The forgeworld dreds are good.
Like most custard stuff it's really hard to kill.
Problem with them is very inconstant damage.
The achilus for example. It is hard to kill... with half assed shooting. If it gets in.. yes it does good damage. Even some mortal wounds.
Then it could do 12-24 damage... maybe...
The telemon is one of the tankiest damn thing you can bring at the moment.... in 40k
But with d3 damage on the guns it's not that scary.
That said the telemon is good with out the fists.