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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 10:08:03 2016 No.79090365 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>79090387 >>79090433 >>79090478 >>79090636 >>79093944 >>79094764 >>79095144 >>79096305 >>79096553 >>79096964 >>79098137

Why is Jason Todd generally hated by everyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:09:28 No.79090387 Report

Quoted By: >>79090436 >>79096087

>>79090365
He's my husbando and he's sexy and flawed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:11:14 No.79090409 Report

Quoted By: >>79092305

too edgy and wreckless

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:13:27 No.79090431 Report

Quoted By: >>79090477 >>79092429

hated? look this:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2016/01/16/2015-top-100-dc-characters-100-51/6/
n this survey of 100 favorite characters from DC ..Jason is the N29 ... front of Supergirl and behind Deathstroke ..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:13:33 No.79090433 Report

Quoted By: >>79090461 >>79097999

>>79090365
Not written consistently and is usually in the hands of bad writers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:13:53 No.79090436 Report

Quoted By: >>79090461

>>79090387
>husbando

Yeah he is sexy af, but i want to know why among the Robins he's the most hated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:15:06 No.79090451 Report

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Lots and lots of shitty writing ever since his revival. His only story post UTRH that isn't terrible is the one in which Grant Morrison just tears apart the "Punisher Batman" cliche into pieces, and Jasonfags hate it for making him ugly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:16:23 No.79090461 Report

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>>79090436
This >>79090433 bad writers get their dirty little nuts on him and write him inconsistently. Also, people can't stand tragic/anti heroes these days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:17:20 No.79090472 Report

Quoted By: >>79090905

Also, his fans are insufferable as well, willing to defend shit writers like Scott Lobdell just for writing him like a fanfic character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:17:40 No.79090477 Report

Quoted By: >>79090501 >>79090515 >>79091523 >>79092429 >>79093776 >>79096728

>>79090431

30. Supergirl (Kara Zor-El) 502 points (8 first place votes)

29. Red Hood (Jason Todd) – 523 points (5 first place votes)

28. Deathstroke (Slade Wilson) – 525 points (3 first place votes)

27. Robin (Damian Wayne) – 551 points (2 first place votes)

26. Rorschach – 559 points (5 first place votes)

25. Captain Marvel/Shazam (Billy Batson) – 633 points (18 first place votes)

24. Booster Gold – 634 points (11 first place votes)

23. Zatanna – 669 points (7 first place votes)

22. Swamp Thing (Alec Holland-ish) – 700 points (15 first place votes)

21. Sandman (Dream) – 719 points (18 first place votes)

20. Kyle Rayner – 725 points (17 first place votes)

19. Black Canary (Dinah) – 731 points (6 first place votes)

18. Darkseid – 742 points (3 first place votes)

17. Red Robin (Tim Drake) – 794 points (14 first place votes)

16. Lex Luthor – 815 points (7 first place votes)

15. Martian Manhunter – 879 points (15 first place votes)

14. Catwoman (Selina Kyle) – 900 points (7 first place votes)

13. John Constantine – 981 points (14 first place votes)

12. Harley Quinn – 1016 points (10 first place votes)

11. Aquaman – 1033 points (14 first place votes)

10. Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) – 1423 points (17 first place votes)

9. Batgirl/Oracle (Barbara Gordon) – 1535 points (19 first place votes)

8. Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) – 1852 points (29 first place votes)

7. Flash (Barry Allen) – 1853 points (27 first place votes)

6. Flash (Wally West) – 2019 points (32 first place votes)

5. Joker – 2675 points (36 first place votes)

4. Wonder Woman – 2922 points (53 first place votes)

3. Dick Grayson – 3337 points (84 first place votes)

2. Superman – 3962 points (129 first place votes)

1. Batman – 6217 points (334 first place votes)

Sometimes i forget how popular dick is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:17:44 No.79090478 Report

Quoted By: >>79090526

>>79090365
He ran out of things to do after Under the Red Hood so aside from Morrison making him the Anti-Batman, most writers just make him the Punisher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:19:11 No.79090487 Report

Quoted By: >>79090564

hm.. In twiter Babs Tarr put a picture of Red Hood with Batgirl .. and like a lot of people..

I think from Batman Eternal 52 .. both should be a couple.. I hate to see that Barbara let Dick and Jason was not there .. although this image
of Babs Tarr it may be a clue that it's posible..

