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Anonymous Fri 08 Nov 09:58:52 2019 No.4197655 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4256457

>Animation Thread Discord
https://discord.gg/Ju9NuWN

>51 exercises to try
http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/

>Books basic program tutorials, etc.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!3p8CwQZD!DR2mC-kw0TyQQ8Uw3T6JYg
https://mega.co.nz/#!TdclgBqS!QWLS9f3ogerhJDfxCYPv_yFKRR11tP_IC0eaA4sEwug

>Reference
http://www.referencereference.com/
https://vimeo.com/groups/aniref
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvspTjApofA2Yg3i10gTdQ
http://www.rhinohouse.com/

>Anime .gif/.webm repository
https://sakugabooru.com/post

>Play YT videos frame-by-frame
http://rowvid.com/
or just pause the video and use the , and . keys (This doesn't always work but worth a try)

Previous Thread: >>4158110

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Anonymous Tue 10 Dec 2019 22:57:10 No.4249987 Report

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>>4237142
I agree with what the others said but also think it looks good as is. If it's a one to one imitation, yup that's a rotoscope. But if you're trying to put in emotion or action then some squash and stretch or exaggeration or line weight would def go a long way. Depends on what you want from the piece I suppose

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 01:24:35 No.4250224 Report

Quoted By: >>4251479

First 2d animation ever. How did I do guys?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 19:34:27 No.4251330 Report

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>>4221924
>>4222242
good stuff

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 21:28:13 No.4251474 Report

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>>4247871
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 21:32:13 No.4251479 Report

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>>4250224
good stretch and squash, now you can move on to ease in and ease out

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 21:52:33 No.4251511 Report

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>>4222845

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Anonymous Wed 11 Dec 2019 21:55:06 No.4251512 Report

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>>4222845

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Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 02:01:03 No.4251826 Report

Quoted By: >>4252140 >>4252141

Ugh fuck too much frames for me to handle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:16:07 No.4252101 Report

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>>4233275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86tqKH3zxuM
this vid is a must in conjunction with the animator's survival kit video about timing charts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:17:44 No.4252102 Report

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>>4233937
not bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:21:15 No.4252109 Report

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>>4237008
I use a hole punch ruler

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:23:19 No.4252111 Report

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>>4245750
>>4245102
What this anon says, you have to caricature poses a bit more when copying from a more realistic source

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:25:19 No.4252114 Report

Quoted By: >>4252387 >>4253115

>>4245942
I'm a very loose sketcher so how would I clean up the keys if I were to do that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:40:55 No.4252140 Report

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>>4251826
Not bad, not bad at all!! Make sure to clean up those lines later on

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 06:41:46 No.4252141 Report

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>>4251826
Jenny was perfection designed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 12:10:14 No.4252387 Report

Quoted By: >>4253115

>>4252114
If you’re doing pencil sketches then just ink your final lines like normal. If on digital then turn down the opacity and do the same.
That’s what I usually do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 12 Dec 2019 21:41:53 No.4253115 Report

Quoted By: >>4253563

>>4252114
>>4252387
Basically just cleaning up your drawings as you normally would, but when you're animating and cleaning up your keys, ALWAYS make sure you're flipping between frames before and after you throw down a line. Having the onion skin turned on isn't enough to see what's exactly going on between two frames, but when you do a lot of flipping between drawings, it's so much easier to see where things go and how to plan it out. Flip between your keys as much as you can and pay attention to your arcs, proportions, character design consistency, 3D space, line of action, and the silhouette. You want to make sure that you don't accidentally make random lines "stick" from drawing-to-drawing because doing your extremes and breakdowns to those drawings will be extremely confusing. Track your eyes onto random points of the animation and see what kind of path they take before you clean it up. If it's chaotic, then fix it into some arcs before you ink it.
What I mean by your lines "sticking" is if you have some lines on a character's torso stay exactly the same between two keys, then it will look too static and freeze in place when you do all of the other steps. When doing your keys/boards, take EXTRA time to flesh out their forms and poses because they're essentially the entire backbone of your animation. Keep them clean and ultra readable so anybody who sees just the poses can know what's going on. No amount of extra drawings between a couple of bad keys are going to make the animation look good, so make them count.

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Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 00:47:56 No.4253408 Report

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I think I'm going to die doing inbetweens but I'll do them anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 03:24:11 No.4253563 Report

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>>4253115
Thanks for this detailed explanation Anon, I'm new to animating and this really helps a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 13 Dec 2019 08:21:51 No.4253814 Report

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Does anyone works in CSP? Is it possible to merge multiple files with same names, for example I have 2 animation folders with 30 frames in each, numbered 1-30, can I merge this two folder into one in one click?

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Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 02:08:38 No.4255173 Report

Quoted By: >>4255340

I'm trying out Procreate since they added animation
Is there not a way to put my sketch layer in a folder and then make a new folder of keyframes above it? If not I'll just clean this up in CSP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 04:39:57 No.4255339 Report

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>>4237142
also what software did you use? I wanna make one too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 04:40:11 No.4255340 Report

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>>4255173
Cute!

