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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 05:17:17 2018 No.10198426 View Reply Original Report

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Can we get a thread going about this guy?
I love Slatestarcodex and have been meaning to get into the rationalist movement. I've also noticed that everyone on here seems to hate it, but I've never seen why, so lets hear.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 05:21:16 No.10198432 Report

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>>10198426
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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 05:22:45 No.10198433 Report

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>>10198426
$\maltese\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\\ \maltese\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \maltese\\ \maltese\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \maltese\\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \maltese\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \maltese\\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \maltese\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \maltese\\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \maltese\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \maltese \\ \ \\ \color{red}{\text{<span class="strikethrough">}}</span>$

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 05:23:27 No.10198434 Report

Quoted By: >>10198457

>let's agree to disagree
>NO RATIONAL PEOPLE CAN'T DISAGREE YOU MUST BE IRRATIONAL

Just don't be this kind of person.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 05:36:54 No.10198455 Report

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 05:37:57 No.10198457 Report

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>>10198434
>not knowing what Aumann's Agreement Theorem is

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 05:41:33 No.10198461 Report

Quoted By: >>10198683

What does /sci/ think of cryonics and life extension?

Cryonics FAQs:
https://alcor.org/sciencefaq.htm
https://www.cryonics.org/about-us/faqs/
https://www.benbest.com/cryonics/CryoFAQ.html

More cryonics info:
https://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUh9FLcWu8k5k5W_ofWQMZA

Calculator for calculating the probability of cryonics working:
https://www.cryonicscalculator.com/

Cryonics membership statistics:
https://alcor.org/AboutAlcor/membershipstats.html
https://www.cryonics.org/ci-landing/member-statistics/
http://kriorus.ru/en/cryopreserved%20people

Life extension info:
http://www.sens.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity_escape_velocity

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 06:40:02 No.10198538 Report

Quoted By: >>10198553

>>10198426
>slatestarcodex
hmm what a cool symbol to chose as yours that doesn't have any secret meaning known to the fbi

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 06:45:21 No.10198553 Report

Quoted By: >>10198558 >>10198566

>>10198538
Literally what are you talking about. Just say it I can't be bothered trying to find it

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 06:48:37 No.10198558 Report

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>>10198553
here's some more data, do inference

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 06:51:02 No.10198566 Report

Quoted By: >>10198572 >>10198574 >>10201742

>>10198553
theres some thing that spirals have been used by pedos as a symbol
its not even the right kind tho, its either a triangle or a heart spiral, and anyways, for god fucking fucks sake, they're very common symbols anyways. thats why pedos would fucking use them, they seem inconspicuous. They don't fucking use them in restaurant logos to show the place is pedo friendly or something fucking shitty like that, they imprint the symbol on coins they use to confirm they're pedos or something like that, read the fucking fbi thing on it for fucks sake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 06:53:42 No.10198569 Report

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>>10198432
Not sure why I started laughing.

>>10198426
Rationalists are about as retarded as skeptics 9 times out of 10.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 06:54:53 No.10198572 Report

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>>10198566
People manage to ruin and corrupt everything.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 06:55:57 No.10198574 Report

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>>10198566
look at his face

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 06:57:31 No.10198576 Report

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>>10198574
yes and?
Having a necklace like that could be a pedo necklace but just as easily could be he thought the spiral was cool and represents a lot of ideas at once. Fuck I'd wear a cool spiral necklace like that and I fuckn hate kids lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 07:01:44 No.10198581 Report

Quoted By: >>10198583

>>10198576
p..pedop.. what!! i was just saying he's probably a member of a group that overthinks themselves into retarded spirals and embarrasses themselves

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 07:03:51 No.10198583 Report

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>>10198581
exactly, so we're on the same page then. nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 07:37:18 No.10198632 Report

Quoted By: >>10198672

Didn’t this guy write a fucking Harry Potter fanfiction ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 09:53:16 No.10198672 Report

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>>10198632
yes he does lmao
and this is his greatest accomplishment
yudkowskyfags are truly pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 10:01:34 No.10198683 Report

Quoted By: >>10199418

>>10198461
>does cryonics work?
>"n-no"
>will it work in the foreseeable future?
>"n-no..."
>then it's pseudoscience lol
>"fuck off deathist xddd"

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 10:20:26 No.10198706 Report

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gwern is my rationalistfu

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 10:38:39 No.10198721 Report

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>>10198426

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 10:40:31 No.10198722 Report

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>>10198721

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 12:13:36 No.10198830 Report

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>>10198426
Roko's Basilisk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 12:14:59 No.10198835 Report

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>>10198830
>theism for brainlets

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 14:36:16 No.10199027 Report

Quoted By: >>10201263 >>10204068

>>10198426
Bayesian Statistics is not the answer to everything, in fact it's not even that great for anything.
This guy predicates his ENTIRE moral and persona philosophy, on applying Bayes' theorem to everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 14:51:24 No.10199044 Report

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>>10198426
>I fucking love science!

>Give me money so I can write more Harry Potter fanfi- I mean prevent AI from destroying the world!