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:21:09 No.79090501 Report

Quoted By: >>79090680 >>79092288 >>79092429

>>79090477
Can't believe Booster ranked that high. And Aquaman! Mera is 97th or some low number like that.
Stewartfags BTFO again by Hal.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:22:35 No.79090515 Report

Quoted By: >>79090680

>>79090477
>Wally that high
will we ever get him back, bros?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:23:19 No.79090526 Report

Quoted By: >>79090578

>>79090478
His gay series with Red arrow at least doesnt try to make it a serious thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:23:24 No.79090528 Report

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Not into emos. Except for a stupid animated movie, he doesn't have much on his side for me to like him. He is liked by fingers only because of his daddy issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:27:14 No.79090564 Report

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>>79090487
Nah, she said that was a commission. There are some creepy people on Tumblr who use Jason for their self-insert bad boy fantasies

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:28:21 No.79090578 Report

Quoted By: >>79090660 >>79090965

>>79090526
It's serious enough to ask people to pay money for it, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:35:30 No.79090636 Report

Quoted By: >>79090654 >>79090678

>>79090365
Damian stole his gimmick despite being a worse character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:37:27 No.79090654 Report

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>>79090636
It still hurts

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:38:10 No.79090660 Report

Quoted By:

>>79090578
People pay money for all sorts of comics, no matter what quality is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:38:14 No.79090661 Report

Quoted By:

Because of the fans

http://comicbookroundup.com/user/profile/767

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:40:23 No.79090678 Report

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>>79090636
Damian had more character development in the span of a few years than Jason had in the 10+ years since coming back from the dead

Wait, let's be fair here. Damian has more character development since his resurrection (<1 year) than Jason has had in over 10 years

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:40:28 No.79090680 Report

Quoted By: >>79090692

>>79090515
>>79090501

Check cyborg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:41:25 No.79090692 Report

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>>79090680
57, good spot. 252 votes, nobody's #1 character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 10:48:57 No.79090768 Report

Quoted By: >>79090929 >>79090935 >>79092429

He might be the most shittiest character to carry an ongoing. He doesn't have any good comic, but fans latch on to him only due to his angsty and rebellious character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:02:41 No.79090905 Report

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>>79090472

Awwww, anon is getting triggered again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:04:50 No.79090929 Report

Quoted By: >>79091151

>>79090768
God no. There are worse characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:05:32 No.79090935 Report

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>>79090768
No, Spider-Gwen exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:08:11 No.79090965 Report

Quoted By: >>79091111 >>79091146 >>79094049

I kinda love how much /co/ is so buttmad about Jason these days. It's like witnessing the hate that Damian received ten years ago when he debuted.

>>79090578

Ooooh, how dare they!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:21:19 No.79091111 Report

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>>79090965
go away tzitzimine

isn't there a jason/tim slashfic for you to read?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:23:57 No.79091146 Report

Quoted By: >>79091243

>>79090965
>It's like witnessing the hate that Damian received ten years ago when he debuted.

Let's be fair. Up until Batman and Robin, he deserved it completely.

And good lord, has it really been that long already? Seems like it was just yesterday that Morrison was starting his run on Batman, and Superboy Prime was rearranging reality bare-handed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:24:23 No.79091151 Report

Quoted By: >>79091165

>>79090929
But how many characters have ongoings despite consistently bad writers? Jason had Lobdell, Tynion, Pfeiffer, and Lobdell again

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:25:17 No.79091165 Report

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>>79091151
Captain Carol Corps.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:31:37 No.79091243 Report

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>>79091146

Damian was a brat, sure, but he was in no way the worst character ever created, like people kept insisting immediately and kept saying for several years. I only started to truly like him as a character when the #666 issue came out, set in the bad end future where I really dug the twisted way he attempted to be faithful to his father's mission. Before that I got that the idea was that he was so awful due to the way he had been raised and it fit the story and agreed that it worked within the story, but I didn't like him as a person.

Meanwhile, for most of /co/ it took until around halfway through Batman & Robin before most people started to say positive things about Damian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:37:18 No.79091302 Report

Quoted By: >>79091340

I used to be a fan of the character, when he was written by Winick, despite not liking Winick's other works. I suffered through Jones and Daniel, and even Morrison, but I JUST CAN'T FUCKING STAND SCOTT LOBDELL'S TAKE ON THE CHARACTER.

Lobdell managed to make me actually despise the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:42:18 No.79091340 Report

Quoted By: >>79091370

>>79091302

So, actually you were just a fan of Winnick's revival version of the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:46:01 No.79091370 Report

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>>79091340

Nah, i actually enjoyed the character before his death and i thought that Winick revival, although iffy on some aspects, played well with the characters quirks and backstory.

