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Outsider Art

Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 02:29:50 2019 No.4017609 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4018230 >>4018277 >>4018286 >>4018324 >>4018331 >>4018333 >>4018498 >>4018516

ITT: we discuss and exhibit outsider art and artists.

Here's a definition: art produced by self-taught artists who are not part of the artistic establishment.

Wesley Willis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rzg51SMhEo

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 02:37:22 No.4017616 Report

Quoted By: >>4017651 >>4018533

I love outsider art, OP.
I'd rather see some technically bad outsider art than more directionless studies or pretty anime drawing.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 03:08:15 No.4017651 Report

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>>4017616
Its great, outsider artists are what normalfag artists strive to be. They are just pretending to be crazy.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 13:19:41 No.4018230 Report

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>>4017609
would van gogh have been considered outsider art?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 13:58:48 No.4018275 Report

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>>4018230
Not really, he was known to the art world in his lifetime.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 13:59:49 No.4018277 Report

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>>4017609
That looks like a kid's drawing though. inb4 he says "but it's my style" as an excuse for the shitty coloring

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:01:13 No.4018278 Report

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:01:45 No.4018280 Report

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:02:20 No.4018282 Report

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:03:22 No.4018283 Report

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>>4018278
>>4018280
>>4018282

Percy Kelly

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:04:55 No.4018286 Report

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>>4017609
What does outsider art even mean in the age of the internet? Are Disney and Dreamworks outsider art? Is Sakimichan outsider art because she's self-employed and doesn't show in galleries? Is someone with 10 Instagram followers outsider art? How many followers would they need to no longer be an outsider?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:09:41 No.4018294 Report

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>>4018286
>What does outsider art even mean in the age of the internet?
All of you shut ins on the internet that aren't drinking champagne at the show openings in Soho, basically. More than that, it's a hermetically sealed artist that doesn't slot into a course book on art history. Like Jesus.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:27:05 No.4018316 Report

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Austin Spare

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:36:32 No.4018324 Report

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>>4017609
Wesley Willis is extremely based and I will fight anyone who hates on my man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFaEBjA7PU

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:37:26 No.4018325 Report

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Edmund Monsiel

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:42:24 No.4018331 Report

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>>4017609

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:44:33 No.4018333 Report

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>>4017609
For me, it's Daniel Johnston

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:48:58 No.4018341 Report

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>>4018286
>What does outsider art even mean
it's an outdated term. applied when people thought art history was going to continue developing movements. thus people outside those movements were called outsiders. except history is dead with instant gratification culture. only memes now and kids making bastard anime or spaceship brownshooters on deviantart.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:49:46 No.4018342 Report

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>Gonzo!
There was a really good one and it's going to take me ages to find them (and you'll b****** so you can do it yourself) but the biography was like " they're really not nice, you wouldn't want to know them" they were locked up for life for being too weird. But you can still buy their art!

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:50:42 No.4018344 Report

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>>4018316
Is that that chaos magic guy

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 14:52:52 No.4018349 Report

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>>4018344
The picture of Hunter Thompson or the artist I'm alluding to? I don't know the chaos magic guy. Maybe.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 16:27:38 No.4018472 Report

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>>4018349
He wasn't replying to you, mate, check the quoting again. Are you new here or just having an off day?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 16:41:43 No.4018495 Report

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>>4018472
Oh right

>>4018344
Austin Spare, yes he is associated with black magic and the occult. He would go into trances and felt that he communicated with other worlds and beings. It was a popular pass time in early 1900's London, there's the Theosophical Society, Swami Prabhavananda, it was like The Beatles I suppose. I've handled some of his art and his prices are moderate (there's a lot of it, he isn't in demand ). He does have that whole spooky vibe which is like catnip. Similar almost to Aubrey Beardsley. Decadent. Symbolist as well. There's not much of it about these days.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 16:43:52 No.4018498 Report

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>>4017609
I am a self-taught artist who is not part of the artistic establishment. Are you asking me to pmw?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 16:47:58 No.4018505 Report

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>>4018498
I wouldn't.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 16:56:04 No.4018516 Report

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>>4017609
So this is the absolute state of a ngmi

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 16:56:50 No.4018520 Report

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>>4018516
It is sort of last chance saloon, yeah.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 17:05:18 No.4018533 Report

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>>4017616
So this is the anti mastery cult jeff watts keeps talking aby

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 17:21:48 No.4018575 Report

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>>4018533
Who?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 23:47:44 No.4019239 Report

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>>4018277

It was drawn by a very strange man with mental problems who's primarily known for his bizarre music career.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 23:48:47 No.4019241 Report

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>>4018278
>>4018280
>>4018282
>>4018283

I see potential.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 23:49:56 No.4019243 Report

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>>4018325

That's upsetting.

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 23:57:32 No.4019252 Report

Quoted By: >>4019256 >>4019267

I really love mexican folk art, specifically these terracotta figures
is that outsider enough?

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Anonymous Tue 16 Jul 2019 23:59:57 No.4019256 Report

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>>4019252

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 00:03:19 No.4019260 Report

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>>4019256
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanco_family_(Oaxacan_potters)

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 00:04:27 No.4019264 Report

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 00:06:09 No.4019267 Report

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>>4019252
>>4019256
>>4019260

I guess the question is, "What's the difference between folk art and outsider art?"

I personally prefer folk art, since, even though it lacks the technical polish and sophistication of academic art, it has it's own history and traditions of design, color and motif, and usually feels a bit more refined than "outsider" art.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 00:08:05 No.4019271 Report

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>>4019267
so, outsider art would be like street artists? graffiti? someone like basquiat before he was recognized?

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 00:08:35 No.4019273 Report

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>>4019260
I love war rugs
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_rugs

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 00:14:45 No.4019285 Report

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 00:15:42 No.4019288 Report

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>>4019273
oh these are very cool!
I've decided that if I ever become rich I will fill my house with persian rugs.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 00:17:27 No.4019289 Report

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>>4019271

I guess so? Wait, does graffiti count as folk art? Some of that can be pretty refined, even beautiful, though most of it is ugly crap that ruins our cities...

Basquiat definitely feels like he qualifies, though I always picture outsider art as coming from the boondocks. Like some old man in rural Louisiana painting for no one but himself, using housepaint or whatever he had lying around.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 05:40:15 No.4019704 Report

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>>4018325
loved this one

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jul 2019 06:25:19 No.4019757 Report

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>>4019273
This is great

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