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Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 15:44:05 No.4255937 Report

Quoted By: >>4256496 >>4256719

Inbeetwens done, now I'll do lineart and coloring. I didn't die but holy fuck I slept 16 hours after that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 16:23:56 No.4255987 Report

Quoted By: >>4256023 >>4256920 >>4256921

Does anyone have any tips for very close inbetweens to avoid wobbly lines? Also something that happens when I inbetween progressively closer is that they stop being 1/2 and start being biased and unintentionally favored towards one key (usually the key that comes after).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 16:41:27 No.4256023 Report

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>>4255987
Don't do as many frames. If something's moving slowly, don't use 1s. Go to 2s or 3s if you have to. The less drawings you use, the more efficient you'll be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:13:56 No.4256447 Report

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Does anyone have amb courses? I would like a mega to it

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Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:17:56 No.4256457 Report

Quoted By: >>4256535 >>4256720

>>4197655
made in 20 min

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 21:43:17 No.4256496 Report

Quoted By: >>4256537 >>4256744

>>4255937
this has 2 or 3 times as many frames as it needs
read 'timing for animation' by harold whitaker in the OP mega

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:05:17 No.4256535 Report

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>>4256457
nice XDDD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:07:15 No.4256537 Report

Quoted By: >>4256550

>>4256496
>he wants 10-15 frames in 3 second animation
Are you Diives' fan by any chance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:20:15 No.4256550 Report

Quoted By: >>4256744

>>4256537
He's not wrong
>>4209087 Is very limited animation but the key poses are strong enough to sell the motion
The spacing in the Jenny animation is very uniform too, which muddles up the animation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 22:34:06 No.4256571 Report

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>>4216550
Thanks for showing this off. Looks good.

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Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 23:56:08 No.4256719 Report

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>>4255937
Really good. It doesn't follow jenny`s model but i can see it`s a different interpretation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 14 Dec 2019 23:56:12 No.4256720 Report

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>>4256457
Dunno anon, not sure that the guy being killed would lay completely straight after he's dead; I'd assume thag he would collapse on his possition and land face-first with his hips still flexed desu but I like the animation

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Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:06:55 No.4256744 Report

Quoted By: >>4256753

>>4256496
>>4256550
Ugh fuck I guess you kinda right. I removed few frames from 32 to 24, but I don't want to make it into a slide show, does it looks better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:11:20 No.4256753 Report

Quoted By: >>4256755

>>4256744
why would you remove frames?

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Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:12:58 No.4256755 Report

Quoted By: >>4256803 >>4256992

>>4256753
Because more frames not always means better and I'm not good enough to make them look good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:34:59 No.4256803 Report

Quoted By: >>4256808

>>4256755
it looks already on two`s, the keys and the timing is already laid out, removing frames makes no sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:36:28 No.4256805 Report

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>>4220650
thank you for this, anon. I could never wrap my tiny brain around how to use that shit.
now to actually try it in practice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 00:41:00 No.4256808 Report

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>>4256803
Im not just gonna leave it like that, of course I will fix some frames, come on man

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 02:07:23 No.4256920 Report

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>>4255987
Try your hardest to keep them halfs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 02:10:10 No.4256921 Report

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>>4255987
Try your hardest to keep them halfs. Remember your arcs and be very careful where you place your lines. Look at the playback to see how it looks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Dec 2019 03:19:13 No.4256992 Report

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>>4256755
adding/removing inbetweens doesn't change the character of the animation, it's the timing and spacing of them and the keys that you place

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2019 14:20:24 No.4259125 Report

Quoted By: >>4259415

I am trying to animate skirt with 2D bones, using simple "ribbon" rig. Is it OK for games?

How can i improve this skirt animation? Maybe cut skirt in multiple sprites?

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Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2019 16:30:42 No.4259243 Report

Quoted By: >>4259330

>>4251479
So how did I do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2019 17:53:59 No.4259330 Report

Quoted By: >>4259398 >>4259401

>>4259243
That tweening is incredibly awkward. I know this is all computer-generated inbetweens, but why is your anchor point set to the bottom of the ball? Your scaling transform also squeezes downwards and you get this unnatural rotation at the end.

Set your anchor point to the center of the ball and rerender this exact same clip and see how it looks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2019 19:08:45 No.4259398 Report

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>>4259330
I see exactly what you mean give me a second and let me see if I can fix that (I'm new to the program so all the stuff you just told me might be impossible for my limited knowledge of the program)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2019 19:13:34 No.4259401 Report

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>>4259330
Also explanation:

I wanted to keep the ball on the ground so that when I flattened out it would look like it was going fast but just planted in the ground.

The weird rotation at the end was my attempt at giving it the cartoonish hard stop effect (you know grinding into the ground to not hit a wall or something)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Dec 2019 19:23:12 No.4259415 Report

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>>4259125
Well for one you might need to improve the walk. Her torso literally stays static in the air, weightlessly, while her feet move. In real life the body would have a bit of forward momentum when the leg impacts with the ground. As with the skirt I'd advise you to study reference video.

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