Jones' arc was just a mess, Daniel's arc was just too simplistic and Morrison's arc was too mean.

But Lobdell's new take is just... just fucking stupid. Like maddening stupid.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 11:59:59 No.79091523 Report

Quoted By: >>79092429

>>79090477
> Joker at #5
Why? WHY? As far as Batman villains go, there are far better ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 13:12:12 No.79092264 Report

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I don't hate him, but I'm also mentally divorcing everything Scott Lobdell wrote from his character. I'll even take the tentacle arc over that.

UTRH and Lost Days were promising, but no-one ever gave Jason a good direction after that, so they keep re-hashing that one aspect of his character (like recently in Arkham Knight). I actually liked what Morrison did, and bringing him back into the fold as Wingman didn't seem so bad, but then New 52 happened and Batman Inc. sorta went under.

But, yeah. Mainly Lobdell for me. I'd read the shit out of Jason with a decent to good writer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 13:13:48 No.79092288 Report

Quoted By:

>>79090501
>Sinestro is higher than Guy and John
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 13:15:03 No.79092305 Report

Quoted By:

>>79090409
He's not even a red lantern.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 13:23:34 No.79092429 Report

Quoted By: >>79094236 >>79094274

>>79090431
But per >>79090477, he's the least popular of the male Robins. I mean, Alex Holland(ish) beats him.

>>79090501
Billy is pretty low, considering. Booster has a core group (like the LoSH people) but I would think Billy would have something similar.

>>79090768
If he wasn't a Bat family character, he might not have an on-going.

>>79091523
People are idiots, plus Jack and Heath; hell, ever Cesar!

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 13:36:46 No.79092660 Report

Quoted By: >>79094712

kek

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 14:56:40 No.79093776 Report

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>>79090477
>Wally in front of Barry
>Dick in front of WW

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:03:25 No.79093875 Report

Quoted By: >>79093946 >>79094031 >>79100344

Just finished watching Under the Red Hood. Jesus fuck, what a very heart-wrenching movie, that final scene with Jason and Joker and that fucking ending scene holy shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:07:12 No.79093944 Report

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>>79090365
His fanbase is the western equivalent of Sasuke fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:07:18 No.79093946 Report

Quoted By: >>79094020 >>79094023 >>79094031 >>79094200

>>79093875
Speaking of, what are other great batman animated movies? Is Batman VS Robin good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:12:17 No.79094020 Report

Quoted By:

>>79093946

It's garbage, and I say that as a huge Damian fan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:12:22 No.79094023 Report

Quoted By:

>>79093946
If its the one where Damien teams up with a birs guy dont

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:12:52 No.79094031 Report

Quoted By:

>>79093875
That's one of the reasons Jason is so famous, and it's probably the best thing with Jason in the lead.

>>79093946
Try Dark Knight Returns, Mask of the phantasm, Year one, Batman beyond:return of the joker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:14:18 No.79094049 Report

Quoted By:

>>79090965
tzitzimine pls

You're not fooling anyone, we know how much it hurts to see everyone shit on your fave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:23:00 No.79094200 Report

Quoted By:

>>79093946
I thought it was okay. Rushed plot and disappointing final boss but that's basically almost every DC animated movie, it's part of the package

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:25:10 No.79094236 Report

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>>79092429
>Booster has a core group (like the LoSH people)
Fans of Legion voted for him? Sorry, I didn't get you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:27:02 No.79094274 Report

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>>79092429
Booster is quite popular even among the casuals. People keep referencing the JLU episode all the time, even if they never read the comics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:50:05 No.79094712 Report

Quoted By:

>>79092660
is this meta?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:52:19 No.79094764 Report

Quoted By: >>79094877

>>79090365
Honestly, is more about hating Lobdell rather than Jason.

I will never understand why

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 15:57:19 No.79094877 Report

Quoted By: >>79094939 >>79095865

>>79094764
Because Lobdell is current and has long tenure on him that treats him like a darling snowflake. And Jasonfags won't stop spamming every forum insisting that Lobdell's Jason is this deep and complex character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:00:40 No.79094939 Report

Quoted By: >>79095090 >>79095302

>>79094877
>Lobdell's Jason is this deep and complex character.

Because it is.

Then again, /co/ is the place where they refuse to consider Lobdell as a proper writer out of bias so is pointless to argue here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:08:16 No.79095090 Report

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>>79094939
go away Tzitzimine

everyone is tired of you throwing tantrums just because other writers are better at writing jason than lobdell is

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:10:39 No.79095144 Report

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>>79090365

Because a load of people voted for Jason to be killed by Joker and now he's back. They wasted their real life cash. kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:15:35 No.79095247 Report

Quoted By: >>79095293

I don't hate him, but I've never read a story featuring Jason Todd heavily and thought, "That was a good book."