>*is in a polyamorous cuckold relationship with 50 obese nerd girls*

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 15:00:57 No.10199062 Report

Quoted By: >>10199078

>>10198721

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 15:07:10 No.10199078 Report

Quoted By: >>10199084

>>10199062
post more cringe kino pls

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 15:08:26 No.10199081 Report

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>>10198455
>deabrahamization
>one result in google search
>Struggle against Islamization is impossible without struggle against Abrahamic paradigm: the
less would be influence of Abrahamic items in everyday life in Europe the less would be
opportunities for Islamization; Europe needs not just deislamization but deabrahamization.
Tresi Nonno. 2015. Thoughts on multiculturalism, nationalism and culturalism. Cultural Anthropology and Ethnosemiotics, Vol. 1, ? 2; pp.: 32 - 44. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320622776_Tresi_Nonno_2015_Thoughts_on_multiculturalism_nationalism_and_culturalism_Cultural_Anthropology_and_Ethnosemiotics_Vol_1_No_2_pp_32_-_44

That's by far the most cryptic way to say anti-judaism, I like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 15:11:12 No.10199084 Report

Quoted By: >>10199087

>>10199078
facebook /yudkowsky

reee stop telling me my post is spam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 15:14:43 No.10199087 Report

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>>10199084
>I only Friend people I know well enough to have a mental image of their personalities. Please subscribe to me instead, and don't be offended if your Friend request goes unanswered.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 18:07:53 No.10199418 Report

Quoted By: >>10199453

>>10198683
>will it work in the foreseeable future?
>"n-no..."
Wrong. See the cryonics calculator posted earlier. Also, even if the chance of it working is slim, you need to take your scope insensitivity into account. If it does work, there's a chance that you might get to live for an infinite amount of time.

https://www.cryonicscalculator.com/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 18:23:57 No.10199453 Report

Quoted By: >>10199456

>>10199418
get the fuck out
too bad this board doesn't delete pseudoscience posts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 18:25:57 No.10199456 Report

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>>10199453
Not an argument

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 18:28:38 No.10199461 Report

Quoted By: >>10201980

>>10198455
what

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 18:32:23 No.10199471 Report

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>>10198721
>doesn't know about ketosis

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 18:33:57 No.10199474 Report

Quoted By: >>10200697 >>10201295

>>10198426
SSC and the online rationalist movement is a trap for people who think they're smart.

It will never amount to anything, the people involved are not intelligent or creative Only a few of them have "high IQs," if they even do, the rest are mindless followers.

Seriously, get interested in anything else. This is such a fucking waste of time and an intellectual dead end. You would literally be better off taking all the time you spend reading SSC and lesswrong and putting itinto jerking off to hentai.

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 19:10:36 No.10199571 Report

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Gwern is worth reading on most things, ssc is good to laugh at, yudkowsky is a smart guy but don't listen to any of his "rational" gibberish, it's just theater to pick up bay area sluts. If you want secret pedos, however, look at steven pinker.
>>10198722
topkek

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 20:35:12 No.10199782 Report

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Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 22:27:25 No.10200086 Report

Quoted By: >>10200108 >>10201745

>>10199087
I pretty much only friend people I've met in person once, not waste my time with randos in my feed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 08 Dec 2018 22:37:07 No.10200108 Report

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>>10200086
that's based! although you're not a (slightly) public figure, just a faggot with a facebook and the notion to post about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 03:06:49 No.10200697 Report

Quoted By: >>10201295

>>10199474
Why do you think it is a waste of time and dead end that will never amount to anything?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 03:13:29 No.10200715 Report

Quoted By: >>10200752 >>10200758 >>10200962 >>10201251

>check the website
>literally run-off-the-mill Libertarian talk
No thanks, lol. Is this what passes off as intellectualism in America?

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 03:21:56 No.10200732 Report

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>>10198721
this nerd needs his fucking ass kicked, god damn I feel sorry for him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 03:30:10 No.10200752 Report

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>>10200715
Uh... what "libertarian talk"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 03:32:23 No.10200758 Report

Quoted By: >>10200794

>>10200715
libertarianism is the best ideology, prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 03:50:18 No.10200794 Report

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>>10200758
Black people and spics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 04:20:46 No.10200915 Report

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>>10198426
>that forehead
peak phenotype

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 04:34:51 No.10200962 Report

Quoted By: >>10201251

>>10200715
Read the Sequences. He talks about a lot more than just libertarianism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 07:19:23 No.10201229 Report

Quoted By: >>10201294

OP here. So far no genuine reason not to devote my life to based Yudkowsky.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 07:36:16 No.10201251 Report

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>>10198426
>>10200715
>>10200962
Some number of you including the OP are confusing the two websites (and their authors): LessWrong (Eliezer Yudkowsky, depicted in OP) and SSC (Scott Alexander, different person). The latter would not exist without the former but their topics of focus are very different.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 07:48:39 No.10201263 Report

Quoted By: >>10201281 >>10204068

>>10199027
>This guy predicates his ENTIRE moral and persona philosophy, on applying Bayes' theorem to everything.
Every reputable statistician rejects Bayes theorem.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 08:14:13 No.10201281 Report

Quoted By: >>10202864

>>10201263
nobody rejects it you retard
but nobody with a grain of intelligence thinks it's the Nonplusultra Formula for knowledge

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 08:27:22 No.10201294 Report

Quoted By: >>10201705 >>10202205

>>10201229
name literally one (1) scientific achievement of this cuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 08:28:41 No.10201295 Report

Quoted By: >>10201732

>>10199474
>>10200697
Not the person you asked, but EY admits his Sequences essays are short on practice and long on theory, and SSC posts are just plain long. Easy to spend hours at a time on that kind of thing, form all sorts of new beliefs, get rewards from your motivational system for what feels like learning, and not do anything with it to benefit your life.

