkyrie escaped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:06:35 No.100240460 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238258
>Sif
>human
Nigger, what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:07:59 No.100240474 Report

Quoted By:

>>100233124
>>100233184
you both look like dickheads

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:13:47 No.100240517 Report

Quoted By: >>100240670

>>100223241
So she left her people and king behind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:18:53 No.100240557 Report

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>The first dying was a nigger
Well, at least Marvel kept a nice trope

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:19:16 No.100240559 Report

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>>100234643
...The comics version is literally T'challa's adopted brother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:23:09 No.100240585 Report

Quoted By: >>100240626

>>100237700
No HULK is green. Banner is white.
If you think they're the same guy then you don't belong on this board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:28:16 No.100240626 Report

Quoted By: >>100240640

>>100240585
I thought Hulk was gray.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:31:10 No.100240640 Report

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>>100240626
That's not Hulk. That's Joe Fixit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:32:04 No.100240645 Report

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>>100240403
The part of the ship we see action go down on and eventually explode was only the front half of the actual ship. Grandmaster's ship that was docked with it is gone too. Plenty of out for the half of the population spared and Valkyrie, Korg etc to get away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 09:36:19 No.100240670 Report

Quoted By: >>100241769

>>100240517
Somebody has to go with the surviving refugees. Her and Korg would be the only warriors with the rest of the population.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 12:20:35 No.100241769 Report

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>>100240670
doesnt matter man, they are going to shit on the character without knowing about it.
Maybe in the deleted scene Hulk picks her and Korg up and throws them into the escape pod. who knows? not knowing has never stopped outrage

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 12:50:31 No.100242063 Report

Quoted By:

>>100235205
>Capeshit
>White culture

The absolute state of white people

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 May 2018 12:56:21 No.100242128 Report

Quoted By:

>>100238856
>I think both me and a black guy would agree
dont speak for me, faggot

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