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:17:16 No.79095293 Report

Quoted By:

>>79095247
>shit writers
>shit stories
More at 11.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:17:49 No.79095302 Report

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>>79094939
Hey man, I fucking loved Lobdell's Generation-X, but he's still a pretty mediocre writer. Don't let the occasionally poignant moment hidden away in the mounds of shit that he writes fool you otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:36:28 No.79095741 Report

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They should stop bullshitting around and make him a full-out villain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:41:30 No.79095865 Report

Quoted By: >>79096253

>>79094877
maube you should just learn to ignore them rather than getting pissy about it if it gets to you that much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:46:07 No.79095971 Report

Quoted By:

What significant change has Jason Todd made as a character since his revival that ISN'T a power level boost

Him beating Cass and one-shotting Shiva was retarded, by the way

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:50:43 No.79096087 Report

Quoted By:

>>79090387
This is the mentality of every idiot who stays with a violent/unstable partner. You should work on yourself, Anon. You deserve better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:57:10 No.79096253 Report

Quoted By:

>>79095865
projecting hard there

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 16:59:40 No.79096305 Report

Quoted By: >>79096397

>>79090365
Lack of good direction, lack of good characterization, lack of good writers, lack of a lot of things. But not fans, which is baffling. He's Tumblr's darling, even the Marveldrones like him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:03:54 No.79096397 Report

Quoted By: >>79096703

>>79096305
Women like bad boys, what's so hard to understand?

Dick is too well-adjusted, Tim is boring, Damian is a kid. Jason is the hot bad boy with anger issues, the perfect fangirl bait. The fact that he has no good stories isn't an issue, they'll write/read fanfics about him anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:07:06 No.79096453 Report

Quoted By:

Should have stayed dead

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:10:55 No.79096553 Report

Quoted By:

>>79090365
It's popular to do so. Nothing more to it. Apparently him being featured in Batman and Robin triggers people so much that it's becone a regular thing now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:16:59 No.79096703 Report

Quoted By: >>79096851 >>79096876

>>79096397
They should have made Jason gay in the New 52. It would piss off the Tumblr fangirls who are in love with him, AND the redpillers who self-insert themselves into him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:17:37 No.79096728 Report

Quoted By: >>79096754 >>79096773 >>79096925 >>79097234 >>79097287 >>79097397 >>79098561

>>79090477
I don't really want to derail the thread, but I want everybody to look at the top 30 DC characters and understand the "DC has no diversity" argument.

That list is very white.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:18:39 No.79096754 Report

Quoted By: >>79097234

>>79096728
30. Black Widow (Natalia Romanova) – 548 points (9 first place votes)

29. Rogue – 582 points (14 first place votes)

28. Emma Frost – 583 points (5 first place votes)

27. Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) – 595 points (12 first place votes)

26. Thanos – 600 points (13 first place votes)

25. Gambit – 618 points (22 first place votes)

24. Moon Knight – 655 points (17 first place votes)

23. Punisher – 726 points (15 first place votes)

22. Black Panther (T’Challa) – 785 points (14 first place votes)

21. Silver Surfer – 815 points (10 first place votes)

20. Jean Grey – 871 points (20 first place votes)

19. Dr. Strange – 882 points (17 first place votes)

18. She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) – 917 points (13 first place votes)

17. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) – 1055 points (13 first place votes)

16. Nightcrawler – 1061 points (18 first place votes)

15. Kitty Pryde – 1145 points (21 first place votes)

14. Hawkeye (Clint Barton) – 1169 points (22 first place votes)

13. Storm – 1191 points (25 first place votes)

12. Deadpool – 1209 points (20 first place votes)

11. Thing (Ben Grimm) – 1308 points (26 first place votes)

10. Cyclops – 1530 points (46 first place votes)

9. Iron Man (Tony Stark) – 1547 points (15 first place votes)

8. Hulk (Bruce Banner) – 1643 points (28 first place votes)

7. Thor (Odinson) – 1716 points (27 first place votes)

6. Magneto – 1739 points (18 first place votes)

5. Dr. Doom – 1839 points (19 first place votes)

4. Daredevil – 2691 points (58 first place votes)

3. Wolverine – 2902 points (66 first place votes)

2. Captain America (Steve Rogers) – 3532 points (81 first place votes)

1. Spider-Man (Peter Parker) – 5099 points (257 first place votes)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:19:01 No.79096773 Report

