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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 10:30:22 2021 No.124695980 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>124702448 >>124703579 >>124704469 >>124705021 >>124705161

Watch them make Pietro, Wanda’s murderer because Her character has done nothing but fuck everything up for everyone else?

Keep that STD laced bike away from Pietro, he’s suffered enough

Do you all prefer Quicksilver when he's running with the Avengers, Inhumans or X-teams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:35:58 No.124699802 Report

Quoted By: >>124700079

It’s really been a bummer that Quicksilver hasn’t been able to be involved with this Krakoa arc. He’d have been great on the council as a liaison to both the inhumans and the avengers. His power even works well as a liaison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:44:03 No.124699952 Report

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>>124698646
> Parents die.
> Country is being destroyed by war. People do desperate things in war.
> There are no good options.
> She subconsciously knows she has chaos magic and needs to unlock it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:48:44 No.124700038 Report

Quoted By: >>124700132

>>124696230
I think it’s to re-mutant them both honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:49:15 No.124700047 Report

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>>124698859
Magda is a Nothingburger no one cares about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:51:22 No.124700079 Report

Quoted By: >>124700145

>>124699802
Having regular contact with other super heroes goes completely against the ideas that X-book peddle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:54:32 No.124700132 Report

Quoted By: >>124700177

>>124700038
She is Not in the X-Men.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:55:14 No.124700145 Report

Quoted By: >>124701062

>>124700079
The recent idea has been “ethnostate good”. It would have been nice to have somebody in there who has spent more time working with humans and inhumans that mutants felling them they’re a bunch of short sighted jackasses. Pietro doesn’t get to be a good guy though, so he would have probably betrayed the inhumans or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:56:42 No.124700177 Report

Quoted By: >>124700229

>>124700132
Who said she was?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:59:24 No.124700229 Report

Quoted By: >>124700315

>>124700177
X-Men Movies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 15:59:28 No.124700232 Report

Quoted By: >>124702876

>>124698949
Do you think the Darkhold, which is also powered by chaos magic, just randomly showed up? Seriously? It engineered events to reach Wanda.

Considering that she looked confused after blasting Monica (yet also putting a shield around her) looking down at her hands.

All the spells that made up the hex were likely from the Darkhold, as was the probability hex that stopped the Stark bomb.

Oh look, we are now talking about MCU Wanda in this thread because comics Wanda is not doing anything interesting other than being a corpse/plot device in the comics.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 16:00:34 No.124700256 Report

Quoted By: >>124702966 >>124705029

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 16:03:28 No.124700315 Report

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>>124700229
She was never even mentioned in those

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 16:45:22 No.124701062 Report

Quoted By: >>124702561

>>124700145
They've already got Beast, but the X-line has spent the past decade turning Beast into even more retarded Dark Beast. Honestly, I'm not sure where the idea that the X-line is a better place for Quicksilver comes from, it's really just Peter David.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 17:54:12 No.124702448 Report

Quoted By: >>124704232

>>124695980
Wanda hasn't been worth reading about since the classic Wanda and Vision stories.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 17:58:59 No.124702561 Report

Quoted By: >>124702927 >>124702973

>>124701062
Wanda has the entire magic side of the marvel universe to work with, so her being a mutant is just extra. Meanwhile Pietro is just a fast guy. Making him a mutant makes him relevant to at least a part of the universe. He’d even be more important considering he has a daughter with an important inhuman. There’s storytelling potential there that he could uniquely fill, but only as a mutant.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:13:30 No.124702876 Report

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>>124700232
>Oh look, we are now talking about MCU Wanda in this thread
Technically most of it's just Damifag copypasting posts from Reddit and Tumblr written by other people reeeing about MCU Wanda, particularly the repeated "nazi" and "rapist" accusations. Abandon thread. Do not engage.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:15:49 No.124702927 Report

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>>124702561
Unless she gets depowered to hex probabilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:17:38 No.124702966 Report

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>>124700256
Captain America for Canada?
Not Wolverine or Deadpool?
Lies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:18:02 No.124702973 Report

