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Next overarching MCU villain

Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 18:04:43 2019 No.106590743 View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>106593450 >>106594371 >>106596076

Ignoring how we won't really see the X-Men and FF properties make their way home yet since movies can take years to make, who would be your ideal next overarching villain for the MCU? Pic related.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 20:54:42 No.106593287 Report

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>>106593260
Would it piss off comic fans or be bad if they made Reed and Doom the new Thor and Loki, i.e. hero and villain that were once extremely close and have a layered relationship where the past friendship occasionally shines through?

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 20:56:25 No.106593313 Report

Quoted By: >>106593484

OMNIPOTENCE

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:04:41 No.106593450 Report

Quoted By: >>106593530

>>106590743
Introduce him in Doctor Strange 2 or Black Panther 2.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:06:42 No.106593484 Report

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>>106593313
APEX OF WRITING

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:09:34 No.106593530 Report

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>>106593450
>Doctor Strange 2 involves Strange intervening with Doom attempting to bargain with Mephisto.
I’d watch it. Have Doom played by Michael Fassbender and Mephisto by Tom Waits they could also introduce ghost rider if they wanted.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:12:47 No.106593583 Report

Quoted By: >>106593606

What if Doom gaining godhood is needed in order to stop Galactus when he begins devouring and comes knocking on Earth's door (and the snap somehow released Galactus from some prison or whatever), and Thanos is in the mix too as an uneasy ally of the heroes. Seems like kino to me.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:13:57 No.106593606 Report

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>>106593583
That sounds horrible. Also nebula is killing thanos in endgame.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:14:11 No.106593617 Report

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What about Dormammu?

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:16:50 No.106593673 Report

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>>106593606
>killing off daddy Thanos after just two movies
The injustice...

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:21:35 No.106593755 Report

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>>106590753
>the futurist Tony Stark (only like a 2 minute cameo) retires iron man puts his trust in a young Reed Richards to continue working for tomorrow.
>Tony partially funds the Fantastic 4
>Reed fills the role of tony as “Smart Guy”
>slowly becomes autistically reclusive and obsessed with his work that he and the F4 lose their funding and the team is disbanded.
>Boom, Tony gets exploded by Reed as a preventative measure similar to what happened in ultimate fantastic 4.
>Reed (now the Maker) builds his future utopia time capsule thing
I really want the Maker in the mcu now.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:22:17 No.106593766 Report

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Kang

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:24:55 No.106593817 Report

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>>106593755
I like the idea of the Fantastic Four being from the 60's to be honest. Use the FF for 60's kino, Captain Britain for 80's kino. Any suggestions for 70's?

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:27:32 No.106593873 Report

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>>106593817
I’m not a fan of time travelling fantastic 4z we already had captain America. Nobody wants to see a full movie about 4 unrelatable characters going “golly gee, things are so different now. We had a black president?!?!!” It sounds boring.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:29:13 No.106593901 Report

Quoted By: >>106593947 >>106594025

>>106593873
Then do a time jump to a month later where they are acclimatized to the modern world but still a product of the 60's. They did do 'Gee, this runs on electricity!?!' banal shit with Cap either yet he was still clearly a man out of time.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:32:20 No.106593947 Report

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>>106593901
The nuclear family type feel isn’t very exciting.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:35:59 No.106594025 Report

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>>106593901
But why?

The fantastic four are all about the future. How the hell isn't a group of rock star scientists who did a risky venture that mutated them entirely relevant to our current age of privately funded space travel and brands that want you to think they're people?

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:36:41 No.106594036 Report

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>>106593947
If it's set in modern times I'd prefer Richards to be a peer of Stark, not another youngster he mentors and bankrolls. Doesn't feel right if he isn't standing with Cap, Stark, Strange, Panther, etc. as an equal.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:37:44 No.106594057 Report

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>>106594025
Good point desu.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:39:00 No.106594081 Report

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>>106592200
> Human anatomy

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:40:45 No.106594114 Report

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>>106590872
Annihilation Wave would be the best filler similar to Ultron bridging the gap between Avengers and Infinity War.

Have the looming supervillain for the peak conflict reveal be Doom, similar to Thanos in phase 1.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:41:24 No.106594128 Report

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>>106594036
You can fix that with dialogue though. Just have reed break down exactly how Tony’s suit works to him just at a glance. That will prove his is smarter than Tony and can hold his own with the rest of the group. I don’t want an older Reed because I want to see a transition to the Maker, which can only happen to a young reed without much real life experience.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:49:40 No.106594285 Report

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>>106590753
Maker's the kind of villain who they'll probably use for a TV series. "Evil Reed Richards from another universe who turned evil because he got cucked" doesn't scream entry level to fans.

I just hope they go with gleeful mad scientist like Ewing and Cates write and not boring jilted turbo nerd like Hickman's original version

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:49:56 No.106594293 Report

Quoted By: >>106594436 >>106594543

>>106592593
>Mephisto and Black Heart.

Not family-friendly enough for the MCU.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:53:35 No.106594371 Report

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>>106590743
I'd intro Doctor Doom in Black Panther 2 as a revolutionary in Latveria overthrowing a US-backed dictator.
T'Challa has to deal with sensitive and complex geopolitics because why else would we have him rule a fictional country if we don't do that?