Quoted By:

>>79096728
Swamp Thing and Martian Manhunter are green, show some respect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:22:03 No.79096851 Report

Quoted By:

>>79096703
>making Jason gay
>pissing off the Tumblr fangirls
Pick one. Writing Tim/Jason or Roy/Jason fanfics is all they do in their spare time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:23:03 No.79096876 Report

Quoted By: >>79096945

>>79096703
Tim as the gay makes more sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:24:49 No.79096925 Report

Quoted By:

>>79096728
>but I want everybody to look at the top 30 DC characters and understand the "DC has no diversity" argument.

Because only those 30 characters exist, eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:25:23 No.79096945 Report

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>>79096876
Tim x Bunker needs to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:26:13 No.79096964 Report

Quoted By: >>79097260

>>79090365
Is this Rocafort art?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:35:34 No.79097234 Report

Quoted By: >>79097400 >>79097558

>>79096728
>>79096754
Not really. On Marvel's list I see Black Panther, Storm, and Kamala. On DC's, Damian is part-Arab, part-Chinese, Kyle is Latino, Dick is part-Romani, and Constantine and Catwoman are bi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:36:35 No.79097260 Report

Quoted By:

>>79096964
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:37:52 No.79097287 Report

Quoted By:

>>79096728
Marvel doesn't have a single woman in the top ten

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:38:43 No.79097306 Report

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because he is worst boy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:42:14 No.79097397 Report

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>>79096728

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:42:18 No.79097400 Report

Quoted By: >>79098197

>>79097234
>character is half something
>never brings up his ethnicity
>I'm supposed to know though
Yeah, that's not realistic

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:48:26 No.79097558 Report

Quoted By: >>79097676 >>79098197

>>79097234
>Damian is part-Arab, part-Chinese
Not even remotely relevant to the character. Never a factor in his books
>Kyle is Latino
00's retcon to a 90's character. Never a factor in his books.
>Dick is part-Romani
00's retcon to a 40's character. Hasn't been a factor in his books since Devin Grayson left.

Marvel has a paki,, four jews, two africans, a gyppo, some irish-americans, an italian-american, a dirty canadian, and more, most of whom actually take pride in their cultural heritage. It's completely different.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:52:27 No.79097676 Report

Quoted By: >>79097804

>>79097558
How can you sit here and pretend like Damian's mother and grandfather aren't very important to his narrative?

>Marvel has a paki,, four jews, two africans, a gyppo, some irish-americans, an italian-american, a dirty canadian, and more, most of whom actually take pride in their cultural heritage. It's completely different.

Oh you were memeing, continue I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 17:57:07 No.79097804 Report

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>>79097676
How do Ra's and Talia's ethnic backgrounds matter in Son of Batman? How did they matter in Batman and Robin? Batman Incorporated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 18:05:34 No.79097999 Report

Quoted By: >>79098108

>>79090433
Any recommendations?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 18:11:09 No.79098108 Report

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>>79097999
Nightwing: One Year Later

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 18:12:21 No.79098137 Report

Quoted By:

>>79090365
>Majority of his comics got shit writing
>That dumb tumblr that glorify every shitty writing about him
That alone is a fuel for more /co/ hatred towards him. If you ever defended him, you'll be called being tsizimine or something I don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 18:15:05 No.79098197 Report

Quoted By: >>79098470

>>79097400
> A character only counts as non-white if they're black or in your face about it.
Chill. I understand what you're trying to argue, but you're technically incorrect. Also both Kyle and Dick have had their ethnicity brought up in their current books. And what ethnicity did you think Ra's and Talia Al Ghul were.

>>79097558
> canadian
> non-white

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 18:24:57 No.79098470 Report

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>>79098197
Who said Diversity = Non-White?
Black Widow, Nightcrawler, Magneto and Daredevil all sit in a room together. Are they not diverse?

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 18:28:34 No.79098561 Report

Quoted By: >>79098602

>>79098470
>>79096728
> That list is very white.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 18:30:11 No.79098602 Report

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>>79098561
Oh. There we go.

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Anonymous Mon 18 Jan 2016 19:34:56 No.79100344 Report

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>>79093875
I'd generally let movies slide from the source material for the sake of drama or whatever, but the change to his forced confrontation between Bats and the Joker doesn't quite sit well with me, made him seem sloppy rather than mad. Should have stuck with Bats ricocheting a batarang around behind him while he still tried to shoot the Joker.

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