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>>124702561
>Inhumans
>important
That aside, his issue is that he's a c-lister attached to more popular characters. If Mags and his kids were the Batfamily, he'd be the Batgirl. The problem with saying that being a mutant makes him relevant to part of the universe is that he's irrelevant within the X-line. He's defined entirely by his relationship with a significantly more popular character, Lorna has had the "dutiful child" role locked down for 20 years, Exodus has the true believer role, everyone shares being opposed to Magneto when the writers have him as a villain, the whole Son of M thing doesn't work in context of the setting - what good is being prince when the king will never die, and in terms of powerset he's just a shittier version of Northstar. Whether or not he's a mutant is irrelevant to his underlying issue of very few people bothering to develop his own identity outside other characters and teams. That's why I've said repeatedly that he needs a solo completely detached from the X-Men, Avengers, Inhumans, Magneto, Wanda, and Crystal to give him his own shit. You can bring that stuff in later, but he needs a separate space to define himself initially.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:21:35 No.124703059 Report

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>>124698950
Shes an X-Men and its a conflict of interest.
She wasnt Magneto's daughter for 50+ years.
Her best role was coleading X-Factor with Havok.
And she wasnt magnetos daughter then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:33:59 No.124703362 Report

Quoted By: >>124703492

>>124697462
>Wanda being a mutant & Magnetos daughter is her best outcome
Wanda has always been at her best in the Avengers books, or in those minis with Vision. What's best for Pietro is debatable, but there's no coherent argument for how being "Magneto's mutant daughter" ever benefitted her at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:40:37 No.124703492 Report

Quoted By: >>124703585

>>124703362
Nah the Disney influenced retcon of the comics to distance her further from X-Men wasnt based at all.
During that entire like two decades all X-Comics were shit, intentionally by Disney/ Marvel in hopes of one day reaquiring the rights.
Post merger, they canceled every X book, restarted with Hickman's run.
Time to clean slate all the corporate motivated retcons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:44:00 No.124703579 Report

Quoted By: >>124704387 >>124704877

>>124695980
Even Marvel/ Disney themselves consider Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver mutants/ X-Men first.
It's why those names were legally tied to Fox because they owned the rights to the X-Men catalog that was sold to them vy Marvel.
Hence why Wanda & pietro were never called Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in the MCU.
The twins belong to X-fans, and always have, you mcu chuds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:44:13 No.124703585 Report

Quoted By: >>124703861

>>124703492
I'd say it's impressive to meet an X-stan who knows nothing about X-Men comics, but we are on /co/.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 18:56:36 No.124703861 Report

Quoted By: >>124704020 >>124704428

>>124703585
Your precious wanda will be a mutant by the end of magneto's trial.
Magneto will turn Vision into a pile of atoms for being a sentinel.
You Avenger/ MCU chuds are gonna need a lot of rum & cope with extra lime.
•:[X]:•

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:00:39 No.124703954 Report

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I would not like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:03:47 No.124704020 Report

Quoted By: >>124704141 >>124704487 >>124704824

>>124703861
My honest guess is that the twins go back to being Magneto’s children and becoming mutants. This causes a schism in Krakoa because they hate Scarlet Witch. As they fight amongst each other, patchwork man makes his move. Krakoa crumbles

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:08:56 No.124704141 Report

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>>124704020
The real issue isn't whether or not Wanda and Pietro are mutants, it's people not liking how the X-office handles them. Most people thought the "not really mutants" retcon was stupid, the contention is a combination of disliking Mags being their dad and how they've been handled over the years.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:09:57 No.124704165 Report

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>>124696197
I'm not buying any book written by a Muslim

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:12:13 No.124704232 Report

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>>124702448
Sadly, I must admit this is mostly true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:18:36 No.124704387 Report

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>>124703579
In the MCU she is named Scarlet Witch by the Darkhold ("because a namer has mastery of the named").

The "Scarlet" referring to dark magic, Chaos Magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:20:31 No.124704428 Report

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>>124703861
How the fuck is Vision a Sentinel?