I relate to the general worldview and I'm still sympathetic to calling the reading list a trap. I can see how reading all of it could nerd-snipe anybody with sufficiently high trait Openness.

Find a way to actually apply instrumental rationality to your own chosen goals and it won't be a waste of time.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 09:09:01 No.10201362 Report

Quoted By: >>10201389

>>10198426
>rationalist movement
i.e. people too retarded for actual science worshipping science
i.e. r3ddit

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 09:29:01 No.10201389 Report

Quoted By: >>10201738

>>10201362
You're thinking of Skeptics, retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 09:42:16 No.10201403 Report

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>>10198426
Yud is a moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 11:25:17 No.10201548 Report

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>>10198426
bump

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 13:18:35 No.10201668 Report

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>>10198426
Y'all can sneer at Rationalists all day, but eventually you have to deal with the fact that their memes got Elon Musk laid:

https://pagesix.com/2018/05/07/elon-musk-quietly-dating-musician-grimes/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 13:50:24 No.10201705 Report

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>>10201294
He wrote an epic fanfic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 14:02:03 No.10201725 Report

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>>10198426

>the rationalist movement

Everyone I have met in this has been an insufferable, obnoxious moron

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 14:08:09 No.10201732 Report

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>>10201295
who was it that said "i don't have time to write a short letter". These blogger fuckheads just stream out their terrible top of the head analogies that get more elaborate and retarded as they go and go on for 400 pages without ever reading back and thinking, you know, if i put a bit of effort in i could get this across in ... 2 pages. Nah, instead it's
>Imagine you have a farm with n pigs and w beehives, and painted on the pigs are letters A, ...
for 60 pages to explain what a 'rule of thumb' is

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 14:09:04 No.10201738 Report

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>>10201389
They are both fedora tipping faggots. Maybe historically they were of significance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 14:10:36 No.10201742 Report

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>>10198566
>TRIANGLE
retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 14:12:39 No.10201745 Report

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>>10200086
>randos
You mean bots spying on you

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 16:37:50 No.10201980 Report

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>>10199461

I think >>10198455 is supposed to be like a political left-right dichotomy
the right is roughly NRx/DE; not sure the left represents one coherent group (techno-optimist libertarians?), but it's being represented negatively in the right's terms

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 18:17:38 No.10202205 Report

Quoted By: >>10202825

>>10201294
Timeless Decision Theory

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 21:59:54 No.10202825 Report

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>>10202205
Wow, a niche, poorly defined formulation that has zero applicability to anything other than problems specifically designed for it. Nice!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 22:12:15 No.10202864 Report

Quoted By: >>10202903

>>10201281
>nobody rejects it you retard
Have you ever worked with statisticians?

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 22:27:33 No.10202903 Report

Quoted By: >>10202914

>>10202864
name one that rejects it lmao
once again that does not mean that I'm a yudkowskyfag or think it's the answer to everything, it's simply a nice formula and reformulation of contraposition in a probabilistic context

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 22:30:59 No.10202914 Report

Quoted By: >>10202921 >>10202924

>>10202903
>name one that rejects it lmao
Myself and literally every other working statistician.

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 22:32:34 No.10202921 Report

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>>10202914
I'm interested to hear why

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Anonymous Sun 09 Dec 2018 22:33:01 No.10202924 Report

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>>10202914
>rejecting a logical predicate
do you reject Boolean logic aswell, retard? do you believe computers can't work because contraposition not real?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Dec 2018 06:56:25 No.10204068 Report

Quoted By: >>10204685

>>10199027
In what scenarios does Bayesianism not apply?

>>10201263
>Every reputable statistician rejects Bayes theorem.
Source: Your ass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Dec 2018 15:37:00 No.10204685 Report

Quoted By: >>10204743

>>10204068
>In what scenarios does Bayesianism not apply?
almost all of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Dec 2018 16:09:51 No.10204743 Report

Quoted By: >>10204904

>>10204685
>almost all of them
Such as?

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Anonymous Mon 10 Dec 2018 17:24:49 No.10204904 Report

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>>10204743
my guess is anon goes into a full on autistic ree-mode whenever probabilities are not known exactly and have to be "guessed" or estimated
which in practice is almost always depending on your degree of autism I suppose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Dec 2018 20:23:15 No.10205371 Report

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>>10198426
Man I love videogamedunkey

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