how do i know if my works have soul? and if they dont have it how do i get it?
Alke, be careful, you can end up really bored of his art real quick, great great technical skills, but boring and repetitive subject matters.
Maybe anon doesn’t get bored of drawings of lolis all day.
I made a flowchart, hopefully it helps.
>(8) ‘Medicine’: Child prostitutes (age 12-16), so called because they were prescribed as “medicine” in pharmacies. All the client needed to do was tell the pharmacist how many years he had suffered from his ailment (e.g., 12), without mentioning what ailment it was, and request the color of the pill he preferred (e.g., red). He was then escorted to a cubicle where his “medicine” awaited him: a 12-year-old redhead. (9) Telephone-girls (often billed as “virgins”): expensive child prostitutes (ages 12-17) ordered by telephone like a takeaway meal; the nymphettes were delivered by limousine or taxi.  >Luigi Barzini, in his social memoir The Europeans, describes the saturnalian scene in the Tingel-Tangels or sleazy bordellos of sex-crazed Berlin in the 1920s, the Golden Age of the Jews: >I saw pimps offering anything to anybody: little boys, little girls, robust young men, libidinous women, animals. The story went the rounds that a male goose whose neck you cut at just the right ecstatic moment would give you the most delicious frisson of all—as it allowed you to enjoy sodomy, bestiality, homosexuality, necrophilia and sadism at one stroke. Gastronomy too, as one could eat the goose afterwards. http://archive.is/Vc3d3
>Such things have been going on within America’s top political circles for perhaps a century, if not longer. It happens among top politicians in Great Britain, too, where the Jews are playing the same game. >Currently, one of the biggest Jewish corrupters is Jeffrey Epstein. Former President Bill Clinton is believed to have been one of the patrons of his “business,” largely based on Little Saint James Island, one of the US Virgin Islands, which Epstein owns. >Now offering children to gratify the perverted desires of important politicians and others, as witnesses have stated, isn’t the only thing that Jeffrey Epstein does on his island. He has hosted medical research and scientific conferences there also. And Epstein is far from the only Jew whose service to International Jewry runs along these same lines. >There are many others. >In 2000, in Brazil, an official Israeli diplomat named Arie Scher was discovered to have been running a child prostitution business out of his Ipanema apartment — Ipanema is a neighborhood in Rio de Janeiro — for the benefit of wealthy Jewish tourists from Israel. >A friend of his, a fellow Jew named George Schteinberg, assisted Scher by recruiting poor children from the streets of Rio and prepping them for their roles as prostitutes. Schteinberg also ran a sideline business by making photographs of the sexual encounters and then selling the uploaded images from his nine websites, all of which contained text written in the Hebrew language. Schteinberg’s day job was teaching Hebrew and social studies at a Jewish college in Rio de Janeiro. >A girl who had been victimized by Scher and Schteinberg tipped off the police. The Brazilian federal police arrested Professor Schteinberg, but diplomat Scher evaded capture by fleeing from the Israeli Embassy, one step ahead of the cops, hopping aboard an airplane bound for Buenos Aires, Argentina, then switching planes and flying to Israel. Safe! http://archive.is/htdgM
Anyone else feel like they'll never make it in the industry but will do decently as an independent artist online? The art and animation industry seems so restrictive and judgemental anyways and it's been more open about its nepotism, control over the artist's vision, and blacklisting over the smallest things recently, the safest bet seems to be cultivating enough of a following to make a decent living on commissions and Patreon
agreed. this is another pointer. the industry now is a tight circle and they are very careful of who they let in their group. all jobs are shared among each other.
This, the current 3d modeler at disney feature is the wife of the art director, and so on and so on, it's pretty depressing, Ryan Lang pulled his wife inside and now she works for Disney as well, it's practically impossible to get a job on your own by merit alone.
>>4120916 >Anyone else feel like they'll never make it in the industry but will do decently as an independent artist online?
No. Being a freelancer used to allow for more creativity but right now it's just as soulless and compromising, if not more, than industry jobs except you also have to shoulder your own marketing.
I haven't done any "marketing" since securing 2 regular clients last year
Agreed, even as a freelancer you'll do better just knowing people. Even sending a follow-up e-mail to your introduction gives you some extra points because they're getting familiar with your name.
IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.
Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it
READ THE STICKY if you need guidance when you haven't even started.
TRY TO GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless
>>4121021 >What they mean is to come up with the contours through form, not by copying the lines you see in the reference.
Am I doing it right?
I am starting to draw women bodies. Random elf girl I drew
afaik you don't focus on contours when drawing gestures, but when doing a study it's encouraged.
You move on to simplifying your studies when you get the hang of it
I see you hiding those hands, anon.
Stop that right now or it'll become a habit and you will never learn to draw hands.
What exactly differentiates western anime artist from Japanese ones? I want to know the different design elements that are emphasized in each style. Is it the shapes, the lines, the levels of abstraction, influences, flow, composition, etc. What are the nuances that you've seen that differentiates the two?
Just be asian bro its easy to draw
That's a pretty good day if you ask me
The only substantial post in this thread. Well done.