Is this Marvel yet again rubbishing the notion of their relationship?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:22:30 No.124704469 Report

Quoted By:

>>124695980
X-Teams, they deserve his douchebaggery

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:22:58 No.124704487 Report

Quoted By: >>124704679

>>124704020
Only Magneto and Kurt would vote to resurrect Wanda.

Everyone on the Quiet Council would vote against it. No way it gets through a QC vote.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:27:39 No.124704608 Report

Quoted By: >>124705692 >>124706017

> Storm becomes High Priestess. Big win for Oshtur as well.
> Magik gets to be Sorceress Supreme unopposed.
> Dormammu gets to piss in Billy's face by telling him.

Its a big win for alot of people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:31:13 No.124704679 Report

Quoted By: >>124704787

>>124704487
I could see Xavier being neutral and convinced either way on whether or not to ressurect her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:36:17 No.124704787 Report

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>>124704679
Realistically Xavier would vote to resurrect her because it'd allow him to freely edit her mind to make her loyal to Krakoa instead of humanity. Wanda is powerful enough to end Krakoa instantly, and doesn't buy into mutant ideology so she has to either be eliminated or turned, and turning her nets him another weapon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:37:54 No.124704824 Report

Quoted By: >>124704895

>>124704020
>My honest guess is that the twins go back to being Magneto’s children and becoming mutants. This causes a schism in Krakoa because they hate Scarlet Witch. As they fight amongst each other, patchwork man makes his move. Krakoa crumbles
Love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:40:26 No.124704877 Report

Quoted By: >>124704978

>>124703579
>Even Marvel/ Disney themselves consider Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver mutants/ X-Men first.
This.
n days of future past there is a scene where Peter's mom tells his sister "Go bug your SISTER" to which she replies "But she bugs me"
Scarlet witch might have been off screen the whole time!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:41:04 No.124704895 Report

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>>124704824
That might have been the original goal, but they've flat out said they're keeping the status quo around for as long as it's making money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:44:28 No.124704978 Report

Quoted By: >>124705053

>>124704877
Easy answer scarlet witch is a Nexus she exists in every possible universe

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:45:59 No.124705021 Report

Quoted By: >>124705065 >>124705097

>>124695980
Wanda came through a portal without a flower, the ones that allowed humans to come through the portal. I'm suspecting that Wanda is actually a mutant and always was. The High Evolutionary is known to manipulate and lie to achieve his own ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:46:19 No.124705029 Report

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>>124700256
>Russia
>WW

The fuck. At least with Japan their excuse not having say Wanda is her being relatively new to them and not near the amount of tentacle porn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:47:22 No.124705053 Report

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>>124704978
After Loki and seeing that it happens before Wandavision, I genuinely believe Evan Peters was actually Quicksilver and that that will get expanded upon in Multiverse of Madness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:47:35 No.124705061 Report

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>>124696227
Since High Evolutionary showed up in X Men I think that The Trail Of Magneto will undo the Original Sin retcom making Wanda and Pietro Mag's kids again. I figure that while examining her Body they will find out that she is.was a mutant and that High Evolutionary introduced so genetic junk in Wanda and Pete to get control of her. Remember she did see him and he gave the narrative of what happened. This way she can be brought back. And I will even go as far as saying the High Evolutionary killed her.I hope we can get Mags and HE to square off/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:47:46 No.124705065 Report

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>>124705021
The retcon itself stated that though they're not mutants, the High Evolutionary's methods made the indistinguishable from mutants, because otherwise it'd cause issues with all the times they were identified as mutants by external sources.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:49:08 No.124705097 Report

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>>124705021
And then Boom pietro get's killed too

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 19:52:27 No.124705161 Report

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>>124695980
upcoming xmen #3 That fourth villain character is High Evolutionary, who has a LONG history with the X-Men, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 20:14:18 No.124705692 Report

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>>124704608
Not sure how any of this follows from or is relevant to anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Jul 2021 20:26:31 No.124706017 Report

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>>124704608
Magik is a shit character, I hate her and her fans

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