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:56:36 No.106594424 Report

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I have this awful feeling that they will style Reed after Elon Musk

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:57:17 No.106594436 Report

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>>106594293
It's called toning it down.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 21:58:07 No.106594448 Report

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>>106592410

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:00:39 No.106594494 Report

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>OMG DOOM IS THE BEST VILLAIN EVER
>N-NO THE BEST VILLAIN EVER YHE MAKET BASED
So, /co/ is pretty much limited to Hickman, right? This board doedn't know any other writer.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:03:36 No.106594543 Report

Quoted By: >>106594610 >>106594740

>>106594293
Mephisto might be a little on the nose (though they could just give him a human form) but there's no reason they can't do Blackheart

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:04:38 No.106594562 Report

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>>106594448
I love this page

You know I bet if the MCU did this (because they can now), people here would hate it

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:07:22 No.106594610 Report

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>>106594543
Mephisto can just be a red guy in a red suit.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:13:34 No.106594740 Report

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>>106594543
You just know Blackheart will be meme'd as an evil hedgehog or evil Sonic if he looks like his comic self.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:18:13 No.106594833 Report

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>>106594740
I remember when people thought they wouldn't give Hela the helmet or that they wouldn't make Ego a living planet or that nobody would take a purple grapefruit man seriously too.

Oh and of course, there's no way they would do Mysterio with his fishbowl helmet. That's too silly.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:21:43 No.106594916 Report

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>>106594833
True. They should and probably will make Blackheart look like Blackheart but he'll be meme'd here and there just like Thanos was with those Homer or Grimace edits.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:24:04 No.106594949 Report

Quoted By: >>106595029 >>106595264

Consider the following.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:28:26 No.106595029 Report

Quoted By: >>106595061 >>106595118

>>106594949
Would be cool if they tie him into Secret Invasion like Avengers: EMH did.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:30:16 No.106595061 Report

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>>106595029
A Secret Invasion phase would be pretty cool, especially if Disney continues some episode based supers with their stream service to coincide with the film buildup.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:33:36 No.106595118 Report

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>>106595029
>>106595061
Played by Kat Dennings.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 22:40:38 No.106595264 Report

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>>106594949
Kang is the best chouce if we want to take a break from an outer space break.
Ramma Tut appearing in a F4 might be a good idea to set him up.
They could also bring Iron Lad to replace Iron Man's role, thought if they are going with a younger Reed, it might not be the best idea

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 23:04:05 No.106595679 Report

Quoted By: >>106596064 >>106596349

The thing with Doom and Latveria is they can't just appear out of knowhere. You would have to make it so that they have been there for a while just watching and waiting in the background kinda like Wakanda. So assuming they go for a younger Fantastic Four how would Doom know Reed? He would be pretty busy ruling Latveria and spying on the world in secret so when would they have crossed paths?

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 23:24:56 No.106596064 Report

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>>106595679
The F4 was active during Hank Pym's day as antman. Then they disappeared. A space travel incident that returned them to the 2020s, barely aged.

Latveria is a neighbor to Sokovia. Doom slowed his aging using magic. Latveria annexes Sokovia after Civil War.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 23:26:06 No.106596076 Report

Quoted By: >>106596229

>>106590743
Green Goblin/Norman when? Or even Hobgoblin?

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 23:35:10 No.106596229 Report

Quoted By: >>106596367

>>106596076
I'm really hoping Norman is the villain in the next Spider-Man movie after Far From Home. I know people don't want to see Green Goblin again but honestly it's never really been done in a comic accurate way. Plus the only time it was actually good (or at least fun) was in the first Raimi movie. Osborn deserves another chance and he could be so much more than just a Spider-Man villain. He could threaten all of the earth based Avengers.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 23:42:21 No.106596349 Report

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>>106595679
>The thing with Doom and Latveria is they can't just appear out of knowhere.
No one is going to let this small hole get in the way of FF, Doom, or Latveria. They're autistic about a lot of things at Marvel Studios but not to the point that autism will get in the way of a really good story and new characters and stuff.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 23:43:55 No.106596367 Report

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>>106596229
Have him be the Iron Patriot at first (really hammer home the anti-Tony Stark gimmick) and do Dark Reign before Norman is BTFO, has a descent into madness and desperation, and resurfaces as fucking crazy and chaotic Green Goblin.

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Anonymous Sat 23 Mar 2019 23:52:12 No.106596534 Report

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>>106592593
It's a shame Dormammu got shrugged off

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Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2019 00:01:40 No.106596724 Report

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>>106592965
please no, just give the FF to brad bird and let him do what he does best. They wouldn't be able to do edgy maker properly so lets just see what doom can be

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Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2019 00:07:25 No.106596828 Report

Quoted By: >>106597579 >>106598151

What are the chances of them bringing Ultron back at some point? All they would need to say is he stored his consciousness somewhere and the Avengers didn't know about it. He could create himself a new body more similar to the comics and his humiliating defeat could make him more cold and vengeful.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2019 00:40:18 No.106597579 Report

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>>106596828
Maybe if they do a villain team up movie with shit like Masters of Evil/Dark Avengers. Just do something a bit different if they bring him back.

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Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2019 01:09:55 No.106598151 Report

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>>106596828
This might be a weird choice but I can see Ultron making a good villain for Ant-Man 3. You could have Hank Pym discover his consciousness somewhere and start talking to him. They could bond over their hatred of Stark and Pym could build him a new body (like the comic design). Of course Ultron would betray Pym and it would be down to Ant-Man and Wasp to stop him. I also think for it to work he would have to be locked into the one body. Maybe his goal is to start manufacturing copies of himself again and that's what they are trying to stop him from doing. Would be a nice nod to the comics though where Pym was the one that created him as well as a soft reboot for Ultron setting him up for future appearances.

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