Tbh I don't even draw anime so it's hard to compare but fuck, not only he's younger and with a big audience, but he's also based (fukumoto banner). Well godspeed to him, comparing yourself to others is mostly a poison for your soul but I guess it motivates me a bit
Old one hit bump limit and I’d rlly like to screech
>friend asks to draw him two fully coloured designs that he’d like to printed on shoes, some DBZ shit
>agree because I trusted that he’d appreciate the effort since he’s always preaching about hard work, plus we used to have banter in lessons
>half a year later no word from him, he promised to pay once he got the chance
>”you drew a picture. I’m not paying you for a picture my g”
>6 hours of work just rammed back in my face
I shouldn’t have been a retard huh.
do copies. studying sculptures helped me a lot as well, especially auguste rodin's work
I seriously doubt copying would help me. I've been told I have to learn how the human body works (how it bends, what's inside it, how bones and muscles work, etc.)
Not with this defeatist attitude. Copying is the base, all old masters learned by copying a lot. I recommend with starting with simpler books like Loomis and Bridgman, then moving to Bammes and Vilppu's vids. It's pretty cool to know functions of every muscle but objectively, for art you need to understand functions of bigger, outer masses.
well said. solid form triumphs over 100% anatomical accuracy/ rendering ability - that's why bridgman's drawings carry so much weight despite being simplistic. not that you can't go for acute knowledge.. but it's definitely a step better taken down the line.
What is the logic behind wasting thousands of hours making awful worthless beginner drawings instead of trying to get it right the first time? If you were building a house you wouldn't just throw bricks into a pile over and over until after 10,000 hours somehow a house appeared. So why is there such an emphasis on mindless drawing until by magic you somehow improve? I'm starting to thing it is a clever gatekeeping ruse by established artists to keep out new competition by advising them to waste their time and hopefully they get bored and give up.
Had an attitude similar to this when I started. I figured I'd just spend as long as it takes to make each piece good, and then I'd have nothing to worry about.
Not how it works at all. It's a still that requires repetition. No other way around it.
>>4119682 >>4119719 >>4119746 >>4119821 >>4120096
Essentialy OP, A builder has practiced his fundies before ever laying the first brick. The repetition isn't pointless, your supposed to think when you practice. Try to see where you can build upon what you already know.
everything does. music, art, sports... everything.
Art teacher here. In theory it's not supposed to be mindless practice. You practice for a while, then make a critical assessment. When it works out, you'll slowly build skills upon skills. Eventually, you just stop listening to teachers and self-teach. Sadly, some people will just never get to a professional level. They might have lack of coordination, lack of motivation, creativity, some kind of learning disability, or any number of things. Some people are ok with that and do it for fun anyway. Some aren't. As a teacher, I never intentionally crush people's hopes and dreams by saying a slower student isn't improving fast enough, or they'll never be great. That's kind of short-sighted and presumptuous. I don't always know their intentions, and I really can't see the future. However, I will always do my best to help them. That's kind of the ethics of professional teaching.
>>4121096 >Sadly, some people will just never get to a professional level. They might have lack of coordination, lack of motivation, creativity, some kind of learning disability, or any number of things.
Are you telling me that natural talent IS real? Because /ic/ told me anyone can achieve everything just with hard work.
Should we listen to music or even podcasts when drawing?
Some old masters insist you need silence for your mind to completely focus on what you're doing.
Humans aren't meant to live staring at screens, disconnected from their environment and the people around them either
THE VISIONS DANCING IN MY MIND
not him but for me it's either or, if I'm focussed on thinking about something I forget everything around me
>>4120820 >Kills me to see so many people who just fucking ignore and dissociate from their surroundings because some retarded pointless bullshit like candy crush or tiktok hits their dopamine harder
not saying that such people don't exist but it's healthier to temper those kind of "they're all sheep" thoughts when you can.
Go to /h/ voice thread, they will guide you.
Mi lineart is always shit, always bad and I think is just because I can't get the proper settings on my inking brushes, /ic/ bros, could you help me with some lineart tutorials or guides to obtain pristine line works?
in the case that OP is the begshit we are presuming him to be, then yes, he should go study line. if not, then it could actually be a brush settings issue.
t. anon with great lines traditionally/shit lines digitally
Brush really shouldn't affect your art THAT drastically. If anything, it's used to stylize. But if youre art is shit, no brush will hide that fact
Apart from what people have said (I kinda agree on you being bad at drawing probably), if you want nice lines you have to work on high resolution. The higher the better.
Forget the crabs! These threads are so much fun! As Halloween is fast approaching, what kind of fun can /ic/ have with this?
well people drew it
im down for art trades you know? whats there to lose?
helping your fellow artist recieve free inspiration is what lifes about bro we all ngmi together
People drew this shitty witch and that shitty rabbit as well, doesn't make their design good.
Nothing against these challenges or art challenges, btw, just calling out you saying that design is good.
picasso even said
you must copy other artists, to learn who you really are, to not copy is death
i did it in 5th grade anon
alex from demon world saga ?? its an alright design ill admit that but not great
Fucking clouds man. How do they work?
paint it upside down for the challenge. youll see more shapes that way.
I’ll give it a shot, it’s kinda like an ocean
Did these a while ago